All Aurora-Class Ships vs 1 System Lords Ship

[SoulReaver]

not for the faint-hearted

[Ltcolshepjumper]

the purpose of this thread is what again? and what type of "System Lord's ship" are we referring to?

[Lord of Nightmares]

Well, if it was Anubis's mothership equipped with all 6 Eyes and they managed to fire off the first shot with the main beam weapon right at the centre of the fleet, then they still have a chance at winning, or at least inflicting heavy casualties. Otherwise, it's going to be an extremely short fight, even with the 'lightning' weapon.

Truth be told though, we don't really know how many Aurora-class ships the Ancients had in total, I've seen a figure as low as nine (yeah, you read that right) all the way up to several thousand, the latter figure which is really weird since they should've been able to easily trounce the Wraith.

[SoulReaver]

the purpose of this thread is what again?

go figure :/

and what type of "System Lord's ship" are we referring to?

does it really matter ? if it's a simple hatak at least they'll suffer a bit less, but let's say it's anubis' mothership since it's been mentioned


for anubis' ship to stand the slightest chance (of lasting more than 10 seconds) his lightning gun would have to be able to make 1-shot kills, in other words bypass or punch through ancient-grade shields then same way it bypassed goa'uld shields - that's doubtful, but even if that's the case then he'd still have to dodge ancients drones & beams (the latter are very likely to punch through goa'uld shields the same way ori beams did), the beams he might be able to avoid through some miracle, drones on the other hand...somehow I doubt that ship of his is more maneuverable than drones hehe...

[SmallTimePerson]

Except Anubis was not a system lord when the Anubis mothership was first introduced with the 6 eyes.

[Lord of Nightmares]

^

Actually, the System Lords had already voted to allow him back into their ranks around the time of 'Summit' and 'Last Stand' in S5.

[SmallTimePerson]

^

Actually, the System Lords had already voted to reaccept him back into their ranks around the time of 'Summit' and 'Last Stand' in S5.

But he didn't have his super mothership with the 6 eyes onboard at that time.
When he did get 5 of the eyes Lord Yu had already led the system lord fleet into battle with Anubis .

[SoulReaver]

But he didn't have his super mothership with the 6 eyes onboard at that time.

also, no goa'uld ship has ever been in battle with an ancient ship let alone with all aurora-class ancient ships

but heck a little more hypothesizing won't hurt now, will it :|

[Lord of Nightmares]

I really can't quite follow what you're trying to say. Your original post stated that Anubis was not a System Lord when his mothership was introduced in 'Full Circle', even though I already stated that the System Lords had almost unanimously voted to welcome him back amongst their ranks more than a season back in 'Summit' and 'Full Circle'.

And now you're trying to claim that Anubis never had his mothership when he was first mentioned in 'Summit', even though that's beside the point since the topic creator never specified any timeframes on the System Lords.

If you're trying to go by how the System Lords attacked Anubis's mothership over Abydos however, that was due to Yu convincing them to do so, since they assumed that he was vulnerable at the time since he only appeared to have that one ship without any escorts. And it never indicated in any way that the System Lords had booted him back out of their ranks since that was never mentioned even once, and it was common for infighting and backstabbing to occur amongst them in any case.

[Lord batchi ball]

But he didn't have his super mothership with the 6 eyes onboard at that time.
When he did get 5 of the eyes Lord Yu had already led the system lord fleet into battle with Anubis .

Yes Yu led the fleet of System Lords ships but Anubis was a system lord.

Anubis was the Lord over multiple solar systems so I would call him a System Lord.

What Yu led was a fleet of ships that was a way for weaker system lords to have a chance to defeat a very powerfull system lord. The league of system lords is not all the system lords some may choose not to take part if they will not be helped by the defeat of anther system lord or if thier forces will be better used else where.

[SmallTimePerson]

I really can't quite follow what you're trying to say. Your original post stated that Anubis was not a System Lord when his mothership was introduced in 'Full Circle', even though I already stated that the System Lords had almost unanimously voted to welcome him back amongst their ranks more than a season back in 'Summit' and 'Full Circle'.

I am not saying it didn't exisit, what I am saying is that it didn't have all the eyes in it whilst he was a system lord (which was the major advantage of his ship over the system lord fleet).

In revelations (season 5) (before full circle (season 6) which is the episode Anubis tries to get the 6th eye) it is revealed that Yu is fighting Anubis's alliance . Revelations might be Yu acting alone, but for Full circle it is almost definitely the System Lord collective (as Ba'al agrees in a couple of episodes to lead the system lord's fleet in place of Yu).

[fugiman]

I think the ha'tak would win

But really this would be a horrible fight as the Aurora-Class Ships would kill the Ha'tak

[Lord of Nightmares]

I am not saying it didn't exisit, what I am saying is that it didn't have all the eyes in it whilst he was a system lord (which was the major advantage of his ship over the system lord fleet).

In revelations (season 5) (before full circle (season 6) which is the episode Anubis tries to get the 6th eye) it is revealed that Yu is fighting Anubis's alliance . Revelations might be Yu acting alone, but for Full circle it is almost definitely the System Lord collective (as Ba'al agrees in a couple of episodes to lead the system lord's fleet in place of Yu).

And as I already mentioned, although Yu did convince the System Lords to try and take Anubis out of the picture in 'Full Circle', there was never any indication nor even mention whatsoever that they had stripped him of his rank as System Lord. Infighting amongst System Lords, including them forming alliances to gang up against another were incredibly common in their society.

And heck, he was still considered a System Lord in his own right even if they didn't grant him the title at any rate, considering the fact that he was mowing through his opposition and controlled more assets by that time compared to nearly all of the other System Lords, with the possible exception of Yu.

[ascendedancient42]

If a puddle jumper can defeat a Ha'tak with relative ease, then the System Lords are completely screwed if they have to face an entire fleet of Ancient warships. I don't care what the numbers are; even one-on-one, they're hosed.

[2ndgenerationalteran]

isn't this quite pointless...

Spoiler:

the gould would win