Atlantis Hyperdrive

[Archaeis]

Atlantis is obviously very important to the Tauri, or we wouldn't be staying in Pegasus anymore, would we? It is also a spaceship capable of intergalactic travel. Given we procured the needed ZPMs to make Altantis fly back to Earth, would we? Or would it's drive be too slow to make it back in our lifetime?

[.jolinar.]

Atlantis is obviously very important to the Tauri, or we wouldn't be staying in Pegasus anymore, would we? It is also a spaceship capable of intergalactic travel. Given we procured the needed ZPMs to make Altantis fly back to Earth, would we? Or would it's drive be too slow to make it back in our lifetime?

We're staying in the pegasus galaxy for several reasons:
1. Atlantis doesn't have the power nessesary to get to Earth
2. It would be too dangerous with the threat of the Ori
3. There would be no Stargate Atlantis
4. even if we could reach Earth the ZPM's would be severely depleated
5. The peoples of the Pegasus Galaxy depend on us because of the wraith

[Tovny]

We're staying in the pegasus galaxy for several reasons:
1. Atlantis doesn't have the power nessesary to get to Earth
2. It would be too dangerous with the threat of the Ori
3. There would be no Stargate Atlantis
4. even if we could reach Earth the ZPM's would be severely depleated
5. The peoples of the Pegasus Galaxy depend on us because of the wraith

And cause we look so advanced against all the other races, so we ca brag about our technology.

[Tovny]

We're staying in the pegasus galaxy for several reasons:
1. Atlantis doesn't have the power nessesary to get to Earth
2. It would be too dangerous with the threat of the Ori
3. There would be no Stargate Atlantis
4. even if we could reach Earth the ZPM's would be severely depleated
5. The peoples of the Pegasus Galaxy depend on us because of the wraith

And cause we look so advanced against all the other races, so we can brag about our technology.

[fallenexile452]

Plus theres the fact that we are responsible for waking up the wraith so we have to stay until we at least defeat them.

[Anubis-]

And other wolrd knows after that, that there is live outside of tauri. And SGC stargate does not work after that anymore (two gates so close).

[Sicktem]

We of course assume that the ZPMs would be depleted trying to travel between galaxies, but since they ignored the whole issue and never even mentioned it we cannot know that for sure. But, the purpose of this thread was to ask if they would do it should they get the necessary ZPMs, so if it required 6 (for example) to make the trip then that is the goal they would have to aim for.

Also, Earth having to shut down their stargate since they can't use the Atlantis one and theirs at the same time should Atlantis return to Earth, isn't really an issue. With Sg-1 going off the air there is no longer a need for them to run operations out of both places and they were originally planning to move everything to Atlantis when they intended for Atlantis to be discovered on Earth back when they thought it would air right after Sg-1 went off the air. So, they probably just would've just moved the Egypt gate into Atlantis and now that Atlantis has it's own gate they would probably just pack up the Egyptian gate if Atlantis ever came home.

[kymeric]

3. There would be no Stargate Atlantis

Why do you say that? How is it any less of a show with atlantis parked in antartica or at the bottom of the atlantic ocean? You do know thats what they planned when they came up with the show right? It was only moved as to not conflict with SG1, which is done.

Contunity wise the atlantis gate has a DHD so it would be the dominant gate on earth. The Asurans can get to earth as easily as we can. Theres no reason atlantis cant remain undetected on earth by the public (cloak or submerging)

The only reason i think atlantis is still in pegasus is to tie up the wraith plotline. Because once they leave that becomes a non issue (unless wraith upgrade their drives)

[talyn2k1]

Why do you say that? How is it any less of a show with atlantis parked in antartica or at the bottom of the atlantic ocean? You do know thats what they planned when they came up with the show right? It was only moved as to not conflict with SG1, which is done.

Contunity wise the atlantis gate has a DHD so it would be the dominant gate on earth. The Asurans can get to earth as easily as we can. Theres no reason atlantis cant remain undetected on earth by the public (cloak or submerging)

The only reason i think atlantis is still in pegasus is to tie up the wraith plotline. Because once they leave that becomes a non issue (unless wraith upgrade their drives)

Its a bit risky having Atlantis on Earth for two simple reasons:
1. If they have a power failure, how do you explain a manhattan-sized city appearing in the middle of the ocean?
2. There are so many things in Atlantis that are still a complete mystery to us. What would happen if we activated something like the exploding-tumour maker and the affect encompassed the entire planet or just reached a land mass. There are too many unknowns within Atlantis to bring it to Earth, its safer where any effects of using its technology won`t effect the rest of the planet.

[Cap116]

I would imagine that the Atlantis Hyperdrive would more powerful than the current Tauri hyperdrives in the BC-304s. If Atlantis did come back to Earth, there would be two Stargates on Earth, so which one would you use. Also, the Wraith need to be exterminated before they come back to Earth.

[sparkygate]

Also if earth was to be destory (being therotical here) wouldn't we either migrate to atlantis or to an alpha site somewhere in MW

[fallenexile452]

Hyperdrives are only limited to a certain extent by their actual design, it seems that the amount of power available for it plays a far greater role. Also i suspect that Atlantis is capable of going quite fast look at the size of engines compared to the overall size of the city.

[Sicktem]

The only reason i think atlantis is still in pegasus is to tie up the wraith plotline. Because once they leave that becomes a non issue (unless wraith upgrade their drives)

Well there's a little more than that. The Pegasus galaxy has a lot more unknowns where as the Milky Way is a bit familar. If they want to hold on to Atlantis (no matter where it's located) they're going to have to salvage other Ancient technology. In the Pegasus galaxy they have the possibility of coming upon outposts, research stations, ships, other cities, etc. Where as in the Milky Way the Ancient's civilization died out 5-10 million years ago so most of it either fell apart in disrepair or was salvaged by another race (such as the Goa'uld). To find any of it they have to look extremely hard where as every time they go out of the gate in the Pegasus galaxy who knows what they can find and it's not just useful for keeping Atlantis alive as all of that stuff is valuable resources for Earth in their own right. Therefore having people work out of the Pegasus galaxy is a must since you can't just send people through a ZPM powered Stargate in the Milky Way and have them return back to the Milky Way when their mission is over. You need a base of operations that you can live out of and have a secure place for a ZPM. Atlantis is the one of the best sources for that at this time although it's always possible that when things calm down a bit in the future and Atlantis returns home (probably after the series is over) they can relocate to another outpost they find or settle for a primitive Earth built place akin to the Sg-1's back up sites.

Also, they've set up a lot more plotlines than just the Wraith. Although I'm sure people could do without hearing from the Genii or Telya's people, finding out how the Ancients lost the war, what happened to all of them who did not make it back to Earth, etc is a big part of things. And let's not forget Telya and Ronan. Does it really make sense for their characters to return to Earth? If the Wraith are 100%, completely defeated, then I can see Ronan being convinced to go with them since he has no other home, but since that's not going to happen he'll be more likely to want to hunt down any surviving Wraith. Telya, meanwhile, wouldn't leave her people and I do not see them moving to a Milky Way planet considering that they would be under a greater threat there than in a Wraith free Pegasus galaxy. Forget the Ori. Between the Jaffa, the Lucian alliance, and every rogue looking for more power in the wake of the Goa'uld's defeat, anyone can come along and cause them harm. In the Pegasus galaxy their biggest threat without the Wraith is the Genii trying to control other planets.

[Jarnin]

I'd just like to point out that the original concept of Stargate: Atlantis was supposed to take place in the Milky Way Galaxy, and the outpost in Antarctica was originally going to be Atlantis.
When SG-1 got renewed for an 8th season, and SciFi wanted a second Stargate series, Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper decided not to have the two series take place in the same galaxy. Atlantis was supposed to be this city with loads of ancient technology and weapons, and they didn't want SG-1 calling Atlantis for help every time they got in a bind, and vice versus. So they moved Atlantis to Pegasus, which they realized would open a whole new galaxy to explore.

It's sort of like how when converting Stargate: The Motion Picture to a television series, they moved Abydos to the Milky Way (in the movie it was in the Caelum galaxy), and said there were thousands of Stargate in the Milky Way (originally there was only supposed to be the one).

Another interesting tidbit is that the Asuran (replicators) were originally intended to be the primary bad guys of Atlantis. The problem was that in SG-1 season 8 the replicators were the bad guys, so having both series taking place in two different galaxies, and having the same sort of enemies was a bit too much. So they invented the Wraith. Once the replicators were defeated in the Milky Way, they introduced the Asuran in Pegasus and said "this is where the Replicators originated".

The major problem with bringing Atlantis back to the Milky Way is that somehow the wraith would have to be permanently defeated, and I can't see the writers wanting to do that any time soon. Perhaps in a few years, as they did with the Goa'uld, but not in the near future. And of course there are the Asuran, who would also have to be defeated due to the threat they pose to Earth.

So it's possible that Atlantis will one day return to the Milky Way, but it's not going to happen any time soon.

[Archaeis]

The major problem with bringing Atlantis back to the Milky Way is that somehow the wraith would have to be permanently defeated, and I can't see the writers wanting to do that any time soon. Perhaps in a few years, as they did with the Goa'uld, but not in the near future. And of course there are the Asuran, who would also have to be defeated due to the threat they pose to Earth.

So it's possible that Atlantis will one day return to the Milky Way, but it's not going to happen any time soon.

I think that it could happen pretty quickly after SG1 ends, since the humans will now have full access to Asgard tech.