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Originally posted by ZakeD View PostYou see no need for name calling, yet you call him a small and petty person, and then tell him too piss off? Doesn't that make you as bad as you think he is? I don't see why you people are making such a big deal about it. It's global warming. It has nothing to do with stargate.
but any who i deleted that post
and i'm sorry for getting annoyed AJT, i just don't like unneccessary name calling so lets call it quits...
and i do see your points they are valid and deserve looking into but i just think the method could be betterRobert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
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Originally posted by ZakeD View PostI have a question. If the Ori were destroyed, how would their followers find out? The priors would know, but what would prevent them from keeping that information hidden from Origins followers?
Well, I suppose that leaves us in very much the same position as we were in before, though at least the number of Priors would freeze. That's something.
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Originally posted by Andrew Joshua Talon View Post... Again, good question. Much more difficult conundrum than it seems, hm?
Well, I suppose that leaves us in very much the same position as we were in before, though at least the number of Priors would freeze. That's something.
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Originally posted by Buba uognarf View Postactually i wasn't name calling, i said that name calling shows that he's small and petty - e.g. he's being petty and small by resorting to name calling and piss off statement was because i think that there's no point jumping into a thread just to call names (although he did raise valid points in the beginning)etc...
but any who i deleted that post
and i'm sorry for getting annoyed AJT, i just don't like unneccessary name calling so lets call it quits...
and i do see your points they are valid and deserve looking into but i just think the method could be better
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Originally posted by Andrew Joshua Talon View PostThe method could always be better. The principles are rarely unsound.Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
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Ok here is one design for a cargo ship
Specs:
Size:
The size is 15 meters wide by 100 meters lenght by 10 meters depth
Weapons/Defense:
The weapons and the defense are one in the same. this ship is outfitted with no offensive weapons. But the shields are repulsive shields, like the one in Window of Opportunity, it will repluse any shots fired at it back in the opposite direction. the hull is also strong, its a titainum-trinium alloy
Capcity for Cargo:
The capcity for cargo is 250,000 cubic feet, weight is not a factor unless it is caring a massive amount of super heavy material
Power:
a Mark II reactor
Pulpulsion:
The ship has two very power sub-light engine and two hyper-drive
engines
Others:
Beaming technology
To get the sketchup model --->Click Me!
Spoiler:
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Can i just say i am open for this history to be edited and rewriten, i have never seen eye to eye with AJT, we have more rows than anyone, i respect him but rarely agree. If people dont like what ive done then im ok with that, it wasnt exactly my biggest moment in postign history. If you want to change and rewrite it, then do so.
As to the Ori, priors, adria, ships etc..i really was just doing what needed to be done, the ancients solving everything with the asgard seemed the best course, without us having to actually find a way to defeat the Ori on our which would take a whole lot of backstory. that i dont have time to make up.sigpic
You are the fifth race, your role is clear, if there is any hope in preserving the future it lies with you and your people ~ 8years for those words
Stargate : Genesis | Original Starship DesignThread Sanctuary for all | http://virtualfleet.vze.com/
11000! green me
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X-512A Adder
Description
A gate capable fighter, the hull of the ship is made of a trinium-titanium-aluminum alloy wraped in carbon fiber composite for added strength.
Armerment
2 light pulse laser cannons
1 light rail gun
Armor
Covered with easily replacable tiles that help absorb some of the energy from enegry weapons
Shield Generator
Engines
Main engine is on the ring which is a tauri-asgard mix developed by the scientists of earth.
Secondary engine on platform
Crew
1 pilot
Other notes
The platform can break way from the ring in emergency.
Can land on flat surfaces with use of internal landing gear, although in hangars it uses a special landing pad that holds it securely in place.
To componsate for the lack of visiblility, a powerful radar/sensor/camera package is instaled at various points on the ship for complete visibility. The pilot wheres a helemt that has a HUD and allows him to see in 360 degree shpere.
Not hyperspace capable(it goes throught the gate!)
X-512 Adder
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Background
A ship that quickly and easily be deployed and operate off world and in space was need to help support ground troops and achieve air supremecy. The designers designed this fighter which goes through the stargate with one foot of spare room to fit throught the gate. It has proven its self as an excelent space combat adn atmosphereic fighter, but it is not the best of ground attack fighters as the whole ship must be oriented toward the ground, develpoers are working on designing a ship that has bottom mounted retcractable rail gun, but speed and manuverablility will be effected.Only once has a X-512A hit the gate as it was going through. The couse was a spike in power on the port side engine whoch caused the ship to swerve violently. Hte pilot was able to release the platform from the ring and continued throught the gate and crashlanded at the Alpha Site which the base of operations for the X-512As.Last edited by Dr. Who; 29 November 2006, 04:33 PM.Oh, believe me its not the first time we tried it
I shot him...
in the leg...
I'm invulnerable!
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Here's my design for 2 unmanned fighters; a hyperspace and a gate capable fighter.
Name: UMSF- unmanned space fighter
Role: Defense of ships and planets and strike craft
Height: 6’ 11”
Length: 31.5’
Wingspan: 30’
Armament: 12 (6 on each side) 3” diameter K-naquadah missiles each with a one-kiloton
warhead
6 human built staff cannons
2 Mark-3 nukes
Power plant: Mark-1 naquadah generator
Engines: two small, gravity drives, 8 small maneuvering thrusters
Small short-range hyperdrive (capable of short bursts of a few billions miles {a short distance by space standards})
Shields: low-powered human designed shields
Alternate design: UMGF- unmanned gate fighter
Gate capable fighter for the defense of ships and planets and strike craft
Height: 6’ 11”
Length: 31.5’
Wingspan: 10’ (or just skinny enough to fit through the stargate.)
Armament: 6 K-naq missiles
4 human built staff cannons
Power plant: Mark-1 naquadah generator
Engines: two small, gravity drives, 8 small maneuvering thrusters
Shields: low-powered human designed shields
The UMSASGF was designed for the defense of planets and ships. If a hostile ship is detected, the fighter will intercept it and distract it long enough for the attacked ship to make it to safety or hold the enemy back long enough for reinforcements to arrive.
The lack of pilot allows life-support systems and the cockpit to be excluded from the designs, saving space and energy for weapons, shields, and engines. The ship can also be considered disposable, going where no human dares.
The UMSASGF is popular with civilian vessels as a cheap means of defense. If a freighter is attacked by pirates, then it can deploy the fighters. The fighters will engage the pirates until the freighter can escape, then the fighters make a micro jump to a predetermined location for pick-up.
The fighters can also be used by the military to attack a target. Carriers can jump near the target and the fighters can micro jump the rest of the way, leaving the carriers in safety.Quacks
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ok guys and gals, as i think mentioned i'm currently designing and modeling a Tau'ri flagship - The Nemisis Class...
what do you think is an approtiate size and what do you think is the MAXIMUM size it should be?
bear in mind i want this to be massive...
(and i do realize this will probably be the last thing we vote on, i just wanted to get a head start )Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
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Hey Dr.who i like your ship but i think it shouldnt be gate based, the ring around the edge could be a hyperspace engine which the craft uses, and then the main engine on the ship could be a ion engine. The main pod could be gate-able, but if they cant gate to a location then then can opt to use the hyperspace drive instead. Also turrent rail guns are pretty solid format in 2040 so you could at thoe and take the lasers away..
buba, i think the Maximum is 1.5kmL, but i would prefer it less than 1km long, in fact i think 1km should be the Maximum of the entire fleet. Even at this point in time we cant make ships that big.
Also the flagship doesnt have to be the most powerfull, it has to be the most important..sigpic
You are the fifth race, your role is clear, if there is any hope in preserving the future it lies with you and your people ~ 8years for those words
Stargate : Genesis | Original Starship DesignThread Sanctuary for all | http://virtualfleet.vze.com/
11000! green me
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