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September 26th, 2007, 06:22 PM
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After Angela Petrelli confesses to a murder she didn't commit, Parkman pushes to continue his investigation -- and makes a startling discovery about his own father. Micah's cousin Monica struggles to support her family in New Orleans, and Maya and Alejandro pick up a dangerous passenger.

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Phenix
October 15th, 2007, 07:09 PM
So Sylar manages to survive a 3 day walk before recuperating from major surgery and wounds. He also managed this feat with an open wound. And while walking he manages to fully heal and can now steal powers again. Am I the only person who noticed that his M.O. has changed? He suddenly goes for the base of the skull where as he used to just cut the top of the skull off. This entire scenario wreaks of lazy writing.

The new girl, I didn't catch her name, is lame as well. Her power is cool and she will hopefully serve some sort of purpose in the end. Or is this just to connect with Micah's power. It does make sense that they all fit together.

Is anyone else getting the feeling that everyone is related by blood?

O and Claire. I have nothing good to say about her so I'll stay silent for now.

Molly's scene was great. I guess Matt can not project thoughts into people.

The previews for next week.... Peter got the lighting like power from the new character. She is also meant to find him and I guess return him to the company. I doubt he is the killer though. There is no way for him to know that everyone in that photo is connected. Only a member of the inner circle will know that information.

Xicer
October 15th, 2007, 07:09 PM
Definitely a step up from last week's episode I think, though the whole thing with West and Claire still bothers me. Looks like we have a new hero too! Oh, and Sylar meeting up with Maya and Alejandro, I think that just made their storyline much more interesting. Wow, Papa Parkman is the Boogeyman? Never expected that. No Hiro in this episode, oh well...

Looks like next week's will deal a lot with Peter, we'll see how that'll turn out.

Lady Snow
October 15th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Well, I'm disappointed Sylar wasn't still in an illusion, but I'm quite happy he's calling himself Gabriel Grey again. :) Finally the "Maya 'n Alejandro tale o' woe and doom and separation anxiety" picks up some steam.

West is still a pain in the mikta.

Nathan shaved! *does a happy dance* I'm not surprised by Mama Petrelli's confession, and I liked the inside-the-head interaction with Matt. Speaking of Matt, dude, his dad! An original hero! That's pretty awesome. I'm not entirely sure what to make of his (Grunberg Senior, that is) possession of Molly; I hope it goes somewhere.

Monica = awesome. I like her, I appreciate her situation, and I'm intrigued by everything going on, including her power. Micah has the potential to be even better when guided by her. And Uhura, though limited again, is still quite the presence - gotta love that. :)

Phenix
October 15th, 2007, 07:28 PM
Well, I'm disappointed Sylar wasn't still in an illusion, but I'm quite happy he's calling himself Gabriel Grey again. :) Finally the "Maya 'n Alejandro tale o' woe and doom and separation anxiety" picks up some steam.

Snow, you need to watch the end of the episode again. Sylar is back with a vengeance. The ticking sound before he killed Derek indicated that his power was back and that Derek was 'special'. I hope he doesn't try to kill them both.

the fifth man
October 15th, 2007, 07:30 PM
Definitely a very good episode tonight. I swear, I just can't get enough of Sylar. He's so bad, he's good.;) It's going to make for good stuff now that he's hooked up with Maya and her brother.

As for the revelation about the "Boogeyman", WOW!! I definitely didn't see that one coming.

ShadowMaat
October 15th, 2007, 08:08 PM
I am VERY disappointed that Sylar really did kill Illusion Girl and is back to his usual tricks. Very disappointed.

Claire's storyline continues to bore me, as it did last season, but now with added squick thanks to her creepy flying boyfriend.

I'd like to get a closer look at that group picture. And given the whole "Mrs. Petrelli tried to attack/kill herself" lie, it makes me wonder if "Mr. Petrelli killed himself" might not have the same lie at its source.

I love Monica. I hope she'll get to play a more central part in things... and that it won't be in a tragic sort of way.

Thank the merciful gods that Nathan finally shaved and likewise thank you for sparing us from another dreadful chapter in the life of McPeter.

Interesting reveal about Matt's daddy. I hope Molly's gonna be okay.

Iguana775
October 15th, 2007, 08:08 PM
Am I the only one getting tired of Sylar? Same ol', same ol' from him. and how in the world did he get on that road?

The rest of the show was good though. The new hero is cool.

So, I guess Micha can sense what people are thinking since he could tell what was bothering the new girl by just putting his hand on her back? It's not really that far fetched. the brain is just a big computer. maybe he can interact with the electrical impulses of the brain/nervous system.

ShadowMaat
October 15th, 2007, 08:19 PM
Am I the only one getting tired of Sylar? Same ol', same ol' from him. and how in the world did he get on that road?
No, you're not the only one. :rolleyes: Might be marginally more interesting if he had experienced some massive change of heart that made him into a good guy... of sorts. It'd be a bit cliched, but it'd be better than having him pursue the same tired path he did last season.

BTW, someone really needs to get him a "Superstar!" hat, especially now that he has the ability to look like anyone he wants... just like Eddie van Blundht on X-Files. ;)


So, I guess Micah can sense what people are thinking since he could tell what was bothering the new girl by just putting his hand on her back? It's not really that far fetched. the brain is just a big computer. maybe he can interact with the electrical impulses of the brain/nervous system.
Kind of a creepy thought, isn't it?

Iguana775
October 15th, 2007, 08:23 PM
No, you're not the only one. :rolleyes: Might be marginally more interesting if he had experienced some massive change of heart that made him into a good guy... of sorts. It'd be a bit cliched, but it'd be better than having him pursue the same tired path he did last season.

BTW, someone really needs to get him a "Superstar!" hat, especially now that he has the ability to look like anyone he wants... just like Eddie van Blundht on X-Files. ;)


Kind of a creepy thought, isn't it?

Maybe Sylar will help in defeating the new baddy.....:S

So far, this season isnt quite as good as last. Hopefully it picks up a lot. I loved the new hero (Monica?) and her story line though. The twist with Parkman is intersting too.

Darren
October 15th, 2007, 08:33 PM
Sylar is calling himself "Gabriel Gray" because he has lost his powers, so he doesn't feel like Sylar anymore -- he doesn't feel "special." But I don't think he's gotten them back yet, and I don't think that Derek had a power. It seems to me that he just killed him to shut him up and give him an opportunity to manipulate the kids.

Nathan apparently has some sort of restraining order against him. Sad.

Matt's child is apparently really the b****rd child of Janice's affair with the scumbag cop. Very sad, and no doubt the straw that broke their marriage. But I wonder ... who suggested they do a DNA test? Or did Janice know all along?

West was only slightly less annoying this week. But still childish, needy, self-involved, and stalkerish.

Monica's ability is interesting. Uhura is a non-character. And Monica's little brother is such an ***hole that I may change the channel the next time I see him. I'm not really interested in bully characters like that.

ShadowMaat
October 15th, 2007, 08:33 PM
Yeah, the thrill of the new season is starting to wear off. Hopefully things will gear up soon. And PLEASE do something interesting with Sylar.

I hope Kristen Bell's character is a good one, too. And that she isn't just a badass version of Veronica Mars.

Oh, and West reminds me of some kind of loserish budget version of Clark Kent, circa Smallville.

Trek_Girl42
October 15th, 2007, 10:48 PM
Oh, and West reminds me of some kind of loserish budget version of Clark Kent, circa Smallville.
There you go.....I can't stand Smallville, and yes, West is like someone who would be on that show and would be considered oh-so-romantic and perfect guy blah blah, but really, it's just creepy, stalkerish, and annoying. And it makes the women look like idiots. West went from bad to worse. Why do I think he's coerced other girls? The guy just says all the wrong things, the way he convinces Claire to trust him.....just so completely wrong. *sigh* I like Claire, and I want her to get a clue quick. HRG better find out about this deception sooner rather than later. :rolleyes:

I still miss Zach. :(

Am I the only one who noticed that big fat cockroach when we saw whats-his-name after Syler killed him?

Great twist on Matt's father being "the bogeyman", can't wait to see where this goes. I love this company/generations/whatever it is storyline.

Missed Hiro/Ando/Kensei this week, missed the Peter we like, didn't miss the Irish mob, didn't miss Niki. And taking powers/talents that you see on tv? Wow. That just might be the best power yet. (if that is indeed how it works)

And Kristen Bell next week! I am sooo excited! :D

Lady Snow
October 16th, 2007, 03:50 AM
Am I the only one who noticed that big fat cockroach when we saw whats-his-name after Syler killed him?


Nope. That was definitely an "Ooh, interesting..." moment for me.

NationOfJoe
October 16th, 2007, 04:28 AM
sylar does not have his powers back yet, his power was not a ticking sound. if he had his powers back his watch would be fixed and would be going by the name sylar. like Darren said he just doesn't feel special anymore.

clair is suddenly going no where, i care more about hiro then clair these days i would rather see whats happening with him.

i have a loosly baised theory about nathans burned mirror friend, maybe niki's alter ego made a jump and is now in nathan. maybe the alterego wasn't a fractured mind but an actual hero that lives inside people heads like that?

i still can't wait to see what nathans mum's power is.

Thermonuclearboy
October 16th, 2007, 06:09 AM
i have a loosly baised theory about nathans burned mirror friend, maybe niki's alter ego made a jump and is now in nathan. maybe the alterego wasn't a fractured mind but an actual hero that lives inside people heads like that?

i still can't wait to see what nathans mum's power is.

My theory is that Nathan really was horribly burned by the explosion, and someone else with the power to create illusions is making him look whole and unharmed.

Hey, maybe THAT's what Mama Petrelli's power is. Keeping up appearances; makes perfect sense.

And as for Sylar, he hasn't got his powers back yet, which is why he's bashing people's heads in with bricks now. As to whether he'll get back the powers he stole or has to start all over again remains to be seen.

Phantom Limb
October 16th, 2007, 07:00 AM
well that was a lot better than last weeks installment and i'm glad we didn't have a Peter or Hiro story this week it makes a nice change.

Sylar joining the twins made their story infinitely more interesting, i know he doesn't seem to have his powers but last week when he was in the bunker just before he killed candice they put an effect on his voice, is that some other power he had or just to show evilness?

Parkman's dad is the big bad? hmmm not too sure about that one, but only because i really want it to turn out that Kensei is the main villain of the piece.
oh and i thoroughly expect Hiro to shout "im going back to the future!" whilst pointing just past the camera at some point.
also Kensei is English how is he not going to turn out to be the Ernst Stavro Blowfeld of the heroes world?(i know Blowfeld isn't English i mean he'll be like him in the chair turning, hollowed out volcano lair, pussy stroking, hank scorpio way) English guys are always the villain in things like this.

Micah's cousins power looks to be very useful especially when she learns to use it properly, uhuru still hasn't really done anything and Micah's other cousin can make like a tree and get out of here for all i care, but im still waiting for them to introduce a character whose sole power is to bend spoons or heat things to gas mark five, they cant all be here to save the world! if it is evolution that triggers it there should be some useless powers, the proverbial leftovers.

Claires story better be going somewhere other than teen angst i hate my daddy crap, unfortunately her character is really starting to get on my nerves.

it seems to be revving up a bit more now i just wish we hadn't had so much filler in the last two eps and the sooner Peter gets out of ireland and back into.....oh i dunno, the plot! the better.
P.S. please no more Darth Petrelli, just no.

finally:"these are words from the future, cujo was a good dog".
PREDICTION TIME.
Sylar will fall in love with Maja and vice versa something which her brother will of course hate as he grows ever more suspicious of gosh golly innocent Gabriel, Sylar will end up killing the brother and stealing his power so he is the only one that can control Maja then in the finale the two of them will kill the main villain and in a complete opposite of last year Sylar will be the hero, the circle is complete.
thankyou for your time.

ShadowMaat
October 16th, 2007, 07:16 AM
i have a loosly baised theory about nathans burned mirror friend, maybe niki's alter ego made a jump and is now in nathan. maybe the alterego wasn't a fractured mind but an actual hero that lives inside people heads like that?
Yeah, I found myself wondering that, too. And then I was looking at his knuckles trying to figure out if they'd healed. But him suddenly gaining new powers would be a bit odd, and I still think Peter's the most likely candidate. Although the mirror makes a more convincing argument. ;)


My theory is that Nathan really was horribly burned by the explosion, and someone else with the power to create illusions is making him look whole and unharmed.

Hey, maybe THAT's what Mama Petrelli's power is. Keeping up appearances; makes perfect sense.
Yeah, I think I speculated about something like that earlier. Equally as interesting an idea.


Parkman's dad is the big bad? hmmm not too sure about that one, but only because i really want it to turn out that Kensei is the main villain of the piece.
Who's to say we won't have more than one bad guy?

Phantom Limb
October 16th, 2007, 07:25 AM
Who's to say we won't have more than one bad guy?

exquisitely made point, i guess that probably is the case, i was at first trying to figure out if parkmans dad was kensei somehow but that was ridiculous.
its just that the guy that pushed sulu off the building was definitely not papa parkmans build so Kensei and this guy might be in cahoots to what end.... i cannot even speculate.
its starting to get good is all i can say, more questions than answers and personally thats the way i like it. :cool:

Iguana775
October 16th, 2007, 07:41 AM
Nope. That was definitely an "Ooh, interesting..." moment for me.

me too. I said to my wife..."...what's with the big bug..." lol.

cheese
October 16th, 2007, 07:49 AM
A Massive step up from last week's disaster. I think part of the improvement was the Peter in Ireland story was completely ignored.

Hell even Claire/West was bareable. The whole Hollywood sign thing was very cute.

Matt/Molly story is really great, I loved everything about it, first rate awesomeness like the stuff that made the show great in the first place. I don't think I'm convinced at all that Matt's father is the killer.

New girl (I can't remember her name either) is kind of cool. The New Orleans stuff was laid on a bit thick. I'm wondering if it's only stuff she sees on tv that she can learn, or if she can pick up any skill she observes. Either way it's a great power!

The Wonder Twins benefited greatly by the addition of Sylar. I wasn't into them at all but with Sylar in the mix its looking more promising. Slyer does NOT have his powers back, if he did he would kill the twins without hesitation. The only reason he isn't is to keep them with him so he can grab their power later. The ticking is Sylar's "I'm being evil" musical cue, nothing more. Derek's head wasn't open, so Sylar did not take a power from him. Sylar was just eliminating a threat. The cockroach was a nice touch. I wonder if that will ever be explained.

Good to see Nathan actually developing a little. I'm not sure where you guys are getting all this "mirror theory" stuff. When he looks in the mirror he sees the burned face of his brother, it's a terrible memory because he feels guilty about Peter being "dead". Reading anything else into it I think is just nonsensical. There is nothing to indicate that anything weird is going on. There isn't any illusions, it's just guilt and grief. Not to sound harsh, but some of the speculation here is really really dumb.

I kind of missed Hiro, but at the same time don't mind it being excluded. The whole Kensei Story is pretty crappy so far. Though I wonder if Kensei is still around today...

Various rumours save Episode Five is the biggie. From the looks of things Peter is going to be making major developments. I'm hoping Matt's dad isn't dead that will be an interesting confrontation.

Darren
October 16th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Good to see Nathan actually developing a little. I'm not sure where you guys are getting all this "mirror theory" stuff. When he looks in the mirror he sees the burned face of his brother, it's a terrible memory because he feels guilty about Peter being "dead". Reading anything else into it I think is just nonsensical. There is nothing to indicate that anything weird is going on. There isn't any illusions, it's just guilt and grief. Not to sound harsh, but some of the speculation here is really really dumb.
... Except that the burn victim in the mirror looks to be played by Adrian P. (Nathan), not Milo V. (Peter). It's a big leap to assume that Nathan seeing himself horribly disfigured comes from grief over his brother.

EDIT: Screen capture (http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Nathans_proactiv_solution_before_shot.jpg)

I like the theory that Mama Petrelli is "keeping up appearances" for him, and that's what he really looks like now. Either that, or soon after the blast Nathan himself discovered that he has multiple powers.

Hypochondriac
October 16th, 2007, 10:45 AM
How is mama Petrellie keeping up appearances? Isn't there supposed to be a certain range to the powers? When Nathan went to see his kids shouldn't the illusion power have worn off?

I think he's pissed about what happened to his brother and developed/developing a split personality which has nothing to do with his powers, That or he has another power.

I'm hoping the illusion lady is still alive, and the 3 day trek through the jungle was an illusion. I can't believe "the company" could be that stupid. Still hate the west character. If he isn't working for the company I'll be pissed.

Mattathias2.0
October 16th, 2007, 04:44 PM
I have to saw I am pleased with this episode. It was nice to take a break from Hiro/Kensei and Peter.

The whole Claire/Stalker Boy is becoming rather dull.

I like the new girl, Monica. Interesting.

It's nice that the Maya/Alejsandro is finally taking a neat direction, with Sylar involved. Sylar is still powerless.

The Anegla Petrelli/Matt Parkman thing was cool.

Matt's dad is the boogyeman? wow!

I look forward to next weeks episode, Fight Or Flight.

MmmmMcKAy
October 16th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Best episode of the season so far. Fianlly some interesting things happened and the level of tension was up quite a bit.

The Parkman's father reveal was a big surprise. And Molly's trapped inside her mind with that man. How did Parkman's father become a "monster"? We know he was a criminal, according to Parkman. But going by what Molly says, he's utterly terrifying now.

Sylar meeting up with Maya and Alejandro was a good move too...makes their journey a bit more interesting.


Mrs Petrelli was good too. NOW she wants to protect all the Heroes.

The West/Claire thing was dull. You've got to wonder if he already knows that HRG is her father and West is just getting closer to Claire so that he can get close to HRG.

I'm glad we got a break from the Peter story.

I actually enjoyed Michah for once. And his cousin, the new hero, is pretty cool too.

s09119
October 16th, 2007, 06:51 PM
Am I the only one that enormously prefers West over Zach? I really like the Claire storyline now, whereas before I always felt it was too dry.

As for Peter/Hiro, I'm glad to see that Hiro's rather-dull time-trip was ignored for this episode, although I am gaining some interest in Kensei. Peter in Ireland looks promising; another continent, another Peter, more-or-less.

Overall, I'd say this was a great episode, and I loved seeing "Gabriel Grey" make a return... if only until Sylar can come out again with all his powers back.

ShadowMaat
October 16th, 2007, 06:56 PM
I doubt you're the only one. In fact, there are probably legions of Claire/West shippers out there and hordes of Westians happy to support the character. I simply can't share in that enthusiasm. Frankly, I think I'd trust Sylar more than I'd trust West. But I'm weird that way. ;)

the fifth man
October 16th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Personally, I think Sylar still has all his powers. I just think they've been blocked somehow. Maybe something was done to him during one of his many "surgeries" to save his life. I'm sure him being powerless won't last too long though.

Easter Lily
October 16th, 2007, 10:54 PM
Sylar without his powers is a toothless tiger... He's still a predator though but a more interesting one IMO...

For me, the Matt/Molly arc is probably the more interesting one at the moment. I'm glad we get to see the group photo so early in the piece. I hate shows that just tease the audience endlessly without showing anything and pretending to be all mysterious.
It's probably the case that Parkman snr isn't the bogeyman but he's in the clutches of the bogeyman... Of course, I have nothing to back that up... just a surmise. ;)
I daresay there's nothing coincidental about all our regs being off springs of the original group.
I'm okay with all the arcs... even Claire and stalker boy because they all seem to lead somewhere. I just don't like them dragging out the Peter amnesia thing with the "should I or shouldn't I" open the box dilemma... it's so "been there, done that." And really Heroes can do much better than that.

eri-chan
October 16th, 2007, 11:24 PM
yeah west gets on my nerves too. the hollywood thing was a cute scene but still... claire's now become a bigger noob and west is too pushy. i think most people don't like him.

i kinda always liked maya y alejandro. i got the feeling that their story was going somewhere when i first saw them, and now sylar's in the view, ahh so much more better :) i think that sylar ends up taking alejandro's power, may or may not fall for maya, and then end up being maya's support instead of alejandro all the while keeping the fact that he killed him secret from her.

the cockroach thing is a symbol. its been there from the very first ep. mohinder talks about cockroaches being the pinnacle of evolution in the pilot ep. i cant help but think sylar is very hard to kill because there's always a cockroach near him. well he's like a cockroach in that aspect.

i dont really like molly and matt was starting to get on me, but this ep redeemed matt at least. maybe its molly's tone that i dont like.

i thought that the nathan mirror thing was peter at first and this ep, i realised it was nathan all along. anyway i think that's just a guilt issue with him.

trombonist15
October 16th, 2007, 11:44 PM
Yeah, Sylar's more interesting as a character when he's (supposedly) powerless. That whole Claire thing still bores me though. Can't wait until Peter comes back next week.

nekoi
October 17th, 2007, 01:08 AM
The lack of Hiro made this episode overall boring.... for the most part anyways. His storyline seems to be the most intense and well developed; it's very imaginitive and fun-- it's what I enjoy of the show and the fact that the most enjoyable character didn't appear in the episode at all was just a let down.

Maya and Alejandro, for the past 3 episodes were boring, but once they crossed paths with Sylar, you could just tell things will get interesting! I don't think Sylar took her powers, but his eyes were turning black from the effect of Maya's powers, inwhich he was dying in the same way characters from the past 3 episodes were. You dig?

Sylar's weakness has really been developing his character, and I love the tradgedy of it.. I can't wait to watch more of his journey to recovery.

Claire is now a believable cheerleader: a liar, selfish, reckless and just rude. I thought she was rather out of character in this episode and that she's not really thinking for herself as she usually does-- maybe it's just the young girl in love with the bad boy thing, but seriously, Claire, smarten up!

It's no secret of mine that I'm not a fan of the children characters of the show. Micah and Molly bore the hell out of me and their powers aren't even that exciting. The writing for the characters is just dull and cheesy, while the best they can do is put them as side characters or have Micah get his cousin free Pay Per View.

Oh well, at least Nikki didn't show up.

Speaking of Molly, though... it was kind of a shame to figure out who the new big bad was so soon... let alone have it be a character with no past reference in the show. I was kind of hoping it'd be Claire's new boyfriend, but I guess now Matt will get the screen time he deserves.

jds1982
October 17th, 2007, 07:41 AM
So it seems everyones parents were in the original twelve, who wants to bet Sylar's dad was one of them to. So Parkman's dad is supposedly the Nightmare man, definitely interesting, but why does he have such an interest in Molly? Perhaps he's a pedophile, knowing NBC and their love affair with pedophiles I wouldn't be surprised. Of course I'm hoping it's just so she'll be too afraid to find him.

Trek_Girl42
October 17th, 2007, 08:54 AM
I doubt you're the only one. In fact, there are probably legions of Claire/West shippers out there and hordes of Westians happy to support the character. I simply can't share in that enthusiasm. Frankly, I think I'd trust Sylar more than I'd trust West. But I'm weird that way. ;)
The thing is, West's manipulation (and yes, he MUST be manipulating Claire, I refuse to believe otherwise) just seems so much worse.....weirdly. Sylar is more forthright in his lying, he lies blatantly, but West is pulling this psychological "trust me" mind game crap on Claire, while Sylar with Maya and Alejandro just says (in short) "I know where this guys is, I can get you there".

West is playing on Claire's emotions, at least when Sylar comes to get you it's nothing personal. :P

Xicer
October 17th, 2007, 11:58 AM
Speaking of Molly, though... it was kind of a shame to figure out who the new big bad was so soon... let alone have it be a character with no past reference in the show. I was kind of hoping it'd be Claire's new boyfriend, but I guess now Matt will get the screen time he deserves.

Well, we don't for 100% certainty that Papa Parkman is the Boogeyman. ;) Sorta like what someone up the page said, he might just be a puppet and the real Boogeyman may be controlling him.

Kirath
October 17th, 2007, 03:24 PM
My working theory on Matt's dad is he's been on the run from company for all these years. He's one of those Linderman considered to have lost their way. The part about him stealing money may have been the cover story the company concocted for the family and any law enforcement agengies they may have manipulated into searching for him. Its possible that his 1st contact with Molly occurred because the company tried to use her to find him. She doesn't automatically know where everyone is she has to look for them. His power must allow him to detect and block her tracking ability. Mr Parkman may not know that she's a child or no longer under the company's control, so he when she tried to find him the this time he struck out to protect himself.

Darren
October 18th, 2007, 10:13 AM
Molly said that the nightmare man is worse than Sylar. What could his power be? All we know so far is that he can see Molly when she goes looking for him, and that if she gets too close he can apparently grab on to her consciousness.

I think it would be cool if he wasn't just a super-powered telepath, but if his ability was that he can use anyone's ability against them. Imagine him messing up Matt's mind-reading ability, or screwing with Nathan's ability to fly ... or going toe-to-toe with Peter. Anything that Peter throws at him comes right back to bite him.

Agent_Dark
October 19th, 2007, 04:41 AM
This episode would have had an A+++ rating if Monica had of released a 'quit your jibber-jabber fool' as she king-pwned that noob that tried to rob the store ahahaha.

otherwise, A+

wwlh
October 19th, 2007, 10:44 AM
...Am I the only one who noticed that big fat cockroach when we saw whats-his-name after Syler killed him?


I'm hoping the illusion lady is still alive, and the 3 day trek through the jungle was an illusion. I can't believe "the company" could be that stupid.


I think that Candace is still alive! After I saw her with Sylar and she said that she had rescued him...I believe that she IS the cockroach (well...she's making it seem that she looks like that as a disguise).

I don't believe that "The Company" is that stupid and I believe that killing her was all an illusion to see what he'd do and where he'd go - that Candace is still following him...

jds1982
October 19th, 2007, 05:54 PM
I think that Candace is still alive! After I saw her with Sylar and she said that she had rescued him...I believe that she IS the cockroach (well...she's making it seem that she looks like that as a disguise).

I don't believe that "The Company" is that stupid and I believe that killing her was all an illusion to see what he'd do and where he'd go - that Candace is still following him...

Uh why would she make herself look like a roach, when she could make herself look like nothing? Pretty sure the roach is just an allusion to Sylars true nature, he is a cockroach, it's a symbol of Sylar. Either that or Candace is really a superintelligent cockroach and the human candace is an illusion, hey it worked for a Godzilla movie.

eri-chan
October 20th, 2007, 05:30 AM
i think candice is indeed dead. as we know, the future sylar got her power so he would've had to cut her head open somehow. so i don't buy the candice could be alive argument.

ShadowMaat
October 20th, 2007, 06:48 AM
i think candice is indeed dead. as we know, the future sylar got her power so he would've had to cut her head open somehow. so i don't buy the candice could be alive argument.

I'm pretty sure Future Sylar doesn't exist anymore. Not that version, anyway. The present was changed to prevent that future from happening so those scenes are no longer applicable.

eri-chan
October 20th, 2007, 08:24 AM
hmmm i dunno about that... just because that future doesnt happen anymore, it doesnt mean that some things won't be the same as that future. like in 5 years gone, we saw sylar with ted's powers although ted wasn't killed by sylar 'til after that ep in the present.
anyway i heard a theory from a friend that sylar might still be the bomb that blows up new york so i was going on that. but that discussion would be for another thread :)

i watched this ep again and now i think that the painting of noah being shot shows claire going out with a boy just for timeframe instead of noah being killed by mystery man/bf. he's meant to be going overseas with the haitian soon so i'm guessing he's going to die there.

isabelqc
October 20th, 2007, 11:11 AM
Quick thoughts on KoS:

Geez, do all the Petrellis have to be so frickin' adorable. Simon. Monty. You guys so win in the gene pool. And Nathan thank you for listening to your boys - they knew what they were talking about. *pets newly shaven face* Back to the pretty!

Sylar. How do you just keep getting hotter and hotter? You know you want the Maya, Alejandro special to be added to you palette ;P And was it only me that was seeing the crazy hotness that could be Sylar/Maya.... yeah, I think I was. Alejandro, gwad the looks he kept giving them: "Mira, chamo, no te metas con me hermana porque si el hace dano no te tendria que matar - ella lo puede hacer..."

And for the one who no speaken the Spanish: "Yo, bro, don't start messing with my sister because if you hurt her, I wouldn't have to kill you - she can do it herself..."

Micha *huggles*

Oh, Claire. You too cute, the boy is, well, I'm still not behind him... The Hollywood sign date was sweet and even if you saw the jumping/fly/catching thing a mile away it was still sweet.

MmM!!!!!! OH. MY. *THUD* Dude! Daddy Parkman is a baddie - WOAH! I did not see that coming and I'm actually disappointed in myself, because it make complete sense that all the Heroes parents were connected in one way or another. As for Mo's and Matt's lovers spat fight, aww! And Molly. Molly. Has. To. Be. Okay. That's all I'm saying. And that Matt better whump daddy one.

And finally - where was my half nekkid Peter and Hiro? *stamps foot* But seriously, even though I missed them, the episode didn't suffer w/o them :D

legalbetter
October 20th, 2007, 03:59 PM
I think that the hooded man is Daddy Parkmans power and that he can only be seen by the person who's mind he is in thus Mrs. Pattrelli inflicting the wounds on her self. That would also mean that Hiro's daddy jumped.

knowsfords
October 20th, 2007, 06:40 PM
I think that the hooded man is Daddy Parkmans power and that he can only be seen by the person who's mind he is in thus Mrs. Pattrelli inflicting the wounds on her self. That would also mean that Hiro's daddy jumped.

Except Ando saw the guy and Mr Nakamura go over together.

Atlantean_Fan
October 20th, 2007, 07:21 PM
Telepathic manipulation.

If the guy can make you hit yourself and jump from a rooftop, he can make Ando see whatever he wants just as easily.

puddlejumper747
October 20th, 2007, 08:29 PM
I just have to say that if Mr. Bennett doesn't tell Claire about (or show her) the painting, I'm going to have a really hard time feeling bad for him if/when he dies. He really should be honest with her, and give her a good reason to stay away from West, instead of just expecting her to obey him without any real motivation.

ShadowMaat
October 20th, 2007, 08:45 PM
hmmm i dunno about that... just because that future doesnt happen anymore, it doesnt mean that some things won't be the same as that future.
Some things, yes. But I wouldn't say that because X happened in the (false) future it will automatically happen in the current timeline of the show.

the fifth man
October 20th, 2007, 09:28 PM
Molly said that the nightmare man is worse than Sylar. What could his power be? All we know so far is that he can see Molly when she goes looking for him, and that if she gets too close he can apparently grab on to her consciousness.

I think it would be cool if he wasn't just a super-powered telepath, but if his ability was that he can use anyone's ability against them. Imagine him messing up Matt's mind-reading ability, or screwing with Nathan's ability to fly ... or going toe-to-toe with Peter. Anything that Peter throws at him comes right back to bite him.

That would be a pretty cool ability. And a very hard one to counter. I guess only time will tell. So far, this season has me very intrigued though. Pretty much like Season 1 did last year.:)

eri-chan
October 22nd, 2007, 03:24 AM
Some things, yes. But I wouldn't say that because X happened in the (false) future it will automatically happen in the current timeline of the show.

i don't expect things to automatically happen because of what we've seen in the future. but, if i see things happen that happen to co-incide with events from the future, then i'll take it to be that. like candice's death. ;)

MechaThor
October 22nd, 2007, 12:19 PM
Series two is Excellent! However I am getting annoyed with ll the reused powers! I know if it was real duplicated powers would happen, But for a TV its better to have a vast range of powers. Including "power absorders" like Peter There has been like 3 people who can fly, 3 that can heal, 2 that can remember and learn stuff by just looking at it, amoung others

and the two new South Americain twins new powers suck! I want to see some cool powers like lightning from the hands, guys with wings, pople who can transform into something, someone how can control wasps or bees like a queen, someone who can control plants and make hudge vines grow out of the ground, and man covered in spikes! You know cool stuff!

Phenix
October 23rd, 2007, 10:59 AM
Series two is Excellent! However I am getting annoyed with ll the reused powers! I know if it was real duplicated powers would happen, But for a TV its better to have a vast range of powers. Including "power absorders" like Peter There has been like 3 people who can fly, 3 that can heal, 2 that can remember and learn stuff by just looking at it, amoung others

and the two new South Americain twins new powers suck! I want to see some cool powers like lightning from the hands, guys with wings, pople who can transform into something, someone how can control wasps or bees like a queen, someone who can control plants and make hudge vines grow out of the ground, and man covered in spikes! You know cool stuff!

Are you adding Peter for each ability? The writers of Heroes have already said that no one will transform into a different form. For one thing it is probably too expensive to constantly change a character from normal to super.

MechaThor
October 23rd, 2007, 03:48 PM
Are you adding Peter for each ability? The writers of Heroes have already said that no one will transform into a different form. For one thing it is probably too expensive to constantly change a character from normal to super.

Yes i was counting Peter and Silers copied powers!
Its a shame no Transforming guys. Maybe someone how because of their power looks diffrent then? Like Nightcrawler or the Beast from X-men (only more original and less blue)

Its just you can only have so many healing, flying and super memory guys!

Matt G
May 15th, 2008, 03:06 PM
1. Sylar does not have his powers, he's just a regular psycho now, just with the Lantino twins in tow.

2. Claire and West is...meh, either way Noah can't exactly talk about Claire dating given that he's not following his own rules!

3. Nathan's back, and has issues, pairing up with Matt could be interesting.

4. Parkman senior = dodgy. Very interesting.

Now something's cooking, just not sure what!

SgaIsBad
September 5th, 2008, 09:31 AM
Sylar dreamy?

garhkal
November 30th, 2015, 10:45 PM
So Sylar manages to survive a 3 day walk before recuperating from major surgery and wounds. He also managed this feat with an open wound. And while walking he manages to fully heal and can now steal powers again. Am I the only person who noticed that his M.O. has changed? He suddenly goes for the base of the skull where as he used to just cut the top of the skull off. This entire scenario wreaks of lazy writing.


I don't think he actually stole any powers. Just killed them in a quick and efficient manner..


The new girl, I didn't catch her name, is lame as well. Her power is cool and she will hopefully serve some sort of purpose in the end. Or is this just to connect with Micah's power. It does make sense that they all fit together.

Muscle memory mimicry.. Yea its strange too. I can understand her being able to mimic the MOVE but with out the body's flexability and strength to do it properly, i can't understand how she can pull of some of what she eventually does...


Is anyone else getting the feeling that everyone is related by blood?

Well didn't linderman somwhat say that in S1??


Molly's scene was great. I guess Matt can not project thoughts into people.


Not yet maybe. BUT based on what he is doing to people in Heroes reborn, he gets there


Yeah, the thrill of the new season is starting to wear off. Hopefully things will gear up soon. And PLEASE do something interesting with Sylar.

I hope Kristen Bell's character is a good one, too. And that she isn't just a badass version of Veronica Mars.

I am loving lighting gal.. Her taunts as she 'tazers someone' is nice..


Am I the only one that enormously prefers West over Zach? I really like the Claire storyline now, whereas before I always felt it was too dry.

Nope. I am liking West, just not to the same extent i liked Zach.


So it seems everyones parents were in the original twelve, who wants to bet Sylar's dad was one of them to. So Parkman's dad is supposedly the Nightmare man, definitely interesting, but why does he have such an interest in Molly? Perhaps he's a pedophile, knowing NBC and their love affair with pedophiles I wouldn't be surprised. Of course I'm hoping it's just so she'll be too afraid to find him.

On the pado angle, i doubt it was that, more that he was affecting any one looking for him (or potentially could) via nightmares to scare them off.

As to the parent angle, it does seem like many of them have a relation to the original company founders..


I just have to say that if Mr. Bennett doesn't tell Claire about (or show her) the painting, I'm going to have a really hard time feeling bad for him if/when he dies. He really should be honest with her, and give her a good reason to stay away from West, instead of just expecting her to obey him without any real motivation.

I think he has had too many secrets for too long, to ever come clean on everything so easily/quickly..