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Fatewarns
December 31st, 2006, 04:16 PM
I want an episode

where Sam Carter comes over to Atlantis to help Mckay fix a problem that he can't solve. And there's conflict between the two scientist. and they make a bet on that the person who solve this problem, would due the person's sersant (that doesn't involve sex or something illegal, guess who put that rule). Well Sam comes up with a solution that most of the scientist call brillant and ingenious. Well all except Mckay who claims that that her idea is wrong that she going to destory something really important (or something like that), but nobody believes him. Try as he might no one believes him, as they all think that Mckay is being you know Mckays! So he goes to Sheppard asking him to trust him to believe in him, but Sheppard can't do that because he doesn't trust Mckay's opinion over Sam's. Reason why sheppard doesn't believe him over Sam is simple for once Sheppard has a choice because Sheppard knows that Mckay is the smartest person in Atlantis so there's no one else to turn to, but Sam Carter is here, the only other person who maybe smarter than him. And Mckay replies that (in all seriousness!) that is possible that Sam is smarter than him, which you know surprise Sheppard. But Mckay double backs and says on this situation she wrong. And Mckay ask Sheppard to trust him, to which Sheppard replies he can't and brings up that ask the last time he ask him to trust him, he destory 5/6 of a solar system. And Sheppard leaves a stun Mckay

That's what I came up with so far, so give me what you think. I'll write in the rest later.

Edit: just part of it link is here, hope you like it.

http://worldofguworf.blogspot.com/

Alipeeps
December 31st, 2006, 04:28 PM
I want an episode

where Sam Carter comes over to Atlantis to help Mckay fix a problem that he can't solve. And there's conflict between the two scientist. and they make a bet on that the person who solve this problem, would due the person's sersant (that doesn't involve sex or something illegal, guess who put that rule). Well Sam comes up with a solution that most of the scientist call brillant and ingenious. Well all except Mckay who claims that that her idea is wrong that she going to destory something really important (or something like that), but nobody believes him. Try as he might no one believes him, as they all think that Mckay is being you know Mckays! So he goes to Sheppard asking him to trust him to believe in him, but Sheppard can't do that because he doesn't trust Mckay's opinion over Sam's. Reason why sheppard doesn't believe him over Sam is simple for once Sheppard has a choice because Sheppard knows that Mckay is the smartest person in Atlantis so there's no one else to turn to, but Sam Carter is here, the only other person who maybe smarter than him. And Mckay replies that (in all seriousness!) that is possible that Sam is smarter than him, which you know surprise Sheppard. But Mckay double backs and says on this situation she wrong. And Mckay ask Sheppard to trust him, to which Sheppard replies he can't and brings up that ask the last time he ask him to trust him, he destory 5/6 of a solar system. And Sheppard leaves a stun Mckay

That's what I came up with so far, so give me what you think. I'll write in the rest later.

Honest opinion? Doesn't appeal. But then I'm not a fan of the idea of Sam in Atlantis. And I couldn't quite work out what you meant by "would due the person's sersant" cos that makes no sense to me. Did you mean it to something about acting as the other's servant?

Overall, this sounds - especially with your comment that you'll write the rest in later - like this subject is more suited to the fanfic forum than the Season 3 discussion forum.. after all, this is not an actual episode to discuss, it's your idea for essentially a fanfic? Right?

ur uncle urgo
December 31st, 2006, 04:33 PM
i personaly dont want any sg-1 to go to atlantis just my opioin.

Anonmatel
December 31st, 2006, 06:24 PM
i personaly dont want any sg-1 to go to atlantis just my opioin.

FINALLY i find someone that agrees with me when i say crossovers are usually a bad thing. Green for you...

Alipeeps
December 31st, 2006, 06:43 PM
FINALLY i find someone that agrees with me when i say crossovers are usually a bad thing. Green for you...

Oooohhhh there are a LOT of people out there who agree with you on that front, believe you me! :D

Lt. Colonel Ryu Gaia
December 31st, 2006, 10:54 PM
Er... no offense, but this episode idea sounds really generic.

theonebluegecko
December 31st, 2006, 11:34 PM
I agree that the episode sound really basic, but also I do not think that Sheppard would bring up (seriously that is) the whole destroying 5/6 of a galaxy. I think that the two of them already have worked out the issue of it and have already come to trust each other (Sheppard has trusted McKay many times this season when it was not necessarily clear that he should have). Also, Sheppard really has not had a reason to trust Carter over McKay as he has not had that much interaction with Carter.

obsessed1
January 1st, 2007, 09:46 AM
Oooohhhh there are a LOT of people out there who agree with you on that front, believe you me! :D
Yep, theres a thread out there somewhere for it!! ;)

sam plus Atlantis equals so wrong!!! oops!!! I'l take it to the other thread.

This does sound fanficcy, theres a thread for that too :D

Mick^
January 1st, 2007, 10:29 AM
I think a lot of people are in agreeance on the idea of relocateing of SGC personnel to Atlantis. A few guest spots here and there on each others shows and oblique references are fine with me, after all they are all run off the one world's exploration project in the same universe after all it has to be expected! What does bother me is the completely different dynamics that are working on each show with the change in writers for Atlantis and the transfer of Actors from one to the other i'm just praying it doesn't become SG:CARTER.

Fatewarns
January 1st, 2007, 12:01 PM
I agree that the episode sound really basic, but also I do not think that Sheppard would bring up (seriously that is) the whole destroying 5/6 of a galaxy. I think that the two of them already have worked out the issue of it and have already come to trust each other (Sheppard has trusted McKay many times this season when it was not necessarily clear that he should have). Also, Sheppard really has not had a reason to trust Carter over McKay as he has not had that much interaction with Carter.

but I think the main reason why Sheppard agrees or trust in Mckays's opinion is that Sheppard knows that Mckay is the smartest dude around. so he really doesn't have a choice in the matter. I mean sure there are other scientist, but are they as smart as Mckay. I think figure out that like or not he has to trust in Mckay, because of his genius. But if there's someone smarter than Mckay or just smart than he has choice, who he pick then.

Night Spring
January 1st, 2007, 06:20 PM
but I think the main reason why Sheppard agrees or trust in Mckays's opinion is that Sheppard knows that Mckay is the smartest dude around.
How about let's go back one step and think about how Sheppard knows that Mckay is "the smartest dude around." I can think of two reasons:
1. McKay's own word.
2. Empirical evidence -- McKay is the one who always manages to fix / come up with a solution to problems.

I think we've also seen evidence that Sheppard has figured out for himself that when McKay is not available, call Zelenka, the second smartest guy in the expedition. (See Duet and Grace Under Pressure, for example.)

So, if Sam does come to Atlantis -- then first, you have to decide whether your scenario takes place right after she arrives, or she has been there for some time, and has had a chance to interact with Sheppard. That will make a difference in how and why Sheppard decides who he trusts more, Sam or McKay. You'll also want to think carefully about the nature of the issue over which Sam and McKay disagrees.

While I can certainly see scenarios where Sheppard decides to trust Sam over McKay, I don't think the "Shep doesn't trust McKay because of Duranda" is going to work on its own. That was already over a year ago, and in Sheppard's experience, McKay's been nearly always right for more than three years except for that one instance. While he may know of Sam's impressive record with SG-1, and even have McKay's own word that Sam is as smart / smarter than himself, in order to convince readers/viewers of Sheppard deciding to trust Sam over McKay -- you need more than just that.

Fatewarns
January 2nd, 2007, 07:17 PM
How about let's go back one step and think about how Sheppard knows that Mckay is "the smartest dude around." I can think of two reasons:
1. McKay's own word.
2. Empirical evidence -- McKay is the one who always manages to fix / come up with a solution to problems.

I think we've also seen evidence that Sheppard has figured out for himself that when McKay is not available, call Zelenka, the second smartest guy in the expedition. (See Duet and Grace Under Pressure, for example.)

So, if Sam does come to Atlantis -- then first, you have to decide whether your scenario takes place right after she arrives, or she has been there for some time, and has had a chance to interact with Sheppard. That will make a difference in how and why Sheppard decides who he trusts more, Sam or McKay. You'll also want to think carefully about the nature of the issue over which Sam and McKay disagrees.

While I can certainly see scenarios where Sheppard decides to trust Sam over McKay, I don't think the "Shep doesn't trust McKay because of Duranda" is going to work on its own. That was already over a year ago, and in Sheppard's experience, McKay's been nearly always right for more than three years except for that one instance. While he may know of Sam's impressive record with SG-1, and even have McKay's own word that Sam is as smart / smarter than himself, in order to convince readers/viewers of Sheppard deciding to trust Sam over McKay -- you need more than just that.

Look I'll break it down.

Sam Carter- been working with the SGC for 10-11 years, when she knows something she say it doesn't embellish, or pretend to be modest about her abilities.

Mckay- work with or on the SGR (stargate relate projects) for 6 years. he embellishes, when he doesn't know something he pretends to know what he's talking about. And HIS EGO!!!. I mean there are a number of times where Mckay becomes 'modest" about what he's capable of and magically figures it out. you get what I'm saying.

Fatewarns
January 3rd, 2007, 12:13 AM
how do you post fanfictions because I written part of it out.

Night Spring
January 3rd, 2007, 04:19 AM
So *you* think Sam is more trustworthy than Mckay. Fine. But Sheppard isn't you. For your story to make sense, you must convince the readers why *Sheppard* might find Sam more trustworthy than McKay -- you can't just take your opinions about Sam vs McKay and transplant that into Sheppard's head. For instance, you bring up that Sam has spent longer in the Stargate program than Mckay. Yes, that's a fact. Now, why would Sheppard care about that? From what I know of Sheppard in the show, he's all about results, not a person's records. Or, you mention McKay's arrogance and ego. Then perhaps you could write a scene showing Sheppard working with Sam and being pleasantly surprised by how nice it is to work with someone, who's, well... nice. :D

You just have to lay down some groundwork for Sheppard trusting Sam over McKay, is all I'm saying. Because to Sheppard McKay is someone who he's worked with closely for over three years, one of the people he's admitted he considers his family. Sam, he doesn't really know -- he may have read all the SGC reports, might admire all that she has accomplished, but the kind of personal trust you have McKay asking Sheppard for in your scenario -- that's not going to go out the window just because Sam's worked at the SGC longer than McKay.

Fatewarns
January 3rd, 2007, 08:49 AM
So *you* think Sam is more trustworthy than Mckay. Fine. But Sheppard isn't you. For your story to make sense, you must convince the readers why *Sheppard* might find Sam more trustworthy than McKay -- you can't just take your opinions about Sam vs McKay and transplant that into Sheppard's head. For instance, you bring up that Sam has spent longer in the Stargate program than Mckay. Yes, that's a fact. Now, why would Sheppard care about that? From what I know of Sheppard in the show, he's all about results, not a person's records. Or, you mention McKay's arrogance and ego. Then perhaps you could write a scene showing Sheppard working with Sam and being pleasantly surprised by how nice it is to work with someone, who's, well... nice. :D

You just have to lay down some groundwork for Sheppard trusting Sam over McKay, is all I'm saying. Because to Sheppard McKay is someone who he's worked with closely for over three years, one of the people he's admitted he considers his family. Sam, he doesn't really know -- he may have read all the SGC reports, might admire all that she has accomplished, but the kind of personal trust you have McKay asking Sheppard for in your scenario -- that's not going to go out the window just because Sam's worked at the SGC longer than McKay.

Ok that's good advice, I will do that thank you. But I wondering where do you post the fanfictions?
can I post it here

Fatewarns
January 3rd, 2007, 11:49 PM
wrote part of it. hope you like it. would like honest criticism

http://worldofguworf.blogspot.com/

Fatewarns
January 7th, 2007, 10:49 PM
those of you who read my fanfiction can you please comment on them

Alipeeps
January 8th, 2007, 02:40 AM
those of you who read my fanfiction can you please comment on them

Welcome to the world of fan-fiction. You can ask all you like but you can't force people to leave reviews. If people want to, they will.. if they don't they won't. And the vast majority of people on ffnet don't leave reviews.

Fatewarns
January 8th, 2007, 02:58 PM
Welcome to the world of fan-fiction. You can ask all you like but you can't force people to leave reviews. If people want to, they will.. if they don't they won't. And the vast majority of people on ffnet don't leave reviews.

I don't review , I want to know if people are actually reading it

Fatewarns
January 12th, 2007, 04:17 PM
does anyone know how to create more than one page on a website

Alipeeps
January 12th, 2007, 04:39 PM
does anyone know how to create more than one page on a website

What website?

Fatewarns
January 12th, 2007, 10:35 PM
What website?

worldofguworf.blogspot.com/

this one

Alipeeps
January 13th, 2007, 03:33 AM
worldofguworf.blogspot.com/

this one

Sorry. Not used that one so woulnd't know.

I imagine it works about the same as LJ so you could try doing a cut.

P.S. You really need to amend what you've posted on there as all the formatting text like <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> makes your fic very hard to read and most people will probably get fed up and give up.

Fatewarns
January 13th, 2007, 10:03 AM
Sorry. Not used that one so woulnd't know.

I imagine it works about the same as LJ so you could try doing a cut.

P.S. You really need to amend what you've posted on there as all the formatting text like <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> makes your fic very hard to read and most people will probably get fed up and give up.

How do I do that?

Alipeeps
January 13th, 2007, 01:49 PM
How do I do that?

I wouldn't know - you'll have to read the istructions/help section of the website you're using to find out more, I would think.

ReganX
January 13th, 2007, 02:19 PM
I want an episode

where Sam Carter comes over to Atlantis to help Mckay fix a problem that he can't solve. And there's conflict between the two scientist. and they make a bet on that the person who solve this problem, would due the person's sersant (that doesn't involve sex or something illegal, guess who put that rule). Well Sam comes up with a solution that most of the scientist call brillant and ingenious. Well all except Mckay who claims that that her idea is wrong that she going to destory something really important (or something like that), but nobody believes him. Try as he might no one believes him, as they all think that Mckay is being you know Mckays! So he goes to Sheppard asking him to trust him to believe in him, but Sheppard can't do that because he doesn't trust Mckay's opinion over Sam's. Reason why sheppard doesn't believe him over Sam is simple for once Sheppard has a choice because Sheppard knows that Mckay is the smartest person in Atlantis so there's no one else to turn to, but Sam Carter is here, the only other person who maybe smarter than him. And Mckay replies that (in all seriousness!) that is possible that Sam is smarter than him, which you know surprise Sheppard. But Mckay double backs and says on this situation she wrong. And Mckay ask Sheppard to trust him, to which Sheppard replies he can't and brings up that ask the last time he ask him to trust him, he destory 5/6 of a solar system. And Sheppard leaves a stun Mckay

That's what I came up with so far, so give me what you think. I'll write in the rest later.

Edit: just part of it link is here, hope you like it.

http://worldofguworf.blogspot.com/

The idea is an interesting one; whether McKay is right or wrong about the project it would still hurt that the people on Atlantis would trust Sam's word ahead of his own.

Fatewarns
January 13th, 2007, 09:28 PM
The idea is an interesting one; whether McKay is right or wrong about the project it would still hurt that the people on Atlantis would trust Sam's word ahead of his own.

spot on why I create this story to. See the effect on how Mckay will react to the people he work with for 3 years saving there lives, but when it comes down to it they don't trust him that much, they trust because he's the smartest dude, but you know once you bring Sam, I mean, who would you trust. I will probably have part 2 in torromorrow or monday for whose of you interested.

ReganX
January 14th, 2007, 03:59 AM
spot on why I create this story to. See the effect on how Mckay will react to the people he work with for 3 years saving there lives, but when it comes down to it they don't trust him that much, they trust because he's the smartest dude, but you know once you bring Sam, I mean, who would you trust. I will probably have part 2 in torromorrow or monday for whose of you interested.

Same link?

Fatewarns
January 14th, 2007, 08:44 AM
Same link?

yes, wait are you saying that someone is actuaclly reading my fanfiction!!!!!1

Fatewarns
January 14th, 2007, 11:27 PM
part 2 is up now

http://worldofguworf.blogspot.com/

tell me if there is any grammar, spelling kind of mistake

Fatewarns
January 19th, 2007, 08:25 PM
all write guys, I will be posting a part 3 for torrmorrow. and that might be for a while because I'm really busy and I 'm having trouble fitting this into my time, but I will try to get in another part in by next two weeks hopefully maybe 3.

Also I'm planning to do another fanfic this time about alternate reality. I have a basic idea on what I going to do, but I'm having trouble who's going into this alternate world. Which character do you want going to a alternate world, if you can the reason why.note guys I probably won't have Mckay in this fanfic because I want to focus on someone else.

Fatewarns
January 20th, 2007, 10:04 PM
I've post part 3 this is probably the most sad part, but it's great. here's the link. I hope you like it.

worldofguworf.blogspot.com/

Fatewarns
February 3rd, 2007, 02:07 PM
ok I think the last part will be posted on my website torrmorrow. Igonna burn the midnight oil to complete it

Fatewarns
February 6th, 2007, 08:17 PM
sorry for all the delays folks, I'm moving and there's a lot of packing:p , to do, but here it is hope you like it.http://worldofguworf.blogspot.com/