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PG15
May 11th, 2007, 06:41 PM
Hey folks! I've recently started watching this show, and it looks pretty good. There is just one problem.

I'm ok with regular violence, I mean, a guy kicking the crap out of another, or some broken nose and bleeding, that's fine by me. However, I hear there are cut-up hands and opened-up heads? That might be a little too much for me.

Still, I'm not going to let that stop me watching this thing, but I'll need to prepare for them. I know the cut-up hand happens in the pilot, but when does the opened-up heads appear? And, are there any other gory scenes like these?

Thanks guys!

Buddhawasanancient
May 11th, 2007, 06:52 PM
This show definitely has alot of gore so if you're a bit squeamish, be warned! But with that said the show is fantastic and worth watching even with the gore. (I suggest perfecting the art of holding your hand up and covering the screen like I used to do in those "Oz" shower scenes ;) )Also, I'm not sure when the "cut-up heads" start happening. It's either the first or second episode. Enjoy!

PG15
May 11th, 2007, 09:38 PM
Yikes, you got that right; I almost saw someone's chest getting...uh..."zipped up".

Why the gore? Why so much? :(

Cap116
May 11th, 2007, 10:40 PM
The gore consists mainly around three characters. Claire, Peter, and Syler. Or than them it is pretty tame. At least that is what I have noticed.

jazz!
May 12th, 2007, 01:39 AM
The bloody violence, the gore, the number of times certain character(s) have sufferd terminal dislocations, it all adds a sense of realism to a show about mutant superheroes! xD :D

Doze
May 12th, 2007, 01:32 PM
First off Welcome PG15, You'll love the show.

This king of stuff has been in comic book for some time and because itís a comic book turned in to a TV show there is no big surprise here for me. There has not been anything done as a 'shock value' violence in the show has at no time have it thought 'now that was not needed'. It always has a reason and they just donít imply what is going on, they show it. Even when Claire had her flesh burnt off by Ted, it was done tastefully and it was what it was.

Cap116
May 12th, 2007, 01:41 PM
First off Welcome PG15, You'll love the show.

This king of stuff has been in comic book for some time and because itís a comic book turned in to a TV show there is no big surprise here for me. There has not been anything done as a 'shock value' violence in the show has at no time have it thought 'now that was not needed'. It always has a reason and they just donít imply what is going on, they show it. Even when Claire had her flesh burnt off by Ted, it was done tastefully and it was what it was.

I agree. Since the beginning of the show, my brother and I have talked about how close this show is to a comic book. Character relationships, couping with powers, and character choices (their morals). And the best part is, just when you think you have figured something out, "a curve ball" comes and changes everything. That is what makes this show awesome. Good call, Doze.

PG15
May 12th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Oh, I know about the plot twists and stuff like that, after all, that's why I'm thinking of watching this show; I have no doubt it's awesome.

Great, now she gets her flesh burnt off? Which episode is that?

Seriously, how is this stuff being allowed at primetime?!

Arative
May 12th, 2007, 03:18 PM
Its pretty much a given when Claire shows up, there will be blood, so far if I recall correctly, she's pushed a rib in, had her neck broken, tree limb in the head, showed on an autospy table with her chest cut open, burned. The only real scene I had a problem with, thought it was too much, was the autospy scene, that a bit much, other than that the gore is fairly tame.

With Sylar, you will see people getting their head sliced open or at least the after effects for the most part.

Nikki/Jessica had a few bloody scene's, people ripped apart some corpses.

Peter has a few bloody scenes, not much though.

Overall, this isn't a real gory show, its on prime time TV, its nothing you'll see compared to something on HBO.

Good news, on the 19th, Sci-fi plans on running a Heroes marathon from 8am, showing all the episodes leading up to the season finale on Monday.

Calicto
May 12th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Realism.

Get use to it.

jazz!
May 13th, 2007, 10:47 AM
Oh, I know about the plot twists and stuff like that, after all, that's why I'm thinking of watching this show; I have no doubt it's awesome.

Great, now she gets her flesh burnt off? Which episode is that?

Seriously, how is this stuff being allowed at primetime?!

Initially I felt the same too, but then..... :




I don't watch all of the following shows but I'm pretty certain that:

a) They contain the same amount as or more gore/violence than Heroes
b) They are as popular or more popular than Heroes
c) And they broadcast at the same time or later than Heroes (which I believe to be 9pm according to Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC#Programming))

Bones, CSI, X-Files, NCIS, Law & Order, Cold Case, ER, Greys Anatomy, House, 24

- cop shows, Medical Dramas etc

All very popular, all very intense and all very gorey

entity22
May 14th, 2007, 05:36 AM
I don't find any of the things in this show disturbing since the violence and gore(although I find that term too hard for Heroes) is used to tell the story,to create an image,make it more realistic.If u take everything out u might just as well make it a soap-opera.
For example there are movies like say Hostel and many others for which gore and violence are at the core of the story,the story is just there to give a reason for a lot of blood and limbs flying all over.
Seriously,it's not like people don't see blood and some sort of violence everyday around them or on the news and such.

ranlynn
May 14th, 2007, 09:32 AM
Hey folks! I've recently started watching this show, and it looks pretty good. There is just one problem.

I'm ok with regular violence, I mean, a guy kicking the crap out of another, or some broken nose and bleeding, that's fine by me. However, I hear there are cut-up hands and opened-up heads? That might be a little too much for me.

Still, I'm not going to let that stop me watching this thing, but I'll need to prepare for them. I know the cut-up hand happens in the pilot, but when does the opened-up heads appear? And, are there any other gory scenes like these?

Thanks guys!

Well, there has been a little bit of 'gore' but honestly I've seen more body parts & innards on 'Crossing Jordan' & 'NCIS' than on 'Heroes'.

JayShadow
May 14th, 2007, 09:37 AM
People do get mangled up a bit, but they usually set it up in advance so it's not like a horror movie where someone might just randomly get something severed or decapitated out of nowhere. There is usually enough time to look away and wait for them to heal. Every time Claire shows up in early episodes she's gonna either do something bad to herself or something bad is gonna happen to her. Anytime Peter falls it's not gonna be a pretty landing. When Sylar opens up people's heads, they don't show the actual act of him popping their heads off, they just kinda imply it followed sometimes by the body without a top of the head on the floor, but they don't really focus on it usually. So there is some violent stuff, but it seems pretty easy to avoid, although I haven't personally tried. You just gotta keep in mind that other more grounded shows often tease something bad happening to one of the main characters, but then don't do it. Heroes probably will do it if the character will be able to come back from it.

Doze
May 14th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Well, there has been a little bit of 'gore' but honestly I've seen more body parts & innards on 'Crossing Jordan' & 'NCIS' than on 'Heroes'.
Agreed!

PG15
May 14th, 2007, 10:38 AM
Well, there has been a little bit of 'gore' but honestly I've seen more body parts & innards on 'Crossing Jordan' & 'NCIS' than on 'Heroes'.

Seriously?!

Wow, I've been missing out. Anyway, I got a few things to watch before I get to Heroes, but rest assured, I'll be joining you guys for Season 2! :D

Doze
May 14th, 2007, 11:29 AM
Seriously?!

Wow, I've been missing out. Anyway, I got a few things to watch before I get to Heroes, but rest assured, I'll be joining you guys for Season 2! :DThat sound great! Just so you know you can watch the show on line (in the US) at: http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/heroes.shtml

And I reading the online comis is well worth your time at: http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novels_library.shtml

Enjoy!

PG15
May 14th, 2007, 01:40 PM
I've got the episodes, but those comics are cool, thanks! :D

So, how are they related to the show? Are they the actual episodes in comic form or backstory that we don't get to on the show?

Buddhawasanancient
May 14th, 2007, 01:53 PM
I've got the episodes, but those comics are cool, thanks! :D

So, how are they related to the show? Are they the actual episodes in comic form or backstory that we don't get to on the show?

The comics are great. They fit into the storyline of the show as supplemental material. They are released every week and usually either come before the episode or after the episode in chronological order. DEFINITELY worth a look each week...

Doze
May 15th, 2007, 03:57 AM
I've got the episodes, but those comics are cool, thanks! :D Glad I could help!


So, how are they related to the show? Are they the actual episodes in comic form or backstory that we don't get to on the show?What Buddhawasanancient said! ^^ :cool:

Lightbane
May 20th, 2007, 01:21 AM
That show does have quite a bit of gore like when Claire comes out of the house all nuked and looking like a burnt steak. The galss being pulled out of Peter's head, the mech lying all mangled after Syler stole her brain

hyzmarca
May 20th, 2007, 10:05 AM
People who think that Heroes is gory don't know what gore is.

I strongly recommend watching Braindead (also known as Dead Alive) for some desensitization.

Really, the make-up and special effects associated with severe injury on Heroes is so cutesy as to stretch credibility somewhat. The autopsy scene, in particular, lacked real gore.

PG15
May 20th, 2007, 02:28 PM
I don't know what disturbs me more; that I'm so sensitive compared to some of you guys, or that you guys are so disensitized to violence. :p


That show does have quite a bit of gore like when Claire comes out of the house all nuked and looking like a burnt steak. The galss being pulled out of Peter's head, the mech lying all mangled after Syler stole her brain

How did Claire compare to when Vala was roasted in "Avalon Part 2"? About the same, worse?

RainbowMist
May 20th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Probably a little worse (although I haven't seen Avalon for awhile) but it only lasted for a few seconds. Also, if your sensitive to gore, watch out for a few of Niki's early scenes too.

Doze
May 20th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Really, the make-up and special effects associated with severe injury on Heroes is so cutesy as to stretch credibility somewhat. The autopsy scene, in particular, lacked real gore.
I have been on my share of autopsies. The seen was very real to what a real autopsy looks like. If done right, an autopsy should have no gore, no squirting fluids to it. Only in Hollywood is there gore in that procedure. I feel that scene was very tasteful

Trek_Girl42
May 22nd, 2007, 12:49 PM
How did Claire compare to when Vala was roasted in "Avalon Part 2"? About the same, worse?
I'd actually say it's about the same- the only difference is that we see it a bit longer. On Heroes they don't go out of their way to make it gory, they're more on the lines of just-enough-to-make-it-credible-but-not-enough-to-scare-the-audience-away. I still think that the mangled hand in the first episode is the farthest they've gone with the gore. Even the severed heads are mostly shadow.

Pitry
May 23rd, 2007, 10:05 AM
The bloody violence, the gore, the number of times certain character(s) have sufferd terminal dislocations, it all adds a sense of realism to a show about mutant superheroes! xD :D

No, it doesn't. :P

X-3-0-2
July 19th, 2007, 08:45 PM
Seriously, how is this stuff being allowed at primetime?!

I've no idea but apparently season 2 is also going to have a lot of gore

the fifth man
July 19th, 2007, 08:53 PM
I've no idea but apparently season 2 is also going to have a lot of gore

If done well, and not too over-the-top, gore works just fine with me.

the fifth man
July 19th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Wow, I've been missing out. Anyway, I got a few things to watch before I get to Heroes, but rest assured, I'll be joining you guys for Season 2! :D

That's great to hear. Glad to have you aboard, PG15.:)

Easter Lily
July 19th, 2007, 10:14 PM
First off Welcome PG15, You'll love the show.

This king of stuff has been in comic book for some time and because itís a comic book turned in to a TV show there is no big surprise here for me. There has not been anything done as a 'shock value' violence in the show has at no time have it thought 'now that was not needed'. It always has a reason and they just donít imply what is going on, they show it. Even when Claire had her flesh burnt off by Ted, it was done tastefully and it was what it was.

I watched a fair bit of anime in my time so I don't think anything quite compares in terms of gore. Ninja Scroll would up there as something pretty visceral.

I think blood and gore has its place... you can't have people being cut up or hurting themselves without seeing any blood... it'll be a bit too cartoonish. I agree with Doze though, I don't think the show exploits gore for the sake of it.

cheese
July 20th, 2007, 06:25 AM
The use of violence and gore in Heroes is very well done, it always services the story and never pushes things too far for the sake of it.

telpethoniel
May 9th, 2008, 04:42 AM
I, personally didn't find the stuff in Nikki/Jessica's scenes to be that bad cause they were all in shadow and it looked movieish. The first ep with Sylar in it was waaay creepy, but then I watched some other stuff the actor who plays him had done, totally took the edge off it and subliminally separated the actor from the character. 10ish episodes later...he's rather cute LOL I like how they've got a baddie like Sylar...he's not all woosie and easily defeated, he's an actual threat.

SgaIsBad
August 30th, 2008, 10:31 AM
the show is good at keeping it p-13