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Vala_M
March 14th, 2007, 01:23 PM
Will they end up going back to Lantea since they dropped out of hyperspace way ahead of schedule? It would take less power to go back then continue. Assuming they can fix it in time? I somehow doubt that they'll end up on a new planet, plus, Lantea was the equivalent of Earth, except with much less land, the planet the Ancients lived on, it had the underwater geothermal station and who knows what else. Maybe with the Odyssey's upgrade, they can come and destroy the Asuran satellite weapon or something.

Vala,

SaberBlade
March 14th, 2007, 01:46 PM
Going back to the planet would be suicide.

For all the know, the Asurian weapon could be kept there to detect if they return or if anyone tries to shoot down the weapon at a later date.

If anything, they could try finding a planet more closer to their location but that's assuming they even have the power to enter hyperdrive at all. Either way, I can't see them returning because it's too dangerous and all the wrong people know about it's existance and location.

garhkal
March 14th, 2007, 07:36 PM
Going back to the planet would be suicide.

For all the know, the Asurian weapon could be kept there to detect if they return or if anyone tries to shoot down the weapon at a later date.

If anything, they could try finding a planet more closer to their location but that's assuming they even have the power to enter hyperdrive at all. Either way, I can't see them returning because it's too dangerous and all the wrong people know about it's existance and location.

True dat... but what about that rig platform underwater.. are they going to go back and get it?

jenks
March 14th, 2007, 07:42 PM
True dat... but what about that rig platform underwater.. are they going to go back and get it?

They wrecked it.

Vala_M
March 14th, 2007, 08:23 PM
How exactly did they "wreck it"? From firing the stardrive or the Asuran beam weapon hitting it after Atlantis was gone?

Vala,

SaberBlade
March 14th, 2007, 08:37 PM
How exactly did they "wreck it"? From firing the stardrive or the Asuran beam weapon hitting it after Atlantis was gone?

Vala,

How wasn't stated, but it was suggested that using it to power the stardrive would "wreck it", but that doesn't necessarily mean they destroyed it. It is possible that the platform is still there but damaged from working at it's maximum capacity while the stardrive was being used and the power cable between city and platform was cut.

Ripple in Space
March 14th, 2007, 09:16 PM
How wasn't stated, but it was suggested that using it to power the stardrive would "wreck it", but that doesn't necessarily mean they destroyed it. It is possible that the platform is still there but damaged from working at it's maximum capacity while the stardrive was being used and the power cable between city and platform was cut.

Having its power cable connected while Atlantis was flying off probably ripped it apart. No magnetic holder like on MacBooks, lol.

Maltrancko
March 15th, 2007, 01:26 AM
short answer

no

long answer

probably not

Freek
March 15th, 2007, 05:12 AM
With the ending of SE10 SG-1, they could probably
Blow the whole thing up with the new Asgard beam weapons

FE_fanboy
March 15th, 2007, 05:56 AM
spoilers for unending

I hope we will get (almost) nothing from the Asgard technology on atlantis so we won't be blowing up enemies to easy.

carterrocks
March 15th, 2007, 06:42 AM
You know Sam is going to rescue McKay hehe

J_B
March 15th, 2007, 06:57 AM
Will they end up going back to Lantea since they dropped out of hyperspace way ahead of schedule? It would take less power to go back then continue. Assuming they can fix it in time? I somehow doubt that they'll end up on a new planet, plus, Lantea was the equivalent of Earth, except with much less land, the planet the Ancients lived on, it had the underwater geothermal station and who knows what else. Maybe with the Odyssey's upgrade, they can come and destroy the Asuran satellite weapon or something.

Vala,

They are only a few hours away from the new planet.

They only have 24 hours of power left at current consumption rate, hence fire up the Star Drive & that will shorten exponentially. Therefore Lantia may be further away that the new planet. Meaning it would take more power to get back. Not to mention the fact that the Sat weapon is probably still lying in orbit waiting to see. So if they came back, power would almost be gone from the ZPM, it would be detected by the sat just like Apollo. Then a few mins of pounding on the shield & it would be goodnight sweetheart.

The only thing back there that is of interest to them in the Wraith Cruiser. However they could take a PJ will all necessary equipment then fix it from under the ocean. Fly it up & to another planet & plank it for later use. Don't want to risk taking it directly to the new home incase it's followed by Asurans or Wraith.

Not to mention Michael knows the location of the planet, as do the Genii etc. So for numerous reasons it's too dangerous to go back.

Shepperd
March 23rd, 2007, 06:50 AM
They can not back, based on they can not use the sensor and they do not known where they are.

VSHARMA
March 23rd, 2007, 07:16 AM
Will they end up going back to Lantea since they dropped out of hyperspace way ahead of schedule? It would take less power to go back then continue. Assuming they can fix it in time? I somehow doubt that they'll end up on a new planet, plus, Lantea was the equivalent of Earth, except with much less land, the planet the Ancients lived on, it had the underwater geothermal station and who knows what else. Maybe with the Odyssey's upgrade, they can come and destroy the Asuran satellite weapon or something.

Vala,

I doubt that they will go they to live especially now that the Asurans know that they live they. But I can see one reasons to go back to visit via Stargate.

Spoilers for 'Submerged'

They is a Wraith Curser under water near the Drilling Station that MAY able to Salvage.

marty2006
March 23rd, 2007, 07:42 AM
No they wont go back. Also the drilling platform was destroyed they had a cable connecting it to atlantis and when they took off it ripped the station apart, even mckay said to sheppard they would "wreck it" in the episode. I believe mckays words were "oh hell yea" when sheppard asked if they would destroy it.

J_B
March 23rd, 2007, 08:49 AM
No they wont go back. Also the drilling platform was destroyed they had a cable connecting it to atlantis and when they took off it ripped the station apart, even mckay said to sheppard they would "wreck it" in the episode. I believe mckays words were "oh hell yea" when sheppard asked if they would destroy it.

That's correct but not about the umbilical causing it. That would only rip out of Atlantis when it took off, which it would be designed to do, a cable could not wreck something the size of a drilling station. The reason it would be wrecked because they turned it up to full power, then evacuated all the staff from it. Nobody would have been on it when Atlantis took off because they would have been left behind. So the station will have been running at full power giving out all this power instantly, which was way quicker than normal. Then there was nobody on the station to regulate the power distribution etc in a safe & efficient manner, so could back it down after Atlantis had been given the boost. With nobody there to back it down & turn it off it would burn itself out, resulting in them runing it.

Sure with enough resources they could repair it as it's not like deep sea drilling is new to the human race. It would be a good thing to have as a backup. Especially without the ability to create ZPM's. Although I'm sure it'll never be mentioned again, other than perhaps if they go down to resurface the thing found in 'Submersion'. They may show you a quick glimpse of the ruined station.

However since Asurans know of it, then seeing what their beam could do to a ZPM. The drilling station could not provide anywhere near enough power to compensate for another attack. The only way they would ever go back was for the 'Submersion' thing thatw as left behind. However if they get to keep the stuff found in 'Unending', then there is never any need to go back for it at all.

Only sad thing about leaving the planet was leaving the whales behind. Perhaps they could build cases inside the 304's, beam them up & transport them to the new planet for a little bit of companionship! :cool:

The Prophet
March 23rd, 2007, 08:55 AM
Only sad thing about leaving the planet was leaving the whales behind. Perhaps they could build cases inside the 304's, beam them up & transport them to the new planet for a little bit of companionship! :cool:

:D

The new Gate adress too, I have trouble with learning new phone numbers! :p

koffydwerg
March 23rd, 2007, 10:07 AM
i dont think the will go back because there are to many reasons not to..
it would be cool to see the asgard tech in atlantis with it they would own the wraith..maby not the asaurans but still. anyone know when seaons 4 is going to air?

MathiasE
March 23rd, 2007, 01:03 PM
Really doubt they'll go back since there's to much at stake for that.
Many knows that location, the asurans have a sateliteweapon in orbit readon to lay out some more devastation and if it were to be destroyed somehow im sure more would be launched there.
Can't really see any reason to go back there either unless they left some people behind on the mainland and if they did they should just go there quick and beam them out and head for the new location which should be held secret to anyone execept allies.


And to go a bit offtopic: (actually after writing all of it i see it's way offtopic :D)

Hoping to see some more Atlantis expeditions instead of all those offworld expiditions in S4, sure they need to go hunt some more ZPMs, but why draw all that Wraithattention to them without any effective means to protect themselfes?
The Atlantismission were to uncover the secrets of Atlantis and the ancients and yet all they seem to do is go offworld fighting Waiths and Asurans.

Loosing Weir is not all that bad tbh, i dont think she brought much to the series, perhaps if they actually focused on Atlantis instead of offworld then maybe she could have done more good.
As for bringing Carter to Atlantis i'm not sure what to think as we dont yet know what role she will have there, but whatever role im sure i'd like Daniel Jackson more in Atlantis since he is after all the Tau'ri expert on Ancients.

And something i was thinking of, of course it doesnt do much good now that both Asurans and Wraith have learned about the location of Earth, but why did they even keep Earth's stargate adress in the database? I'm sure the management of the expedition could have kept the adress in their heads instead of having it in the database?
And as for adresses to other planets in the Milkyway, why even bring them to Atlantis when they need as much power to go to as Earth? Just puts a whole lot of worlds in danger for no reason at all :D


And same question as the person above me, anyone know when S4 starts airing? I wondered for a few days if i should watch the S3 finale and decided to do it which im now regretting since i hate cliffhangers like that one. Ok for 1 week or so, but not if S4 is like 6 months away =)

Maltrancko
March 23rd, 2007, 01:16 PM
And something i was thinking of, of course it doesnt do much good now that both Asurans and Wraith have learned about the location of Earth, but why did they even keep Earth's stargate adress in the database? I'm sure the management of the expedition could have kept the adress in their heads instead of having it in the database?
And as for adresses to other planets in the Milkyway, why even bring them to Atlantis when they need as much power to go to as Earth? Just puts a whole lot of worlds in danger for no reason at all :D



Just to clarify this, Earth was a Planet of the Ancients/Alterans, they would have it in their database well before the Atlantis expedition team got there. The management of the Atlantis team may not have figured out the location of Earth strictly out of the Atlantis Expedition's "Phone Book!" but more rather picked it up from a mission report or something, could have been anything really...?

MathiasE
March 23rd, 2007, 01:20 PM
Just to clarify this, Earth was a Planet of the Ancients/Alterans, they would have it in their database well before the Atlantis expedition team got there. The management of the Atlantis team may not have figured out the location of Earth strictly out of the Atlantis Expedition's "Phone Book!" but more rather picked it up from a mission report or something, could have been anything really...?

True, though they could have erased it (or at least tried to, knowing that the lantean database is incredibly reduntant they would propably fail :D)
But all it comes back to is that they have to destroy Atlantis before it falls into enemy hands for 2 reasons, location of earth and the fact that it's currently the only working stargate between the 2 galaxies. Making sure the location of earth is kept hidden then the fact that that gate is capable of traveling to Milkyway doesnt matter if noone knows how to get there :)

DelTrax1
March 23rd, 2007, 01:29 PM
I bet if they sent a flying twinky back to Lantea they would destroy that satlelite.

I think that they will never go back there in Season 4 ....I guess I will wait to find out.

Team SG-1*save the show*
March 23rd, 2007, 01:40 PM
You know Sam is going to rescue McKay hehe

this is why carter is going to atlantis. not to replace weir but to sort mckay out.:mckay: :lol:

koffydwerg
March 24th, 2007, 03:29 AM
yes i would love to see Mcay's face when he is not the smartest anymore in atlantis i would be a super team mcay carter and zelenka :P :lol:

Pharaoh Atem
March 24th, 2007, 03:30 AM
i miss the old planet it would be nice to go back but first we need to get rid of the weapon.

MathiasE
March 24th, 2007, 06:20 AM
i miss the old planet it would be nice to go back but first we need to get rid of the weapon.

As well as the Wraith and the Asurans since they both know the location of atlantis.

duckedtapedemon
March 24th, 2007, 03:25 PM
:D

The new Gate adress too, I have trouble with learning new phone numbers! :p

Well, if they did it in a falling apart Gould mothership, I'd say they'd be totally ripping off star trek on the whale plot rather than just partially.

The_Carpenter
March 24th, 2007, 03:55 PM
As everyone else on this thread has stated the planet Atlantis was on has been compromised. Therefore it would be folly to take Atlantis back there. However that it is not to say we could not have more episodes on that planet! The Daedalus or which ever ship they use in S4 could take them there :)

Athosian Death facilitator
March 24th, 2007, 04:41 PM
Will they end up going back to Lantea since they dropped out of hyperspace way ahead of schedule? It would take less power to go back then continue. Assuming they can fix it in time? I somehow doubt that they'll end up on a new planet, plus, Lantea was the equivalent of Earth, except with much less land, the planet the Ancients lived on, it had the underwater geothermal station and who knows what else. Maybe with the Odyssey's upgrade, they can come and destroy the Asuran satellite weapon or something.

Vala,

I like lantea and i do think they should go back but they need way better generaters for back up stuff.

MY IDEA IS:'
get the earth ships power core make a way bigger version slap it onto one of atlantis's side this and use back up power from that.

ADF

J_B
March 25th, 2007, 09:47 AM
I like lantea and i do think they should go back but they need way better generaters for back up stuff.

MY IDEA IS:'
get the earth ships power core make a way bigger version slap it onto one of atlantis's side this and use back up power from that.

ADF

It wouldn't work though!

The 304's power source only runs at something like 20/20% of maximum. Which is why it takes around 18 days to travel between Pegasus & MW. Whereas with a ZPM it turns it out to 100% & allows them to make it inside 4 days.

Think of the size of a 304. The power reactor is probably pretty big. Then consider Atlantis. It's goodness knows how much bigger than a 304, but it requires a ton more power. The shield drains a lot of power as does firing Drones, engaging the StarDrive etc.

So they would way have to scale up the 304's generator to make it be adequate for Atlantis. Most likely it would simply be too big to work into the city. A better bet would obviously be for them to use an Asgard power source. Probably would be not as powerful as a ZPM & a lot larger in size but it would be better than humans could do any day.

The most reasonable step would probably be to link up 100/1000 MKII Naquadah generators to power parts of the city. Such an amount would probably allow you to keep the shield up for a while if under attack. Would probably allow you to fly the city. Probably even fire all your Dronbes in an emergency but dobt it could do them all at the same time like a ZPM would allow you to.

Power is a scenario where the writers see ways to give scenarios & situations. If they could make ZPM's, then the city would never be under threat because the power was always there to withstand Wraith or Asuran attacks. That takes away the drama because the threat element has been significantly scaled down!

However if the writers were really good, they could give them the ability to make ZPM's & still make them have a power problem. So despite the humans being able to make the ultimate power source, they'd still be in the crapper if the enemy launched a proper attack on them.

The way to do this is thus: Give them the ability to make them, but have the science behind it be very troublesome where it takes months/years to make a full one. This is why Janis only gave Weir a list of 5 planets that had them, because they take a good while to create. This is why they were forced to abandon the city because they were down to their last 3 & didn't have the time to wait to create more because their current stock would have been depleted by then. Asurans don't have that problem because they've had 10,000 years to build up their supplies.

However I don't see them going that route, more likely it'll remain the current way where they struggle for power constantly. They deplete a ZPM, then find a convenient replacement shortly after. Atlantis gets cancelled & we never got to fully see the capabilities of the city or it's tech. Then they go make Atlantis movies to finish off the Asurans, Wraith etc. Hope I'm wrong with that though, but don't think I will be!

monkey_man132
March 25th, 2007, 10:31 AM
If you think about all the crazy things that goes on in Lantea for example: The storm that goes on every couple years,the sun that shoots out at the planet every now and then , and all the crazy whales and animals that live there.Now u ask yourself y would they go back there???