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Skate Zilla
January 16th, 2007, 03:50 PM
PLEASE, Pretty Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply Here if you want to see the movies in HD-DVD Format!

kirmit
January 16th, 2007, 03:51 PM
As the stargate seasons are in HD now I'm pretty certain the movies will be.

the_dark_light
January 16th, 2007, 04:10 PM
Don't be too sure. I'm guessing it's blu-ray. Why? Sony-MGM - that's why!

cchance
January 16th, 2007, 06:56 PM
who the hell wants bluray, GIVE ME IT ON HDDVD ... they already killed sg1 s11 least they can do is release on hddvd for the fans

-PITBULL-
January 17th, 2007, 12:58 AM
who the hell wants bluray, GIVE ME IT ON HDDVD ... they already killed sg1 s11 least they can do is release on hddvd for the fans
Sorry but at this point in time releasing the Series and the Movies in either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD format is jsut isnt a good idea ...

With SONY and TOSHIBA fighting over what format is better , its hard to say what fan base has the BLu-Ray Dives and What fans have the HD-DVD Drives or Players ... Sorry about that one ...

Yes it would be nice to see STARGATE SG-1 and Atlantis on HD Format , and the Movies in an HD Format , But whos to say the sales are going to be high with the movies ... At that whats to say the Seres will sale good in the HD format ... MGM would be wasting money they could use for more movies for this new format instead ... Sorry but i would rather see mroe MOVIES come out rather then see them make the Movies or TV Seres in HD or Blu-Ray format ..

If they had to choice a Format , well sorry to tell you its going to be in the BLU-RAY format ... Seeing how the STARGATE Movie is in Blu-Ray format , Sony and MGM will put the newer movies in the same format ... Link to Prove it ... Suncoast Video (http://www.suncoast.com/Movies/Movie.aspx?v_id=V+++132284&type=&prodid=LGT19155BR) & SonyStyle (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=mtv&Dept=moviesmusic&ProductSKU=LGT19155BR&aecURL=Product.aspx%3Fprodid%3DLGT19155BR#)

the_dark_light
January 17th, 2007, 05:12 AM
Pitbull has a point. As is stands, there are too few HD players on the market (and even they are expensive), and of course the holy war between HD-DVD and blue-ray is going to make matters worse.

This is a matter that really irritates me, and stinks of anti-competitive practices (although I'm not sure if it will warrant action from regulators) The PS3 and the MGM connection certainly provides blue-ray with what is (in my mind) an unfair advantage.

Fortunately, there are a few studios who are planning on releasing movies in both formats, and there's even word about technology to allow both formats to be put on the same disk (an article I read some time ago, I'll try to dig it up). Of course that won't do for Sony, it'll be blue-ray all the way (unless it becomes a flop and they HAVE to switch to HD-DVD, remember betamax? That was the superior format, but people opted for the cheaper VHS standard)

Edit: Here's the article - http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/10/warner_launches_total_hd_disc/

The Great Lord Baal
January 17th, 2007, 05:17 AM
i agree with pitbull and the dark light

travis
January 17th, 2007, 05:29 AM
yes I do hope they release it in HD, otherwise I just convert to HR.

Dutch_Razor
January 17th, 2007, 05:51 AM
Right, SONY releasing something in Toshiba's HD DVD?

Metonic
January 17th, 2007, 11:22 AM
Don't be too sure. I'm guessing it's blu-ray. Why? Sony-MGM - that's why!

It'll be bluray, but only if bluray makes it to the release. I mean come on HDDVD is better looking and easier to work with. Sony has been rumored to start making moves against the adult entertainment industry and not allow them to go bluray, meaning the porn flicks will go HDDVD. The pervert population has increased since betamax did that, and we all know how that turned out...

So... if it is released in bluray, MGM will lose money. Im sorry HDDVD won. I hate sony tho so im biased.. Well I dont hate them, but technologically they suck, i mean PS3, Bluray, battery explosions, development on an anti ipod, so many mistakes for a company thats almost eligible for bankruptsy

Truskawka
January 17th, 2007, 11:26 AM
Don't be too sure. I'm guessing it's blu-ray. Why? Sony-MGM - that's why!

MGM is no longer with Sony. They opted out last year and the distributor of Stargate SG-1 DVDs is 20th Century Fox now. See the cover of season 9 box released in USA/Canada and also Fox's website. So I suppose there's a great chance the movies will be released in HD format.

Skate Zilla
January 17th, 2007, 12:05 PM
MGM is no longer with Sony. They opted out last year and the distributor of Stargate SG-1 DVDs is 20th Century Fox now. See the cover of season 9 box released in USA/Canada and also Fox's website. So I suppose there's a great chance the movies will be released in HD format.

Yup,

They Should Really Try and Strike a Deal with Microsoft , Put The Season 10 Sg1/ Atlantis Season 3 Episodes on Xbox Live in HD and charge for it.. lol... they'd make a killin

the_dark_light
January 17th, 2007, 01:39 PM
MGM is no longer with Sony. They opted out last year and the distributor of Stargate SG-1 DVDs is 20th Century Fox now. See the cover of season 9 box released in USA/Canada and also Fox's website. So I suppose there's a great chance the movies will be released in HD format.

That's good to hear. The obvious problem with supporting only 1 format is that backing the loosing horse could have dire consequences (this isn't me blowing things out of proportion, it's me pointing out that studios could be stuck with a lame-duck format and not be able to compete in the HD market, which will grow)

Metonic
January 17th, 2007, 04:41 PM
all they gotta do is back HDDVD.... why? cuz blu ray suck. sony sucks. BURN THEM TO HELL

Daedalus-304
January 17th, 2007, 05:04 PM
The probably won't until this whole "format war" is resolved. Many people that I know aren't going to buy either one until the war is over. That's is what I'm doing, they are too expensive to pick one and risk it losing.

RepliHawk
January 17th, 2007, 05:41 PM
The probably won't until this whole "format war" is resolved. Many people that I know aren't going to buy either one until the war is over. That's is what I'm doing, they are too expensive to pick one and risk it losing.

That is what I will do too

Metonic
January 17th, 2007, 05:55 PM
porn industry will decide... they're making HDDVDs, instead of bluray....

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jenks
January 17th, 2007, 06:44 PM
If you do some research, you'll find that bluray is much better than HDDVD.

BloomGate
January 17th, 2007, 07:18 PM
It'll be bluray, but only if bluray makes it to the release. I mean come on HDDVD is better looking and easier to work with. Sony has been rumored to start making moves against the adult entertainment industry and not allow them to go bluray, meaning the porn flicks will go HDDVD. The pervert population has increased since betamax did that, and we all know how that turned out...

So... if it is released in bluray, MGM will lose money. Im sorry HDDVD won. I hate sony tho so im biased.. Well I dont hate them, but technologically they suck, i mean PS3, Bluray, battery explosions, development on an anti ipod, so many mistakes for a company thats almost eligible for bankruptsy

Dude - There is ALOT of disinformation out there and I'm afraid you've been duped.

The quality of BluRay is now as good or better than HD-DVD.

Vivid video will be releasing "Debbie does Dallas.....Again" in both formats.

HD-DVD has 1 exclusive studio releasing movies and 2 that are releasing in both formats. (3 of 8)

Blu-Ray has 5 exclusive studios and 2 that are releasing in both formats. (7 of 8)

Blu-Ray has more players in the marketplace and more movies available.

I'm not saying it's a victory for Blu-Ray yet, but they certainly seem to be winning the battle so far.

Read more here: http://www.tvpredictions.com/rsmith122906.htm

Metonic
January 17th, 2007, 08:13 PM
Dude - There is ALOT of disinformation out there and I'm afraid you've been duped.

The quality of BluRay is now as good or better than HD-DVD. so far all reviews and reports that I have read say otherwise.


Vivid video will be releasing "Debbie does Dallas.....Again" in both formats. according to the feeds Recent interviews at the Adult Entertainment convention, they are switching to HDDVD This is because SONY is rumored to be trying to stop the adult industry from going bluray



Blu-Ray has more players in the marketplace and more movies available. Higher prices, lower quality players. Sony publishes movies.. and yet they still aren't that far ahead.


I'm not saying it's a victory for Blu-Ray yet, but they certainly seem to be winning the battle so far. almost every technological report ive read thats not Sony or sony funded in anyway.... says HDDVD, for the simple fact that it looks better.

Sony lost.
They lost the console wars,
they lost the handheld wars,
they lost the format wars,
they dropped stargate and lost millions,
they lost law suites for a faulty hardware,
and they are almost bankrupt..

So... Sony sucks im sorry. Blu ray sucks. im sorry. And... well thats it..

the format for SG1 will be HDDVD because they are cheaper. and people go by price.

-PITBULL-
January 17th, 2007, 09:46 PM
You know i do understand that people are going to say well SONY sucks , and HD-DVDs are far better ... Thats fine with me ... But dont forget to check out how is backing who in this format wars ...

Yes PORN does a great deal of money , More over the internet rather tne in DVD sales ... but still yes they helped win the VHS vs BETA MAX thing ... Big deal who cares , that was then and this is now ...

Meaning now you have to look at who is backin who in this format war this time around ... ts not just a Porn company that has to back then up , HD-DVD doesnt have half the support that Blu_ray has ...

You have to many big companies right now backing Blu-Ray and alot of them are from hardware and Homeentertainment comapnies ... Meaning your going to have mreo Blu-Ray players in PCs to Macs ( Yes apple supports Blu-Ray ) to Blu-Ray Players ...

Then you have DISNEY Supporting Blu-Ray , Witch is alot better then the Porn company , couse the fact that Kids make or break the deal into days Movie Entertainment , and what movies you buy for your home ...

The the big factor ... FOX , MGM are both supporting BLU-RAY , so before saying well FOX got the deal to make the DVDs , guess who they support or at the least check out who they support first ... Heres the Proof ... Look at the bottom of this page to see soem of the support that Blu-Ray Has ... (http://www.blu-raydisc.com/)

jenks
January 17th, 2007, 09:55 PM
almost every technological report ive read thats not Sony or sony funded in anyway.... says HDDVD, for the simple fact that it looks better.

Sony lost.
They lost the console wars,
they lost the handheld wars,
they lost the format wars,
they dropped stargate and lost millions,
they lost law suites for a faulty hardware,
and they are almost bankrupt..



Do you just make this stuff up?

-PITBULL-
January 17th, 2007, 10:10 PM
so far all reviews and reports that I have read say otherwise.

according to the feeds Recent interviews at the Adult Entertainment convention, they are switching to HDDVD This is because SONY is rumored to be trying to stop the adult industry from going bluray


Higher prices, lower quality players. Sony publishes movies.. and yet they still aren't that far ahead.

almost every technological report ive read thats not Sony or sony funded in anyway.... says HDDVD, for the simple fact that it looks better.

Sony lost.
They lost the console wars,
they lost the handheld wars,
they lost the format wars,
they dropped stargate and lost millions,
they lost law suites for a faulty hardware,
and they are almost bankrupt..

So... Sony sucks im sorry. Blu ray sucks. im sorry. And... well thats it..

the format for SG1 will be HDDVD because they are cheaper. and people go by price.

I would love to know where you get this info from ... If Blu-Ray really sucks , and SONY as a compnay sucks , why are they the ones make the standards on technology ....

HDMI 1.3 is sonys doing , upgrading the HDMI for faster and better resoution ...

BLu-Ray that holds anywhere from 25 to 50GBs of Info is far mreo room then a HD-DVD that only holds 15 to 30GBs of info ...

If BLu-Ray it self sucks , why are companies like Dell or Allienware and Apple , Disney , Fox and MGM supporting the format ...

Before you start posting about how a company sucks you should research the compnay a little more ...

Yes SONY as a compony is a little one sided , and doe have there wrong side , but Blu-ray has to be one of there best ideas out there , PS3 is just starting out and who knows who really wont that war ...

As far as the Porn companies not supporting SONY or sony not wantign Porn on there format , well that could be a deal from Disney and Apple or some either deal they made with the either companies that SONY has to support as well .. So how knows why SONY didnt want porn on a Blu-Ray disc , Thats there choice , and somewhat a smart one when you think of the kids out there that would get there hands ont it anyways ...

BloomGate
January 18th, 2007, 01:24 AM
so far all reviews and reports that I have read say otherwise.

Would you please provide links to support this?


according to the feeds Recent interviews at the Adult Entertainment convention, they are switching to HDDVD This is because SONY is rumored to be trying to stop the adult industry from going bluray

I'm not sure this is really going to matter much even if it's true. As someone else pointed out, with so much free porn available on the internet, the DVD sales part of it will have very little to do with who wins this battle. If you can recall, the Beta vs. VHS war lasted for lasted for years and the battle was won because of more content being available on VHS (porn included) than on Beta. In fact, there was NO other way to get porn back then than on VHS. Trying to suggest a correlation to this battle is just silly.


Higher prices, lower quality players. Sony publishes movies.. and yet they still aren't that far ahead.

Yes, but the gap should continue to grow.


almost every technological report ive read thats not Sony or sony funded in anyway.... says HDDVD, for the simple fact that it looks better.

Please share some of these with us. Remember, if you are recognzing that there is propoganda out there on the Blu-Ray side, please indicate how what you are providing are not HD-DVD propoganda either. That means that forum postings and anonymous blogs don't count.


Sony lost.
They lost the console wars,
they lost the handheld wars,
they lost the format wars,
they dropped stargate and lost millions,
they lost law suites for a faulty hardware,
and they are almost bankrupt..

That's a fascinating list of ..... ummm...... unsupported opinions. As for the console and format wars, that's like declaring Japan the winner of WW2 1 month after Pearl Harbor. It's WAY premature to declare a winner on either side.

Please explain the Sony dropping Stargate thing? MGM changed their distributorship from Sony to Fox, but Sony still owns 20% of the Time-Warner corp of which MGM is owned. How was Sony even involved? Sony doesn't own Sci-fi. I'm really confused on this one.


the format for SG1 will be HDDVD because they are cheaper. and people go by price.

It doesn't matter how cheap something is if you can't watch what you want to. Say some of your favorite movies are: Pirates of the Carribean (Disney), Mr and Mrs Smith (Fox), American Psycho (Lionsgate), The Princess Bride (MGM), Mission Impossible (Paramount), Harry Potter (Warner), Spiderman (Sony), and The Fast and the Furious (Universal).

So on Blu-Ray, you can purchase all but The Fast and the Furious. That's 7 out of 8.

On HD-DVD, you can only purchase Mission Impossible, Harry Potter, and The Fast and the Furious. The others won't be available. That's 3 out of 8.

So if one format costs a little less, but your favorite movies aren't available, would you still buy a player? No, you'll wait until this all sorts itself out.

I'm not really a fan either way (except that I can buy a Blu-Ray burner for my PC and burn 50GB worth of Data per disc right now as a backup) and will wait to see what happens before I purchase a machine for my TV. But right now, I'm waiting for the PS3 to drop in price because at $500, it would retain some value even if Blu-Ray loses the format battle whereas a $500 stand-alone HD-DVD player would be completely useless if that format loses.

the_dark_light
January 18th, 2007, 03:01 AM
Where does the argument that "blue-ray is better quality" come from exactly? :confused:

The quality of the VIDEO is based on filming, and resulution (e.g. 720p, 1080i, 1080p)

The real advantage of blue-ray is that it stores more data than HD-DVD. 25Gb confirmed, with 33Gb in testing, and possibly 50Gb on the way. As opposed to 15Gb for HD-DVD (figures from wikipedia - so don't flame me!)

The raw capacity probably won't decide the outcome of the format wars on their own. the capacity issue depends on how much space is actually needed. Also remember that standards are always improving, capacity for HD-DVD will probably improve over time (like CDs?)

There have been a lot of comparisons to VHS/Betamax, but I think Rambus and DDR is another good example. Rambus was indeed better, but it was expensive and, when first released, was overkill (memory faster than the CPU FSB?)

Those who've said that this particular battle is not going to be decided any time soon are absolutely right. Players are expensive, there is too little "genuine" HD content (getting an old movie in HD? do they take me for a fool?) to make it worthwhile for consumers (and the simple fact that consumers are not going to make that kind of gamble)

I'd just like to warn you all to be careful with this topic (and ones like it) - it's a potential recipe for flamebait! (although I'm sure there are some here who'll be going for an "asbestos cork asward")

BloomGate
January 18th, 2007, 02:40 PM
Where does the argument that "blue-ray is better quality" come from exactly? :confused:

The quality of the VIDEO is based on filming, and resulution (e.g. 720p, 1080i, 1080p)

The real advantage of blue-ray is that it stores more data than HD-DVD. 25Gb confirmed, with 33Gb in testing, and possibly 50Gb on the way. As opposed to 15Gb for HD-DVD (figures from wikipedia - so don't flame me!)

The raw capacity probably won't decide the outcome of the format wars on their own. the capacity issue depends on how much space is actually needed. Also remember that standards are always improving, capacity for HD-DVD will probably improve over time (like CDs?)

There have been a lot of comparisons to VHS/Betamax, but I think Rambus and DDR is another good example. Rambus was indeed better, but it was expensive and, when first released, was overkill (memory faster than the CPU FSB?)

Those who've said that this particular battle is not going to be decided any time soon are absolutely right. Players are expensive, there is too little "genuine" HD content (getting an old movie in HD? do they take me for a fool?) to make it worthwhile for consumers (and the simple fact that consumers are not going to make that kind of gamble)

I'd just like to warn you all to be careful with this topic (and ones like it) - it's a potential recipe for flamebait! (although I'm sure there are some here who'll be going for an "asbestos cork asward")

I don't think it's that big of a deal. The only people that are really polarized on this issue either already own one of the formats.

The HD-DVD has recently shown that they can do a 3 layer disc that maxes out at 51GB. However, the Blu-ray format already has a dual layer format with 50GB that can be purchased for your PC both in the drive and media.

Putting an old movie into HD isn't that tough, they just have to digitize a new master from the original film capturing more data digitally. It's the exact same process they use for new movies that weren't filmed digitally - of which the only one I know of if Star Wars 3.

The only way I can think of that HD-DVD will be able to catch up quickly is if they can market a HD-DVD burner quickly and cheaply. Otherwise, the HD-DVD format has no upside by comparison.

-PITBULL-
January 18th, 2007, 05:34 PM
I don't think it's that big of a deal. The only people that are really polarized on this issue either already own one of the formats.

The HD-DVD has recently shown that they can do a 3 layer disc that maxes out at 51GB. However, the Blu-ray format already has a dual layer format with 50GB that can be purchased for your PC both in the drive and media.

Putting an old movie into HD isn't that tough, they just have to digitize a new master from the original film capturing more data digitally. It's the exact same process they use for new movies that weren't filmed digitally - of which the only one I know of if Star Wars 3.

The only way I can think of that HD-DVD will be able to catch up quickly is if they can market a HD-DVD burner quickly and cheaply. Otherwise, the HD-DVD format has no upside by comparison.
You forgot to add in a few things ...

As i do support both formats , and see both formats great for what they can offer the world ...

People forget to look at the other side of things ...

SONY is build each PS3 with a Blu-Ray player , Not saying that is will win couse of the Blu-Ray player built in to there system , jsut that does give them an upper hand on it ... Also the fact that PSP failed with UMDs doesnt mean that the PS3 will fail with BLu-Ray ... PSP being a handheld device should have had a HDD or some other format that could be used on other products ...

XBOX360 on the other hand is Supporting the HD-DVD format , Witch is why alot of people right now are saying they would rather see the MOVIE set to a HD-DVD format ... What they forget is not everone that Owns a 360 will end up getting the HD-DVD add-on witch will also not help out HD-DVD format ... Seeing that thsi is an add-on device instead of a feature that should be inside the box , alot of people will think twice before bying the product ...

Yes you have a Format war going head to head with a gaming war at the sametime , and the people that Like one Console over the other will support that format alot mroe then the other format ... But in the end its going to be the sales of the Top movies , and how many players are out for each Format ...

So seeing how the PS3 will have and should have by the end of 2007 about the same if not mroe sales over the 360 your going to see mroe Movies in the Blu-Ray format ...

Also seeing how other retailers and companies are building mroe BLu-Ray players , while Toshiba as a handful of supporters on there side , your going to see alot of Movie Comapnies switching in the end of 2007 for the spot to sale there HD Movies on either both formats , or to choice only one format ..

My guess is by 2008 we are going to see a new format out , No it wont be SONY or Toshiba showing off this format .. It could be Apple , or some other big company that wants there name in the hat as well ... I dont see CDs DVD , HD-DVDs or BLu-Ray will atall , but rather seeing HD Contents throw Downloading winning the foramt war ...

FallenAngelII
January 18th, 2007, 10:40 PM
Since Sony's the company taking care of the DVD distribution, I think the scales are tipped in favour of Blu-Ray.

But do not fret about which players to get for the next generation. Several companies are now creating players which will handle both. Some company's creating a disc which will handle both, having a layer for Blu-Ray and a layer for HD-DVD.

the_dark_light
January 19th, 2007, 07:23 AM
I suspect that the X-Box 360's HD-DVD support will help (like or loathe Microsoft, the 360 is a popular console)

Truskawka
January 19th, 2007, 08:09 AM
Since Sony's the company taking care of the DVD distribution, I think the scales are tipped in favour of Blu-Ray.


Sony is no longer the distributor of Stargate SG-1/Atlantis DVDs. MGM opted out last year and the distributor of season 9 DVDs in USA/Canada and the whole season boxset in Europe is 20th Century Fox. I've seen pictures of the season 9 box's back cover, it has Fox's logo. Sony has nothing to do with Stargate now.

the_dark_light
January 21st, 2007, 10:30 AM
Sony is no longer the distributor of Stargate SG-1/Atlantis DVDs. MGM opted out last year and the distributor of season 9 DVDs in USA/Canada and the whole season boxset in Europe is 20th Century Fox. I've seen pictures of the season 9 box's back cover, it has Fox's logo. Sony has nothing to do with Stargate now.

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

According to this, Fox is signed up for blue-ray

Why do I get the feeling that, no matter which faction wins, the consumer is going to suffer?

Ugly Pig
January 23rd, 2007, 12:25 PM
Why do I get the feeling that, no matter which faction wins, the consumer is going to suffer?

Because no matter which faction wins, the consumer is going to suffer.