Annoyences In Superman History

[Billz]

The thing that really bugged me about the whole Superman history (Smallville, Lois And Clark, etc) is the low level of continunity between them. I know WB say that 'Smallville' isnt considered completely canon but we all know where its leading up to.

Differences:
Movies:
C.Ks dad is dead through out all of them
Didnt meet Lois until he was in Metropolis
C.Ks Earth parents are old

Smallville:
C.Ks dad is alive although with health problems
His parents are middle aged and not dressing like characters from 'The Waltons'
C.K met Lois
Small mobile phones
Computers like what we use today
Not set in the early 90s like the movies were
Endless list...

Lois And Clark:
C.Ks dad is alive with apparently no health problems
(Hated Lois And Clark by the way)

The list is endless.

What things have annoyed you through out the Superman history?

[MB.Eddie]

Each tells the story a little differently for new generations. I think this is a good thing so long as the core stays the same.

[Cap116]

- The thing with CK's dad has to do with Crisis of Infinite Worlds in the comics. Before Crisis his died, which the movies were based off of. After Crisis, his dad lived and is alive in the comics today.

Other than that I got nothing, whatever makes likable for the fans. That is all I can think off.

[The Ori]

I agree there are so many stories out there its confusing, but I'm reading on Wikipedia about The Martian Manhunter, wow the stories are amazing.

Like the stories about the The Guardians Of The Universe, the first intelligant life forms apparently who created created evil or darkness!!

Nice! Although its got nothin to do with what you guys are talking about!!

[ARMS]

Each tells the story a little differently for new generations. I think this is a good thing so long as the core stays the same.

Same for Spiderman

[nekoi]

Same for Spiderman

And every other comic series out there, almost. XD

[dec55]

Lois And Clark:
C.Ks dad is alive with apparently no health problems
(Hated Lois And Clark by the way)

Loved Lois and Clark the series......

[Cap116]

It is about every 10 to 15 years that comic writers update the Origin stories for comic book heroes, to keep them up with the times. So there are lot of stories out there for Superman.

[The Ori]

Yeh I don't understand is Jonthan Kent supposed to be dead.

But I guess that TPTB have every right to change story line a bit!!

[Billz]

Also, In one of the movies, C.K has the ability to erase minds simply by kissing someone. If thats the case, then in Smallville, Lana would not remember anything and esentially represent someone suffering from mental problems.

[panzor]

Also, In one of the movies, C.K has the ability to erase minds simply by kissing someone. If thats the case, then in Smallville, Lana would not remember anything and esentially represent someone suffering from mental problems.

That might explain why she is now seeing Lex Luthor.

But as for Superman's powers, they change like the wind in every new comic, movie or TV show. When he first started, Superman could not fly only jump really high. Later in the 80's, Superman's had the power to move planets like regular people moves a block of wood. He also had a strange 80's haircut, which is odd for a timeless character seeing how a lot of comic book characters rarely change there hair.

Superman has a history of having some of the most varied powers in any comic book, look at Superman II, all because he was simply to powerful. So it not to hard to see why the new versions of Superman all have different back stories. They can't even decide on what powers he is meant to have.

[SaberBlade]

The biggest problem is making everything canon. Anything you see in any series, or the movies is by default not canon. I don't think anyone could possibly create a single series of events which connects all 5 movies, plus the three TV series (SV, L&C and Superboy), and the animated series along with JLU.

Because of this, I have no real trouble if they base their work on the comic but change the basis of the series as it's not canon anyway. It's when they change the comic that I find annoying. It's supposed to be the definitive version, but with Earth One, Earth Two, Earth Prime, Infinite Crisis, Post Crisis, Pre-Crisis, Golden Age, Silver Age, New Supermen, new Superboys and god knows what else, you think they'd want to create a single true definitive superman but nah. If the comics can't even sort themselves out, what hope do you think the live action versions have?

Superman II was just a bad example of terrible rewrites. I seem to remember at least three new powers, A: kissing to cause memory loss. B: Superman and Zod being able to shoot white laser beams from their palms. C: Superman being able to send a grown piece of plastic from his logo to completely capture a person like a net, and lets not forget Superman Blue

[Angela V]

I treat is as I do the X-Men movies. Or Spiderman Movies. Or Batman Movies . They all have a long history. To make EVERYTHING canon would be the biggest headach which I woudn't wish on anyone!

[jds1982]

Superman II was just a bad example of terrible rewrites. I seem to remember at least three new powers, A: kissing to cause memory loss. B: Superman and Zod being able to shoot white laser beams from their palms. C: Superman being able to send a grown piece of plastic from his logo to completely capture a person like a net, and lets not forget Superman Blue

I must not have seen that movie in a long time because I don't remember any of that stuff, except the memory erasing, which I figure was some Kryptonian technology and not an inherent superpower.

[SaberBlade]

I must not have seen that movie in a long time because I don't remember any of that stuff, except the memory erasing, which I figure was some Kryptonian technology and not an inherent superpower.

The kiss was never explained. He just did it, and she forgot, as if it's some sort of ability. It was pretty much just a cheap way to get around Richard Donner's idea of having him reverse time (which itself was just a cheap way to do it as it was done at the end of SM1 as well).



Here is the wrap, which Superman "pulls" from his logo.



Here is the beam which can be shot from their hands.



In this scene, it seems like the same hand beam was used after they used their lasers to heat up the weapon, which gives them some sort of telekenesis. Using both scenes, it seems like the Kryptonians can use this beam to push things or pull things