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JoNzA
June 26th, 2007, 08:22 AM
sorry if this thread has been done before but I have a quick quastien about drones. Why can they go right true shields?

Vala_M
June 26th, 2007, 08:36 AM
Because drones are basically in a way on a sort of overload mode full of energy and when they hit a shield, they overwhelm it and pass through. That's why they are glowing, at least that's what I think.

Vala,

JoNzA
June 26th, 2007, 08:48 AM
Ok but in that way wouldt the asurans be able to destroy atlantis with ease ? just drop out of hyperspace in orbit and lanch a couple of 100 drones?

.jolinar.
June 26th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Ancient shields can defend against drones.

fugiman
June 26th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Well we have only seen the drones pass through Goa'uld modfied shields and unshielded Wraith Hiveships so we don't know how the drones would fair against the Atlantis shields which are the most powerful shields that we have ever seen so I don't think the drones would effect the shields of atlantis, I mean a PJ was able to take one drone hit so I think Atlantis would be able to take even more

JoNzA
June 26th, 2007, 10:26 AM
Good point but mayby drones are more effective than other weapens. agenst atlantis

fugiman
June 26th, 2007, 10:29 AM
Good point but mayby drones are more effective than other weapens. agenst atlantis

Well that beam weapon is highly effective so I think the Asurnas knew that the Beam would be more effective then the Drones or they could just launch drones out of a stargate and attack the city

JoNzA
June 26th, 2007, 10:35 AM
you are right i think but woudent it be easyer if they just activated atlantis stargate?

Vala_M
June 26th, 2007, 10:43 AM
you are right i think but woudent it be easyer if they just activated atlantis stargate?

Yes but they couldn't fire the beam weapon through and if they did, it wouldn't do any damage since the gate's shield would prevent it from reintergrating.

Vala,

JoNzA
June 26th, 2007, 10:56 AM
I know but would it not make any damage to the iris shield? it should at least be weaker than the city shield

Asuran
June 26th, 2007, 11:02 AM
Thats true, the gate shield could collapse but the beam would only destroy the control room instead of the whole city, since the gate is located at the highest pier in the city.

JoNzA
June 26th, 2007, 11:05 AM
Thats true, the gate shield could collapse but the beam would only destroy the control room instead of the whole city, since the gate is located at the highest pier in the city.

you are right I did not think about that but mayby it would render the city completly useless

Asuran
June 26th, 2007, 11:14 AM
it probably would for a little while, but remember that Atlantis has an auxiliary control which they could use, unfortunately, they wont be able to use the stargate though.

JoNzA
June 26th, 2007, 11:19 AM
thats true, but I do not i think we would be able to rebuild atleast not for a very long time

Cory Holmes
June 26th, 2007, 12:50 PM
I mean a PJ was able to take one drone hit so I think Atlantis would be able to take even more

This is actually a common misconception. In The Return II the Puddle Jumper's cloak-turned-shield was enough to interact with the drone, but the weapon actually penetrated the rear shield, almost hit the Jumper itself, and went out through the front shield. Three drones were chasing the jumper before the impact, three drones were still chasing it after the impact.

If you can't see it coming out of the front of the Jumper's shields, look at how many drones have to pull away when it dives under the water. There weren't any more launched, so that one drone survived the impact with the Jumper.

That being said, that is the first time we've seen drones actually interact with shields as they normally pass right through them with no effect at all. I imagine an actual Ancient shield (and not one that's jury-rigged out of a different system) would be able to stand up to a drone attack for some time.

deadman
June 26th, 2007, 05:18 PM
We actually saw a drone hit an unshielded Atlantis and it just exploded barely damaging anything, so Atlantis could easily handle 100 drones with a shield.

Vala_M
June 27th, 2007, 06:28 AM
Thats true, the gate shield could collapse but the beam would only destroy the control room instead of the whole city, since the gate is located at the highest pier in the city.

That is incorrect, for one, the shield PREVENTS reintegration of ANY kind of matter, PERIOD. It would NOT weaken the shield. Unless of course, they fired a beam like Sokar did at the iris but the shield would probably be able to take it better than Earth's iris did.

Vala,

Mister Oragahn
June 27th, 2007, 08:05 AM
This is actually a common misconception. In The Return II the Puddle Jumper's cloak-turned-shield was enough to interact with the drone, but the weapon actually penetrated the rear shield, almost hit the Jumper itself, and went out through the front shield. Three drones were chasing the jumper before the impact, three drones were still chasing it after the impact.

If you can't see it coming out of the front of the Jumper's shields, look at how many drones have to pull away when it dives under the water. There weren't any more launched, so that one drone survived the impact with the Jumper.

That being said, that is the first time we've seen drones actually interact with shields as they normally pass right through them with no effect at all. I imagine an actual Ancient shield (and not one that's jury-rigged out of a different system) would be able to stand up to a drone attack for some time.

Yep, though it's difficult to see.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/albumuser/sg/droneqt2_bigfatzoom.gif

The shield reacts even after the drone goes through it.

Asuran
June 27th, 2007, 05:36 PM
See, I think that the drone just bounced off the shield, and since the jumper was turning at the time, it made it look look like it went through it.

Just my opinion though.

Cory Holmes
June 27th, 2007, 06:42 PM
See, I think that the drone just bounced off the shield, and since the jumper was turning at the time, it made it look look like it went through it.

Just my opinion though.

I could believe that if it were a true shield system, but it wasn't. It was a Puddle Jumper's cloaking device that was rewired into a very basic defensive shield. After what we've seen drones do Anubis' ships, I refuse to believe that a piddly little jury-rig like that would far that much better.