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Okay, when Daniel found Earth's gate address in the caves, he had all but the last symbol, and proclaimed that he could not get the gate to work without the last symbol. My question is, if the only symbol that they didn't know was the last one, why didn't they just try every remaining symbol until they got a lock? There would only be 25 or so symbols left, assuming symbols never repeat (which they don't). I'm surprised I haven't thought of it before.
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Originally posted by Major TylerOkay, when Daniel found Earth's gate address in the caves, he had all but the last symbol, and proclaimed that he could not get the gate to work without the last symbol. My question is, if the only symbol that they didn't know was the last one, why didn't they just try every remaining symbol until they got a lock?
Additionally, the whole question of how exactly they managed to dial back to Earth (apparently) without the presense of a DHD remains murky. The novelization has Kawalsky manually dialling up the gate but from whence the power cometh, no one knows. It's unclear how the gate would react to a manual dial if the address inputed is incorrect. Reset might be impossible without a dialling computer or DHD.END OF LINE
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Originally posted by Major TylerOkay, when Daniel found Earth's gate address in the caves, he had all but the last symbol, and proclaimed that he could not get the gate to work without the last symbol. My question is, if the only symbol that they didn't know was the last one, why didn't they just try every remaining symbol until they got a lock? There would only be 25 or so symbols left, assuming symbols never repeat (which they don't). I'm surprised I haven't thought of it before.
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Originally posted by AnaniasSpeaking of that, did the Air Force really need Daniel at all? The only thing he gave them was the last symbol. Katherine very clearly says they already had the first six. Is it really worth bringing a new guy in just so he could tell them which of the +/- 30 symbols to try? They could just try one a day and get inside of a month.
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Originally posted by Ugly PigThe problem was that they never realized they needed seven symbols. They recognized six, and assumed that's what they needed. And when they couldn't get it to work, they figured maybe the symbols had some other meaning that they'd need a brilliant mind to figure out, which is where Daniel came in. Of course, all he needed to find was that they had simply overlooked the PoO...
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But it's safe to assum that if they used seven symbols to get to Abydos they would need seven to get back. Plus the PoO would look diffrent then all the other symbols on the gate representing conslelations. So the whole trial and error thing would work...but if there was a DHD with the gate, isn't the PoO automatically put in when they pressed the red activation jewel. Providing of course they knew how to work the DHD.
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Originally posted by Axlebut if there was a DHD with the gate, isn't the PoO automatically put in when they pressed the red activation jewel. Providing of course they knew how to work the DHD.
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Originally posted by AxleBut it's safe to assum that if they used seven symbols to get to Abydos they would need seven to get back. Plus the PoO would look diffrent then all the other symbols on the gate representing conslelations. So the whole trial and error thing would work...but if there was a DHD with the gate, isn't the PoO automatically put in when they pressed the red activation jewel. Providing of course they knew how to work the DHD.sigpic
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Originally posted by AnaniasSpeaking of that, did the Air Force really need Daniel at all? The only thing he gave them was the last symbol. Katherine very clearly says they already had the first six. Is it really worth bringing a new guy in just so he could tell them which of the +/- 30 symbols to try? They could just try one a day and get inside of a month.
The problem here is of course that the original movie was a fast paced action movie that wasn't all that concerned about 'getting it right'. The same can be said for Devlin and Emmerich's next work, Indepence Day. These kind of movies are great 'popcorn flicks' but have the nasty tendancy to break down once you start examining them too closely.
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Originally posted by ibwolfThese kind of movies are great 'popcorn flicks' but have the nasty tendancy to break down once you start examining them too closely.
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