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Trek_Girl42
October 23rd, 2007, 09:51 PM
*looks around* Nope! Don't see it!

We've got our fifth season guys, so here's a place for the pros to discuss!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974591.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

SaberBlade
October 23rd, 2007, 10:01 PM
OMFG, Did Mark Stern die? This is great news, and I am not surprised to be honest because once it hits 100 episodes, lotsa money from syndication. It's a surprise in the fact that they'd renew it after a few episodes had aired. They stabbed SG1 in the back after it aired just a few more episodes.

--

It's very surprising indeed. I had thought that they'd have waited for the DVR ratings for each episode and renew it (or not) sometime during the second half of the season. However I won't complain.

Trek_Girl42
October 23rd, 2007, 10:03 PM
No complaints here either! I want to give Mark Stern and everyone at SCI-FI a great big hug!




Does that make me weird? :confused:

Mattathias2.0
October 23rd, 2007, 10:13 PM
OMF, I am so excited!

SaberBlade
October 23rd, 2007, 10:21 PM
No complaints here either! I want to give Mark Stern and everyone at SCI-FI a great big hug!




Does that make me weird? :confused:

For wanting to hug Mark Stern and the people at Scifi, yes that does make you weird. However considering the good news, temporary insanity is perfectly acceptable.

Trek_Girl42
October 23rd, 2007, 10:26 PM
For wanting to hug Mark Stern and the people at Scifi, yes that does make you weird. However considering the good news, temporary insanity is perfectly acceptable.

Oh good. http://gopher65.com/images/drwho/Doctorblshgrn.gif

It feels like a huge weight of anticipation has been lifted, now knowing. Wonderful! :D

Uber
October 23rd, 2007, 10:28 PM
*looks around* Nope! Don't see it!

We've got our fifth season guys, so here's a place for the pros to discuss!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974591.html?categoryid=14&cs=1W00t!!!!!!!!!!!


Can I get a "heck to the yeah baby!!!" from anyone else???

:sheppardanime23:

Mattathias2.0
October 23rd, 2007, 10:28 PM
Hmmm... 3 movies. 12 years. 314 episodes.

Sorry, my happiness makes me spew useless facts, lol.

Agent_Dark
October 23rd, 2007, 10:30 PM
\o/ \o/ \o/

:D

PG15
October 23rd, 2007, 10:31 PM
Words cannot possibly express how I feel right now. Therefore, I'll let this explain it to you:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/PGfifteen/IMGP0645b.jpg

Trek_Girl42
October 23rd, 2007, 10:31 PM
Hmmm... 3 movies. 12 years. 314 episodes.
314 episodes. Plus the movies. :eek: That's a lot of Stargate. :D



Uber:
Heck to the yeah baby!!!!! :D

Trek_Girl42
October 23rd, 2007, 10:33 PM
Why use words when the flocking does the talking for you? ;) :D

Mattathias2.0
October 23rd, 2007, 10:36 PM
314 episodes. Plus the movies. :eek: That's a lot of Stargate. :D

I won't get into the minutes, LOL

This also means we get our 100th episode, and a cliffhanger in one shot! :D

Uber
October 23rd, 2007, 10:56 PM
I'm floored. I had hoped we'd hear something by Friday...but Dude! And I love what SciFi said about it:
" 'Atlantis' truly came out from under the shadow of its sister series this year and proved that it's a hit in its own right," said Sci Fi's Mark Stern, exec veep of original programming. The show's predecessor, "Stargate SG-1," ran for 10 seasons on Sci Fi before completing its run last year.

In its Friday 10 p.m. timeslot, "Atlantis" has chalked up a season-to-date average of 1.8 million total viewers, easily outperforming Sci Fi's primetime average of about 1.3 million total viewers.The way that worded screams to me that it was a no-brainer, even for them *focuses on glee...refrains from making further disparaging comments about the suits @ SciFi*

And now I must subscribe to this thread and give it five big ol' stars. :)

arjumand
October 23rd, 2007, 11:30 PM
Yes! YES! YEEEEEESSS!!!!!

I can't believe this I'm posting from work (eeeek) but I logged on and saw the good news!

I am so happy!

I'm going to be burbling on like this all day, just ignore me!

Ezi_May
October 23rd, 2007, 11:57 PM
*does a happy dance*
I knew they would!!

Chayiana
October 24th, 2007, 12:05 AM
Fans in germany are still sceptical, because there's no official note from SciFi yet... we only got this single news...

But it is true, isn't it????

Ok, I'll take it and start bouncing and dancing happily!!! :D

Princess Awinita
October 24th, 2007, 12:07 AM
Hey, major Atlantis fankitty since I currently live there and am online from here as well mcKay made a great wireless setup with help from Midway Station... anyway... Who wants to party that we got a S5? we get to see a lot of lose ends tied up in this one don't we?

Major_Griff
October 24th, 2007, 12:10 AM
YES! Season Five! Season Four has been great so far, and S5 will be awesome aswell! Time for cartwheels!

AGateFan
October 24th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Wow I must admit I am shocked.
I mean I have liked how S4 has been going and I think JM has been doing a MUCH better job with change then RCC did with SG-1, but still...... This IS Stargate and this IS Scifi channel, aren't they supposed to wait until the last script has pretty much been pitched before making a decision thus causing the JM\PM (heh sounds like AM\PM) no end of consternation about cliffhanger\no cliffhanger....now we are sure to get a season ending cliffhanger. Or is it late enough that all the eps have been pitched and written and I am just confused by the new release time?

Yeah I am all for a S5 at this point, of course I guess the season could take a nose dive and I could change my mind but so far I dont see that happening. It will be interesting to see what they do with the Weir situation. Will she come back for S5 as some think or just dissappear altogether like Ford, or can JM\PM find a happy medium?

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 12:34 AM
Wow I must admit I am shocked.
I mean I have liked how S4 has been going and I think JM has been doing a MUCH better job with change then RCC did with SG-1, but still...... This IS Stargate and this IS Scifi channel, aren't they supposed to wait until the last script has pretty much been pitched before making a decision thus causing the JM\PM (heh sounds like AM\PM) no end of consternation about cliffhanger\no cliffhanger....now we are sure to get a season ending cliffhanger. Or is it late enough that all the eps have been pitched and written and I am just confused by the new release time?

Yeah I am all for a S5 at this point, of course I guess the season could take a nose dive and I could change my mind but so far I dont see that happening. It will be interesting to see what they do with the Weir situation. Will she come back for S5 as some think or just dissappear altogether like Ford, or can JM\PM find a happy medium?
That'll definitely be interesting- I'd love to see Weir come back, she's one of my favourite characters in the the Stargate universe, but I am warming up to Sam being in charge. It's definitely all about finding that delicate balance; it'll be interesting to see what they do. I just really hope she doesn't disappear altogether like Ford, who I'd also like to see make at least one final appearance on the show. And I really hope season five does a lot of focus on wrapping up continuing story, revisiting these characters, etc because chances of a season six are very slim. But ya know, leave room for an SGA movie. ;)

Or better yet an SG-1/SGA crossover movie. *dreams* :D

nekoi
October 24th, 2007, 12:44 AM
W00t!!!!!!!!!!!


Can I get a "heck to the yeah baby!!!" from anyone else???

:sheppardanime23:

HECK YEAH, OOBIE!

I'm so excited for Season 5, especially since Season 4's been proving to be nothing but awesome since the first episode.

Congrats, Atlantis!<3

Linzi
October 24th, 2007, 12:45 AM
*looks around* Nope! Don't see it!

We've got our fifth season guys, so here's a place for the pros to discuss!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974591.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
Woo hoo! I'm so delighted, excited and thrilled all at the same time. GO SGA!!!!! We got renewed, and are getting 20 more episodes! Fantastic! I look forward to season 5! (And the rest of season 4!) SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Alipeeps
October 24th, 2007, 02:08 AM
OMGYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!

This is such awesome news! And so unexpected! I know JM had said he would expect a decision by the end of this week but this was rather out of the blue... but Variety is pretty much as reliable a source as you can get so..

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY!

This had made me super giddy. So thrilled that we will get another season to look forward to - *and* will get resolution on the Season 4 cliffhanger..


This IS Stargate and this IS Scifi channel, aren't they supposed to wait until the last script has pretty much been pitched before making a decision thus causing the JM\PM (heh sounds like AM\PM) no end of consternation about cliffhanger\no cliffhanger....now we are sure to get a season ending cliffhanger. Or is it late enough that all the eps have been pitched and written and I am just confused by the new release time?


All of season 4 has been pitched, written *and* filmed already - production finished a coupla weeks ago! And the Season 4 finale is a cliffhanger.. so the renewal news is even better news! :D

Astraldust
October 24th, 2007, 02:20 AM
It's has made my day:- Fantastic news!


Chayiana - I know the news doesn't come from scifi yet but as Alipeep's said, Variey is a very reliable publication. I'm sure the news is correct.

The_Carpenter
October 24th, 2007, 03:23 AM
YAY!!!!!! Gin and Tonics or Beer for all!!!!

have to admit I'm surprised with the decisions Sci-fi have been making but whoohoo.

must remember to..... breath! :sam::sheppard::mckay::teyla::ronan:

Gatebunny
October 24th, 2007, 03:24 AM
:D Colour me officially chuffed! (And surprised in a nice way - wasn't exoecting to hear about any possible renewal until the end of the week at the earliest!)

Now let's just hope Variety have the right of it... ;)

*Goes into giggly fangirl squee mode*

Lahela
October 24th, 2007, 05:07 AM
This is the best news I've heard since... well, in a very long time!!!

Alipeeps
October 24th, 2007, 05:15 AM
We have MINIMUM thirty-six new, shiny episodes of SGA to look forward to folks!!! :D :D :D :D :D

ReganX
October 24th, 2007, 05:17 AM
We have MINIMUM thirty-six new, shiny episodes of SGA to look forward to folks!!! :D :D :D :D :D

:sam59: :weiranime17: :sheppardanime23: :mckayanime03: :teyla25: :zelenka25: :ronan:

Jumper_One
October 24th, 2007, 05:54 AM
wooooooooooohooooooooooooo great news!!!

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 06:50 AM
Well the bad news is, Gateworld has to work now to add a season 5 section! Muhahahahahahaha! :p

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 07:20 AM
So that is at least 35 more eps to look forward to! Oh Happy days!!!! :p

ussrelativity
October 24th, 2007, 07:24 AM
It probably will be a long time before we hear anything related to production, much less see images or previews.

iolanda
October 24th, 2007, 07:27 AM
This is definitely the greatest news of the day!

I am so happy! Jeeez!

And they just started to air Season 3 around here :)

Nikki
October 24th, 2007, 07:27 AM
WOOHOO! Fantastic news! Love season 4 so far and am so pleased we got renewed for a fifth season! :D :sam::ronan::mckay::teyla::sheppard:

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 07:31 AM
It probably will be a long time before we hear anything related to production, much less see images or previews.


Now is the time ,instead of bashing the season that was just announced, to support the characters you would like to see return, for guest roles or full-time. I know with this great news it leaves the door open for lots of opportunities. Heck, we can even see Ford return for an ep or two.

ussrelativity
October 24th, 2007, 07:33 AM
Now is the time ,instead of bashing the season that was just announced, to support the characters you would like to see return, for guest roles or full-time. I know with this great news it leaves the door open for lots of opportunities. Heck, we can even see Ford return for an ep or two.

Yes! We should ask JM if Ford can finally return! :ford:

Platschu
October 24th, 2007, 07:34 AM
Great news. :) I hope the cast will stay. ;) I fear a bit, that Amanda Tapping will leave the show and Rachel Luttrell will stay with her baby at home. :o

ussrelativity
October 24th, 2007, 07:36 AM
Great news. :) I hope the cast will stay. ;) I fear a bit, that Amanda Tapping will leave the show and Rachel Luttrell will stay with her baby at home. :o

I wouldn't mind if Carter left, but with Teyla, I'd like her to stick around.

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 07:40 AM
Yes! We should ask JM if Ford can finally return! :ford:

Speaking of Joe M, I knew he knew the good news and he was hinting to us. I have to say, I've grown a lot of respect for him. His Blog should be very interesting to read tonight. :p

Platschu
October 24th, 2007, 07:45 AM
I hope Ford will get a double-episode to solve his storyline. I think every fan would like to see him again and his reaction to Michael and RepliWeir. :)

There was a "wish list for season 5", we should write such thoughts there. :o

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 07:46 AM
I hope Ford will get a double-episode to solve his storyline. I think every fan would like to see him again and his reaction to Michael and RepliWeir. :)

There was a "wish list for season 5", we should write such thoughts there. :o

Well there is one thing I can cross off my X-mas list! :p

BTW, I think we need a Season 5 section! :D

Platschu
October 24th, 2007, 07:55 AM
Huh. 15-20 minutes passed since I heard the news. I still can't believe it. :o :) Atlantis will reach the 100th episode! ;)

Mandysg1
October 24th, 2007, 07:56 AM
Woo Hoo!!!! Season 5 :D

This is great news! Coming off the first 4 episodes of s4, which I have found to be wonderful, it looks like the changes have been accepted enough to give us a S5:)

Here's looking forward to another spectacular year :D

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 08:00 AM
Woo Hoo!!!! Season 5 :D

This is great news! Coming off the first 4 episodes of s4, which I have found to be wonderful, it looks like the changes have been accepted enough to give us a S5:)

Here's looking forward to another spectacular year :D

Yeah according to the head cheese, lol, Mark Stern, SGA averaged 1.8 million viewers to date for this season. That puts it about a 1.3 to 1.4 rating!

Platschu
October 24th, 2007, 08:13 AM
Don't forget that 5x06 will be the 300th SG episode! SG-1 had 214 episode and they made 80 Atlantis episodes yet. I hope they will make something special, maybe a brutal cross-over! :D

Pocus
October 24th, 2007, 08:16 AM
Season 5!!!!!
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l228/abracahpocus/smilies/hampster-dance.gif http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l228/abracahpocus/smilies/Blaster.gif http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l228/abracahpocus/smilies/party0029.gif

Time for Dancing, Drinking and Eating!!!

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 08:34 AM
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=44970

Wow Adrift had official over 2 million viewers!!!

iolanda
October 24th, 2007, 08:36 AM
It is official!

Pocus
October 24th, 2007, 08:47 AM
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=44970

Wow Adrift had official over 2 million viewers!!!
That is great news!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lahela
October 24th, 2007, 08:53 AM
So happy that the Stargate franchise lives on for at least one more season!!!!! If season 4 continues the way it has started, hopefully ratings will go through the roof and we can look forward to a long future in the Pegasus galaxy :D

Alipeeps
October 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM
So that is at least 35 more eps to look forward to! Oh Happy days!!!! :p

36 including this week's Travelers... :D

Kati*Bavaria
October 24th, 2007, 09:05 AM
Thus Germany celebrates!


Jaaaaaaaaaah *Parrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtyyyyyyyyyyyy* Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah


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Sing: *Oh wie ist das schön (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrBt9ax7GFU)*

"Oh wiieeeeeeeee ist das Schöööööööööön, soooooooooo schööööööööön....So ein Tag, so wunderschön wie heeeeeeeeeuuuuuute...."

Sing: "Humba Humba Humba Täterä (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmLGcRMrrs) Täterä Täterä..."

iolanda
October 24th, 2007, 09:09 AM
Kati, you're nuts *bg*

*mitsingt* ;)

*rumhüpf*

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 09:15 AM
Huh. 15-20 minutes passed since I heard the news. I still can't believe it. :o :) Atlantis will reach the 100th episode! ;)
It's been nearly twelve hours since I heard it and I'm still somewhere over the moon. :P

This feeling needs to last awhile before fandom goes....argumentative crazy again over casting, etc.....again. It's a cycle. ;)



Don't forget that 5x06 will be the 300th SG episode! SG-1 had 214 episode and they made 80 Atlantis episodes yet. I hope they will make something special, maybe a brutal cross-over! :D
Oh I hope so. I'd love to see our beloved SG-1 team up with the SGA cast. Pegasus Project was such a fantastic episode and definitely proved that it works. :D

eri-chan
October 24th, 2007, 09:44 AM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY XD XD XD

now more eps to look forward to :) this season has been awesome so far... imagine what could be in store for next season? i really hope we get to see ford again. and i wonder if mcgillion will be a cast regular? ... same goes for tapping. and i hope we get to see a daniel cameo :):):)

*heee* bring on the season 5 topic thread!
:ronan: :beckett: :mckay: :sheppard: :weir: :teyla: :sam: :zelenka25: :wraithqueen17: :wraithanime11:

Niteshadow
October 24th, 2007, 09:44 AM
:D we can now sit back and enjoy season 4 knowing that we have another year coming :D

bluealien
October 24th, 2007, 09:45 AM
Excellent news.....


I'm so excited that SGA has gotten a fifth season.... 36 more eps. Hoepfully SGA will have as long a run as SG1...

WOOOHOOOO!!

Elflinn
October 24th, 2007, 09:57 AM
Excellent news.....


I'm so excited that SGA has gotten a fifth season.... 36 more eps. Hoepfully SGA will have as long a run as SG1...

WOOOHOOOO!!

OK! Stupid question! How can it be a minimum of 36 new episodes when is usually said 20 episodes have been ordered for the new season renewal? I know I will probably regret asking this question later but, my brain is not functioning due to overload of SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEING I've been doing since I found out that we have been renewed!!!!

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 09:59 AM
Did I tell you guys that "5" is my lucky number? :p :D Seriously it is. :p

eri-chan
October 24th, 2007, 09:59 AM
OK! Stupid question! How can it be a minimum of 36 new episodes when is usually said 20 episodes have been ordered for the new season renewal?

because there's still 16 eps of this season left to air at this date. :)

Mattathias2.0
October 24th, 2007, 09:59 AM
Only 4 eps of S4 have aired: 20 - 4 = 16 + 20 (S5) = 36

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 10:01 AM
OK! Stupid question! How can it be a minimum of 36 new episodes when is usually said 20 episodes have been ordered for the new season renewal? I know I will probably regret asking this question later but, my brain is not functioning due to overload of SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEING I've been doing since I found out that we have been renewed!!!!
36 including the rest of season four that we haven't yet seen! :D

Platschu
October 24th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Did I tell you guys that "5" is my lucky number? :p :D Seriously it is. :p

I like "8", so we can hope that they will reach season 8. :)

bluealien
October 24th, 2007, 10:07 AM
OK! Stupid question! How can it be a minimum of 36 new episodes when is usually said 20 episodes have been ordered for the new season renewal? I know I will probably regret asking this question later but, my brain is not functioning due to overload of SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEING I've been doing since I found out that we have been renewed!!!!

I'm counting the remainder of season four... 16 to go in season four and 20 in season 5...

So 36 eps in the bag...

Niteshadow
October 24th, 2007, 10:09 AM
I'm counting the remainder of season four... 16 to go in season four and 20 in season 5...

So 36 eps in the bag...

:D yippie we have a lot of sga left to watch

Elflinn
October 24th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Thanks guys! Now, I understand! I was forgetting to factor in the remainder of rest of S4's eppies!!:D:D

I am just gosh darn giddy about our S5 renewal!!! Yea!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

justhere1971
October 24th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Now is the time ,instead of bashing the season that was just announced, to support the characters you would like to see return, for guest roles or full-time. I know with this great news it leaves the door open for lots of opportunities. Heck, we can even see Ford return for an ep or two.

You're such an optimist.

justhere1971
October 24th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Alright here's my official SQUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEING over Season 5.

Stitch
October 24th, 2007, 10:17 AM
Well if FIVE doesnt happen I saw we have "Lawn Con" in Bonnie Hammer's front yard till they do renew it!

I know this has been said 1000 times, but how can she run SciFi Channel and not like science fiction shows? At this rate we are going to have to start a annual "Canceled Con". She can be the guest speaker! :cool:

jrd231
October 24th, 2007, 10:28 AM
Attlantis' truly came out from under the shadow of its sister series this year and proved that it's a hit in its own right," said Sci Fi's Mark Stern

These are extremely positive remarks, if they are indeed the actual remarks of Mr. Stern. Season 4 has been fantastic so far, so lets just hope the show can springboard off of this and the fact that they are focusing all of their attention on SGA, and we may end up with a season 6. (gasp)

I would like to see Carter return for season 5. So far she's been really good. I like the way her character handles leadership situations.

Hopefully we can see some other familiar faces as well. I just hope they can spend enough time focusing on SGA before they start on SGU. The advent of SGA sort of marked the downhill slide of SG-1 (and yes, there was a ratings slide, and it wasn't as good as it was) when SGA was launched. You can probably chalk that up to the fact that they had to split their resources.

Anlaria Onyx
October 24th, 2007, 10:57 AM
SOOOO HAPPY!

I can't wait to see what they do for S5. I would like to see Carter in an awkward position as leader, show she's not infalible and all. I want her to stay, though. Same with Keller. I'm a Ronon/Keller shipper, so cute! :P None the less, I can't wait to see Carson again!!!

High hopes for Season 5!!!!

Lahela
October 24th, 2007, 11:17 AM
I'd love to see Carson back in Atlantis (and to see Keller suffer some horrific accident, but that's just me ;)). I guess we'll have to wait and see just how they bring him back in his two eps this season to find out whether that's feasible.

I wonder if AT will sign on for another season - it would be great to see Sam really become established in the position of leader - I think she's already showing a lot of promise :)

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 11:21 AM
These are extremely positive remarks, if they are indeed the actual remarks of Mr. Stern. Season 4 has been fantastic so far, so lets just hope the show can springboard off of this and the fact that they are focusing all of their attention on SGA, and we may end up with a season 6. (gasp)

I would like to see Carter return for season 5. So far she's been really good. I like the way her character handles leadership situations.

Hopefully we can see some other familiar faces as well. I just hope they can spend enough time focusing on SGA before they start on SGU. The advent of SGA sort of marked the downhill slide of SG-1 (and yes, there was a ratings slide, and it wasn't as good as it was) when SGA was launched. You can probably chalk that up to the fact that they had to split their resources.

If SGA can stay around these ratings which are being affected by DVR, we could see a 6th ,7th, and so on. They even said in the NBCU press release that it could tie it's Big brother SG-1's Longevity.

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 11:34 AM
If SGA can stay around these ratings which are being affected by DVR, we could see a 6th ,7th, and so on. They even said in the NBCU press release that it could tie it's Big brother SG-1's Longevity.
Got a link? :)

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 11:47 AM
Got a link? :)

Of course! :p

http://www.nbcumv.com/scifi/release_detail.nbc/scifi-20071024000000-scifichannelredis.html



"SCI FI is proud to bring Atlantis back for another season," said Mark Stern, Executive Vice President, Original Programming for SCI FI. "Atlantis truly came out from under the shadow of its sister series this year and proved that it's a hit in its own right. With this season's exciting new characters and vibrant storylines, Atlantis also shows every sign of matching its sibling's longevity."

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 11:50 AM
You're such an optimist.

Yeah, I am. Sorry. :p Hopefully people will forgive me after today's news! :D

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 11:51 AM
Of course! :p

http://www.nbcumv.com/scifi/release_detail.nbc/scifi-20071024000000-scifichannelredis.html

Thanks! Lets hope that there's some actual truth behind the quote, and that it's not just words. ;)

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 11:54 AM
Yeah, I am. Sorry. :p Hopefully people will forgive me after today's news! :D
Today/yesterday is seriously the best day ever. (ever since yesterday morning I've had nothing but good stuff that I've been wanting to happen, happen, which is.....unusual)

The optimism is awesome! It really feels like nothing could go wrong right now. :D

:sheppard::mckay::ronan::teyla::sam:

Major_Griff
October 24th, 2007, 12:31 PM
If SGA can stay around these ratings which are being affected by DVR, we could see a 6th ,7th, and so on. They even said in the NBCU press release that it could tie it's Big brother SG-1's Longevity.

I hope so! SGA needs atleast a S6 minimum. But I'd love if it was on for 10 years! It would be great if 10 was SG's magic number like for Trek it was 7.

ann_sgcfan
October 24th, 2007, 01:01 PM
Yay! Glad to hear we are getting Season 5!! :D I have really liked the episodes I have seen so far and I look forward to seeing the rest of s4 and all of 5! :D :D

Briangate78
October 24th, 2007, 01:04 PM
Yay! Glad to hear we are getting Season 5!! :D I have really liked the episodes I have seen so far and I look forward to seeing the rest of s4 and all of 5! :D :D

Season 4 has been great so far. I can now enjoy this season even more knowing it will not be the last! :p


I hope so! SGA needs atleast a S6 minimum. But I'd love if it was on for 10 years! It would be great if 10 was SG's magic number like for Trek it was 7.


Well we do know SGA did not lost any viewers from last season. So that is a good sign if they can keep it up! :)

WingedPegasus
October 24th, 2007, 01:32 PM
I've said it before, I'll say it again: YEEE-HAW!! I am SO glad we got renewed! Season 5? BRING IT ON!!! :D:D

Promethius30
October 24th, 2007, 01:52 PM
I think the min season atlantis should get to is 7 Lets hope so

Mattathias2.0
October 24th, 2007, 01:53 PM
I say it should go as long as possible, as long as it is entertaining and doesn't become SG-1 S9.

iolanda
October 24th, 2007, 02:22 PM
I think it should go as long as it is a really great show! That means at least 5 news seasons! :D

MechaThor
October 24th, 2007, 02:39 PM
BOO YEAH! theres offically going ot be a series 5!

This is great news, as from wat we have seen so far of series 4, Atlantis has gained so much strength from being lifted from the fading shadow of SG-1!

I hope for a BIGGER, DARKER and more FURLING filled (i wish lol) series 5!

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 02:45 PM
BOO YEAH! theres offically going ot be a series 5!

This is great news, as from wat we have seen so far of series 4, Atlantis has gained so much strength from being lifted from the fading shadow of SG-1!

I hope for a BIGGER, DARKER and more FURLING filled (i wish lol) series 5!
Furlings.....does that legacy really need to pass on to SGA? The topic of Furlings must feel like dying a slow painful death for the producers..... :jack_new_anime06:

MechaThor
October 24th, 2007, 03:15 PM
Furlings.....does that legacy really need to pass on to SGA? The topic of Furlings must feel like dying a slow painful death for the producers..... :jack_new_anime06:

GOOD!

Then they know whats its like to be a Furling fan! Thye can't promise use a change to see them then not fulfill it! The 200th episode don't count as the epsiode was not even meant to be considered "real".

Anyways.... Congrats SGA on the excellent news!

morjana
October 24th, 2007, 04:08 PM
*looks around* Nope! Don't see it!

We've got our fifth season guys, so here's a place for the pros to discuss!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117974591.html?categoryid=14&cs=1


Excellent news. Stargate Atlantis is a very enjoyable, entertaining and fun show, season four has rocked so far, I'm looking forward to season five.

Congratulations to everyone at Bridge Studios for the fifth season renewal.

Morjana

ChopinGal
October 24th, 2007, 04:13 PM
I'm thrilled to hear that the show goes on. It's good news for cast and crew and Canada. The changing of the Atlantis' location and the use of two major enemies, Wraith and Replicators, not to mention some indigenous snaky thingy on the new home planet ... provide lots of promising material for the writers ... the return of Beckett and possibly Weir add to the fun.

Watching Sam Carter grow into command is another bonus for lots of her fans too!

MGM/SciFi made a wise move. :)

Mitchell82
October 24th, 2007, 05:41 PM
I'm floored. I had hoped we'd hear something by Friday...but Dude! And I love what SciFi said about it:The way that worded screams to me that it was a no-brainer, even for them *focuses on glee...refrains from making further disparaging comments about the suits @ SciFi*

And now I must subscribe to this thread and give it five big ol' stars. :)

Same here! Lets try to keep posting in here and make it bigger than the anti one! I am just as floored as you when I read the news I screemed WHOOHOOOOO! *my poor cat is still stuck on the roof*;)

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 05:49 PM
Same here! Lets try to keep posting in here and make it bigger than the anti one! I am just as floored as you when I read the news I screemed WHOOHOOOOO! *my poor cat is still stuck on the roof*;)
Your poor cat! :eek:





I managed to coax mine down already. :P

Mitchell82
October 24th, 2007, 05:52 PM
Your poor cat! :eek:





I managed to coax mine down already. :P

:lol: Can't help it very excited.




here kitty kitty kitty.;)

SylvreWolfe
October 24th, 2007, 05:58 PM
So that is at least 35 more eps to look forward to! Oh Happy days!!!! :p

Looks like your Little White Puppy dog butt was right.

As per your little comment you left me, bite me :P

Mandysg1
October 24th, 2007, 05:59 PM
Same here! Lets try to keep posting in here and make it bigger than the anti one! I am just as floored as you when I read the news I screemed WHOOHOOOOO! *my poor cat is still stuck on the roof*;)

Well get him down in time to watch the next episode with you ;)

Mitchell82
October 24th, 2007, 06:03 PM
Well get him down in time to watch the next episode with you ;)

I will he loves watching Rodney. Seriously he perks up when Mckay is on.

Trek_Girl42
October 24th, 2007, 06:11 PM
I will he loves watching Rodney. Seriously he perks up when Mckay is on.
Who wouldn't perk up when McKay is on? :mckay: :D

Mitchell82
October 24th, 2007, 06:15 PM
Who wouldn't perk up when McKay is on? :mckay: :D

Me. I perk up when Carter,Keller and Teyla come on.;)

justhere1971
October 24th, 2007, 06:20 PM
Personally I would like to see an all Shep show ;)

Ltcolshepjumper
October 24th, 2007, 06:22 PM
Here's hoping for Weir and Beckett. And more Teyla;)

justhere1971
October 24th, 2007, 06:23 PM
Here's hoping for Weir and Beckett. And more Teyla;)

Double that.

Princess Awinita
October 24th, 2007, 06:24 PM
I perk up when Teyla comes onscreen..... along with Shep....and McKay.... and Ronon and whomever else I can snag before they flee (when I write very whump filled stories that is they all try to flee)

the fifth man
October 24th, 2007, 06:24 PM
I am so happy to hear we're getting a fifth season.:) It'll be really nice to see where TPTB take this show the rest of this season, and now, next season.

Alipeeps
October 25th, 2007, 07:06 AM
Still so excited over this announcement. There were so many things that were different this year with the long hiatus etc and the season airing later in the year than usual and it was hard to get a fix on how SciFi would look at renewal compared to previous years and it just felt like there was so much uncertainty... and now it feels like a weight has been lifted!

We get a fifth season! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! :D

ussrelativity
October 25th, 2007, 07:17 AM
I'm still excited too. We still have to see a larger amount of Season Four before we can get some real speculation going on what is to come in Season Five.

Alipeeps
October 25th, 2007, 07:19 AM
I'm still excited too. We still have to see a larger amount of Season Four before we can get some real speculation going on what is to come in Season Five.

Indeed. It's an odd situation to be in where we've gotten renewal when we've only just started seeing Season 4.... but lovely nonetheless, with the thought of another 36 episodes to enjoy! :D

suse
October 25th, 2007, 07:21 AM
OMFG, Did Mark Stern die? This is great news, and I am not surprised to be honest because once it hits 100 episodes, lotsa money from syndication. It's a surprise in the fact that they'd renew it after a few episodes had aired. They stabbed SG1 in the back after it aired just a few more episodes.

--

It's very surprising indeed. I had thought that they'd have waited for the DVR ratings for each episode and renew it (or not) sometime during the second half of the season. However I won't complain.

SG-1 aired much earlier in the year. They had to renew now to allocate the money in the budget for next year. :)

I'm happy they renewed. For various reasons. :)

suse

Astraldust
October 25th, 2007, 07:28 AM
Indeed. It's an odd situation to be in where we've gotten renewal when we've only just started seeing Season 4.... but lovely nonetheless, with the thought of another 36 episodes to enjoy! :D

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to that Ali, 36 episodes!!!

ussrelativity
October 25th, 2007, 07:37 AM
Maybe we will see more Ancient warships in Season Five.

Briangate78
October 25th, 2007, 09:34 AM
Maybe we will see more Ancient warships in Season Five.

I would like to know more about the Ascension process. Maybe see the point of view from the ancients who ascended. :)

Team SG-1*save the show*
October 25th, 2007, 01:37 PM
YAY!!!! season 5.

I would like to see more carson and Ford in season 5!!! Cant say what else i would like to see until i have seen the rest of season 4 :D

sandyer
October 25th, 2007, 05:07 PM
Teyla (and weir?) given some really good A-plots heres to my hopes.

pisces27
October 25th, 2007, 05:33 PM
I'd like to see more and learn more of the Wraith and some new enemies would be nice.

More team centric eps. More background info sprinkled here and there.(unless we get that in s4, but then we always want more).

More exploration of Atlantis and the new planet they are on.

scififreak23
October 25th, 2007, 07:48 PM
i'm glad that we're getting a season five. It gives me hope that they can rectify some serious erros that they've done to the show. Hopefully the'lly bring back beckett. I think daniel will be in the 100th episode. Can't wait for season five!

Briangate78
October 26th, 2007, 06:02 AM
I was just looking at the overall picture here. SGA if it stays steady in ratings, could very well have many more seasons. What would be even cooler, is to see SGU run along SGA, that will attract a lot more viewers!

Jill_Ion
October 26th, 2007, 11:17 AM
WoooHoooo!!! I heard a couple of days ago about S5, and am still doing a few happy dances when I think of it. :)

Can't say much else, as we're only 1/4 the way through S4!

*hums and dances*

Briangate78
October 26th, 2007, 11:24 AM
WoooHoooo!!! I heard a couple of days ago about S5, and am still doing a few happy dances when I think of it. :)

Can't say much else, as we're only 1/4 the way through S4!

*hums and dances*

Probably by the end of this year we'll know more what the producers are planning for Season 5. Anyway, I can enjoy Season 4 even more, knowing there will be more after this season. :p

Trek_Girl42
October 26th, 2007, 11:57 AM
Probably by the end of this year we'll know more what the producers are planning for Season 5. Anyway, I can enjoy Season 4 even more, knowing there will be more after this season. :p
I know exactly what you mean- we can all relax now, without having to fret over whether this is the last season or not. :D

DONNA BOOTH
October 26th, 2007, 02:04 PM
Im defianatley hoping to see more Teyla centric episodes next year as well

Alipeeps
October 26th, 2007, 02:14 PM
I know exactly what you mean- we can all relax now, without having to fret over whether this is the last season or not. :D

Oh exactly. You've hit the nail on the head. I cna enjoy season 4 all the more now, knowing that there's going to be more to come after this and that I am not watching what could be the last eps... :D

P.S. Donnabooth.. if you don't mind a friendly tip? Putting your entire post in bold is the online equivalent of shouting. It looks much better - and is easier on the eyes of other users - if you don't bold everything. :)

BerrySciFi
October 26th, 2007, 05:43 PM
YESSSS!!! Thank God! I'm so happy we get at least one more season! Jeez I've been so worried... I hope The SciFi Channel will remain true to their word- they don't always, you know. Sorry, I'm scarred from past SciFi Channel actions. Ok, think positively, Berry. Let's keep those ratings going up so there are no second-thoughts over at The BonnieChannel! Congratulations to TPTB at Stargate!!!

the fifth man
October 26th, 2007, 07:36 PM
YESSSS!!! Thank God! I'm so happy we get at least one more season! Jeez I've been so worried... I hope The SciFi Channel will remain true to their word- they don't always, you know. Sorry, I'm scarred from past SciFi Channel actions. Ok, think positively, Berry. Let's keep those ratings going up so there are no second-thoughts over at The BonnieChannel! Congratulations to TPTB at Stargate!!!

I'm totally with you on not fully trusting the Sci-Fi Channel. I'll breath much easier once next season is actually in production. But for now, it's nice to think about what next season could hold.:)

L.A. Doyle
October 27th, 2007, 11:57 AM
Just here to express my delight in another season of SGA!! :D

ReganX
October 27th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Just here to express my delight in another season of SGA!! :D

Absolutely. If the writers have the security of another season, they won't need to worry about rushing storylines or anything.

Naonak
October 27th, 2007, 12:48 PM
Probably by the end of this year we'll know more what the producers are planning for Season 5. Anyway, I can enjoy Season 4 even more, knowing there will be more after this season. :p

I know exactly what you mean- we can all relax now, without having to fret over whether this is the last season or not. :D
:indeed:

Briangate78
October 27th, 2007, 01:38 PM
:indeed:

WE do need to still keep supporting the show, let your friends know about it, there is not too many seasons for them to pickup. My theory is Sci-fi has no intentions of letting a SG fall off their schedule. Season 4 is bringing in nearly 1.9 million fans which is like a 1.4 season average. Only one show beats out SGA in ratings, and that is Eureka.

The numbers stay like this there should be a season 6,7, and so on. Also, if you read the interview with Joe M, he said that Cooper and Wright are now focused on SGU. Wouldn't be awesome to have SGU run along SGA, like SG-1 did with SGA? :cool:

Mitchell82
October 27th, 2007, 10:51 PM
WE do need to still keep supporting the show, let your friends know about it, there is not too many seasons for them to pickup. My theory is Sci-fi has no intentions of letting a SG fall off their schedule. Season 4 is bringing in nearly 1.9 million fans which is like a 1.4 season average. Only one show beats out SGA in ratings, and that is Eureka.

The numbers stay like this there should be a season 6,7, and so on. Also, if you read the interview with Joe M, he said that Cooper and Wright are now focused on SGU. Wouldn't be awesome to have SGU run along SGA, like SG-1 did with SGA? :cool:
Ooo I'd love that here's to epsiode 200!

Platschu
October 28th, 2007, 01:31 AM
Maybe they should make a "reversed season". They should write the 100th episode, the season 5 finale at first and than the other 19 episodes would be about how to reach that condition. :)

For example.
- The Wraith settled to the planets and they begin to leave and trade with human civilizations
- The Travelers create trade routes with the MW folks (Serrakin, Goa'uld, Unas, Jaffa)
- Replicators discover the lost inheritance and they leave the Pegasus galaxy to rebuild the Ida galaxy - they also find cure to save the Asgard (download the minds from Odussey into new Asgard body), so the machines can ascend after compensating their crimes
- a second and third Gate Brige will be build between MW-Ida and MW-Ori galaxy
- Atlantis is revealed to all Pegasus planet and it became a capital city
- New Athosia will have a major role in peace talks, Teyla will be a hero forever
- Carter leaves Atlantis to live at Washington
- Keller has a child from Ronon
- McKay will be the leader of Atlantis and a very good husband of Katie
- Zelenka will get a Nobel prize
- Sheppard will bring Larrin to Earth and they live together
- Ronon find help to rebuild Sateda, new colonists arrive from AU
- Ancients returns as avatars

etc.

Mitchell82
October 28th, 2007, 10:27 AM
Maybe they should make a "reversed season". They should write the 100th episode, the season 5 finale at first and than the other 19 episodes would be about how to reach that condition. :)
That would be confusing to do.


For example.
- The Wraith settled to the planets and they begin to leave and trade with human civilizations
The Wraith would never trade with humans they need us for food. Some might ally with humans as a last ditch effort but not all.

- The Travelers create trade routes with the MW folks (Serrakin, Goa'uld, Unas, Jaffa)
Sorry no. First no way they could do that unless they have a intergalactic hyperdrive also the Goa'uld are basically destroyed, Unas wouldn't understand, Jaffa wouldn't accept and the Serakin well they worship the Ori. THat would be a horrible idea.

- Replicators discover the lost inheritance and they leave the Pegasus galaxy to rebuild the Ida galaxy - they also find cure to save the Asgard (download the minds from Odussey into new Asgard body), so the machines can ascend after compensating their crimes
- a second and third Gate Brige will be build between MW-Ida and MW-Ori galaxy
Uh uh. That reeks of plot device and tptb would never go that route.


- Atlantis is revealed to all Pegasus planet and it became a capital city
That would have the almost same effect as if the SGC was revealed to Earth. End the show. Also it would cause some unfavorable ellements in Oegasus to attack Atlantis. Not a good idea.

- New Athosia will have a major role in peace talks, Teyla will be a hero forever
Teyla in a leader role not bad I like that idea.

- Carter leaves Atlantis to live at Washington
Not until the show ends, so she can go to be with Jack.

- Keller has a child from Ronon
Uh no this is not a soap.

- McKay will be the leader of Atlantis and a very good husband of Katie
Uh no to leader as to husband to Katie sure.

- Zelenka will get a Nobel prize
Ok not a bad idea.

- Sheppard will bring Larrin to Earth and they live together
I like Larrin but no.

- Ronon find help to rebuild Sateda, new colonists arrive from AU
- Ancients returns as avatars

etc.

Nope sorry.

Trek_Girl42
October 28th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Maybe they should make a "reversed season". They should write the 100th episode, the season 5 finale at first and than the other 19 episodes would be about how to reach that condition. :)
In a word: no. Structuring an entire season around one episode is just asking for trouble. Look at Angel season four. The impression that I got was that much of the season was structured around getting Faith out of jail and into a few episodes (granted there were several other production factors involved that made a mess of things). All of the surrounding episodes felt like they were there just to serve a couple of great ones. Bad move.

Look at Buffy season six- they structured the entire thing around one spectacular musical episode, which ticked off a lot of people because everything else was there to serve the events of the musical. Personally I loved that season, a much better job was done of it that Angel season four. But it had it's issues and that all stemmed from servicing the entire season to one episode and where it fit into the production schedule. Though I think in that case it was more than worth it.



For example.
- The Wraith settled to the planets and they begin to leave and trade with human civilizations
Uhhh.....what human would even consider the Wraith as a trading partner? And what wraith would consider trading with a human when he can just have him as a snack?


- The Travelers create trade routes with the MW folks (Serrakin, Goa'uld, Unas, Jaffa)
^ Mitchell82 got it right.



- Replicators discover the lost inheritance and they leave the Pegasus galaxy to rebuild the Ida galaxy - they also find cure to save the Asgard (download the minds from Odussey into new Asgard body), so the machines can ascend after compensating their crimes
No. The Asgard are dead, they need to stay that way.


- a second and third Gate Brige will be build between MW-Ida and MW-Ori galaxy
Errr.....no. We've got enough issues in two galaxy without opening a whole new can of worms to two more. And the U.S. military does have a budget.


- Atlantis is revealed to all Pegasus planet and it became a capital city
Trouble. Does Earth really want to be governing the entire population of a galaxy? Does Earth want to risk opening all sort of disputes? Nope. Atlantis needs to stay hidden, and the people of the galaxy need to look after themselves, they wouldn't take kindly to anyone ruling over them, because that is what would happen.



- New Athosia will have a major role in peace talks, Teyla will be a hero forever
Alright.


- Carter leaves Atlantis to live at Washington
*sigh* I see where that one is going, an no. Ick. ;)


- Keller has a child from Ronon
ick again.


- McKay will be the leader of Atlantis and a very good husband of Katie
No, and alright.


- Zelenka will get a Nobel prize
Go Zelenka! :zelenka25:


- Sheppard will bring Larrin to Earth and they live together
Eww. Triple ick.


- Ronon find help to rebuild Sateda, new colonists arrive from AU
Nope. Why would anyone want to move to a new reality? It would feel.....fake. The Satedans are gone, they need to stay that way.


- Ancients returns as avatars
Nope, the ancients are gone, they need to stay that way.


If we're on the subject of things we want to happen..... (some serious, some not so serious, some semi-serious)
- Lorne will become a master painter and sell his paintings of things and places in Pegasus on Earth (permission of the U.S. government would be unlikely, but hey.....), of course no one would know that it's all real, he'd be lauded as a great science fiction visionary. :D

- Weir will return as leader of Atlantis for continued exploration, Sam will eventually become head of the SGC.

- Jeannie would take a part-time job at Atlantis. With Midway it's an easy trip back to her family. Mckay would make the time to visit and work on becoming a better brother and uncle.

- Mckay would continue to live at Atlantis as head scientist, he'd bring his cat to stay, and an ascended Beckett will come to visit occasionally. :D

- Daniel will move over to Atlantis. The nickname "Daniel Disneyland" will stick.

- Keller will stay on as chief medical officer.

- Ronon will realize that he has nothing left to do after the wraith are eliminated. He'll hang around Atlantis, going through a life crisis, starting to eat more and exercise less. It will require an intervention on the part of Sheppard and Dr. Keller, but things will work out in the end.

- Teyla will leave Atlantis to be with her people.

- Sheppard will stick around Atlantis as head of the military, cause hey, there are plenty of alien women out there, and he bets Mckay that he'll have a girl on every inhabited planet. He accidentally gets married ala "Our Mrs. Reynolds" and hilarity ensues. He finally learns his lesson.

Platschu
October 28th, 2007, 01:56 PM
Oh. I didn't express myself well with my bad English. I would like to see that they know what they want to reach. So what would be the ideal ending for Atlantis? How can we reach this level? I think they should make more metaplot based stories and less stand alone, so we can feel that every episode connects to each other. ;) I love Babylon 5 and BSG, because I can feel that the show has a direction and they know how to finish it (characters, races). I feel the same in Atlantis's season4, but I hope for an even better imagined season. :D It will sound as an commonplace, what I will say, but they should make every episode even if it is the last. I can remember what Weir said at Rising:

I was hoping for another day. Looks like we just got a whole lot more than that. Let's not waste it.

I wrote above only examples for the future (at the end of season 5-6-7-8), but some question should be answered:

1. If you begin a war storyline, how can you finish it logically? Will they fight until the last man / hive ship / replicator body? Can they live together in peace after that? Can they find a cure for the Wraith (cloned animals, shutdown the hunger genes etc.)? Will the Ancients ever return to rebuild the Pegasus galaxy and teach the minor races? Will the Asurans know about their brothers?

2. What will happen with the characters in the future? Will they work only and don't have private live? Will they have boyfriend, girlfriend, marriage or children? Why should a character decide that he/she goes back to Earth or other Pegasus planet and leave Atlantis forever?

I wanted to say that the war storyline looks very interesting, but they should make plans for "peace times". It would be so cool to keep the Asurans and Wraith as neutral / allied / enemy state and not wipe them out. We should learn more about their skills, history, classes, religion, diplomacy levels, so they can return to SG franchise's roots. If the want to begin new threat than they can create new advanced races. :)

scififreak23
October 29th, 2007, 06:54 AM
can't wait for season five! I'm looking forward to seeing daniel in atlantis again. You know what i'm hoping for in season five? Furlings. I'd really like to have some info on those guys but we probably won't get it.Anyway, this series is still enjoyable to watch so as long as it remains that way i say keep bringing on the seasons.:)

Briangate78
October 29th, 2007, 10:05 AM
can't wait for season five! I'm looking forward to seeing daniel in atlantis again. You know what i'm hoping for in season five? Furlings. I'd really like to have some info on those guys but we probably won't get it.Anyway, this series is still enjoyable to watch so as long as it remains that way i say keep bringing on the seasons.:)

With a whole new season, there is just so much opportunity. I think Daniel and O'neill might be strong possibilities to show up in S5! RDA and the SGA crew got along very well and he enjoys working on the set. :)

Lahela
October 29th, 2007, 10:19 AM
As much as I adore Jack, I would hate for them to use him purely as a ratings puller - they'd have to have a good reason for him being there, otherwise it's just a cheap shot. I have horrible images of shippy scenes... *eeeeewwww*

I can totally see Daniel being in Atlantis - it would have made sense to have him there, at least for a visit, in season one, let alone season five!

Briangate78
October 29th, 2007, 10:47 AM
As much as I adore Jack, I would hate for them to use him purely as a ratings puller - they'd have to have a good reason for him being there, otherwise it's just a cheap shot. I have horrible images of shippy scenes... *eeeeewwww*

I can totally see Daniel being in Atlantis - it would have made sense to have him there, at least for a visit, in season one, let alone season five!

Well "The return" was a great episode. Heck, if it is a good ep, and O'neill has a significant role, why not. The higher ratings are always helpful too.

Lahela
October 29th, 2007, 10:58 AM
Well "The return" was a great episode. Heck, if it is a good ep, and O'neill has a significant role, why not. The higher ratings are always helpful too.

Totally agree!!! He really belonged there, as did Woolsey :) Don't get me wrong, I would love to see him in SGA again - I just want it to make sense :)

Trek_Girl42
October 29th, 2007, 11:02 AM
Well "The return" was a great episode. Heck, if it is a good ep, and O'neill has a significant role, why not. The higher ratings are always helpful too.
The Return.....how much I love those episodes. Especially Return II. RDA was fantastic in that, and the whole Woolsey/O'Neill duo was played perfectly. I'd love to see that Jack back again on Atlantis. :D I do not want to see RDA return just to fullfill shippy storylines. :rolleyes:

Briangate78
October 29th, 2007, 11:38 AM
Totally agree!!! He really belonged there, as did Woolsey :) Don't get me wrong, I would love to see him in SGA again - I just want it to make sense :)


The Return.....how much I love those episodes. Especially Return II. RDA was fantastic in that, and the whole Woolsey/O'Neill duo was played perfectly. I'd love to see that Jack back again on Atlantis. :D I do not want to see RDA return just to fullfill shippy storylines. :rolleyes:

Like I said, he enjoys doing it, and a guest ep or two will not take too much time away from his family. It's not really the money, the guy is set for life, lol. It's just working and keeping busy and having fun. :)

scififreak23
October 29th, 2007, 01:27 PM
oh!I'd also like to see carter out as leader of atlantis and woosley in as leader of atlantis and have him be a really good leader for once and becomes friends with either ronon or sheppard. Talk about your strange and odd couple. Huge woosley supporter since sg-1. If the writers did that it would totally rock!:)

Mitchell82
October 29th, 2007, 05:27 PM
Like I said, he enjoys doing it, and a guest ep or two will not take too much time away from his family. It's not really the money, the guy is set for life, lol. It's just working and keeping busy and having fun. :)

I agree that those eps were great but it is about money just on the producers side. They have said he's very expensive. But I would like at least a mention of her and jack.

Mitchell82
October 29th, 2007, 05:28 PM
oh!I'd also like to see carter out as leader of atlantis and woosley in as leader of atlantis and have him be a really good leader for once and becomes friends with either ronon or sheppard. Talk about your strange and odd couple. Huge woosley supporter since sg-1. If the writers did that it would totally rock!:)

Uh uh no. It'll start a riot if they do that. Also I'd hate that aswell.

Mattathias2.0
October 29th, 2007, 06:28 PM
I agree on that. I like Woolsey as a character, but he is still a beaurocrat.

Jumper_One
October 30th, 2007, 04:20 AM
oh!I'd also like to see carter out as leader of atlantis and woosley in as leader of atlantis and have him be a really good leader for once and becomes friends with either ronon or sheppard. Talk about your strange and odd couple. Huge woosley supporter since sg-1. If the writers did that it would totally rock!:)

no! please no

Mandysg1
October 30th, 2007, 08:04 AM
I agree on that. I like Woolsey as a character, but he is still a beaurocrat.

I get this image of him, of hiding behind people as soon as things get dangerous :P :D

SMB_BOOKS
October 30th, 2007, 11:28 AM
Hello All - my first post on this thread. I am excited that S5 is now possible for SGA. It gives me more opportunity to lobby for my favorite character! ;) :weir:

I visited JM's blog today and saw all the posters sharing their opinions about the anti-S5 thread. Don't hurt me yet - I know this is NOT the anti-S5 thread.

I decided to post on JM's blog, but also wanted to share my post here - I just felt like it would be appropriate for you all to see what I wrote. I did reference both the pro-S5 and anti-S5 threads in my post on JM's blog.

It was not my intention to speak on behalf of a thread, just to illustrate a different point of view to the whole "anti" and "pro" thing.....anyhoo - here's what I posted on JM's blog....


Just throwing some things out there for discussion on the blog, since there have been several comments/opinions posted on JM's blog about GW threads.

Currently, their exists both a "Pro S5" and a "Anti S5" thread on GW.

And, while I don't really "play" in either thread, I do visit each occasionally.

I believe, the Pro thread is for fans to discuss what they hope happens in S5, what they are excited about for S5, etc. For me that would be "Gosh, I really hope Elizabeth is back home on Atlantis in S5".

And, I believe, the Anti thread is for fans to discuss what worries them about S5 or what they hope doesn't happen in S5. For me that would be "Gosh, I hope Elizabeth isn't dead in S4 with no hope of return for S5."

Granted, as with any online forum, there will be posters who take things off-topic, or too far, or go over the top, etc. (i.e. there may be some Pro S5 posters who think anything that happens in S5 will be great, no matter what and there will be some Anti S5 posters who are convinced that S5 will be bad, no matter what).

I don't support either extreme, but figure different folks have different ways of expressing themselves.

I'm not sure what I'm asking that we discuss here, perhaps I just wanted to make a point that not all people who post in the "Pro S5" thread on GW fit into one category just like not all people who post in the "Anti S5" thread fit into one category, either.

Mandysg1
October 30th, 2007, 12:25 PM
Hello All - my first post on this thread. I am excited that S5 is now possible for SGA. It gives me more opportunity to lobby for my favorite character! ;) :weir:

I visited JM's blog today and saw all the posters sharing their opinions about the anti-S5 thread. Don't hurt me yet - I know this is NOT the anti-S5 thread.

I decided to post on JM's blog, but also wanted to share my post here - I just felt like it would be appropriate for you all to see what I wrote. I did reference both the pro-S5 and anti-S5 threads in my post on JM's blog.

It was not my intention to speak on behalf of a thread, just to illustrate a different point of view to the whole "anti" and "pro" thing.....anyhoo - here's what I posted on JM's blog....


Just throwing some things out there for discussion on the blog, since there have been several comments/opinions posted on JM's blog about GW threads.

Currently, their exists both a "Pro S5" and a "Anti S5" thread on GW.

And, while I don't really "play" in either thread, I do visit each occasionally.

I believe, the Pro thread is for fans to discuss what they hope happens in S5, what they are excited about for S5, etc. For me that would be "Gosh, I really hope Elizabeth is back home on Atlantis in S5".

And, I believe, the Anti thread is for fans to discuss what worries them about S5 or what they hope doesn't happen in S5. For me that would be "Gosh, I hope Elizabeth isn't dead in S4 with no hope of return for S5."

Granted, as with any online forum, there will be posters who take things off-topic, or too far, or go over the top, etc. (i.e. there may be some Pro S5 posters who think anything that happens in S5 will be great, no matter what and there will be some Anti S5 posters who are convinced that S5 will be bad, no matter what).

I don't support either extreme, but figure different folks have different ways of expressing themselves.

I'm not sure what I'm asking that we discuss here, perhaps I just wanted to make a point that not all people who post in the "Pro S5" thread on GW fit into one category just like not all people who post in the "Anti S5" thread fit into one category, either.



Nice post SMB_BOOKS, and I agree not everyone can fit entirely into one group ;) While I have been enjoying S4 so far and am hoping for the best in S5, I can still find some points in an episode I may not have liked or agreed with.

Trek_Girl42
October 30th, 2007, 01:16 PM
Nice post SMB_BOOKS, and I agree not everyone can fit entirely into one group ;) While I have been enjoying S4 so far and am hoping for the best in S5, I can still find some points in an episode I may not have liked or agreed with.
I agree- pegging into little groups doesn't quite work in a fandom where opinions fly all over the place and two posters might agree with each other at one minute and be at each other's throats the next.....

I've always looked at Pro threads representing a general optimism, and anti-threads representing a general pessimism. I don't believe that you have to hate everything to be an anti poster in the anti thread, and I also don't believe that you have to gush over everything to be a pro poster in the pro thread- there's a lot more cross-ever between the groups, more than most will admit. Both threads overlap with optimistic and pessimistic natures, they just lean in opposite directions.

God knows I read the anti threads on occasion and do find myself agreeing with some of the comments, but I like to take the optimistic stance, which is why I stay posting in the pro threads. :)

Briangate78
October 31st, 2007, 10:05 AM
Hello All - my first post on this thread. I am excited that S5 is now possible for SGA. It gives me more opportunity to lobby for my favorite character! ;) :weir:

I visited JM's blog today and saw all the posters sharing their opinions about the anti-S5 thread. Don't hurt me yet - I know this is NOT the anti-S5 thread.

I decided to post on JM's blog, but also wanted to share my post here - I just felt like it would be appropriate for you all to see what I wrote. I did reference both the pro-S5 and anti-S5 threads in my post on JM's blog.

It was not my intention to speak on behalf of a thread, just to illustrate a different point of view to the whole "anti" and "pro" thing.....anyhoo - here's what I posted on JM's blog....


Just throwing some things out there for discussion on the blog, since there have been several comments/opinions posted on JM's blog about GW threads.

Currently, their exists both a "Pro S5" and a "Anti S5" thread on GW.

And, while I don't really "play" in either thread, I do visit each occasionally.

I believe, the Pro thread is for fans to discuss what they hope happens in S5, what they are excited about for S5, etc. For me that would be "Gosh, I really hope Elizabeth is back home on Atlantis in S5".

And, I believe, the Anti thread is for fans to discuss what worries them about S5 or what they hope doesn't happen in S5. For me that would be "Gosh, I hope Elizabeth isn't dead in S4 with no hope of return for S5."

Granted, as with any online forum, there will be posters who take things off-topic, or too far, or go over the top, etc. (i.e. there may be some Pro S5 posters who think anything that happens in S5 will be great, no matter what and there will be some Anti S5 posters who are convinced that S5 will be bad, no matter what).

I don't support either extreme, but figure different folks have different ways of expressing themselves.

I'm not sure what I'm asking that we discuss here, perhaps I just wanted to make a point that not all people who post in the "Pro S5" thread on GW fit into one category just like not all people who post in the "Anti S5" thread fit into one category, either.




Nice post SMB_BOOKS, and I agree not everyone can fit entirely into one group ;) While I have been enjoying S4 so far and am hoping for the best in S5, I can still find some points in an episode I may not have liked or agreed with.

Indeed, nice post SMB! I am very hopeful for the rest of this season, and I have very high hopes for Season 5. I just hope Weir will have a part in S5.

Platschu
November 1st, 2007, 04:12 PM
Can you imagine and accept a B-storyline in a Sheppard centric episode, where he will arrange that the allied Wraith (for example Todd) has to cure Everett from aging? It could be a good closure to the SiegeIII storyline and maybe Sheppard could reach forgiveness about his role in Sumner's death. :o

Ltcolshepjumper
November 1st, 2007, 06:16 PM
Can you imagine and accept a B-storyline in a Sheppard centric episode, where he will arrange that the allied Wraith (for example Todd) has to cure Everett from aging? It could be a good closure to the SiegeIII storyline and maybe Sheppard could reach forgiveness about his role in Sumner's death. :o

They should do that.

scififreak23
November 1st, 2007, 07:14 PM
i really would like woosley to make an appearance in season five. Also, i'd like to have an episode where a race tries to use sheppard's ata gene for their own use and i'm not talking about like what the travellers did.I'm talking about a race using sheppard as a weapon and force him to use the ancient technology to destroy another race that they're at war at. It would be intresting to see how sheppard would react to that.

Platschu
November 1st, 2007, 10:29 PM
It would be interesting to see a scene, where Carter and Sheppard speak about the died expedition members. Weir knew everybody and she made messages for the relatives. Will Carter react the same as she became a leader? Will Sheppard remember his soldier's name after a year? What they think about the loss? Will they visit cemetery on Earth? etc.

Alipeeps
November 2nd, 2007, 03:45 AM
i really would like woosley to make an appearance in season five. Also, i'd like to have an episode where a race tries to use sheppard's ata gene for their own use and i'm not talking about like what the travellers did.I'm talking about a race using sheppard as a weapon and force him to use the ancient technology to destroy another race that they're at war at. It would be intresting to see how sheppard would react to that.

Now that I would love to see. I think Sheppard's strong gene is a storyline that they've really rather failed to develop and do anything with... the premise you suggest, with a race trying to use Sheppard to activate an Ancient weapon for their own destructive means would make for a really dramatic episode.

prion
November 2nd, 2007, 05:54 AM
Now that I would love to see. I think Sheppard's strong gene is a storyline that they've really rather failed to develop and do anything with... the premise you suggest, with a race trying to use Sheppard to activate an Ancient weapon for their own destructive means would make for a really dramatic episode.

I'd be pro season 5 if we got meaty episodes like this. This is more of a wishlist thread right now as heck, just getting season 5 is only the start. I'll be much more pro if by the end of season 4, the replicators are snuffed out. They decide that SGA characters are enough and don't transplant any more SG1 folk, and they burn all the new uniforms ;)

prion
November 2nd, 2007, 06:02 AM
Hello All - my first post on this thread. I am excited that S5 is now possible for SGA. It gives me more opportunity to lobby for my favorite character! ;) :weir:

I visited JM's blog today and saw all the posters sharing their opinions about the anti-S5 thread. Don't hurt me yet - I know this is NOT the anti-S5 thread.

I decided to post on JM's blog, but also wanted to share my post here - I just felt like it would be appropriate for you all to see what I wrote. I did reference both the pro-S5 and anti-S5 threads in my post on JM's blog.

It was not my intention to speak on behalf of a thread, just to illustrate a different point of view to the whole "anti" and "pro" thing.....anyhoo - here's what I posted on JM's blog....


Just throwing some things out there for discussion on the blog, since there have been several comments/opinions posted on JM's blog about GW threads.

Currently, their exists both a "Pro S5" and a "Anti S5" thread on GW.

And, while I don't really "play" in either thread, I do visit each occasionally.

I believe, the Pro thread is for fans to discuss what they hope happens in S5, what they are excited about for S5, etc. For me that would be "Gosh, I really hope Elizabeth is back home on Atlantis in S5".

And, I believe, the Anti thread is for fans to discuss what worries them about S5 or what they hope doesn't happen in S5. For me that would be "Gosh, I hope Elizabeth isn't dead in S4 with no hope of return for S5."

Granted, as with any online forum, there will be posters who take things off-topic, or too far, or go over the top, etc. (i.e. there may be some Pro S5 posters who think anything that happens in S5 will be great, no matter what and there will be some Anti S5 posters who are convinced that S5 will be bad, no matter what).

I don't support either extreme, but figure different folks have different ways of expressing themselves.

I'm not sure what I'm asking that we discuss here, perhaps I just wanted to make a point that not all people who post in the "Pro S5" thread on GW fit into one category just like not all people who post in the "Anti S5" thread fit into one category, either.



Good post.

Mitchell82
November 2nd, 2007, 07:24 PM
I'd be pro season 5 if we got meaty episodes like this. This is more of a wishlist thread right now as heck, just getting season 5 is only the start. I'll be much more pro if by the end of season 4, the replicators are snuffed out. They decide that SGA characters are enough and don't transplant any more SG1 folk, and they burn all the new uniforms ;)

Nah I like the Asurans as they are much different than the MW ones, like the new uniforms but I agree and disagree on the SG-1 character front. I have no issue with Carter I'm glad she's here and I hope she stays and I have no issue with Teal'c or Daniel coming over for an ep or two.

ReganX
November 3rd, 2007, 05:42 AM
Nah I like the Asurans as they are much different than the MW ones, like the new uniforms but I agree and disagree on the SG-1 character front. I have no issue with Carter I'm glad she's here and I hope she stays and I have no issue with Teal'c or Daniel coming over for an ep or two.

As long as they keep it to an ep or two - I think that bringing them over for longer would be a mistake.

Briangate78
November 3rd, 2007, 07:25 AM
As long as they keep it to an ep or two - I think that bringing them over for longer would be a mistake.

I agree. BTW, I think "Midway" is going to rock! :tealc: :ronan:

Atlantis1
November 3rd, 2007, 10:04 AM
If season 5 keeps the intensity we are seeing in season 4 then it should be great. At this point I am staying very positive about it. I let people scare me into thinking season 4 would be terrible. I am not going to make that mistake this time. I am going to keep a positive wait and see atitude for season 5.

Briangate78
November 3rd, 2007, 10:11 AM
If season 5 keeps the intensity we are seeing in season 4 then it should be great. At this point I am staying very positive about it. I let people scare me into thinking season 4 would be terrible. I am not going to make that mistake this time. I am going to keep a positive wait and see atitude for season 5.

I think the people who have been complaining now, most of them will be turning around with the next several eps. People complained about too much Sheppard and Mckay and no Teyla. Well wait till the next couple of eps. :p

Also, it would seem the producers have something really big in store for Season 5. Looks like another 3 parter going into S5! Woo hoo! :p

Platschu
November 3rd, 2007, 10:13 AM
I like season 4, but there are too many stand alone episode. Try to imagine an Adrift-Lifeline-Seer-tree-part1-3,kindred1-2, last man combination! This is only 9 episodes out of 20. I know that there will be minor plots (Missing, Midway), but sometimes I feel they should tell us bigger and more complex story. Maybe the ideal rate would be 3:1, so 15 metaplot and only 5 stand alone episode in a season. :o I think they are afraid of the audience can't continue the series so. :(

Briangate78
November 3rd, 2007, 10:17 AM
I like season 4, but there are too many stand alone episode. Try to imagine an Adrift-Lifeline-Seer-tree-part1-3,kindred1-2, last man combination! This is only 9 episodes out of 20. I know that there will be minor plots (Missing, Midway), but sometimes I feel they should tell us bigger and more complex story. Maybe the ideal rate would be 3:1, so 15 metaplot and only 5 stand alone episode in a season. :o I think they are afraid of the audience can't continue the series so. :(

You know what, an average of 10 to 12 eps are going to be on the main story arc for a season. Reunion also had a little development on the story arc if you recall. Bascially the current story arc is "Lost Dr. Weir and The replicator and Wraith war" I cannot wait for the follow up episode.

It's why these stand alone eps must be good. To keep the viewer interested. They have done well with Doppleeganger and last night's ep. :)

Platschu
November 3rd, 2007, 10:32 AM
I liked season10, because every episode had a connection to the 4-5 story arc:

SG-1 season10 spoiler:

A.) Ori crusade - Adria, Supergate
B.) Baal,
C.) Lucian Alliance
D.) Athena and Quetesh's treasure (B2)
E.) Jaffa's reaction to the Ori crusade (A2)
F.) Morgan la Fey, Merlin and the Sangraal

Flesh and Blood - A, C, E
Morpheus - F
The Pegasus Project - A, F
Insiders - B, D
Uninvited - B
200 - X
Counterstrike - A, E
Memento Mori - D
Company of Thieves - C
The Quest, Part 1 - A, B, F
The Quest, Part 2 - A, B, F
Line In the Sand - A
The Road Not Taken - A
The Shroud - A
Bounty - C
Bad Guys - D
Talion - E
Family Ties - E
Dominion - A, B, D, F
Unending - A

I could make such summary for Atlantis season4, but we should wait the episodes. I really liked Reunion and I hope they will bring back Tyre. I also liked Doppelganger, but we knew nothing new about the crystals. They should have traveled to the MW planet with the Gate Bridge to find answers. Travelers is also entertaining and I know they will bring them back at least. So you can see my point of view that I can follow how the writers built up this season, but sometimes I feel they waste too easily screen time or whole episodes to stand alones.

Now, they got 20*42 minutes, so I hope they will use this opportunity as it would be the last season. ;)

Mitchell82
November 3rd, 2007, 03:47 PM
I agree. BTW, I think "Midway" is going to rock! :tealc: :ronan:

Agreed from what I've seen I can't wait.

Mitchell82
November 3rd, 2007, 03:50 PM
You know what, an average of 10 to 12 eps are going to be on the main story arc for a season. Reunion also had a little development on the story arc if you recall. Bascially the current story arc is "Lost Dr. Weir and The replicator and Wraith war" I cannot wait for the follow up episode.

It's why these stand alone eps must be good. To keep the viewer interested. They have done well with Doppleeganger and last night's ep. :)

They've done very well with all six eps IMHO. And it's not good to only have a few filler eps and an entire season focused on one main plot. It can be done well (Season 3 of Enterprise for example). So far I'm very happy with what has been done so far which means season 5 cna be just as good or better.

Briangate78
November 3rd, 2007, 04:22 PM
They've done very well with all six eps IMHO. And it's not good to only have a few filler eps and an entire season focused on one main plot. It can be done well (Season 3 of Enterprise for example). So far I'm very happy with what has been done so far which means season 5 cna be just as good or better.

The only ep this season that was on par but I still enjoyed it was "Travelers" Everything else was A or A+ or 9/10 or 10/10, you get my drift. :P I could probably watch all the eps over and over again.

Mitchell82
November 3rd, 2007, 06:41 PM
The only ep this season that was on par but I still enjoyed it was "Travelers" Everything else was A or A+ or 9/10 or 10/10, you get my drift. :P I could probably watch all the eps over and over again.

Yeah I do and I agree. It wasn't as good as the others but as a good stand alone that will continue later it's still a solid 8.5 or 9 for me.

Briangate78
November 3rd, 2007, 06:47 PM
Yeah I do and I agree. It wasn't as good as the others but as a good stand alone that will continue later it's still a solid 8.5 or 9 for me.

I am anticipating This Mortal Coil the most and then The Kindred. I think these two eps will hold the fate of two great characters for Season 5!

Mitchell82
November 3rd, 2007, 07:07 PM
I am anticipating This Mortal Coil the most and then The Kindred. I think these two eps will hold the fate of two great characters for Season 5!

They will indeed.

the fifth man
November 3rd, 2007, 09:35 PM
I am anticipating This Mortal Coil the most and then The Kindred. I think these two eps will hold the fate of two great characters for Season 5!

I couldn't agree more.:) Definitely episodes to look forward to.

ReganX
November 4th, 2007, 04:58 AM
I am anticipating This Mortal Coil the most and then The Kindred. I think these two eps will hold the fate of two great characters for Season 5!

I'm really looking forward to seeing "The Seer" and how they handle that.

Briangate78
November 4th, 2007, 05:12 AM
Wow did you guys see the most recent thread about Cancelling SGA? :S

ReganX
November 4th, 2007, 05:22 AM
Wow did you guys see the most recent thread about Cancelling SGA? :S

Ignore it. That's really all it's good for.

The poster seems to be missing the point that BSG is Sci-Fi's own show. In all probability, they enjoy a far greater cut of syndication and merchandising rights for it than they do for Atlantis, so it is highly unlikely that if it did come down to a choice between the two, they favour Atlantis over their own show.

If they are cancelling BSG, it is, in all probability, because they, and very probably the writers and producers of BSG, feel that the show cannot continue beyond that point. The decision to renew Atlantis - which has recently benefitted from the inclusion of new characters who will hopefully boost the audience - is likely a completely separate one, so even if they were cancelling Atlantis, I doubt that they would renew BSG.

Briangate78
November 4th, 2007, 05:27 AM
Ignore it. That's really all it's good for.

The poster seems to be missing the point that BSG is Sci-Fi's own show. In all probability, they enjoy a far greater cut of syndication and merchandising rights for it than they do for Atlantis, so it is highly unlikely that if it did come down to a choice between the two, they favour Atlantis over their own show.

If they are cancelling BSG, it is, in all probability, because they, and very probably the writers and producers of BSG, feel that the show cannot continue beyond that point. The decision to renew Atlantis - which has recently benefitted from the inclusion of new characters who will hopefully boost the audience - is likely a completely separate one, so even if they were cancelling Atlantis, I doubt that they would renew BSG.

Well I did mention that SGA did uptick a little better in ratings. Also BSG costs more than SGA to make. Plus, RDM(Ronald D Moore) pulled the plug himself. I post on other forums, that have multiple show forums. You bump into people who are bitter at the SGA renewal. These are BSG, Dresden Files, and Farscape fans. Which goes back to my theory of the ratings are not what they seem.

ReganX
November 4th, 2007, 05:33 AM
Well I did mention that SGA did uptick a little better in ratings. Also BSG costs more than SGA to make. Plus, RDM(Ronald D Moore) pulled the plug himself. I post on other forums, that have multiple show forums. You bump into people who are bitter at the SGA renewal. These are BSG, Dresden Files, and Farscape fans. Which goes back to my theory of the ratings are not what they seem.

I'd say that in at least some of those cases, it's just human nature. Their favourite show has been cancelled and they want to be able to blame something or someone else; the ratings system, fans who have stopped watching and another show that is either taking away viewers or getting renewed.

In this case, they see another show, which they perceive as being no more - perhaps less - deserving of renewal getting another season and resent that.

Platschu
November 4th, 2007, 05:38 AM
I tried to find what acronym he used for the first three episode. :)

S&R
Segmentation and Reassembly
Search & Rescue
Storage & Retrieval
Safety & Reliability
Shipping & Receiving

B&B
Bed and Breakfast
Bread and Butter
Bag and Baggage (US Immigration)
Branch and Bound
The Bold and the Beautiful (TV show)
Boole & Babbage

KGS BGT BSK KSB
Kings
Busch Gardens Tampa, Be Glad To
Basking Shark, Banashankari
Kogod School of Business, Kelley School of Business, Keeper of the Sacred Bundle

http://www.acronymfinder.com/

I can't say I became wiser. :o ;)

Briangate78
November 4th, 2007, 05:49 AM
I'd say that in at least some of those cases, it's just human nature. Their favourite show has been cancelled and they want to be able to blame something or someone else; the ratings system, fans who have stopped watching and another show that is either taking away viewers or getting renewed.

In this case, they see another show, which they perceive as being no more - perhaps less - deserving of renewal getting another season and resent that.

People blamed BSG and Eureka for SG-1's cancellation, where ratings were not the major issue. MGM had the ball and they fumbled.

ReganX
November 4th, 2007, 05:54 AM
People blamed BSG and Eureka for SG-1's cancellation, where ratings were not the major issue. MGM had the ball and they fumbled.

The thing is, a network will invest in a show if it is in their best interests to do so. With SG-1, they decided that it was not - although they seem to have been prepared to consider it if it was offered to them for a lower price. Ratings were an issue in the sense that higher ratings can allow them to charge more for ad time, increasing the profitability of a show. The more money they make from it, the more they're willing to invest.

Briangate78
November 4th, 2007, 06:03 AM
The thing is, a network will invest in a show if it is in their best interests to do so. With SG-1, they decided that it was not - although they seem to have been prepared to consider it if it was offered to them for a lower price. Ratings were an issue in the sense that higher ratings can allow them to charge more for ad time, increasing the profitability of a show. The more money they make from it, the more they're willing to invest.

Yup very true. It goes to that balance of Cost for the show and how much revenue they are making for the ads.

ReganX
November 4th, 2007, 06:06 AM
Yup very true. It goes to that balance of Cost for the show and how much revenue they are making for the ads.

Exactly. If you're spending $1,000,000 per episode on a show and making $900,000 per episode from it, then it would be foolish to continue with it but if you can get the same show for $800,000 per episode while still making the same amount of money from it, you might reconsider.

Briangate78
November 4th, 2007, 06:12 AM
Exactly. If you're spending $1,000,000 per episode on a show and making $900,000 per episode from it, then it would be foolish to continue with it but if you can get the same show for $800,000 per episode while still making the same amount of money from it, you might reconsider.

I bet Advertisers are paying good money for commercials during SGA's timeslots. I think that is why these key demographics are so important. Stargate has been known to attract a wide age range in both males and females.

ReganX
November 4th, 2007, 06:29 AM
I bet Advertisers are paying good money for commercials during SGA's timeslots. I think that is why these key demographics are so important. Stargate has been known to attract a wide age range in both males and females.

Yes, the demographics can be as important as the ratings themselves.

Trek_Girl42
November 4th, 2007, 09:56 AM
I'd say that in at least some of those cases, it's just human nature. Their favourite show has been cancelled and they want to be able to blame something or someone else; the ratings system, fans who have stopped watching and another show that is either taking away viewers or getting renewed.

In this case, they see another show, which they perceive as being no more - perhaps less - deserving of renewal getting another season and resent that.
All the blame is rather amusing, considering none of the other shows that get blamed are really at fault. Don't we want other shows on SCI-FI to do decently even if we don't like them? It keeps the channel afloat so that the shows we do like survive, it's a joint effort of several shows doing well, and if one gets cancelled, it gets cancelled, but that's not the fault of the other shows themselves. I was pretty appalled by the blatant bashing Eureka took when SG-1 was cancelled, I don't think Eureka was even close to a factor in that.

Same as I don't blame anything else on SCI-FI for the end of BSG (a decision that I have actually come around to agree with since the dust settled), it's my favourite show of all time, but it's not the fault of Atlantis, or Flash Gordon, or Eureka or ECW that it's ending, and all this flaming of other shows over this sort of thing is ridiculous. In many ways it's bittersweet in the fact that the end of BSG might actually help Atlantis to become SCI-FI's top billed program.

ReganX
November 4th, 2007, 10:01 AM
All the blame is rather amusing, considering none of the other shows that get blamed are really at fault.

By blaming the other shows, they are able to deflect blame from the head of their own show - it's still wonderful and perfect, it's just that the rating system is biased/the network favours Show X/Show Y is stealing all our viewers, etc.

Briangate78
November 4th, 2007, 04:36 PM
All the blame is rather amusing, considering none of the other shows that get blamed are really at fault. Don't we want other shows on SCI-FI to do decently even if we don't like them? It keeps the channel afloat so that the shows we do like survive, it's a joint effort of several shows doing well, and if one gets cancelled, it gets cancelled, but that's not the fault of the other shows themselves. I was pretty appalled by the blatant bashing Eureka took when SG-1 was cancelled, I don't think Eureka was even close to a factor in that.

Same as I don't blame anything else on SCI-FI for the end of BSG (a decision that I have actually come around to agree with since the dust settled), it's my favourite show of all time, but it's not the fault of Atlantis, or Flash Gordon, or Eureka or ECW that it's ending, and all this flaming of other shows over this sort of thing is ridiculous. In many ways it's bittersweet in the fact that the end of BSG might actually help Atlantis to become SCI-FI's top billed program.


People throw it back in my face that DVR is not a issue and it doesn't count. They know as much as I do, and yet the network and producers are making a big stink about it. I wish SGA was in a better time slot and got better "raw live" ratings. It might shut some people up. :mckay: I know people are bitter because SGA and SG-1 by next year will be the only shows on Sci-fi to have 5 seasons aired. Why? Because SG is a successful franchise and ratings are not the only way to show that.

As per Eureka, I love Eureka. I was not happy it fell to a 1.2, was shocked but it also gave hope for SGA. That 1.2 and 1.4(Finale) it got was the shockwave sent to the network.

Skydiver
November 4th, 2007, 04:53 PM
And, please check out the thread in the forum announcements area, but this thread - along with the anti s5 thread - will be closed. If you want to discuss s5, please visit the discussion thread