PDA

View Full Version : The Line (206)



GateWorld
October 15th, 2007, 05:03 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="450" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/heroes/s2/the-line/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/the-line.jpg" WIDTH="160" HEIGHT="120" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px #000000 solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">HEROES SEASON TWO</FONT>
<FONT SIZE="4"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/heroes/s2/the-line/" STYLE="text-decoration: none">THE LINE</A></FONT>
<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 206</FONT>
<IMG SRC="/images/clear.gif" WIDTH="1" HEIGHT="10" ALT="">
Bennet takes the Haitian to find his former mentor, while Claire and West decide to teach the school's head cheerleader a lesson. In feudal Japan, Hiro and Kensei attempt to rescue the Swordsmith. Suresh faces a moral dilemma after introducing Monica to the Company, and Sylar and the twins attempt a border crossing.

<FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888"><B><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/heroes/s2/the-line/">VISIT THE EPISODE GUIDE ></A></B></FONT></FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TABLE></DIV>

jds1982
October 29th, 2007, 07:19 PM
Well holy crap, finally what I would consider a big episode. Kensei's betrayel and Hiro breaking history was unexpected. I wonder if Kensei can be redeemed, or if Hiro will have to stop him and take his place in history. So I wonder if the killer virus is the Shanti virus, or Maya's virus. If it's the Shanti virus, and if its due to the experimentation of the company that it jumped to the general population, if so maybe letting New York blow up would have been better. I have a question about the scene where HRG shot Ivan. Does the gun he was using have enough power to blow Ivan back like that? I wouldn't think so, unless Ivan was tipping his chair back, he should have stayed where he was.

the fifth man
October 29th, 2007, 07:20 PM
Pretty good episode overall. Oh Hiro, looks like he played a part in turning Kensei bad. Not good.:eek: And Bennet definitely hasn't lost his coldness. And our good Dr. Suresh should sure have his hands full with his new "partner". Looks like Nikki is gone to me. Syler is still as devious as ever, and what has our boy Peter gotten himself into now?

Xicer
October 29th, 2007, 08:05 PM
Greeeeeeat episode, I loved it.

The Hiro thing really surprised me. I always assumed Kensei would "turn" but I didn't know it would be that early and that huge. I think the Maya/Alejandro/Sylar thing was a bit predictable, but entertaining nonetheless. I loved the story with HRG and Ivan. We see an even darker side to HRG now, I'm still a bit shocked at what happened. By the way, did anyone catch a good look at all the paintings? I could only make out a few (I think one was with Sylar holding a gun). The Claire story was a bit interesting but still meh. I'm starting to like Peter's story more now that he's outta Ireland. New York being evacuated definitely sounds like an interesting plot line. Looks like it may have been due to some virus outbreak (the one Mohinder was warning Bob about?). Anyway, great episode overall. I'm starting to get that season one feel back.

jds1982
October 29th, 2007, 08:14 PM
Who's Joe?

the fifth man
October 29th, 2007, 08:15 PM
Greeeeeeat episode, I loved it.

The Hiro thing really surprised me. I always assumed Kensei would "turn" but I didn't know it would be that early and that huge. I think the Maya/Alejandro/Sylar thing was a bit predictable, but entertaining nonetheless. I loved the story with HRG and Ivan. We see an even darker side to HRG now, I'm still a bit shocked at what happened. By the way, did anyone catch a good look at all the paintings? I could only make out a few (I think one was with Sylar holding a gun). The Claire story was a bit interesting but still meh. I'm starting to like Peter's story more now that he's outta Ireland. New York being evacuated definitely sounds like an interesting plot line. Looks like it may have been due to some virus outbreak (the one Mohinder was warning Joe about?). Anyway, great episode overall. I'm starting to get that season one feel back.

I think Peter's storyline will definitely get a lot more interesting now. No doubt about that. As for the evacuation, either it was a virus, or Maya made it to New York (with Sylar directing her).

Phenix
October 29th, 2007, 09:11 PM
If you take Claire out of the episode then I think it was excellent but Claire and West make me want to gag.

The Hiro-Kensei split was not that surprising. I saw it coming when Hiro finally kissed her. Now of course they have to fight. The only way Hiro can beat him is if he stops time. Maybe Hiro drops Kensei off in the future then returns to take over Kensei's identity.

Peter's story is interesting but I'm not sure if you can properly call it a story. Its more like a story board with actors.

Monica.... she better have a purpose other than just being ridiculously hot.

The Tres Amigos (Sylar, Maya, and Ajendro(?) are starting to get interesting.

O and I despise the Claire West story. If I'm not mistaken the entire team had plastic cups so it looked like they were all drinking. I hope the writers do not want me to believe that the head cheerleader drank 750 ml bottle of liquor and remained coherent. Also Claire's fall from the sky would have caused her blood to splatter on the seats. This entire scenario was ridiculous.

So in reality Claire's revenge would have had the girl expelled from school along with the rest of the cheerleading team. At least a few of them were drinking out of colored cups. Anyone who has ever been to a party knows that those are the preferred cups. So her revenge would have also hurt more girls.

There is also the blood splatter from her fall. Any fall from that height would have caused some initial bleeding before her body could recuperate. I assume the blood on her upper torso is from a bone breaking the skin. Its hard to imagine a situation where no blood would have splatter onto the surrounding surface.

This scene would have some merit if Heroes showed Claire regretted the decision other than that 15 second remark to West. I don't know, this arc with Claire is really showing the limitation of Heroes chosen format.

nekoi
October 29th, 2007, 10:21 PM
A HUGE step up from the last 4 episodes!

This episode reminded me why I liked Heroes: developing plot with a good sense of action-- why give your characters super powers if you don't want them to do something cool with them?

I really liked how each storyline was now taking a turning point and actually going somewhere. Can't wait to see what happens next week.. especially with Hiro's plot. :3

alaskannut
October 29th, 2007, 11:40 PM
Well frak me....things are starting to get intense here!

First off the bad: the ongoing Claire and West thing...what's up with that? I mean come on Claire, wake up --the guy all but has RAPIST stenciled in block letters on his forehead. And don't even get me started on their stunt tonight...:mad:


Now the good, and oh how good it is:D

- Mohinder telling off Bob and trying to destroy the virus.
- Bob showing a kinder, gentler side of the Companyw/ Mon9ica at the end...wonder how long that will last;)
- the Sylar/Alejandro/Maya trio....we are so very frakked:eek:
- Peter and Caitlin are not only not in Ireland anymore...but they're not even in Kansas. I likes.
- The Takezo and Hiro falling out--freakin' epic stuff there!
And how about the promo for next week:eek:


Also, does anyone else have a bad feeling that Adam = the Nightmare Man?

MarshAngel
October 30th, 2007, 08:38 AM
O and I despise the Claire West story. If I'm not mistaken the entire team had plastic cups so it looked like they were all drinking. I hope the writers do not want me to believe that the head cheerleader drank 750 ml bottle of liquor and remained coherent. Also Claire's fall from the sky would have caused her blood to splatter on the seats. This entire scenario was ridiculous.


It may have been ridiculous but not too far fetched. We saw none of the other cheerleaders actually drink form their cup. Debbie may have poured but it didn't look like they were drinking much. We also don't know what she was drinking and how much of it she drank. The two or three swigs she took on screen aren't exactly going to make her pass out right then. Also, Claire was wearing a full track suit, probably because she knew she'd be bleeding. She wasn't dropped on her head so there shouldn't be much, if any evidence to clean up.

That being said, there was a bit more progression this episode which was really nice. West seems to think his power makes him better than lesser humans....so I can continue to hate him comfortably.
Maya should have been eaten by a coyote in the desert...naive dimwit.

Hypochondriac
October 30th, 2007, 08:45 AM
Nice episode, Could have done without the West/Claire storyline. A person falls from that height get's their chest pierced by their ribs and there is no blood splatter :mckay:

A general evacuation of NYC, interesting, I guessing it was one they experimented on, and it jumped into the general population.

A virus that inhibits powers, Looks like Syler was patient 0 which is why he lost his powers.

drake122
October 30th, 2007, 12:37 PM
I liked this episode very much! All story lines were good, especially the kensei/hiro parts.

Nikki looked like she has been brainwashed though... :S

Xicer
October 30th, 2007, 12:53 PM
Who's Joe?

lol sorry, I meant Bob.

Phenix
October 30th, 2007, 12:58 PM
It may have been ridiculous but not too far fetched. We saw none of the other cheerleaders actually drink form their cup. Debbie may have poured but it didn't look like they were drinking much. We also don't know what she was drinking and how much of it she drank. The two or three swigs she took on screen aren't exactly going to make her pass out right then. Also, Claire was wearing a full track suit, probably because she knew she'd be bleeding. She wasn't dropped on her head so there shouldn't be much, if any evidence to clean up.

That being said, there was a bit more progression this episode which was really nice. West seems to think his power makes him better than lesser humans....so I can continue to hate him comfortably.
Maya should have been eaten by a coyote in the desert...naive dimwit.

Claire has gone from a character I like to a character I completely loathe. Her entire teen angst nonsense is just plain ridiculous. The revenge plot versus the head cheerleader was completely over the top. I assume Claire had no idea that the cheerleaders were drinking or at least having drinks poured for them. I understand your approach to the drinking in the scene but I personally do not buy into it.

So about the drinking. The director felt the need to reveal a 750 mL bottle of some sort of liquor. I assume its some sort of 80 proof liquor. The 750 mL bottle contained ~20 shots. Revealing the bottle while showing a drunk cheerleading captain tells me that she has either drank all the liquor or the team has helped her consume some of it. Since it is on school grounds and they are underage the police would have any right to breathalyze the lot. Of course they could have just smelled the other cheerleaders drinks to put two and two together.

I also never mentioned the hazing aspect of the scene.

Overall the scene demonstrates Heroes' inherent weakness as a television show. Heroes relies on a story board to tell the tale instead of developing a plot based on dialog and exposition.

Imagine if you are new to Heroes. You sit to watch the show and now that you are 6 episodes in the plot has finally started to thicken.

MmmmMcKAy
October 30th, 2007, 04:12 PM
Not a bad episode. At least we had some pretty momentous things happen.

The whole HRG in the Ukraine was the best part. He's still brutal to say the least and I'll admit that I was shocked when he shot that guy.

Kensai betraying Hiro and the girl(forget her name) creates a whole set of problems for Hiro.

I'm glad that Mohinder took a stand re the virus and Monica. Won't he have lots of fun with Niki/Jessica(more Jessica going by her attitude).

Loved when Sylar told Alejandro all about his evil plans. Whatcha gonna do now, Alejandro? ;)

I agree with you all that the whole Claire/West/cheerleader story was stupid. West needs to fly into a brick wall.

Who is this Adam guy that Bob is concerned about and who left a note for Peter in Montreal?

So instead of New York blowing up, this season we have New York decimated by the virus.

P-90_177
October 30th, 2007, 04:17 PM
I still wasn't blown away by this episode but i'm glad that things are starting to move on a bit on all counts. I am a bit sad about kensei though. I really do like him and he was becoming quite the hero.

s09119
October 30th, 2007, 04:29 PM
I still wasn't blown away by this episode but i'm glad that things are starting to move on a bit on all counts. I am a bit sad about kensei though. I really do like him and he was becoming quite the hero.

Interesting how as Heri becomes more heroic, Kensei does as well. And the moment Hiro turns his back on his heroic values and morals, Kensei does, too...

Maybe they're linked.

P-90_177
October 30th, 2007, 04:39 PM
I thought the exact same thing. I just want to know how hiro will repair the timeline. Obviously since prset day remains the same it must be repaired. However that may be. The obvious thing would be if hiro becomes kensei but hopefully it will be something a little less cliche.

s09119
October 30th, 2007, 04:52 PM
I thought the exact same thing. I just want to know how hiro will repair the timeline. Obviously since prset day remains the same it must be repaired. However that may be. The obvious thing would be if hiro becomes kensei but hopefully it will be something a little less cliche.

I think the writers keep ignoring the obvious solution; Hiro travels back to BEFORE they attack White Beard's camp, tells himself not to drag Yaeko away, and instead just freeze time and move her out of harm's way.

This way, everyone would be happy and free, problem solved. But that would probably be too easy, and we know that Kensei and Hiro end up deuling from Isacc's painting.

LoneStar1836
October 30th, 2007, 07:03 PM
The story is finally getting good.

I agree that the Claire/West story is getting annoying.




I have a question about the scene where HRG shot Ivan. Does the gun he was using have enough power to blow Ivan back like that? I wouldn't think so, unless Ivan was tipping his chair back, he should have stayed where he was.That's a Hollywood invention. Firearms alone don't knock people back like that when shot.

Phenix
October 30th, 2007, 09:22 PM
The story is finally getting good.

I agree that the Claire/West story is getting annoying.



That's a Hollywood invention. Firearms alone don't knock people back like that when shot.

A large enough caliber will move a person backwards. I don't know what calibers are needed but a major complaint about recent US DU bullets is that the bullets are too heavy and pass through the body. Once the bullets pass through the body the people continue to move towards the commandos. This was a major problem in the Mogidishu catastrophe.

I doubt that HRGs gun was capable of moving a sitting man backwards. I'm not all that sure if any gun can move a seated man backwards or knock over the chair. However falling backwards due to the impact while standing is possible.

Wyrminarrd
October 31st, 2007, 03:23 AM
First of I´d like to throw my voice in with those complaining about the Claire/West storyline, it´s by far the worst one this season and is in fact so bad that I actually wish that Syler had managed to cut her brain out last season.

The only way that Hiro´s storyline can tie into the other heroes is if Kenzei is in fact Adam Monroe and/or the guy killing the company founders. This storyline is interesting but hopefully Hiro will return to the present soon (next 2-3 episodes).

It´s a bit lame that it´s always New York that gets screwed over in this show, you´d think that Houston or Detroid or some other city would also get targeted ;) Then again perhaps they´ve all been evacuated but we only saw New York because Peter´s from there.

HRG is his usual cold self and remains as interesting as ever. As for whether or not the guy he shoot should have fallen back like that I´d say no if the guy was just sitting there but it is possible that he tried to flip over the chair as he was shot.

The virus has got to be the Shanti virus, it just doesn´t feel right that Mayas power would turn out to be contagious. Perhaps her power reacts to some other power of Sylers when he finally kills her and takes it for himself causing it to mutate...?

Syler is being his usual great self, he´s the best villian I´ve seen in a television series in a long time. Maya I don´t like at all, her brother was right when he said she had become a killer when she used her power like that and that makes her a completely unsympathetic character for me. You can´t justify killing people like that just because you have some vague hope for a cure. Truthfully if I had her power I would either A) Go life in a cave somewhere or B) Put a bullit through my head.

Nikki definatly seems to be gone and all indications are that Jessica is the one calling the shots now.

LoneStar1836
October 31st, 2007, 09:29 AM
A large enough caliber will move a person backwards. I don't know what calibers are needed but a major complaint about recent US DU bullets is that the bullets are too heavy and pass through the body. Once the bullets pass through the body the people continue to move towards the commandos. This was a major problem in the Mogidishu catastrophe.

I doubt that HRGs gun was capable of moving a sitting man backwards. I'm not all that sure if any gun can move a seated man backwards or knock over the chair. However falling backwards due to the impact while standing is possible.A large enough caliber may move a stationary, standing person backwards slightly, but it's not going to throw them backward like Hollywood portrays...not even with a shotgun.


It´s a bit lame that it´s always New York that gets screwed over in this show, you´d think that Houston or Detroid or some other city would also get targeted ;) Then again perhaps they´ve all been evacuated but we only saw New York because Peter´s from there.Leave Houston out of it. :P Especially after their absurd portrayal of how their version of the Minute Men operate along the border....

Since Sylar is head for NY and Mohinder and company are there, I'm guessing one of them is involved in what happens, so NYC is the likely origin of the outbreak. Though perhaps by the point and time Peter jumps to, it may have spread elsewhere. Hopefully, we'll get more info in next week's episode.



The virus has got to be the Shanti virus, it just doesn´t feel right that Mayas power would turn out to be contagious. Perhaps her power reacts to some other power of Sylers when he finally kills her and takes it for himself causing it to mutate...?That's what I'm thinking it is after what Mohinder said but then again it might be Sylar. At least the story has moved along in that regards by revealing the possible future.

:)

Hypochondriac
October 31st, 2007, 10:23 AM
I betting the virus is in sylar. That's why he can't use his powers. They tested it on sylar first

eri-chan
October 31st, 2007, 12:24 PM
i agree with the sylar virus thing. well thats the thought going through my head atm.

ahh heroes is still predictable as ever. i knew hiro would get the girl and turn kensei bad. and my 'sylar and the wonder twins' prediction seems to be coming along too.

i somehow dont think that kensei is adam... although i did think that the house peter and caitlin visited was kensei's. at the same time... we still dont know kensei's real name right?

anyway yayyyy finally things are heating up. i missed that about heroes in the first 5 eps. hmm there were 7 paintings there and one we couldnt see properly but had a biohazard sign on a drum. what was the first one we saw? we did see a painting before we saw noah's one right? i've kinda forgotten now. anyway screenshot in spoiler tags
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/filogrrl/vlcsnap-88385.png

i wonder if peter's ever going to remember at this rate. or will he have to re-learn everything? i wonder what kensei and hiro have to do with the storyline... maybe something epic is going to happen because hiro broke japanese history.

LoneStar1836
October 31st, 2007, 12:43 PM
anyway yayyyy finally things are heating up. i missed that about heroes in the first 5 eps. hmm there were 7 paintings there and one we couldnt see properly but had a biohazard sign on a drum. what was the first one we saw? we did see a painting before we saw noah's one right? i've kinda forgotten now.
The death of Hiro's father.

Thanks for the screen cap. :)

eri-chan
October 31st, 2007, 06:05 PM
oh yeah! thanks for that :)

Night Marshal
November 1st, 2007, 03:46 AM
I honestly think that the Claire/West storyline is a lot more going on than what we see. I have faith in the writers that they know what they what there doing, and it all honesty I didn't much care for Claire in first half of the last season but after she meet peter here character became a lot more interesting.

As for Adam my feeling about him is that he's a character we haven't met yet if they want to really surprise us they much have some things hidden. Because right now it looks very predictable couch syler was infected my the company he infects new york.

And for hiro if you remember for the last season there is story about kensei, hiro says that the dragon taught kensei and they later the Dragon came and demanded the priestess, then kensei stabs himself and gives the dragon his heart and says that that is where his love is.

in "the line" kensei says, you taught me no blade could hurt me but you hurt me deeper than any wound. SO all that said hiro is the dragon and I think kensei will back stab whitebeard, and become himself the hero

pbellosom
November 1st, 2007, 04:49 AM
Well there goes my theory that Maya would actually be able to turn Sylar into a good person. I wasn't actually that keen on this episode, I liked HRG's bit but the apart from that it only really got good when the cliffhangers began being set up one by one. That is so not Niki who's with Mohinder. I reckon that Adam is Kensei his appartment seems to be decorated with lots of old Japanese stuff.



The virus has got to be the Shanti virus, it just doesn´t feel right that Mayas power would turn out to be contagious. Perhaps her power reacts to some other power of Sylers when he finally kills her and takes it for himself causing it to mutate...?


I dunno, my current take on it is that Maya arrives in NY and does her bleedy eyes thing on a massive scale. People keep being found dead with black gunk (has it actually been confirmed as blood) leaking out their eyes the authorities are definately going to assume its some sort of virus.

Edit: Whoops, forget to mention my views on Claire/West. I reckon we're supposed to not like West. The whole thing about Claire not really feeling guilty for getting a girl suspended is designed to make us feel that he's a bad influence, before West cam along Claire would never have agreed to that.

eri-chan
November 1st, 2007, 06:54 AM
hmm i couldn't care less about debbie being suspended. she was drinking on school grounds and thats not on at any high school. but yeah west is a bad influence on her.

i'm still hoping maya can turn sylar good. if sylar turns out to have his powers taken from him via a certain virus, then what's to say he wont turn for the better? he doesn't feel special at all atm. maybe going good might make him feel special.

Phantom Limb
November 2nd, 2007, 12:38 PM
so substitute the word bomb for the word virus and now we have a brand spanking new story? oh dear.

i dont know why but most of the characters are really getting on my nerves this season, especially the new ones they arent written very well a bit too unsympathetic for my liking and i agree with some comments that ive seen that none of the heroes are being.....heroes, claire and wests use of their powers was infantile and self agrandising just no good at all.
i get that they're teenagers but unfortunately we've seen claires character 20+ eps last season and that just didnt fit.

HRG always good though even if he seems to have a miniature cannon for a gun and sylars speech to maya's brother was great he is a fantastic villain but i still wish the writers had, had some balls and killed him off last season or anyone important (parkmans recovery especially dubious).

oh and shock horror, kensei turned!! no way !! get outta here!!! exclamation marks!!!!! so kensei is a villain and sylar is a villain and matts dad is a villain and adam monroe is a villain, but no one is being a hero!!!
quit whining (and having amnesia) and get on with it!

Trek_Girl42
November 2nd, 2007, 05:13 PM
West needs to either die, or become completely evil soon. Very soon. Cause wow, what he's doing to Claire.....not cool. How stupid can you get? Get a student suspended just so you can get on a cheerleading squad, just so you can lie to your dad and go out with flying stalker boy?

West has the art of manipulation down pat.


Otherwise, excellent episode. The season is picking up, the Peter story was much better, still enjoying the Hiro story, missed Matt, and HRG was continually awesome- he'd better not die! :S

Dusk
November 2nd, 2007, 10:27 PM
This is getting a tad boring, and now I think all those people who bagged out 'Lost' for being stagnant and praising 'Heroes' for rapid, exciting plot developments need to bite their tongues, because the first six episodes of this season have been half-hearted, meager, and sluggish. I cannot think of a single character thread that I'm enjoying at the moment, everybody is lost and actual developments of major consequence aren't happening.

Two or three episodes of this oly would be fine, but six!? Things need to improve right now, as in last week!

LoneStar1836
November 3rd, 2007, 08:20 AM
West needs to either die, or become completely evil soon. Very soon. Cause wow, what he's doing to Claire.....not cool. How stupid can you get? Get a student suspended just so you can get on a cheerleading squad, just so you can lie to your dad and go out with flying stalker boy?

West has the art of manipulation down pat.


Otherwise, excellent episode. The season is picking up, the Peter story was much better, still enjoying the Hiro story, missed Matt, and HRG was continually awesome- he'd better not die! :S

I'm wondering, based on the painting of HRG death, if it isn't West that ends up killing him. Not that I want that painting to come true...as HRG is one of my favorite characters.

So West disappearing works for me...the sooner the better.

Night Marshal
November 3rd, 2007, 08:31 AM
If you look at so many of these shows that live around a full season arc is that the first season if often the best. Just look at how good the first year of BSG was and how crappy its been since at least compared to great first year. I'm I don't agree that its bad but I do think some of the edge that was there in the first year is gone.

As for Claire and West how many women have you known to stay with a women that everyone around them knows is bad. And no matter how many times you try to help them tell them this is bad they stay with the guy. I bet you that this is what the writers are going for. It's hard to watch it even painful knowing they are doing something that is wrong but women in these cases has to learn for themselves.

Matt G
May 29th, 2008, 03:53 PM
1. Nice one Mohinder, let's see how long this lasts! What Nikki/Jessica's gameplan is I don't know!

2. Claire-West. Meh. Could get interesting next week though.

3. Hiro that was not a good idea mate.

4. OK, Peter's gone time-travelling, but how the hell is he going to get back?

OK, very interesting.

Major Clanger
May 31st, 2008, 07:50 AM
*zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

I am so glad Peter is out of Ireland, if only he'd ditched the annoying Irish girl with the grating voice.

Claire - "stalker" and "rapist" give me a break. The boy is lonely, and of course he wants to make Claire spend time with him. The most far-fetched thing is the whole car story. Why isn't that a bigger deal? I would have grounded her for ever for that.

Hiro - my pet theory is that, as we know, time is circular (wibley wobley?) and so I think Hiro is Kensei. He has to go back in time to do (he thinks) what Kensei did. But I think that he is the hero. (maybe he'll kill annoying English guy and take over the persona?) and therefore never come back to the present. Although, he did appear in full warrior kit in S1 and mention he was from the future so who knows.

Basically it's getting very flat. Cute New Orleans girl is only marginally less barfworthy than the twitty twins.

I'm going to stop watching if it doesn't pick up soon.

SgaIsBad
September 5th, 2008, 09:32 AM
I really enjoy the Claire/West story.

garhkal
November 30th, 2015, 11:15 PM
Well holy crap, finally what I would consider a big episode. Kensei's betrayel and Hiro breaking history was unexpected. I wonder if Kensei can be redeemed, or if Hiro will have to stop him and take his place in history. So I wonder if the killer virus is the Shanti virus, or Maya's virus. If it's the Shanti virus, and if its due to the experimentation of the company that it jumped to the general population, if so maybe letting New York blow up would have been better. I have a question about the scene where HRG shot Ivan. Does the gun he was using have enough power to blow Ivan back like that? I wouldn't think so, unless Ivan was tipping his chair back, he should have stayed where he was.

It is the Shanti one.. Named for Mohinder's dead sister iirc.


By the way, did anyone catch a good look at all the paintings?

Unfortunately, no.. BUT i would love it if there was a site out there which showed all 8 in order...


O and I despise the Claire West story. If I'm not mistaken the entire team had plastic cups so it looked like they were all drinking. I hope the writers do not want me to believe that the head cheerleader drank 750 ml bottle of liquor and remained coherent. Also Claire's fall from the sky would have caused her blood to splatter on the seats. This entire scenario was ridiculous.

So in reality Claire's revenge would have had the girl expelled from school along with the rest of the cheerleading team. At least a few of them were drinking out of colored cups. Anyone who has ever been to a party knows that those are the preferred cups. So her revenge would have also hurt more girls.


If nothing else, there should have been more of an investigation into what the head chearleader's claims of a body dump/drop, maybe some CSI people out there scouring the scene..

AND yes it should have had more repercussions for the other gals since they were also drinking.



- Mohinder telling off Bob and trying to destroy the virus.
- Bob showing a kinder, gentler side of the Companyw/ Mon9ica at the end...wonder how long that will last;)
- the Sylar/Alejandro/Maya trio....we are so very frakked:eek:/quote]

Unsure. BUT i was fearing that Bob might have had his daughter come in and 're-educate' him...

[QUOTE=MarshAngel;7277406]West seems to think his power makes him better than lesser humans....so I can continue to hate him comfortably.

This ep is the first one i actually hated what West did.. Even Clair showed she was 'did we really have to go that far'??


Not a bad episode. At least we had some pretty momentous things happen.

The whole HRG in the Ukraine was the best part. He's still brutal to say the least and I'll admit that I was shocked when he shot that guy.

I was more shocked at the extent he went to with the mind erasing..



Syler is being his usual great self, he´s the best villian I´ve seen in a television series in a long time. Maya I don´t like at all, her brother was right when he said she had become a killer when she used her power like that and that makes her a completely unsympathetic character for me. You can´t justify killing people like that just because you have some vague hope for a cure. Truthfully if I had her power I would either A) Go life in a cave somewhere or B) Put a bullit through my head.

SHe did lose some major sympathy points with me, for turning her back on her brother to go with gabriel.


hmm i couldn't care less about debbie being suspended. she was drinking on school grounds and thats not on at any high school. but yeah west is a bad influence on her.

i'm still hoping maya can turn sylar good. if sylar turns out to have his powers taken from him via a certain virus, then what's to say he wont turn for the better? he doesn't feel special at all atm. maybe going good might make him feel special.

Powerless or not, he is imo a psycho..



4. OK, Peter's gone time-travelling, but how the hell is he going to get back?

I am just wondering when he copied it??