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Falcon Horus
August 9th, 2008, 04:57 AM
Perhaps I missed that Rodney had a relationship with this woman before.

His relationship with Katie Brown is been going on since season 2 - Duet.

gateship15
August 18th, 2008, 02:35 AM
i was told Carson didn't die how is that so thay kill him of then deside to bring him back later and i like that rodney calls Carson his friend and even went to tell Carson's family

John W
August 18th, 2008, 06:57 AM
i was told Carson didn't die how is that so thay kill him of then deside to bring him back later and i like that rodney calls Carson his friend and even went to tell Carson's family

Read the following only if you don't mind being spoiled about Season 4:

Carson DID die. When he comes back at the end of Season 4, he's a clone. He was made when Michael captured Carson briefly early in Season 3. Since then, Michael's kept the clone captive in order to use his knowledge to perfect Wraith/Human Hybrids.

gateship15
August 19th, 2008, 01:23 AM
thank u for clearing that up for me i'll have to watch season 4

Jack_Bauer
August 19th, 2008, 03:47 AM
I'm still struggling to work out what the last part of te epi was? is carson ascended or not?

Falcon Horus
August 19th, 2008, 04:39 AM
I'm still struggling to work out what the last part of te epi was? is carson ascended or not?

That was Rodney dreaming. Carson was blown to bits.

Jack_Bauer
August 19th, 2008, 04:40 AM
That was Rodney dreaming. Carson was blown to bits.

lol i love the way you put that... :D

John W
August 19th, 2008, 08:23 AM
In the most recent issue of "Stargate Magazine", there's a very poignant short story that follows on from this episode. It has a very distraught Rodney struggling to come to terms with Carson's death. He ends up going back to the SGC to talk to Sam about it. The two of them talk about the very close losses they've both suffered (Sam having lost Janet).

I thought it was a really excellent story and a great way to follow-up "Sunday".:)

gateship15
August 20th, 2008, 01:34 AM
i love how u put that to altho carson was my fave character beside rodney i was sad he died

Falcon Horus
August 20th, 2008, 05:31 AM
i love how u put that to altho carson was my fave character beside rodney i was sad he died

It's the sad truth... my favorite character (season 4 spoilers) died in her sleep.

I hated his death and yet Sunday is one of my favorite episodes.

gateship15
August 21st, 2008, 12:21 AM
oo i haven't seen the forth season its not on t.v here yet and it isn't out on dvd here either which is annoying and i hate death two but this episode and the defiant one are my fave episodes

ellabooray
January 4th, 2009, 08:17 PM
WOW


That was one of the best and saddest SGA yet
i cried and am still in shock
RIP Carson


the character growth was so good and interesting
Wow i am in shock - these are the kind of episodes that make you love and hate sga

WOW

Butlersgate
March 7th, 2009, 05:41 AM
was never expecting this to happen in this episode, it's sad that everyone was getting out of fishing with him.

gateship15
March 20th, 2009, 07:27 PM
i agree i think that is what made it sadder because that was his last day and they didn't want to fish with him.

major davis
April 13th, 2009, 12:19 PM
Wow, this ep nearly made me cry 9/10

Jack_Bauer
April 13th, 2009, 07:40 PM
O'Neill would have gone fishing with Carson...

Pharaoh Atem
April 13th, 2009, 08:50 PM
O'Neill would have gone fishing with Carson...

in a heart beat

gateship15
April 17th, 2009, 07:10 PM
O'Neill would have gone fishing with Carson...

yes he would have even if the place they went fishing had no fish (like jacks pond)

clauz89
May 15th, 2009, 02:50 AM
really really sad. but great.

Poor Watson, he would feel terrible when he will know what Beckett has done for him.

Goodbye Carson.


That was Rodney dreaming. Carson was blown to bits.

I like thinking that it was something more than a simple dream...

Falcon Horus
May 15th, 2009, 06:26 AM
I like thinking that it was something more than a simple dream...

It could be, we just won't ever know that.

major davis
May 15th, 2009, 01:55 PM
really really sad. but great.

Poor Watson, he would feel terrible when he will know what Beckett has done for him.

Goodbye Carson.



I like thinking that it was something more than a simple dream...

Who was watson again?

Pretty good ep. Really sad that Carson died though.

8/10(just for the amazing emotional scenes)

Falcon Horus
May 15th, 2009, 02:56 PM
Who was watson again?

He was the dude that joined the female scientist that blew up in the hallway, who played golf with Sheppard and Ronon, and whose tumor blew Carson to kingdom come.

major davis
May 15th, 2009, 02:58 PM
He was the dude that joined the female scientist that blew up in the hallway, who played golf with Sheppard and Ronon, and whose tumor blew Carson to kingdom come.

Sounds familiar.
Well I just bought season 3 of SGA like two days ago so I guess I could just rewatch it.

gateship15
May 15th, 2009, 04:09 PM
it was rodneys way of getting to say goodbye i guess but i would love to think it was more then a dream

Ozman
May 21st, 2009, 10:37 AM
Originally Posted by Jack_Bauer
O'Neill would have gone fishing with Carson

I would have gone fishing with Carson.

I love this episode it is very beautifully presented. Carson only wanted to go fishing. No-one wanted to go with, explosive tumor thingy happens.....

But on the other hand I hate it at the same time. I love rewatching it and always brings the same feeling. Anyone else feel the same way? or is it just me.:(

Jack_Bauer
May 21st, 2009, 08:48 PM
The strong emotional impact of this episode, I feel was destroyed by the laughable way in which Carson returned.

Falcon Horus
May 22nd, 2009, 04:16 PM
The strong emotional impact of this episode, I feel was destroyed by the laughable way in which Carson returned.

I agree.

gateship15
May 23rd, 2009, 08:34 AM
i agree to

escyos
May 25th, 2009, 02:44 AM
i liked how we saw a whole heap of the city

jelgate
May 25th, 2009, 08:18 AM
The strong emotional impact of this episode, I feel was destroyed by the laughable way in which Carson returned.


I agree.


i agree to

Then we are in agreement. The emotional impact of Carson's death was ruined by the cliche way they brought him back

clauz89
May 25th, 2009, 10:04 AM
Then we are in agreement. The emotional impact of Carson's death was ruined by the cliche way they brought him back

can you think of a better way to bring him back?

Falcon Horus
May 25th, 2009, 10:12 AM
can you think of a better way to bring him back?

A) don't kill him in the first place

or

B) don't bring him back at all (how much it pains me to say that)

Cautious Explorer
May 25th, 2009, 10:15 AM
Or at least bring him back changed, as if what he went through actually registered with him in some way.

Falcon Horus
May 25th, 2009, 10:17 AM
Or at least bring him back changed, as if what he went through actually registered with him in some way.

Or C) what CE says.

jelgate
May 25th, 2009, 12:22 PM
can you think of a better way to bring him back?

I personally say don't bring him back it at all. I understood the reason they killed Beckett but it they were going to do TPTB should have stood their ground and kept him dead.

McgillionFan
May 25th, 2009, 12:43 PM
I watched this episode the other night.(Now finished season 3 onto 4)

To me this is the saddest episode EVER!! (Yes you know why lol)
I felt that Carson was just so sweet this episode,he was really happy because he though he was going fishing bless him and even though he wasn't going he still had a smile on his face and just got on with things.

Wow,wasn't it an episode to pull at your heart strings eh? Horrilbe to see him walking then the flames just drowned him.The funeral was very very emotinal,with Weir's speech talking about Beckett and when they walk through the gate with the bagpipe playing.That was so so sad it really was.Also when Rodney was looking out to the ocean and Beckett came.Not sure if Beckett was his imagation or a ghost but it was a very touching moment between the two as they were really close friends and best buddies.

This was a very touching and very emotional episode. But dispite what happened to our beloved Carson it was an enjoyable episode that i enjoy (As long as i rewind to the beginning before Carson's death lol :p )

The one episode that made me cry. :(

Falcon Horus
May 25th, 2009, 01:30 PM
McGillionfan crying with Sunday, who would have thought. :p

The only one I sniffed with is in season 4, the 404 specifically... I'm sure you'll understand why when you watch it. :p

jelgate
May 25th, 2009, 02:06 PM
The only one I sniffed with is in season 4, the 404 specifically... I'm sure you'll understand why when you watch it. :p

Would you like syrup with your Heightmeyer pancakes?:P

I could safely say I have never cried over a character's death or a character who disappears aka the Jonas Quinn Syndrome.

Cautious Explorer
May 25th, 2009, 02:22 PM
Would you like syrup with your Heightmeyer pancakes?:P

I could safely say I have never cried over a character's death or a character who disappears aka the Jonas Quinn Syndrome.

The writers are that good, huh? ;)

GuHNDoi
May 25th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by McgillionFan
The funeral was very very emotinal,with Weir's speech talking about Beckett and when they walk through the gate with the bagpipe playing.

My Great-Grandmother's half Scottish and Australian Aboriginal, and at her funeral there were bagpipes playing when the pallbearers brang her casket to the gravesite.

That scene so reminds me of that day.

"This is not goodbye, this is see you later, Nan"

jelgate
May 25th, 2009, 02:37 PM
The writers are that good, huh? ;)
To be fair to the writers very few events in TV make me cry. I save that for RL.

Although The Shrine did come pretty close since I have a relative who died for Altizhimers.

Falcon Horus
May 25th, 2009, 02:43 PM
Would you like syrup with your Heightmeyer pancakes?:P

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/FalconHorus/Smiley/Other/UltimaTrout.gif


I could safely say I have never cried over a character's death or a character who disappears aka the Jonas Quinn Syndrome.

The JQS - sounds very scientific. :p


The writers are that good, huh? ;)

:lol:

jelgate
May 25th, 2009, 02:45 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/FalconHorus/Smiley/Other/UltimaTrout.gif



The JQS - sounds very scientific. :p



:lol:

Can I have that fish? Its almost dinner time:P

I'm patienting it as we speak:D

Falcon Horus
May 25th, 2009, 04:04 PM
Must send in the duck to safe the fish...http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/FalconHorus/Smiley/Other/_Duck_Ride__by_Shicken051.gif

Jack_Bauer
May 25th, 2009, 04:20 PM
can you think of a better way to bring him back?

Yes

Falcon Horus
May 25th, 2009, 05:03 PM
Yes

And how would that be then?

Jack_Bauer
May 25th, 2009, 07:56 PM
And how would that be then?

Personally I would never have brought him back...

But if I HAD to (which the producers didnt have to) I wouldn't have done the whole clone thing, SG1 had already dabbled with this too recently as well as several other sci-fi shows.

The unexplained, Rodney and Carson 'dream' sequence at the end of Sunday couldnt been used to say Carson had been ascended or something completely different.

Thinking outside the box here... When the 'exploding tumour' went off, it activated an Ancient device in one of the rooms off the hall where the 'death' of carson took place and somehow caused a rift in subspace or some other sci-fi technobabble which caused Carson to be stuck in a bubble outside our normal space-time. Sort of like an 'out-of-phase moment but different somehow. Pay me some money and I will write it for u.

GuHNDoi
May 25th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Personally I would never have brought him back...

But if I HAD to (which the producers didnt have to) I wouldn't have done the whole clone thing, SG1 had already dabbled with this too recently as well as several other sci-fi shows.

The unexplained, Rodney and Carson 'dream' sequence at the end of Sunday couldnt been used to say Carson had been ascended or something completely different.

Thinking outside the box here... When the 'exploding tumour' went off, it activated an Ancient device in one of the rooms off the hall where the 'death' of carson took place and somehow caused a rift in subspace or some other sci-fi technobabble which caused Carson to be stuck in a bubble outside our normal space-time. Sort of like an 'out-of-phase moment but different somehow. Pay me some money and I will write it for u.

They should hire you to be a writer! Sounds better than what we actually saw!

gateship15
May 26th, 2009, 04:37 AM
I personally say don't bring him back it at all. I understood the reason they killed Beckett but it they were going to do TPTB should have stood their ground and kept him dead.

i think the reason they did it was because the fans may not have watched if he was dead and didn't come back but i agree they should have hold there ground and kept him dead

clauz89
May 26th, 2009, 05:53 AM
Personally I would never have brought him back...

But if I HAD to (which the producers didnt have to) I wouldn't have done the whole clone thing, SG1 had already dabbled with this too recently as well as several other sci-fi shows.

The unexplained, Rodney and Carson 'dream' sequence at the end of Sunday couldnt been used to say Carson had been ascended or something completely different.

Thinking outside the box here... When the 'exploding tumour' went off, it activated an Ancient device in one of the rooms off the hall where the 'death' of carson took place and somehow caused a rift in subspace or some other sci-fi technobabble which caused Carson to be stuck in a bubble outside our normal space-time. Sort of like an 'out-of-phase moment but different somehow. Pay me some money and I will write it for u.


well, carson ascended seems not a good idea: he would never agreed about doing nothing whenever lives are in danger...

your second idea is really really brilliant!!:mckayanime09: you are a genius!

gateship15
May 26th, 2009, 07:17 AM
i agree they could have used that idea but they went for a clone if a fan can make up a story how come the writers couldn't think of it because that was a great idea

Cautious Explorer
May 26th, 2009, 07:33 AM
No matter what reason you come up with, time bubble, clones or magical elves, if we never see Carson in his struggle to survive while the rest of Atlantis thinks he's dead, then it's pretty much going to feel like a trumped up reason to me when Carson reappears out of nowhere. Especially if absolutely nothing about him has changed. If Carson returns after so long and behaves as if he's only been on a mildly difficult mission, then the whole thing becomes cheap and pointless. And doubly so if TPTB have no definite plans for what to do with his character anyway.

gateship15
May 26th, 2009, 07:50 AM
true

clauz89
May 26th, 2009, 08:16 AM
I've just rewatched it and it has left me in a depressive mood (even if I stop crying when I see it) :beckettanime09:

gateship15
May 26th, 2009, 09:30 AM
its the kind of episode that does that to u deferentially if the character u like dies

Jack_Bauer
May 26th, 2009, 05:53 PM
No matter what reason you come up with, time bubble, clones or magical elves, if we never see Carson in his struggle to survive while the rest of Atlantis thinks he's dead, then it's pretty much going to feel like a trumped up reason to me when Carson reappears out of nowhere. Especially if absolutely nothing about him has changed. If Carson returns after so long and behaves as if he's only been on a mildly difficult mission, then the whole thing becomes cheap and pointless. And doubly so if TPTB have no definite plans for what to do with his character anyway.

i could not agree with you more! He basically came back, had a bit of an issue with his biological make up, yet the whole ordeal was treated as nothing to him. I mean how long was he held for? Like a year? That has to take quite a toll on an individual. POW coming back from some of the worst wars never fully recovered...but Carson... his fine in the space of a couple of episodes?

Cautious Explorer
May 26th, 2009, 06:17 PM
i could not agree with you more! He basically came back, had a bit of an issue with his biological make up, yet the whole ordeal was treated as nothing to him. I mean how long was he held for? Like a year? That has to take quite a toll on an individual. POW coming back from some of the worst wars never fully recovered...but Carson... his fine in the space of a couple of episodes?

Yes!! I don't know if spoilers are necessary for season five or not.....
Carson, the soft-hearted physician with no military training was taken prisoner and held in Michael's gulag for months and months, forced to harm innocient people, isolated, and the whole time his life was in the hands of an unstable monster. Yet he was virtually untouched by the experience. I'm sorry, but after that kind of ordeal I think the last of my worries would be that I was a clone!! Just one more issue to add to the pot at that point! Carson should have been an absolute mess looking at years of therapy. Yes, people can triumph over adversity, but Carson's acceptance of everything was completely unbelievable.

Ayiana worshiper
May 29th, 2009, 05:06 PM
Does anybody know the name of the song that plays from the coffin being taken through the Stargate until the end of the episode? It has a sad feel to it.

escyos
June 5th, 2009, 01:15 AM
one of the best episodes of the season!

gateship15
June 7th, 2009, 12:10 AM
i agree it may be the best of this season

Ancient Lantean
December 25th, 2009, 04:16 PM
Does anybody know the name of the song that plays from the coffin being taken through the Stargate until the end of the episode? It has a sad feel to it.

It sounded like "Flower of Scotland",Or it could have been "Amazing Grace" played on the bagpipes,I'm not too sure.

Saquist
December 25th, 2009, 04:59 PM
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Was the name of this episode in reference to U2's song. Sunday Bloody Sunday?

jelgate
December 25th, 2009, 05:15 PM
I think its more in reference to the fact that this was Atlantis' day of rest and Sunday is the day of rest for many religions

Saquist
December 25th, 2009, 06:09 PM
I thought it was just for the Christian Judeo Islamic relation.

Kyarra
December 31st, 2009, 09:20 PM
maybe sunday was just the day of the week that the episode took place on??? just a thoguht :)

gateship15
December 31st, 2009, 10:02 PM
this was a great episode

FN-P90
March 28th, 2010, 03:13 PM
Incredible episode. Right up there with Meridian and Heroes Part 1 and 2.

gateship15
March 28th, 2010, 10:00 PM
watched it again and still loved it

dolfyn
March 29th, 2010, 06:44 PM
When I first saw Sunday (which was only last year), I'd only had a vague warning from a friend that it was a "sad episode" & that someone died; I had no idea that Paul/Carson was leaving. He was one of my 3 favourites, along with Sheppard & McKay. So I watched with a growing sense of dread & when it was Carson who died, I was very shocked & upset. After that, the remaining episodes of season 3 felt empty & hollow to me, & I really wasn't that keen to keep watching any further SGA seasons after that. I kept feeling that because Carson had died so suddenly & horribly, that I just couldn't emotionally invest in the other characters anymore; especially when Weir was also at death's door at the end of the season. :beckett14:
Then I found out that Carson was brought back, so I bought the box set of all 5 seasons just this year; & as I watched the first 3 seasons again I fell even harder for sweet lovable Carson (he became my top favourite) & cried even harder when I rewatched Sunday. :(
Although the little interactions & character developments were great in this episode, any good that did was quite literally blown away with the unnecessary death of Carson. Because he was the emotional core of the show, his removal took away the heart & left a big hole in the main cast interactions. :S
As far as I'm concerned, the ultimate destination of Sunday just completely permeates & ruins all the other good stuff in the episode. I want to love it but it just makes me too sad & angry, because it showcases the tossing away of a wonderful & loved character & a fantastic (& equally loved) actor. :mad:
The return of Carson was great, but it was too little too late, & certainly not enough to erase the pointlessly depressing conclusion to Sunday. :(

Feel the love.
dolfyn.
:beckett:

gateship15
March 30th, 2010, 01:43 AM
i hated that he died but i think he died doing the thing he loved doing and that was saving lives. still sad he died and poor rodney lost a friend

DrNicholasRush
April 7th, 2010, 12:28 PM
Just finished watching the episode for the first time. Though I had read earlier on Stargate Wiki that he had died, the strength of the character continued to cause me to feel an ever-increasing amount of dread, and quite honestly, I bawled when he died. One of the best episodes so far in SG-1, Atlantis, or Universe, and I feel this gives the franchise as a whole another injection of realism and good storytelling. Too bad it had to be at the expense of a great character.

gateship15
April 8th, 2010, 03:29 AM
i was so upset when he died

Gamma626
April 12th, 2010, 07:36 PM
I dreaded watching this one again, but I did. Still an incredible episode. But so sad.

magictrick
April 12th, 2010, 07:54 PM
Incredible episode. Right up there with Meridian and Heroes Part 1 and 2.

Heroes trumps this episode for obvious reasons once you reach the later seasons of SGA.

I thought the episode tried to have the same impact as Heroes in SG-1 but came up short. I won't go into details of why, as it involves future episodes to come and the eventual decline of SGA, which has already been many a times in other threads.

Just analyzing the episode on its own, it was decent. The acting was good and you got to truly see Beckett in fine form at what he does best. The exploding tumor thing was kind of ridiculous but then again it is Sci-Fi so it becomes acceptable. I was just happy to see Beckett get center stage for once in an episode as he was a great character on the show.

gateship15
April 16th, 2010, 01:32 AM
i agree

Kentucky
May 10th, 2010, 02:34 PM
Saw Stargate Atlantis on Syfy a second ago so of course I started to watch... and then realized it was this episode and turned it off. I think this is one of the most brutal episodes to rewatch. Knowing what happens to Carson and then having to watch each and every one of his friends turn him down for the fishing trip is like getting kicked in the gut over and over.

PTree
May 12th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Saw Stargate Atlantis on Syfy a second ago so of course I started to watch... and then realized it was this episode and turned it off. I think this is one of the most brutal episodes to rewatch. Knowing what happens to Carson and then having to watch each and every one of his friends turn him down for the fishing trip is like getting kicked in the gut over and over.

Agreed. I don't ever want to watch this episode again. I just got into SGA this year, after having watched all 10 seasons of SG1 on DVDs borrowed from a friend. I feel as dolfyn does. Carson's death just ruined the rest of the season for me and most of the rest of the series. He was my second-favorite character, behind Shepard, and his death was so shocking to me. I never saw that coming, and it just threw me. Bringing him back they way they did was indeed too little, too late.

gateship15
May 18th, 2010, 05:12 PM
watched it again fantastic episode

Atlantis4Life
June 22nd, 2010, 01:00 AM
When I first saw Sunday (which was only last year), I'd only had a vague warning from a friend that it was a "sad episode" & that someone died; I had no idea that Paul/Carson was leaving. He was one of my 3 favourites, along with Sheppard & McKay. So I watched with a growing sense of dread & when it was Carson who died, I was very shocked & upset. After that, the remaining episodes of season 3 felt empty & hollow to me, & I really wasn't that keen to keep watching any further SGA seasons after that. I kept feeling that because Carson had died so suddenly & horribly, that I just couldn't emotionally invest in the other characters anymore; especially when Weir was also at death's door at the end of the season. :beckett14:
Then I found out that Carson was brought back, so I bought the box set of all 5 seasons just this year; & as I watched the first 3 seasons again I fell even harder for sweet lovable Carson (he became my top favourite) & cried even harder when I rewatched Sunday. :(
Although the little interactions & character developments were great in this episode, any good that did was quite literally blown away with the unnecessary death of Carson. Because he was the emotional core of the show, his removal took away the heart & left a big hole in the main cast interactions. :S
As far as I'm concerned, the ultimate destination of Sunday just completely permeates & ruins all the other good stuff in the episode. I want to love it but it just makes me too sad & angry, because it showcases the tossing away of a wonderful & loved character & a fantastic (& equally loved) actor. :mad:
The return of Carson was great, but it was too little too late, & certainly not enough to erase the pointlessly depressing conclusion to Sunday. :(

Feel the love.
dolfyn.
:beckett:


I'm feelin' the love, dolfyn (great sign-off). And, I feel your pain when it comes to Sunday. I didn't cry, but I was very shocked by that episode. I honestly don't remember watching the rest of the episodes from that season the first time around, even though I know I watched them because I was still thinking about what happened to Carson when I watched them. So, I wasn't really watching because I was distracted by such a major loss to the show. And, then they introduced a replacement just a couple of episodes later... They couldn't even wait until the next season. It was like Carson wasn't even cold in the grave (figuratively) and they were bringing in someone new like we were supposed to forget that soon...

Carson is my favorite character, too. I really believe that he was the heart of Atlantis. I have this idea of how everyone fit: Shep was the military leadership and the optimist (for the first 3 seasons, but that's another story), Teyla was the soul of Atlantis that provided a voice of reason, Ronon was the guts, Ford was the free spirit, Elizabeth was the diplomat, and McKay was the brains/pessimist. Everyone had a place, and together they were like one functioning body that was well-coordinated. Then, the heart got ripped out. How could they do that? It just didn't make sense. That's also when I think the series started its decline. Yes, we got a "heart transplant" with Keller, but it just wasn't the same... I have nothing against the actress, but I think that Carson Beckett will always be the rightful CMO of Atlantis. That's the way it should be in my humble opinion, and that's the way it should have stayed.

However, several months later I went ahead and watched those last 3 episodes of the season again and they were great. I was able to just focus on what was happening, and now Submersion and Vengeance are 2 of my favorite stargate episodes period. First Strike was a great episode as well. The only complaint that I have is that no one seemed to mourn Carson after Sunday. It was like they just forgot about him, even McKay. I believe that the McKay/Beckett friendship and its ongoing development was a major missed opportunity for the show.

The goodbye between Carson and Rodney at the end of Sunday was one of the BEST interactions on television between good friends that I've seen. It's classic. TPTB also did a great job at handling Carson's reintroduction in The Kindred Part 2 (another favorite episode of mine). But, if you were only to watch all of season 5, you'd never really know that Carson and Rodney were friends - EVER. That was annoying, to say the least, because I really liked that friendship. Oh, well...

*sigh* Getting back to Sunday, it really is a strong episode (outside of the exploding tumor thing) if you watch it once the shock of Carson's premature death subsides. For some people that doesn't happen, but I was able to watch the episode for what it was worth a few months after initially seeing it. That's when I really started to like the episode. On the one hand, you have Carson's unfortunate exodus from Atlantis. But on the other hand, you have such great character interactions that were too few and far between on Atlantis in some respects. So, I watch that episode for the characters, and for the way that it showed how indispensable and irreplaceable Carson was right before his exit. It's bittersweet. But if you focus on the sweet parts, the bitter parts aren't so bitter. That's my take on Sunday.


And, I hope you're feeling the love too.

Cheers. :)

Elorendil
July 21st, 2010, 06:05 PM
This is the saddest episode of any of the Stargates that I have seen so far. Yes, Heroes was sad and I was completely shocked when Janet died, and I cried pretty hard about it. But that somehow was different. Carson was such a lovable character. He had real strength of character, and he was sweet, gentle, kind, compassionate and a wonderful friend and asset to the expedition. I think that the way he took everyone bailing on the fishing trip and how he was so good natured about really drove home how sweet he was. Insisting on removing the tumor even when he knew it could explode really emphasized how much he valued life and placed others ahead of himself. I think this is why his death had even more of an impact than Heroes did.

I don't think I will be able to watch this episode again for a very long time. For one thing, it reminded me too much of the death of my best friend, two years ago. I was going to take her out riding on the horses, but it rained and we put it off. Before we could do it, she died without any warning. It's funny how we all know that each time we say goodbye to someone, it could be for the last time, but deep down, we don't really believe that a healthy young person could die so abruptly. This episode was a very harsh reminder of the cruel, cold reality of our mortality. Seeing Carson go was like a kick in the gut. He was a large part of what really drew me to the show, and it won't be the same without him. We will see if the rest of the series can hold my interest, without him.

TennisMennis
July 26th, 2010, 10:45 AM
this was a great episode

I completely agree, but I "REALLY" hated saying goodbye to Carson, especially now knowing he didn't want to leave. I'm sure the decision was made to replace him with someone who might bring in more viewers, but I don't think it worked.

mrscopterdoc
September 5th, 2010, 02:56 PM
One of the most saddest episodes ever. :( Carson is dearly missed and I still don't understand why he left the show.

Falcon Horus
September 6th, 2010, 11:01 AM
One of the most saddest episodes ever. :( Carson is dearly missed and I still don't understand why he left the show.

Because Paul McGillion was booted out. It wasn't his choice to leave.

mrscopterdoc
September 6th, 2010, 03:52 PM
Well, that just sucks and makes it even worse. What is wrong with these people getting rid of good charactors? *pouts*

jelgate
September 6th, 2010, 03:53 PM
Well, that just sucks and makes it even worse. What is wrong with these people getting rid of good charactors? *pouts*

What is a good character to you is dead weight to someone else.

Kenton-Atlantis
November 7th, 2010, 07:25 PM
Well, that just sucks and makes it even worse. What is wrong with these people getting rid of good charactors? *pouts*

I know it confuses me Why they would ask him to leave but then bring him back ! He is a great character and everyone who watches stargate would agree... Killing him off only made the show a bit better though ! it brought a serious side that i never seen coming ! great episode really enjoyed it had to watch it again last night :)

Falcon Horus
November 8th, 2010, 09:45 AM
They didn't ask Paul McGillion about killing off Beckett, they just did and they regretted that act, and brought in the clone. :S

maneth
January 25th, 2011, 10:56 AM
Oh dear, it was in its way a good episode but I hated to see the end of Carson. :(

Atlantis4Life
January 26th, 2011, 04:11 AM
What is a good character to you is dead weight to someone else.

Hey! No talking about Keller in this thread. :P




Oh dear, it was in its way a good episode but I hated to see the end of Carson. :(

So true, my friend. So true... :( Beckett was the BEST!!!

jelgate
January 26th, 2011, 05:48 AM
Hey! No talking about Keller in this thread. :P





So true, my friend. So true... :( Beckett was the BEST!!!

Since Keller didn't appear until a few episodes later its quite apparent I wasn't talking about her.

Tiptronic
February 23rd, 2011, 06:26 PM
I was wondering why this topic had the mosts posts.. Its pretty obvious now that I just saw which episode this was. Incredibly heartbreaking episode, I'm pretty sure its the most heartbreaking episode of SGA...

Thank you Paul McGillion for the incredibly great acting.

mrscopterdoc
June 7th, 2011, 02:56 PM
They didn't ask Paul McGillion about killing off Beckett, they just did and they regretted that act, and brought in the clone. :S

well that sucks.

mathpiglet
June 10th, 2011, 04:56 PM
It was terrible to lose Carson, but it's still a good episode.

Do we ever see Mike, the scientist who had lunch with Elizabeth?

I hope Dr. Hewston got a lovely send off as well. I felt bad for her...she doesn't even appear to have a first name.

Falcon Horus
June 10th, 2011, 05:37 PM
Do we ever see Mike, the scientist who had lunch with Elizabeth?

Never mentioned again.


I hope Dr. Hewston got a lovely send off as well. I felt bad for her...she doesn't even appear to have a first name.

Never heard from her again either - much like almost everyone who happened to be the red shirt of any SGA episode.

mathpiglet
June 10th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Not surprising we don't see Dr. Hewston anymore since she exploded. :p

Falcon Horus
June 10th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Not surprising we don't see Dr. Hewston anymore since she exploded. :p

It's the thought that counts - something that SGA in general failed gigantically with.

mathpiglet
June 10th, 2011, 05:48 PM
Poor Dr. Hewston. Sigh.

Dr. Carson Beckett
June 25th, 2011, 11:16 AM
Incredibly heartbreaking episode, I'm pretty sure its the most heartbreaking episode of SGA...

Agreed, the hardest part of the episode for me to watch was the final scene of McKay and "Beckett" saying goodbye. David Hewlett's performance really epitomized the loss more than any other character.

hedwig
June 25th, 2011, 11:36 AM
They didn't ask Paul McGillion about killing off Beckett, they just did and they regretted that act, and brought in the clone. :S

And didn't he only find out when he got the script for that episode?

At least in SG1, "Heroes", they had the decency to tell Teryl Rothery ahead of time they were going to kill Janet (at least that's what I read in an article about it). It's a shame they couldn't have done the same for Paul.

garhkal
July 2nd, 2011, 12:25 AM
In that case, one wonders when the decision to kill off carson was made??

Sue_Jackson
September 22nd, 2011, 07:45 PM
Just finished watching this episode. I've watched this episode like a gazillion times, and even to this day, it still makes me cry. :( Even...while watching with commentaries...I find myself weeping at the end. Such a sad episode. The scene with Rodney talking to Carson's spirit is just so touching...brings me to tears everytime. :sheppardanime32:

Okaina
November 5th, 2011, 12:58 AM
No, no, no! Just watched this episode.. Oh god even I with my stone cold heart started crying! He was my favourite character since ep. 1, why why why :(

Falcon Horus
November 5th, 2011, 05:47 AM
No, no, no! Just watched this episode.. Oh god even I with my stone cold heart started crying! He was my favourite character since ep. 1, why why why :(

To answer this very simple question:

Jennifer Keller

To shake things up and what better way than to kill off a character with an exploding tumor in an episode that deals with a day off.

Arica15
November 11th, 2011, 10:37 AM
To answer this very simple question:

Jennifer Keller

To shake things up and what better way than to kill off a character with an exploding tumor in an episode that deals with a day off.

Because it just had to be done......or because they had run out of ideas for the character......or because they wanted to shake things up.........because they wanted to increase the risk factor for every character...or....well I could go through every reason TPTP gave at various junctions but I rather agree with Falcon's analysis........

jelgate
November 11th, 2011, 01:38 PM
To answer this very simple question:

Jennifer Keller

To shake things up and what better way than to kill off a character with an exploding tumor in an episode that deals with a day off.Do we really have proof that adding Keller was the reason for him dying? Its obvious that a doctor was going to be added when the writers choose to kill Carson off but I have never seen proof that they killed him just to add the Keller character and Jewel Staite to the cast

Falcon Horus
November 11th, 2011, 03:24 PM
Do we really have proof that adding Keller was the reason for him dying? Its obvious that a doctor was going to be added when the writers choose to kill Carson off but I have never seen proof that they killed him just to add the Keller character and Jewel Staite to the cast

We don't need proof - just watch the show.

jelgate
November 11th, 2011, 04:54 PM
We don't need proof - just watch the show.If you are going to make the claim that Carson was killed off to add Keller then of course you are going to need proof.

LT. COL. John Sheppard
January 13th, 2012, 12:24 AM
i was sooooooooooooooooooooooooo sad to see carson go
for me it was the same as when Dr Fraiser died in season 7
RIP

Falcon Horus
January 13th, 2012, 09:45 AM
Both went with a bang... :p

LT. COL. John Sheppard
January 13th, 2012, 06:07 PM
Both went with a bang... :p
well janet's was a smaller bang notably

Darian
June 10th, 2012, 05:21 AM
One of the best and saddest episodes I have ever seen brings me to tears even when I read the transcript

Lythisrose
August 21st, 2012, 08:29 PM
Joe Mallozzi's Blog (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/august-21-2012-the-curious-case-of-the-unapproved-comment-news-of-note-days-of-stargate-atlantis-past-sunday/)entry:
SUNDAY (317)

Martin Gero had wanted to tell an atypical story for quite a while. Essentially, it would be an episode that spotlighted our character during their off-hours. No off-world missions. No threat to Atlantis. Just a series of slice-of-life vignettes. But Executive Producer pointed out that, as interesting as such a story might be to hardcore viewers, the general audience would be bored to tears. Martin needed to find a way to tell his story within the parameters of the established SGA template. And, after significant consideration, the writers came up with a solution.

Like most any episode some things worked for me (the non-linear narrative, David Helwett’s performance, the shocking turn) while others did not (the mysterious Mike Branton who disappears after this episode never to be mentioned again, explosive tumors). Still, as sad as I was to see Beckett (and the terrific Paul McGillion go), I thought this was a great episode that effectively delivered on the initial premise Marty G. had envisioned – a peek at our all-too human heroes and the uncertainty of life.

The plan was to give the character of Dr. Cole a more prominent role on Atlantis moving forward but, when this proved unfeasible, the search was on for a new CMO.

Unlike some fans, I never read the final McKay/Beckett scene as an indication that Carson had ascended and I’m quite certain that wasn’t the intent. Nevertheless, the discussion and Carson’s fade away ranks right up there with ascended Daniel’s goodbye and walk through the gate as one of the most emotionally devastating moments in Stargate history.

Hmmmm. I think I’ve got an idea for our next poll.

Falcon Horus
August 22nd, 2012, 01:19 PM
The plan was to give the character of Dr. Cole a more prominent role on Atlantis moving forward but, when this proved unfeasible, the search was on for a new CMO.

Not enough crowd to follow the actress in her more prominent role.

Too bad Jewel didn't bring along more Browncoats either... :rolleyes:

Arica15
August 22nd, 2012, 01:32 PM
My response to Joe's blog on Sunday.......

GRRRRRR!

But since I'm now going to my happy place every time someone mentions Sunday I'll leave it there.

Falcon Horus
August 22nd, 2012, 01:55 PM
But since I'm now going to my happy place every time someone mentions Sunday I'll leave it there.

Pretend it never happened... works wonders, I tell ya! ;)

jelgate
August 22nd, 2012, 06:29 PM
I quite like this episode. Yes the notion of explosive tumors is laughable in the areas of science. But at the same time their are a lot of concepts in Stargate and science fiction in general that are contradicted by science. I like the MG idea of showing what everyone does in their off time. It also shows their is no such thing as off time for the Atlantis crew. Even on their supposed off day they are rushed to take charge of the situation. What was interesting while showing the crew's relaxation hobbies (ie Shep golfing) we got to learn new attributes about the characters. I never knew about Weir's isolation before this episode or how Teyla was such good friends people outside the team. Previous episodes had painted a picture (ie Sateda) had painted a picture that Teyla and Ronon were isolated because they are not from Earth. As for Beckett dying I really liked It stuck a emotional cord that I think was done quite beautifully. I was never a Beckett fan so I was not disappointed to see him gone and I think their was nice showing of how the team was devasted to see their friend die and McKay suffering through survivor's guilt. It is a common reaction after a loved one dies and given McKay's personality it makes sense for him. As the end scene I don't think it was Beckett ascending but McKay's subconscious as Beckett to make McKay realize it was an accident and their was nothing he could do

Lythisrose
August 23rd, 2012, 09:31 AM
A couple of questions about this episode Joe Mallozzi replied to on his blog (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/august-22-2012-cos-effect-days-of-stargate-atlantis-past-submersion-mailbag/):

Anonyous J also writes: “But two people died (Carson and the standing-much-closer-to-the-bomb soldier) where one had been in danger (tumor guy), and only one of them got this great big over the top send off (they lose people every week, but I guess they only pull out the stops for those whose names are in the credits – yeah, yeah, redshirts) that glossed over his role in his own death and that negated his actual show history.”

Answer: I expect they held funerals for every member of the Atlantis expedition that died in service but we – the viewer – only saw Carson’s funeral because we were more emotionally invested in his character.

Anonymous J also writes: “Nobody ever complained about him – really? Never? Nobody thought the retrovirus was a bad idea? He was head of a department and never pissed anyone off? Oy.”

Answer: It’s not as if Carson went rogue, developing the retrovirus on his own. It was a project sanctioned by the Atlantis command. Also, there’s a difference between disagreeing with someone and complaining about them. The latter goes to character and is far more personal. He probably did piss some people off over the course of his time on Atlantis, but clearly not to the point where someone would raise the point at his funeral (“Yeah, he was brilliant and all but that time he cut in front of me in the mess line…what an *******.”)

Anonymous J also writes: “And I still have no idea what the point of that last scene with McKay was. I’m not even sure the writer had a point in mind.”

Answer: I believe it afforded McKay (and, by extension, the audience) the opportunity to say goodbye.

Falcon Horus
August 23rd, 2012, 09:36 AM
Answer: I expect they held funerals for every member of the Atlantis expedition that died in service but we – the viewer – only saw Carson’s funeral because we were more emotionally invested in his character.

Does he mean "them" or "us"? :rolleyes:

jelgate
August 23rd, 2012, 09:38 AM
It was obvious he was talking about the audience. We don't really care about some random redshirt dieing

Falcon Horus
August 23rd, 2012, 09:46 AM
It was obvious he was talking about the audience. We don't really care about some random redshirt dieing

They might not, I do. Then again, I'm the odd one out and not Mallozzi's best friend either. :rolleyes:

jelgate
August 23rd, 2012, 09:58 AM
Then look at it from a whole viewers angle. Are random viewers really going to care about a one episode character dieing?

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
August 23rd, 2012, 05:02 PM
Just got done watching the episode, it was a sad but decent episode. I hope Carson returns later in the series, he was a cool guy. I loved it when Joe's (Mallozzi) name was mention by Zelenka (the character's name was Dr. Mallozzi). I give it a ***.

Two more episodes, and then the 2 month wait until it airs on Sci-Fi.
God that was a cheap death. I have a rule, there's no right way to kill someone off. This was one of them. The bomb should've gone off as (or before) handed to tumor bomb off, not as he was walking away.

Tomorrow, an underwater station.

Lieutenant Sparrow
August 24th, 2012, 06:44 AM
NOOO! :( I hate seeing this ep.

Beckett is one of my favourite characters. And to see him go in such a cheap way really sucks. I felt so sorry for him going around looking for a fishing buddy. It seemed everyone but him had someone.

Explosive tumours. That's just plain scary.

Oh well at least he went out with a bang.

Oh god I'm so sorry.

Arica15
August 24th, 2012, 06:58 AM
NOOO! :( I hate seeing this ep.

Beckett is one of my favourite characters. And to see him go in such a cheap way really sucks. I felt so sorry for him going around looking for a fishing buddy. It seemed everyone but him had someone.

Explosive tumours. That's just plain scary.

Oh well at least he went out with a bang.

Oh god I'm so sorry.

I imagine they thought they were being oh so clever and creating pathos by suggesting that you should always make time for friends because you never know when they are going to be wiped out by a lame plot contrivance.......

I think we can sum the whole disaster up by saying the writers had better ideas.

Falcon Horus
August 24th, 2012, 09:11 AM
Then look at it from a whole viewers angle. Are random viewers really going to care about a one episode character dieing?

Damn, you got me... *bows to wisdom*

Krisz
August 27th, 2012, 04:02 PM
As someone not so invested emotionally in SGA this episode didn't have the impact that Janet's death in SG-1 and Riley's in SGU had for me. I suppose I'd have to put it down to the frankly ridiculous way Carson met his end. All I could see were people trying to keep a straight face as they talked about yet another weird Ancient weapon, exploding tumours!

Honestly, for me it ruined an otherwise entertaining episode where we shared a day with people on Atlantis actually having a day off, and showing they have a life outside of work! How else would we have ever seen Ronon's unorthodox but effective golf swing?!!! But, as always I guess something has to blow up and take out a few people to make an episode 'interesting'! :rolleyes: :P

Carson was a likeable character and that gave more of an impact as far as drama goes. The scene at the end was a good one for McKay in a way, it showed that he did care for certain people. This was always nice to see.

Matt G
August 30th, 2012, 04:55 AM
Midweek, another ep of Atlantis...

1. Watching this ep first time round was wierd. Rewatching it is even wierder:

Particularly as we know he'll be back

2. Some cool character moments still though.

3. Including chars hanging out with peeps we didn't know.

Seeya around Carson.

Jae'a
September 22nd, 2012, 10:07 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/71864.html)
Was not looking forward to this one, (Carson's my fave) but kinda glad I got it over with now...

Aang
September 24th, 2012, 09:12 PM
I only really sat down and watched SGA starting around 3 or 4 weeks ago...and by the time I reached this episode, I'd already fallen head over heels for the Scotsman. I eagerly awaited the chance to watch each new episode and keep a keen eye out for the appearance of Dr. Carson Beckett. Little did I know...I loved 90% of the episode, how sweet and funny he was about Dr. Weir's date and all...

And then to see the explosion and just kind of know he was gone after that. I mean, when Janet died in SG-1, she died off-world working on a patient and it was feasible to believe she'd been killed by an errant staff blast and Daniel had been too shocked to jump in and save her...and drama had ensued all over the SGC befitting the situation.

Come on though. They're in the Pegasus galaxy in the Lost City of Atlantis...and an exploding tumor kills Dr. Beckett. It left me thinking WTF? There was nothing more...Ancient-y (to steal a word from Sheppard here) that could have killed him? That sounded sort of like the explosive bomb that Nirrti had planted in Cassandra back in SG-1, more Goa'Uld than Ancient...

I cried at the end of that episode, during the McKay/Beckett-spirit moment. I was pretty crushed that I wouldn't be seeing Dr. Beckett rushing to the aid of the next patient or working through the night on a cure for whatever Wraith disease McKay or Shep brought back next...or even asking McKay to come up with a different solution while sitting in the Ancient Chair at the ready. I gave in and searched for spoilers to the following seasons and cheered myself with the fact that Dr. Beckett would be back (even if it was a clone) but I can't wrap my mind around Dr. Keller as CMO yet and I'm now in Season 5 already.

I know they wouldn't kill off Beckett to add Keller. She's just...not. I don't know what she isn't but there's definitely something about her that doesn't add up to replacing Beckett with her. I don't mind her, I just can't really get comfortable with her being the CMO on Atlantis for some reason. Maybe because Beckett wouldn't have said there was nothing more he could do until the patient literally died, hence how the good Doc himself died...refusing to leave a patient even at the risk of his own life.

Cluas
February 19th, 2013, 01:37 PM
This episode was brilliantly made, I just love the way the story jumps back in the chronology. And with much suspense.

Cool to watch the team in "civil"
I was never a big fan of Carson (well I liked the actor, but not the character), but I was surprised he was just written out like that... Sad ending, but a good episode.

:beckettanime04:

Baron Of Hell
September 1st, 2013, 02:30 AM
I liked this episode. Always nice to get different look on the characters. The small bit with Ronin was particularly touching.

The first time I seen this I recall debating with people whether or not Carson was ascended or not because of that last bit with Mckay.

Dusty_Dog_01
March 21st, 2014, 05:10 AM
Just a stupid, off the wall observation! If this has already been addressed, please forgive me (sort of new here), but has or did anyone notice in Season 3's, Episode 17 entitled " Sunday " the reference to Lt. Col. John Shepherd hitting two golf balls off of Atlantis just like Alan Shepard hit two golf balls off of the moon during the Mercury Seven expedition from January 31 – February 9, 1971? Was there any correlation to this being written in the script?

Falcon Horus
March 21st, 2014, 11:45 AM
Can't help since I have no clue what it is you're talking about.

Twi'lek
April 4th, 2014, 01:07 PM
As a character episode I thought it was very good. I loved seeing everyone relaxed on a day off and getting some insight on their private lives. But what happened to Carson was the worst.
@Dusty_Dog... I have no idea about the golf balls. Never thought about it.

j7n
April 21st, 2014, 11:46 AM
I'm not going to read the comments above because I don't yet know if Dr. Beckett will return or not. That would be a major spoiler to know early.

I already expressed a similar opinion in this thread a few years ago. This episode is among the worst and can compare with with the joke stories from SG-1, like 'Wormhole Extreme' or '200', and what was the story with thie joker doctor who went on to rescue the SG team who were captured on purpose. Sunday sucked.

A couple things in this episode made no sense, as if they came from an illusion created by a Nanovirus or a Stamped Personality. First, why would the entire base be taken off duty all at once as opposed to personell getting leaves in order? Dr. Heightmayer needs her head examined, preferably after receiving a one-way ticket to Earth. Then of course the Explosive Tumours. That has to be the most implausible threat and method to die, ever. I don't know how Ronan Dex managed to keep a straight face.

I mean no disrespect to Carson Beckett. I quite liked this character. And because of that I believe he should not have died in a Humour Episode. There are so many better ways to do it.

1. A few weeks back we had a man develop aneurism from acoustic vibrations and prolonged headache. Much better.

2. The entire team were taken hostage by Kolya who, unlike other villains, was ready to pull the trigger and kill people. He was shown doing it. A much better way to die. Of course we know that primary characters will never be shot, and if they are, they will soon get resurrected. But making exceptions to that law would allow the show to become less predictable. They could have killed Carson then.

3. Rodney McKay his DNA altered by an ascension machine and was on the threshold of death. If they wanted to kill McKay that would have been an awesome way to do it. Carson Beckett could have died there while a) attempting to operate the machine to save McKay, or b) while preventing the joker Sheppard from entering it.

But no. It had to be Explosive Tumours. Come on. Throwing stupid jokes like that destroys the believability of the world just like leaving snickers wrappers (http://forum.gateworld.net/threads/68675-snickers-wrapper-on-an-alien-ship!) around.

Sunday sucks. 2/10.

Falcon Horus
April 24th, 2014, 04:19 PM
A couple things in this episode made no sense, as if they came from an illusion created by a Nanovirus or a Stamped Personality. First, why would the entire base be taken off duty all at once as opposed to personell getting leaves in order?

It was a day off... what's wrong with that? :S


Dr. Heightmayer...

And due to it being in Jelgate's Book of Gateworld Law*

* The exact words I cannot remember but I am bound by the fourth law to talk Kate if the opportunity arises, and also when it doesn't. :p

It's Heightmeyer, but you probably don't care for such finer details.

jelgate
April 24th, 2014, 04:34 PM
That was so long ago I forget the laws. Their were a few pro/anti laws too to mock the stupidity of those threads

Falcon Horus
April 24th, 2014, 04:43 PM
Great, you misplaced your laws... :S ...now we'll run amock.

Az'ryel
May 3rd, 2014, 03:26 AM
I watched this ep once and won't do it again...
To me it's one of the worst of the whole show, for obvious reasons

mrscopterdoc
August 20th, 2014, 06:20 PM
I still cry when I watch this episode. I miss Carson.

losernerdfriend
March 28th, 2016, 09:57 PM
I knew about this episode, and it was one of the reasons I never finished watching SGA. Carson was one of my favorite characters of all of Stargate.

Really sad. I can't really give my thoughts on this episode. It was a really interesting way they took the direction of this episode -- in the way they let the story unfold.

I didn't understand/like the Carson/Rodney scene at the end. Like it was a way to absolve Rodney of his guilt over Carson's death, but it was a bit of an injustice IMO to Carson's death. Just my thoughts. >.<

Overall it was a good episode tho. I can def wait to watch it again tho. Haha.

Falcon Horus
March 29th, 2016, 01:28 AM
Whoever came up with the exploding tumor should still be shot to the moon... :S

losernerdfriend
March 29th, 2016, 09:26 AM
FOR REAL THO! Not impressed.

garhkal
November 1st, 2016, 12:08 AM
Rewatched this ep, and was laughing at the golf ball driving range. Do they care that they are polluting the water with all those sinking golf balls they are hitting??

Falcon Horus
November 1st, 2016, 04:10 AM
Maybe they are biodegradable balls.

Az'ryel
February 7th, 2017, 01:12 PM
Whoever came up with the exploding tumor should still be shot to the moon... :S

Agreed.
That was such a stupid idea, and I get sad if I only think about this ep still :(

John's PuddleJumper
August 19th, 2018, 01:57 PM
Hi everyone!

I love and hate Sunday, love it coz Lorne is in his dress blues, yum :D Hate it coz Carson dies :S

My question, can anyone tell me what medals Lorne is wearing/earnt during his military service, I need it for my fanficition story. which FYI is GW's fault coz I started writing coz people on here gave me ideas! :D :D :D

TIA

MonicaL
August 19th, 2018, 02:44 PM
That exploding tumor was such a stupid plot point. And I'd really like to know who thought that essentially recreating a form of Nirrti's experimentation with Cassie to kill Carson was a brilliant idea??

Razibot
May 23rd, 2020, 04:13 PM
****.

Falcon Horus
May 23rd, 2020, 04:47 PM
****.

Pardon their French.... :p

Gatefan1976
May 23rd, 2020, 05:05 PM
Mon Dieu!!

Razibot
May 24th, 2020, 01:11 AM
Pardon their French.... :p

I thought at least a few letters would pass but no... :o


Anyway
What's even the point now...

Gatefan1976
May 24th, 2020, 01:17 AM
I thought at least a few letters would pass but no... :o


Anyway
What's even the point now...

Dude, we are mucking around, chill bro, chill.

Razibot
May 24th, 2020, 03:55 PM
The second part of my message was about what happened in the episode !
I'm only jocking around as well

Falcon Horus
May 24th, 2020, 04:33 PM
Ah, but you should really see what happens next... and make this episode look like an absolute waste of time to the point of why even do it in the first place.