Surviving the End of the Universe

[SG-17]

Would it be possible, that if you trap a ship in a time dilation field, and have it set that while a few seconds pass inside, and few hundred years pass outside, could that protect the ship from the end of the universe and start of the next? Of would you have to trap it in a time loop, like in Window of Opportunity? Or would neither of them work and you would need to be outside of normal space-time/another dimension?

[MartianManhunter]

I dont think so.

Being stuck in a time loop would mean reliving the same dad over and over again. It wouldnt help you escape it, and as for the time dilation field, im not sure if it would work but i guess there always a possibility.

But id say that your best bet is to just go to an alternate reality that still has a few billion years left.

[DemonTard]

I dont think so.

Being stuck in a time loop would mean reliving the same dad over and over again. It wouldnt help you escape it, and as for the time dilation field, im not sure if it would work but i guess there always a possibility.

But id say that your best bet is to just go to an alternate reality that still has a few billion years left.

there have been theories that say Two molecules of similar makeup cannot exist in two different universes. so.. while you are protected by time in the TD field while it is active, you would Cease to exist when the TD feild collapses or is shut off.

[SG-17]

Well if the goes with the Big Crunch theory, the universe will start all over again, with another big bang, and with the our big bang, it took billions of years for all the types of molecules to be created afterwards. But lets disregard that theory for now. Well what if there is a void of sorts, like in Doctor Who(where the Daleks were hiding), if you could gain acsess to the void you could survive the end, and birth of a new. And who says the new universe will be the same, as the previous universe.

[marty2006]

Well if the goes with the Big Crunch theory, the universe will start all over again, with another big bang, and with the our big bang, it took billions of years for all the types of molecules to be created afterwards. But lets disregard that theory for now. Well what if there is a void of sorts, like in Doctor Who(where the Daleks were hiding), if you could gain acsess to the void you could survive the end, and birth of a new. And who says the new universe will be the same, as the previous universe.

was guna mention dr who myself, im guessing this thread is inspired by the finale of this years dr who

[NATIK]

The only way I could see anyone or anything surviving a potential big crunch would be through extradimensional traveling. Find a universe that isnt undergoing a Big crunch or a Big bang and go there, potentially you may have to travel between numerous universes if you are talking Stargate physics due to entropic cascade failure, the condition alternate Carter experienced in "Point of View" in season 3.

[Darkdreams]

Well if the goes with the Big Crunch theory, the universe will start all over again, with another big bang, and with the our big bang, it took billions of years for all the types of molecules to be created afterwards. But lets disregard that theory for now. Well what if there is a void of sorts, like in Doctor Who(where the Daleks were hiding), if you could gain acsess to the void you could survive the end, and birth of a new. And who says the new universe will be the same, as the previous universe.

There is also the expansion theory, that the universe will continue to expand until the distance between galaxies is so great that travel would be impossible or very difficult without advanced technology.
Right now the universe is still expanding when it should be slowing down, the theory behind that is that dark matter and energy are speeding up the expansion. At least that is what I have heard. its probably more complicated then that.

[NATIK]

Yes and then there is the idea of every bit of matter in the universe being sucked into blackholes eventually, which is then followed by the black holes slowly bleeding off matter and antimatter into the universe once again, perhaps forming new complex matter or not.

There is alot of ideas about how things work, we dont know much about it but the big crunch is what we discussed here, so lets keep it at that, or the discussion is going to get derailed.

[Darkdreams]

Yes and then there is the idea of every bit of matter in the universe being sucked into blackholes eventually, which is then followed by the black holes slowly bleeding off matter and antimatter into the universe once again, perhaps forming new complex matter or not.

There is alot of ideas about how things work, we dont know much about it but the big crunch is what we discussed here, so lets keep it at that, or the discussion is going to get derailed.

Thought we were talking about Surviving the End of the Universe, the expansion theory is another theory about the end of the universe so is the theory of black holes, so I dont see where the tread is getting derailed as it is still discussing the topic of the end of the universe.

[NATIK]

Thought we were talking about Surviving the End of the Universe, the expansion theory is another theory about the end of the universe so is the theory of black holes, so I dont see where the tread is getting derailed as it is still discussing the topic of the end of the universe.

The expansion theory does not contain an end to the universe, it will merely become a wast empty blackness, nothing new will spring from it, all resources having been spent, the galaxies have been broken up, the last remains of stars are white dwarfs and black holes, even planets will have drifted from the stars so far away that they are not within one hubble unit. All Celestial units will drift infinetly into nothingness and since everything is heading in direction away from the original big bang, nothing will ever encounter anything else ever again.

There is no end and no new beginning, thus it is worthless to discuss in relation to the topic.


The Black holes occupying everything idea once again have no end and no new beginning per se, it is a continuation of the same universe turned black aswell but atleast it has a minor chance of sparking to life again slowly when the black holes have evaporated all their matter through Hawking radiation.

I guess that one has a slight relevance but it was really the crunch that was implied as far as I can read from the OP, that is generally considered the end of the universe, most other models does not an end to survive only an infinite black emptiness.

[rlr149]

how about the time jumper, jump over the "crunch" into the next universe, though how it would jump over something that may not have "time" is beyond me

maybe

[Ripple in Space]

Would it be possible, that if you trap a ship in a time dilation field, and have it set that while a few seconds pass inside, and few hundred years pass outside, could that protect the ship from the end of the universe and start of the next? Of would you have to trap it in a time loop, like in Window of Opportunity? Or would neither of them work and you would need to be outside of normal space-time/another dimension?

No, the Universe is everything that makes our reality what it it; it is not just a specific area of space.

No Universe=No Laws of Science=No Puddle Jumper

How can you dilate time when time doesn't exist? How can you power a ship when there is no energy (at least not the way we know it to be)?

It's kind of like saying, "how good would a football game be with no rules, no field, no equipment and no players?"

[Ranlier]

We're assuming there is nothing beyond our universe. Its possible that our universe is simply pushing against the rest of space with the force of the Big Bang, which will eventually even out and be pushed back by the rest of space until equilibrium is established. Our universe will then only shrink when another big bang force pushes against it.

[Wraith_Boy]

The Universe exists with everything inside it. If that were to end, then everything in it should end.

"Near the event horizon of a Black-Hole, the time dilation increases rapidly. From the point of view of an external observer, it takes an infinite amount of time for an object to approach the event horizon, at which point the light coming from it is infinitely red-shifted. To the distant observer, the object, falling slower and slower, approaches but never reaches the event horizon. The object itself might not even notice the point at which it crosses the event horizon, and will do so in a finite amount of proper time."

If they or anything with a gravitational field around them are subject to time-dilation effects, then if they can be destroyed when the Universe collapses in on itself, why wouldn't a dinky little ship encased in one be able to survive.

If the Universe were to end, then everything contained inside would go along with it. Nothing would escape!

The only way would be to somehow travel to an AU, then hope it didn't go along with the other or wasn't affected in anyway.

[Ravroz]

That is an interesting way to escape the destruction of the universe. I mean just because one universe is destroyed that shouldn't mean anything to the others right?