Hey people. I was just wondering if anybody had any idea about the weight of the puddle jumper or the F-302. Any help or links would be appreciated. Thankyou.
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The F302 are probably about the weight of any fighter plane it's size or maybe a bit heavier but don't the inertial dampeners reduce the weight of the ship? I have no idea where i heard that but it was nagging me in the back of my head...
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a jumper, probably about 3-4 tons.
a f-302 6-8 depending on payload!
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No, the inertial dampners allow the pilot and passengers to fly the aircraft them at the speeds because at the speeds they fly at would kill them. It wouldn't affect the weight of the ship.Originally posted by Inty View Post
IMO, I think the PJ weighs more than the F302 because of the extra room for passengers. But ZPM!! maybe the F302 may weigh more when carrying muntions.
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It's not the weight that matters, but the mass. Weight is a product of gravity, which means that the weight would be different on different planets that have different gravities. In space, there is no gravity, so nothing has weight.
As for the respective masses, it would depend on the materiels the two are made of. The 302 is made mostly of trinium, which is much lighter (in terms of mass) than the materiels used to make modern aircraft, so it's mass would be far less than one of those fighters. It is also much smaller in size than most fighters, because it has no tail section at all.
The puddle jumper we can't guess, because we don't know what it's made of, though I'd guess it's mass is slightly higher than the 302.
In some sci fi universes, inertial dampeners work by reducing the mass of an object, thus reducing the effect acceleration momentum on the object, and more importantly any passengers inside. This also has the advantage of makeing the object eisier to move in space, reducing fuel consumption and increasing acceleration and maneuverability. As far as I know, this is the only explenation any sci fi story has ever given for how ID's work, most just name them, then ignore the details.Originally posted by Inty View Post
In stargate, it has never been said how inertial dampners work, it could be the reason given above, or something else, we just don't know.Comment
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unless the PJ is made of some highly dense metal alloys (which dont seem likely, a primitive bomb downed it, and glider fire left damn huge gashes in the hull) it should be much lighter then a 302. the PJ is mostly empty space, im not saying id let it land on my foot but the volume of the 302 and the PJ definately looks in the PJ's favor.Their white flags are no match to our guns!!
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The 302s are actually still pretty large, though, yeah, they don't seem as big as most modern fighters. It's really hard to say, though, for sure. Now if you want to compare it to a modern fighter, something like an F-16 or F-18 is in the neighborhood of 20,000-25,000 lbs empty. Fuel is typically another 8000-10000 lbs. Unless they have replaced the chemical engines with something else, say ion propulsion learned from the Hebredians, that is mass they aren't going to be able to really eliminate. Weapons would typically add a few thousand more lbs of weight. I would give a lowball for an F302 with a full load of fuel and combat armament to be in the vicinity of 25,000-30,000 lbs probably.
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I was pretty sure that in StarGate the Inertial dampeners did reduce the overall Mass but to be honest I cant remember seeing that in any episode so I'm not too sure.
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It reduces the weight. Check out 6x01 and 6x02 (Redemption Parts 1 and 2).Originally posted by Inty View PostComment
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I'm pretty sure that it reduces the inertial mass more than the rest mass. Although I will admit that the differences between the two are fuzzy and the episode you mentioned doesn't really make it clear.Comment
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In The Storm/Eye episode
Becket reaches for a dial and turns it in the PJ
Ford Immediatley asks what he is doin and Beckett
reponds im using the inertial dampners to increase the weight
(so the heavy winds didnt turn them into a kite of sorts).
So Inertial dampners do alter weight it would seem
and with the dampners off id say a few tons same as ZPM!! saidComment
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