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    Two Sam's in one universe

    redirect me to an existing thread if this has already been answered but

    back in season 6 i think it was sam went through the ancient miror i think it was to another dimension after staying there for a while she and her counterpart started experiencing pain caused by temporal displacement or something related. how come in atlantis :mckay and mrs miller when the cool rodney comes through the bridge between universes he doesn't experience the effects sam did???

    thanks.

    #2
    try season 3 but your right.

    That's actually quite a plot hole. the same thing should have happend to th mckays.
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      #3
      Doesn't the quantum flux thing only happen if the deminson are seperated by a big margin as pointed in series 9 of Sg-1, when all the Sg-1 came through.

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        #4
        Just another instance of sweeping something silly under the rug, a la the Zat disintegration ability.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Garth Claw View Post
          Doesn't the quantum flux thing only happen if the deminson are seperated by a big margin as pointed in series 9 of Sg-1, when all the Sg-1 came through.
          really? so they actually addressed this issue and explained why the sg1's and mckay weren't affected?? i never noticed that.

          And what about the zat's disentegration ability??

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            #6
            no they never addressed it that's just the theory.
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              #7
              The whole idea of cascade failure has went away as of late because some sort of bridge was created connecting the dimensions.

              In S3's 'Point of View', the Mirror was used to come to this universe and then the device was turned off, so any connection to the other side was lost, but in S10's 'Ripple Effect', multiple dimensions were connected to ours which meant no cascade failure.

              The same thing was done in 'McKay and Mrs Miller'. The bridge that was in their own energy project was still connected to Rod's dimension and that's why he didn't go through cascade failure.

              Because all dimensions had this bridge, exception in 'Point of View', it's this commonality which stops the cascade failure. No matter how far part each dimension could have been, their original dimension was connected to ours which stopped cascade failure

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                #8
                In Ripple Effect they stated the entrostopic cascade failure would only happen if the universes are almost exactly the same.

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                  #9
                  no, I think it was if they're REALLY close to each other. I think the multiverse theory says you can't have two identical universes
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SaberBlade View Post
                    The whole idea of cascade failure has went away as of late because some sort of bridge was created connecting the dimensions.

                    In S3's 'Point of View', the Mirror was used to come to this universe and then the device was turned off, so any connection to the other side was lost, but in S10's 'Ripple Effect', multiple dimensions were connected to ours which meant no cascade failure.

                    The same thing was done in 'McKay and Mrs Miller'. The bridge that was in their own energy project was still connected to Rod's dimension and that's why he didn't go through cascade failure.

                    Because all dimensions had this bridge, exception in 'Point of View', it's this commonality which stops the cascade failure. No matter how far part each dimension could have been, their original dimension was connected to ours which stopped cascade failure
                    that's a damn good theorey except for one problem: in "mckay and mrs miller" the bridge was severed after the anti rodney appeared, that was the whole point of him comming to their universe, cause the exotic particles were apearing as long as the bridge was open.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Garth Claw View Post
                      Doesn't the quantum flux thing only happen if the deminson are seperated by a big margin as pointed in series 9 of Sg-1, when all the Sg-1 came through.

                      aha. I just watched ripple effect.
                      dr lee says that "...and i'm thinking that the proximity of these realities in relation to each other would account for the absence of the entropic cascade failure........."
                      so yeah they did address it but it was kinda dodgy, not all the realities were similar, dr fraiser fas still alive in one and the other had the ori establish a second beach head.
                      but oh well i spose it's satisfactory.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by wedge11 View Post
                        that's a damn good theorey except for one problem: in "mckay and mrs miller" the bridge was severed after the anti rodney appeared, that was the whole point of him comming to their universe, cause the exotic particles were apearing as long as the bridge was open.
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                          #13
                          wasnt that just a side effect of the the travel through the mirror?
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by PG15 View Post
                            ahh right you are, i would have watched it to make sure but i didn't have that episode. my bad

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                              #15
                              2 Sam's in 1 universe, hmmmmmmm (starts getting ideas)
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