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mago1978
October 27th, 2007, 10:17 PM
It took weeks for the replicators to build the ships and before they were completed we nuked them. According to Shepperd's readings they were all destroyed.

They sent the satellite weapon and after 36 hours, give or take, the city left the planet.

They may have spent another 48 to 72 hours in space before the landed.

So here is the mystery. WITH WHAT ARMADA DID THE REPLICATORS ATTACKED THE WRAITHS?

Are we supposed to assume that a new armada was build in 3 to 5 days?

Could it be that the replicators got their new armada from eBay?;)

PG15
October 27th, 2007, 11:43 PM
Maybe the ships are made of nanites?

Or...maybe they had an underground hanger full of ships, who knows.

SGFerrit
October 28th, 2007, 11:41 AM
My theory is that 'we' already knew that they had ships capable of galactic travel, and determined they weren't a threat to Earth. But then we discovered they were building Aurora class ships, and decided the only reason they would build ships capable of intergalactic travel would be to reach Earth. IMO the ships they sent to attack the Wraith planet were the weaker ones we saw in Lifeline, it would be more even then IMO.

This is backed up by the images Ellis showed Weir and Shep, and the not-so-great ship from Lifeline.

garhkal
October 28th, 2007, 03:02 PM
Maybe the ships are made of nanites?

Or...maybe they had an underground hanger full of ships, who knows.

THe latter is my thought.. Or that they were built elsewhere on that planet.. WE only nuked a small part of it..

jds1982
October 28th, 2007, 08:50 PM
Or they had a crapload of cloaked ships we never saw, or maybe their buildings are really ships.

The.Road.Not.Taken
October 29th, 2007, 11:52 AM
that ship in orbit was cloaked but that means if they had cloaked ships they would be going after earth wouldn't they?

PG15
October 29th, 2007, 01:43 PM
Not anymore.

The.Road.Not.Taken
October 29th, 2007, 02:11 PM
i know they wont but i am saying they still have ships out there and could attack earth if they wanted to

Short Angel
October 30th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Maybe the ships are made of nanites?

Or...maybe they had an underground hanger full of ships, who knows.

The latter would be my thought too, they must not have dispatched them all to Atlantis.


i know they wont but i am saying they still have ships out there and could attack earth if they wanted to
True, but only if they somehow figure out what is causing them to attack the wraith in the first place and overwrite it.

Gen_J_O'Neill
October 31st, 2007, 04:32 AM
In First Strike Mckay says to Ellis that "all of your primaries and most of your secondaries have been incinerated". Maybe these ships are the left over secondaries that he was taking about.

Other than that I'd have to say that they were already built and in a hanger somewhere, or built really really quickly, with every single replicator working on them lol. Or the asurans could have set up colonies on other planets.

That's all I can come up with at the moment.

The.Road.Not.Taken
November 1st, 2007, 09:16 AM
In First Strike Mckay says to Ellis that "all of your primaries and most of your secondaries have been incinerated". Maybe these ships are the left over secondaries that he was taking about.

Other than that I'd have to say that they were already built and in a hanger somewhere, or built really really quickly, with every single replicator working on them lol. Or the asurans could have set up colonies on other planets.

That's all I can come up with at the moment.

but if some of the secondaries remained it would be a "Massive wave" would it it would only be a few ships

SaberBlade
November 2nd, 2007, 04:20 AM
Like replicators, it's possible that all Asuran technology is made up of the nanite technology as themselves. This would seem to fit as we've seen Asuran weapons disinterage when they've been fired upon. When Ellis talked about them building ships he said they were using real material that could be destroyed with the nukes so it's possible that the shipyard facilities on the planet were created in order to build ships so they wouldn't be be affected by the disrupter weapons.

Since the Wraith don't have this technology, any Asuran ships could have just taken off from the planet and attacked the Wraith as they wouldnt need to worry about the disrupter technology being used on them. It's possible that all of this (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s4/402/html/lifeline%5F0626.html) is just an entire fleet of cityships all interconnected with each other. When the program to attack activated, they broke up and went to fight.

P-90_177
November 2nd, 2007, 04:41 AM
we know the replicator ships have cloaks. So it is possible that the replicators already had a fleet of ships in orbit that we never knew about. The fact that they would attack earth was only a theory. Though even if it was true they would probably build up their forces before attacking. Also we know from the return part 2 that the replicators can construct something from normal raw materials (not nanites) very quickly.

The.Road.Not.Taken
November 2nd, 2007, 01:39 PM
its really don't make sense its really annoys me saying they are building ships 2 attack earth then they destroy them. 2 episodes pass oh look there is more ships again!! ALSO they nuked the replicator planet wheres the bloody damage u don't see any and

SaberBlade
November 2nd, 2007, 02:34 PM
I don't think you would see any. From my understanding, Horizon nuked the construction sites. It didn't fire any weapons at main cities or population centres so we wouldn't see any if they went directly towards a city on the other side of the planet or far away from any possible radition.

Mattathias2.0
November 2nd, 2007, 02:44 PM
The truth is, it was a pre-emptive strike. Very much on the pre-emtpive side based on the information we had on them.

We already knew from The Return that they could rebuild Ancient Tech fairly quickly with how they managed to repair Atlantis. If it takes them that quick to repair an Ancient City Ship, how it is a strech to believe they could (re)build a fleet of ships fairly quickly?

mago1978
November 2nd, 2007, 04:18 PM
They only repaired the damage cause by them during their attack on the city.
The Ancients were the ones that repaired whatever was broken in Atlantis.

Yes, their repair to the tower after the explosion caused by Shepp's jumper was fast, but it was only a small part of the tower and a few of it's systems. And they did that by cannibalizing the ship they came in.

My understanding of First Strike was that the ships were the primary targets and other things were secondary.

To rebuild all the lost ships from scratch, should have taken much longer then the time they had.

However as it was previously point out, it could be that the armada destroyed was capable of intergalactic travel and that they still had other ships capable of interstellar travel, or it could be that they are using the city ships, but I think it would be difficult to swallow the story of the Replicators rebuilding their lost ships so fast.

The.Road.Not.Taken
November 3rd, 2007, 03:17 AM
I don't think you would see any. From my understanding, Horizon nuked the construction sites. It didn't fire any weapons at main cities or population centres so we wouldn't see any if they went directly towards a city on the other side of the planet or far away from any possible radition.

you would see damage still did u see how much was nuked i am fairly certain they didn't just get the construction sites it would of taken alot of the city with it and even if they did repair the nukes would of scarred the land

titaniath
November 4th, 2007, 03:57 AM
you would see damage still did u see how much was nuked i am fairly certain they didn't just get the construction sites it would of taken alot of the city with it and even if they did repair the nukes would of scarred the land
A planet is a big place (not quite as vast as space, but still pretty big!). To reverse the scenario for a moment - if the Replicators had popped out of hyperspace and nuked Australia, do you really think you would be able to see the damage from New York City?
That also leaves a lot of places where other, insterstellar, ships might be kept

The.Road.Not.Taken
November 4th, 2007, 07:03 AM
i didn't mean they could see it from where they landed but when say the apollo is over the planet and resuces the jumper you should see some damage

wkw427
November 10th, 2007, 06:13 PM
i didn't mean they could see it from where they landed but when say the apollo is over the planet and resuces the jumper you should see some damage

Perhaps it was the other side of the planet?

FIRST POST! :)

Jovian Diplomat
November 11th, 2007, 11:09 PM
Good points, people.
Likely the damage was not on the same side as where they all dropped in and out of hyperspace.
As for the fleet, the distinction between intergallactic and interstellar fleets could be enough for our logic to buy it.
But a simple "where did they get that many ships from so fast?" in the show would have sufficed, really... and they could have left it a mystery.
It depends whether the Asurans have an oerdrive mode for production that their attack-wraith code could activate.

The.Road.Not.Taken
November 12th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Good points, people.
Likely the damage was not on the same side as where they all dropped in and out of hyperspace.
As for the fleet, the distinction between intergallactic and interstellar fleets could be enough for our logic to buy it.
But a simple "where did they get that many ships from so fast?" in the show would have sufficed, really... and they could have left it a mystery.
It depends whether the Asurans have an oerdrive mode for production that their attack-wraith code could activate.

i never thought about it like that it could of been somting to do with the code woooooo!!

Integrabyte
November 13th, 2007, 11:51 AM
...and the plot hole emerges....