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    Shouln't Atlantis have auto-align? (most definetly lots of spoilers)

    If its such an extremely advanced city and its capable of hyperspace travel its should have some sort of anywhere-in-the-universe auto aligning gate.Then after "First Strike" there shouldn't be any problem.I mean...what did Lanteans do when the ship flew?

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    Not neccessarily. It is unlikely that what has happened to the team is something that never happened to the Ancients, so no need for a redundant system.

    The other theory could be the fact that the control tower was damaged, so that could also be an issue.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Master_Templar View Post
      Not neccessarily. It is unlikely that what has happened to the team is something that never happened to the Ancients, so no need for a redundant system.

      The other theory could be the fact that the control tower was damaged, so that could also be an issue.
      True.. There are a lot of things i would ike to see them having, but cannot envision the ancients usng/needig that, due to not having the sitution come up..

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        #4
        still...the Tau'ri have more backups and "just-in-cases' than they have.Pfft they're supposed to be smart.

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          #5
          Originally posted by monkey_man132 View Post
          still...the Tau'ri have more backups and "just-in-cases' than they have.Pfft they're supposed to be smart.
          The Ancients didn't do backups, they never envisioned things going wrong. The gates were designed to be used with a DHD so non of the problems the SGC have faced would have come up just like they always thought the city would have enough ZPM's.
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            #6
            Originally posted by monkey_man132 View Post
            still...the Tau'ri have more backups and "just-in-cases' than they have.Pfft they're supposed to be smart.
            Thats just the militaryway... Redundancies to the reduntant backups and so on..

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              #7
              TPTB made the Ancients dumb.

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                #8
                Originally posted by monkey_man132 View Post
                still...the Tau'ri have more backups and "just-in-cases' than they have.Pfft they're supposed to be smart.
                Yeah, but we screw stuff up all the time, the Ancients just deactivated and left behind devices that didn't work (so they didn't need to fix things)


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                  #9
                  Originally posted by monkey_man132 View Post
                  TPTB made the Ancients dumb.
                  Are the Ancients "dumb", or are the humans (even McKay) not smart enough to locate / use backup systems which Atlantis may be equipped with.

                  To my mind, Atlantis might have systems and controls which were simple and obvious to the Lanteans, but which McKay etc haven't yet discovered, or don't know what they do. Humans can teach themselves to use, say, a computer keyboard and the various keys on it, but unless someone told them about particular key combinations (like, say, ctrl + alt + del), a person might use a keyboard for years without accidentally coming across that combination.

                  To my mind, Atlantis could be similar (only, you know, a lot more complicated). The expedition members have learned how to use some controls in Atlantis, but pushing buttons and seeing what happens only works for so long, and the Ancient database is so large that they haven't found a "Beginners technical manual" yet. It's not a matter that the Ancients were "dumb"... it's that they took their knowledge for granted, and assumed that any humans who came to Atlantis after they left would be at a similar technological level to themselves.
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                    #10
                    there no point know since we know they eventaully get rescued
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Calhoun View Post
                      Are the Ancients "dumb", or are the humans (even McKay) not smart enough to locate / use backup systems which Atlantis may be equipped with.

                      To my mind, Atlantis might have systems and controls which were simple and obvious to the Lanteans, but which McKay etc haven't yet discovered, or don't know what they do. Humans can teach themselves to use, say, a computer keyboard and the various keys on it, but unless someone told them about particular key combinations (like, say, ctrl + alt + del), a person might use a keyboard for years without accidentally coming across that combination.

                      To my mind, Atlantis could be similar (only, you know, a lot more complicated). The expedition members have learned how to use some controls in Atlantis, but pushing buttons and seeing what happens only works for so long, and the Ancient database is so large that they haven't found a "Beginners technical manual" yet. It's not a matter that the Ancients were "dumb"... it's that they took their knowledge for granted, and assumed that any humans who came to Atlantis after they left would be at a similar technological level to themselves.
                      True

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                        #12
                        It probably has back-ups but we can't find them

                        In the Return the Ancients locked down the city using a device mckay had never discovered.

                        "Their victims knew no peace until the Ori came and whispered to them"Sleep for the end draws near"and on that day all will rejoice when the Ori come and lay them low. "

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by monkey_man132 View Post
                          TPTB made the Ancients dumb.
                          Not dumb, just arrogant.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by monkey_man132 View Post
                            If its such an extremely advanced city and its capable of hyperspace travel its should have some sort of anywhere-in-the-universe auto aligning gate.Then after "First Strike" there shouldn't be any problem.I mean...what did Lanteans do when the ship flew?
                            The problem is that Altantis dropped out of hyperspace without warning, and so McKay doesn't know where they are. Similar to what happened to the Promethius in SG-1 "Promethius", they couldn't plot a course home because they didn't know where they were.

                            Even the Atlantis gate needs a Point of Origin, even if it is built in to the console as an "Activator" button. This must be changed to correspond to the new location or the gate will not activate.

                            Without knowing the physical location of the gate in relation to the rest of the galaxy (aka Point of Origin), you cannot dial out.

                            It is possible that Atlantis does have a system to look at the stars and determine the location (which the Ancients would have needed originally to allocate the dialling rules for Pegasus), but we just don't know how to use it yet.

                            Even a way of sending a subspace transmission from the gate to the other gates in the area might be possible (but I think this would require knowing the PoO, as in a correlative update, when you need to know the previous address to calculate the new one).


                            For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Øsiris øf the Øri View Post
                              It probably has back-ups but we can't find them

                              In the Return the Ancients locked down the city using a device mckay had never discovered.
                              True dat...
                              Heck how many times have we been standing infront of the gate,and not noticed that the floor there hid a podium..?

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