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monkey_man132
April 8th, 2007, 06:04 PM
Introduction:Hi everyone, I have seen several speculation threads about the Ancient Warship Tria and its location/condition after "Return Part 1." I felt that it would be better to make one big thread where you can discuss anything you've thought of the Tria than having a bunch of small disorganized threads.

Predicament:In "Return Part 1" the Daedalus encounters a Lantean warship named Tria, its commander Helia takes control of Atlantis after being transported to Atlantis.


However, nothing is known or mentioned of the ship after the episode or the rest of season 3. What could season 4 have in store for the Tria? Will we ever see it again?



Rules for Thread:I can't think of any.

Discuss and speculate away!!! :cool:

Steve_the_Wraith
April 8th, 2007, 06:10 PM
The Tria was badly damaged - possessing no hyperdrive at all - after the Ancients were rescued the ship was probably abandoned in the void between galaxies.

It could play part in future. but I doubt it, its basically a wreck

Ripple in Space
April 8th, 2007, 06:17 PM
Slap on an Asgard Hyperdrive, and plug in a few Asgard Neutrino Generators, and it's good to go.

The Sweet Guy
April 8th, 2007, 06:31 PM
Apparently TPTB don't even bother destroying the ships the next episode now, they just forget about them. I'm more curious about the Wraith cruiser from Submersion myself, it would be kinda interesting if they used that ship to sneak past Wraith controlled areas or something.

monkey_man132
April 8th, 2007, 07:06 PM
WHO CHANGED THE NAME OF MY THREAD!?ITS NOT ABOUT A SOON TO PREMIER EPISODE, ITS A SPECULATION THREAD ABOUT THE STATUS OF A WARSHIP MENTIONED IN THE SHOW!!!!!!MOD WHO CHANGED THE NAME OF MY THREAD- CHANGE IT BACK!!.....pretty please :)

Mitchell82
April 8th, 2007, 07:08 PM
The ship was a wreck after the battle with the Asurans. It could have been repaired, and if so I'd love to see it.

Gen_J_O'Neill
April 8th, 2007, 07:44 PM
^ wasnt it left at Midway! I thought the daedalus transported the ancients back to atantis and it was only a puddle jumper that was sent to engage the Asurans. Maybe not but thats what I thought.

PG15
April 8th, 2007, 07:46 PM
That's exactly what happened.

We'll see what S4 will bring; after all, we thought they'd forgotten about Niam after Progeny, but he returned for Return Part 2. You never know with them sneaky TPTB at Bridge. ;)

ur uncle urgo
April 8th, 2007, 07:49 PM
im pretty sure it was just a wee little puddle jumper that told the asurans to turn back and not a warship. if that was the case i think the little red dot would have stayed lit up longer.

Gen_J_O'Neill
April 8th, 2007, 09:06 PM
^^ ^ cool, so it wasnt just me! :)

Maybe well get to see Midway again this season. Id love for a shot of the completed station up close. Then they zoom out and pan around to reveal the Tria docked on the other side! That would be AWESOME! :P

Mitchell82
April 8th, 2007, 10:39 PM
^^ ^ cool, so it wasnt just me! :)

Maybe well get to see Midway again this season. Id love for a shot of the completed station up close. Then they zoom out and pan around to reveal the Tria docked on the other side! That would be AWESOME! :P

Indeed it would. Though Mckay would likely wreck it.

ACharmedAsgard
April 9th, 2007, 03:55 AM
I think we may see the Tria in Season 4 because this new enemy they are talking about has somehow gained a Lantean Warship and we are missing one.....coinsidence?

Gen_J_O'Neill
April 9th, 2007, 04:55 AM
^ lol, i was just thinking the exact same thing! but isnt their warship suppose to different from an aurora class?

ashman2
April 9th, 2007, 12:36 PM
A couple of weeks ago on Joseph Mallozzi's blog someone asked if we'd see it again, and he said, 'maybe'. While I understand that's not a yes or a no, I'd like to think it's a yes. I'm hoping that we actually keep that one, provided we can fix it. I'd like for us to get an ancient warship and keep it, fully working, full power, weapons, the lot. Everytime we get something good, like a ZPm or a aship, we lost it

Buddhawasanancient
April 9th, 2007, 12:56 PM
Everytime we get something good, like a ZPm or a ship, we lost it

That's just the way it goes when writing a show like this. Too much power, like a few ZPM's or a fully functioning ancient warship shifts the balance of power too much in our direction making battles with the Wraith or Asurans practical cakewalks. In order to keep the suspense and feeling of peril, we must always be at a slight disadvantage. But that being said I whole heartedly agree and would LOVE to see Atlantis in possesion of a fully functioning ancient warship. I just doubt it will ever happen.

Mitchell82
April 9th, 2007, 07:50 PM
That's just the way it goes when writing a show like this. Too much power, like a few ZPM's or a fully functioning ancient warship shifts the balance of power too much in our direction making battles with the Wraith or Asurans practical cakewalks. In order to keep the suspense and feeling of peril, we must always be at a slight disadvantage. But that being said I whole heartedly agree and would LOVE to see Atlantis in possesion of a fully functioning ancient warship. I just doubt it will ever happen.

I doubt it too, but I agree on the power issue as well as technical. We can't have a huge advantage or it'd look way too easy.

VSHARMA
April 9th, 2007, 10:25 PM
The ship was a wreck after the battle with the Asurans. It could have been repaired, and if so I'd love to see it.

Doubt it. I say wrecked

genius21
April 9th, 2007, 10:39 PM
simple tactical thinking will reveal to you that one ship don't make any difference.

one ancient warship against all those hive ships then we have the asurans that can really build ships fast.

even now with the asgard knowleadge we are not all powerfull.

remember what they said one on one the lantian ships were more powerfull but when they came with more ships the wraith were stronger.

we dont even know how fast wraith can build ships.

then we have the way of fighting there we are smarter but wars are not fought on the ground alone they will also need space ships that's evolution while the gate will be main travel you can't ignore ships.

so that we will be to powerfull can be put to rest even now we are in a bind with the numbers game alone.

Steven_the_Atlantean
April 9th, 2007, 11:29 PM
simple tactical thinking will reveal to you that one ship don't make any difference.

one ancient warship against all those hive ships then we have the asurans that can really build ships fast.

even now with the asgard knowleadge we are not all powerfull.

remember what they said one on one the lantian ships were more powerfull but when they came with more ships the wraith were stronger.

we dont even know how fast wraith can build ships.

then we have the way of fighting there we are smarter but wars are not fought on the ground alone they will also need space ships that's evolution while the gate will be main travel you can't ignore ships.

so that we will be to powerfull can be put to rest even now we are in a bind with the numbers game alone.


True, which leaves us to the conclusion of does the ancient war ship contain mini vessels or drones that we can take that can actually be in great use. ( but I doubt there will be that much drones, after all they were in a war just like Atlantis, and ppft we saw how much was left, enough to sweep of some darts) no point of destroying an ancient war ship when we no its going to get destroyed sooner or later. But then again thanks to the Orion we stopped the hive reaching earth so if it’s “desperate times calls for desperate measures” that’s where the ship takes place.

garhkal
April 9th, 2007, 11:51 PM
I doubt it too, but I agree on the power issue as well as technical. We can't have a huge advantage or it'd look way too easy.

How will they retcon the Oddessy now we have got all those asgard upgrades?

genius21
April 10th, 2007, 02:07 AM
if the asurans or the wraith come with more then 2 or 3 ships the oddesy will be gone, yes the oddesy also has a zpm and that was part that make it possible to destroy the ori ships but at the asgard planet there was one ship left that was a win but the oddesy was almost destroyed.

so when we make more of those type of weapons and upgrades put them on the other ships then they wont be that powerfull and atlantis is at a great disadvantage comes back to numbers.

even if we had ten aurora type ships were not powerfull first they can't man those ships doing repairs are not easy and if they come with twenty then the 9 will be gone.

we will be the underdog and maybe forever atleast the first few thousand years.

ACharmedAsgard
April 10th, 2007, 03:34 AM
^ lol, i was just thinking the exact same thing! but isnt their warship suppose to different from an aurora class?

It wasn't actually stated whether or not the Tria was the same class as the Aurora. So the Tria could well be the new enemy's ship :D

It would mean two questions answered

Ripple in Space
April 10th, 2007, 03:09 PM
^^ ^ cool, so it wasnt just me! :)

Maybe well get to see Midway again this season. Id love for a shot of the completed station up close. Then they zoom out and pan around to reveal the Tria docked on the other side! That would be AWESOME! :P

The camera wouldn't have to pan around much. The midway station is like 50% bigger than a Puddle Jumper. The Tria is a giant Warship, it would be like an ant standing next to the Eiffel Tower.


if the asurans or the wraith come with more then 2 or 3 ships the oddesy will be gone, yes the oddesy also has a zpm and that was part that make it possible to destroy the ori ships but at the asgard planet there was one ship left that was a win but the oddesy was almost destroyed.

I disagree with those numbers....

IMO:
Odyssey < 4 Ori BattleCruisers
Odyssey < 1 Aurora Class Warship
Odyssey < 7 Wraith Hiveships (w/ 14 Cruiser Escorts & Hundreds of Darts)

Semmer
April 10th, 2007, 11:38 PM
Has anyone thought of asking from writers themselves?

ur uncle urgo
April 11th, 2007, 06:36 PM
ok nose goes on doing that