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    Asgard weapon against the Wraith

    Since we know the Asgard can transport ships, and even things as large as skyscrapers, I think a new weapon against the Wraith could be Asgard transporters, but in a different use.

    Darts go really fast, right? They're also made out of a fairly dense material, so why not beam up some moving darts, and re-materialize them aimed at a Wraith Hive? They'd surely do more damage than a railgun round, and we can't beam nukes aboard anymore.....
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    This falls in the same category as many other ideas that are cool but that they will never try because it's a tv show and they can't do everything.
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      Why bother with darts if you can beam them close enough to where they cannot pull up before they hit the Hive? If you could beam something that close to a Hive then they could just beam a nuke there and have it go off. Unfortunately, the most likely issue is that their jamming technology extends quite a bit around the ship so they can't get anything too much closer then if they tried getting missles past the darts.

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        why do that when we have this!!!!

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          But they can't replicate that weaponry yet.
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            Originally posted by Ripple in Space View Post
            Since we know the Asgard can transport ships, and even things as large as skyscrapers, I think a new weapon against the Wraith could be Asgard transporters, but in a different use.

            Darts go really fast, right? They're also made out of a fairly dense material, so why not beam up some moving darts, and re-materialize them aimed at a Wraith Hive? They'd surely do more damage than a railgun round, and we can't beam nukes aboard anymore.....
            That wouldn't work!

            The Wraith ships activate a jammer. Compare that to real life, where stuff like cell pohone jammers have various ranges that affect everything within the broadcast radius.

            A 304 jumps in, Wraith ship activates the jammer. The Darts are inside this range, hence they cannot beam through it to get any Darts. They would need to retreat then let the Darts come outside this zone, scoop them up then beam them back. Problem with that, is that they could only beam them to the edge of the jammer zone, which will be far enough away fromn the Wraith ship that the Dart has plenty of time to turn around.

            If it was that simple, then why bother with Darts. Why not simply fire a nuke towards a Wraith ship, beam it up & then transport it to a few m's from the Hive's hull. Re-Materialize it & there is no way a Dart would have enough time to intercept it before it impacts into the hull. It's the exact same principle as what you are proposing.

            Not sure what size the jammer range is, but the absolute minimum would be a few hundred m's. However given that the Hives are around 11km's long, then it's more likely to be something like a few km's around the ship. Thus giving them well enough time to get some Darts there or train their weapons on the bogey & take it out.

            Fact is it can't be done because the Wraith will always have ample time to intercept whatever is being beamed towards them.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Elite Anubis Guard View Post
              But they can't replicate that weaponry yet.
              They will soon . Unless TPTB do the classic and destroy all Asgard evidence .

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                #8
                What about, instead of beaming the darts into the path of the hive, why not use the beamer to clear a path for our missiles, since darts love crashing into them..

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                  Spoilers for 10x20:
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                  The new asgard weapons could take out an Ori ship in 6 hits, 4 to take out the shields and two to destroy the hull. Now with a hive being much larger, but unshielded i estimate it would take 4 hits to destroy a hive.
                  However with a rate of fire of 12 shots per minute, we could take on 3 hives in 1 minute. Now even at normal power source a deadalus can last 2-3 minutes under fire. With an Asgard core or a ZPM we could up that to 5-10 minute. With all three of our current deadali's upraded to the Legacy specs they would only need to take out 16 hives each to be able to destroy every wraith hive in the galaxy. If we can last even 5 minutes in battle with the wraith with all three deadali's upgraded then we could wipe out every single hive that remains in pegasus in one all out attack with reletive easy. It would take 15 minutes and three upgraded deadalus class ships towipe out the wraith. What need to do is find out exactly where all those ships are and hit them in one all out attack. If we had other deadalus classes then it would be even easier. If all three curent ships worked as a single unit they could would be able to decimate the wraith in a very short space of time.

                  Bottom line is that any way you spin this, the wraith are no longer a threat, the Asurians are even less of threat believe it or not:
                  Spoiler:
                  We have the Asgard database including the designs and instructions, we hope to build antireplicator satalites. Build one of those, or modify the deadalus like thor did in new order and send it to Asuris, job done. Then all wwe do is take away thier stargate so no more can come through from other planets. Then leave the satalite in orbit with a program to fire at will on everything.


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                    Legacy? You mean Odyssey?
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                      Doubt one can say the Wraith and the Asurans are out yet....


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                        #12
                        After seeing sg1 unending,I truly hope sga will be introduced with an upgraded apollo,mainly asgard weapons they used to destroy the oriships.
                        I know they couldnt use the weapons right away,but maybe they have rebuild there own with the help of asgard instructions or even better find a way to mask the asgard tech so they can use it with out the danger of being detected.It would all be a waste if we canot use the asgard knowlegde and tech.If the writters know what they are doing and truly know there stuff they have to keep the hope alive of us able to use and upgrade our ships.

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                          Originally posted by immhotep View Post
                          Spoilers for 10x20:
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                          We have the Asgard database including the designs and instructions, we hope to build antireplicator satalites. Build one of those, or modify the deadalus like thor did in new order and send it to Asuris, job done. Then all wwe do is take away thier stargate so no more can come through from other planets. Then leave the satalite in orbit with a program to fire at will on everything.
                          Earth was already developing PW-ARWs before they even got the Asgard database.
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                            #14
                            And now they dont need to build them, with an asgard core and computer system like the Daniel jackson had they should be able to modify the ship like thor did.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by garhkal View Post
                              What about, instead of beaming the darts into the path of the hive, why not use the beamer to clear a path for our missiles, since darts love crashing into them..
                              Lol, once again they can't beam within the jamming range. Hence Darts are inside it, so they can't be beamed away anywhere. Even if they were, 100's are launched all around the Hive, so there would be no way to get them all out anyhow.

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