there are so many threads on these subject I decided to start my own thread to coalesce all my views instead of responding to each thread separately.
First, why does this planet seem to have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to stargates . there's the antartica gate - which was placed on earth by the ancients- then there's Ra's gate - then Apophis gate. I read that people think that the gate of the Ancients and the Apophis gate were destroyed but if you ask me they're all in orbit around earth and Sol
Also we know that wormholes can't work in hyperspace (think the episodes where Apophis lost 2 ships attacking earth) so the one we flew away on piggy back on a death glider would've be deactivated after entering hyperspace right? so ship glider probably exploded and the gates floating in orbit out there
also why must the ancients be 100 milllions old? we know the ancients left earth on atlantis several million years ago (max 7). we know we saw the ayanna watching them depart and later she was frozen in a snowdrift. we know that the hologram of the sol system on proklarush showed earth continent configuration 30 million years ago according to jackson.
and that's it. 30 mil is the oldest date spoken. this fits in with the ayanna episode where sam speculated the antartica DHD COULD be as old as 50 million.
no mention of ancients evolving on earth and no fossil record proof. no mention of any seeding of their species that implies would later become the tauri. actually jackson mentions parallel evolution several times thruout the series concerning cultures and architecture. and anyone in school who studied evolution and archaelogy is familiar with convergent and parallel evolution. think marine life and egyptian and mayan/teotihucan pyramids. and human and ancient bilogical similarity. it's quite clear that goa'ulds spread humans thruout the milky way.
no big deal.
so my theory is that ancients evolved on some unknown world or galaxy, developed hyperdrive and colonized many worlds and galaxies, including terra atlantis the milky way, ida (othalla?) and pegasus.
also has anyone noticed that Atlantis survived from 7 million years ago to the present it must be REALLY well built! maybe it's meant to be a generational ship? also it was mentioned in an ep with daniel/sara/osiris that the lost city was the "origin of doorways" so presumably the stargates were invented (and manufactured?) at atlantis and the tech was shared with other ancients everywhere
maybe that was atlantis primary function? to build stargates? it is a city after all they must have repair and manufacturing places.
also we know that stargates are excluded as time travel devices from the ground hog day episdo where they have a separate time machine and I doubt the extension theory (dial more than one gate on a planet specifically) because 'the busy signal' we saw in the antartica ep would not be needed then.....no flashing lights and ground shaking like we saw......it would not be necessary the 7th chevron would simply not engage as we saw during several episodes.....i have a great idea for an episode for the 9th chevron which i'm writing as a script ......maybe i'll post it here
next - there seems to be confusion about the DHD's and stargates.....
I believe the point of origin glyph is present on ALL DHD's because we saw sam point it out to jack on the episode where they were sent to antartica. the only reason i can think that the SGC stargate was dominant was because the sam mentioned that after a few uses the antartica DHD depleted its' unknown power source(which i like to think is naquadria! ) and mcka y mentioned on a recent SGA episode that both sending and receiving stargates require some power for a wormhole to connect-hopefully not peculiar to pegasus gates. The big red button is the ENTER button as another poster mentioned......this allows the DHD to know when to dial a 7 or 8 or 9 symbol address. push six, seven or eight and point of origin and then hit big red button to open gate.
i wonder about the pegasus gates tho - it seems each ring 'box' has enough little lights in it accomadate as many are needed to illuminate any configuration constellation or maximum number for that galaxy. so how can u manually dial? perhaps from what i've seen on the show the 'boxes' on the ring remember the last know constellation they represented - so when you provide enough power they all display the constellation last present on them - so you then rotate the ring to the chevron you want.
but manual dialing seems by physically moving the ring seems to auto open wormholes after seven symbols are entered unless you have a big red button to hit enter or a cobbled together dialing device like Earth that signals the gate with an ENTER code........
regarding the torment of tantulus episode of the four races........i think jackson was only speculating that the four races were an alliance against the goa'uld or the wraith as some posters suggest. it was never stated that there allied and the meeting place was for this purpose. the 'meaning of life stuff' device indicates that this was a place where these species met to exchange knowledge not plot strategy...........as for the time frame who knows because the ancients had gate networks in many galaxies they might've chosen those 3 species because they felt they had the most potential just as the asgard felt about humans of earth..........
concerning ancient hologram lady saying the atlanteans returned to earth after fleeing pegasus there's no time frame determined yet tho I heard there's an new ep saying 10000 years. not sure what to say yet...........
First, why does this planet seem to have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to stargates . there's the antartica gate - which was placed on earth by the ancients- then there's Ra's gate - then Apophis gate. I read that people think that the gate of the Ancients and the Apophis gate were destroyed but if you ask me they're all in orbit around earth and Sol
Also we know that wormholes can't work in hyperspace (think the episodes where Apophis lost 2 ships attacking earth) so the one we flew away on piggy back on a death glider would've be deactivated after entering hyperspace right? so ship glider probably exploded and the gates floating in orbit out there
also why must the ancients be 100 milllions old? we know the ancients left earth on atlantis several million years ago (max 7). we know we saw the ayanna watching them depart and later she was frozen in a snowdrift. we know that the hologram of the sol system on proklarush showed earth continent configuration 30 million years ago according to jackson.
and that's it. 30 mil is the oldest date spoken. this fits in with the ayanna episode where sam speculated the antartica DHD COULD be as old as 50 million.
no mention of ancients evolving on earth and no fossil record proof. no mention of any seeding of their species that implies would later become the tauri. actually jackson mentions parallel evolution several times thruout the series concerning cultures and architecture. and anyone in school who studied evolution and archaelogy is familiar with convergent and parallel evolution. think marine life and egyptian and mayan/teotihucan pyramids. and human and ancient bilogical similarity. it's quite clear that goa'ulds spread humans thruout the milky way.
no big deal.
so my theory is that ancients evolved on some unknown world or galaxy, developed hyperdrive and colonized many worlds and galaxies, including terra atlantis the milky way, ida (othalla?) and pegasus.
also has anyone noticed that Atlantis survived from 7 million years ago to the present it must be REALLY well built! maybe it's meant to be a generational ship? also it was mentioned in an ep with daniel/sara/osiris that the lost city was the "origin of doorways" so presumably the stargates were invented (and manufactured?) at atlantis and the tech was shared with other ancients everywhere
maybe that was atlantis primary function? to build stargates? it is a city after all they must have repair and manufacturing places.
also we know that stargates are excluded as time travel devices from the ground hog day episdo where they have a separate time machine and I doubt the extension theory (dial more than one gate on a planet specifically) because 'the busy signal' we saw in the antartica ep would not be needed then.....no flashing lights and ground shaking like we saw......it would not be necessary the 7th chevron would simply not engage as we saw during several episodes.....i have a great idea for an episode for the 9th chevron which i'm writing as a script ......maybe i'll post it here
next - there seems to be confusion about the DHD's and stargates.....
I believe the point of origin glyph is present on ALL DHD's because we saw sam point it out to jack on the episode where they were sent to antartica. the only reason i can think that the SGC stargate was dominant was because the sam mentioned that after a few uses the antartica DHD depleted its' unknown power source(which i like to think is naquadria! ) and mcka y mentioned on a recent SGA episode that both sending and receiving stargates require some power for a wormhole to connect-hopefully not peculiar to pegasus gates. The big red button is the ENTER button as another poster mentioned......this allows the DHD to know when to dial a 7 or 8 or 9 symbol address. push six, seven or eight and point of origin and then hit big red button to open gate.
i wonder about the pegasus gates tho - it seems each ring 'box' has enough little lights in it accomadate as many are needed to illuminate any configuration constellation or maximum number for that galaxy. so how can u manually dial? perhaps from what i've seen on the show the 'boxes' on the ring remember the last know constellation they represented - so when you provide enough power they all display the constellation last present on them - so you then rotate the ring to the chevron you want.
but manual dialing seems by physically moving the ring seems to auto open wormholes after seven symbols are entered unless you have a big red button to hit enter or a cobbled together dialing device like Earth that signals the gate with an ENTER code........
regarding the torment of tantulus episode of the four races........i think jackson was only speculating that the four races were an alliance against the goa'uld or the wraith as some posters suggest. it was never stated that there allied and the meeting place was for this purpose. the 'meaning of life stuff' device indicates that this was a place where these species met to exchange knowledge not plot strategy...........as for the time frame who knows because the ancients had gate networks in many galaxies they might've chosen those 3 species because they felt they had the most potential just as the asgard felt about humans of earth..........
concerning ancient hologram lady saying the atlanteans returned to earth after fleeing pegasus there's no time frame determined yet tho I heard there's an new ep saying 10000 years. not sure what to say yet...........
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