How fast do ships go when in hyperspace? The speed of light, twice the speed of light? Does it vary?
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Assuming that the Asguard galaxy is 2 million light years away (that how far Andromeda is, the actual value is likely higher) and that the travel time between it and Earth is 1 hour we find that the travel speed is 17,520,000,000 c (where 1 c is the speed of light). Or approx 17 billion times the speed of light so that fits with what aAnubiSs posted. I'd say this is a lower limit for their speed.
As for Goa'uld ... We've seen ships travel a relatively short distence within our galaxy in a matter of hours. Our galaxy is approx 100.000 in diameter. Let's say 1000 light years (the current alpha site is around 700 light years away) equate to about 8 hours then we get 1,095,000 c or approx 1 million times the speed of light. Again, given what we've seen in eps like The Serpants lair (201) I'd say that that is close to a lower bound.
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The Asgard are from the Galaxy of Ida, so I think it is a few million more lightyears away.
I also wondered about hyperspace speeds. My figuring of it relates it to internal combustion engines. The faster you go the faster you consume fuel. The Goauld/Asgard ships are probably very very fast, but when you have to go long distance you have to slow down as not to consume all your fuel.
Basically its a consumption rates problem. Even with a super power source you are still likely to deplete it over time. The Asgard obviously have a very powerful power plant that is meant for short intergalactic hyper fast trips, but it is unlikely that they could maintain those speed if they travelled to say Pegasus. In fact their engines might not be able to travel that far without consuming all of their fuel.
Its all well and good having a v8 engine, its FAST, but definitely not built for distance. The Asgard probably developed their engines purposely to make fast trips into our galaxy, which requires a short inter-galactic range but at incredible speeds. Even if well a fully fueled ship I doubt the Asgard could zip over to Pegasus even at the a slower pace without depleting the tanks so to speak.
I think the modifications that O'neill made to the Cargo ship were designed to remove the speed cap from the engines to allow it to pull in more power and therefore travel faster. The side effect being that it would damage the engines very quickly or deplete the powerplant in a very short time.
The cargo ship made a sprint across the galaxy and then to another galaxy. In a few days at hyperspeeds it wasted the engines completely. I think the Goauld are probably capable of travelling to other galaxies but don't see a need too. Plus any ship they would send would require quite a lot of spare parts and modifications to insure the ship survived long enough to get to another galaxy. The Mothership that Jacob,Carter,Sam,Jack,Daniel were on when they blow up the sun which carely capable of trans-galactic travel, but at a pace. This pace makes the travel unappealing to the Goauld. Though they would live long enough to complete the journey their Jaffas wouldn't. Especially a Goauld wouldn't risk it.
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Originally posted by jpf190279The Asgard are from the Galaxy of Ida, so I think it is a few million more lightyears away.
I also wondered about hyperspace speeds. My figuring of it relates it to internal combustion engines. The faster you go the faster you consume fuel. The Goauld/Asgard ships are probably very very fast, but when you have to go long distance you have to slow down as not to consume all your fuel.
Basically its a consumption rates problem. Even with a super power source you are still likely to deplete it over time. The Asgard obviously have a very powerful power plant that is meant for short intergalactic hyper fast trips, but it is unlikely that they could maintain those speed if they travelled to say Pegasus. In fact their engines might not be able to travel that far without consuming all of their fuel.
Its all well and good having a v8 engine, its FAST, but definitely not built for distance. The Asgard probably developed their engines purposely to make fast trips into our galaxy, which requires a short inter-galactic range but at incredible speeds. Even if well a fully fueled ship I doubt the Asgard could zip over to Pegasus even at the a slower pace without depleting the tanks so to speak.
I think the modifications that O'neill made to the Cargo ship were designed to remove the speed cap from the engines to allow it to pull in more power and therefore travel faster. The side effect being that it would damage the engines very quickly or deplete the powerplant in a very short time.
The cargo ship made a sprint across the galaxy and then to another galaxy. In a few days at hyperspeeds it wasted the engines completely. I think the Goauld are probably capable of travelling to other galaxies but don't see a need too. Plus any ship they would send would require quite a lot of spare parts and modifications to insure the ship survived long enough to get to another galaxy. The Mothership that Jacob,Carter,Sam,Jack,Daniel were on when they blow up the sun which carely capable of trans-galactic travel, but at a pace. This pace makes the travel unappealing to the Goauld. Though they would live long enough to complete the journey their Jaffas wouldn't. Especially a Goauld wouldn't risk it.
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32,000 times faster then light
and so on.
And I think hyperspace-speed is related to how much energy you put into the hyperspace window. I don't think the sublight engines has any part of it, since then the problem with c would still occur at high c.
Think of hyperspace a a apple, the more energy you put in the deeper into the apple you go, and hence has to travel a shorter distance around the core.
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Originally posted by jpf190279The Asgard are from the Galaxy of Ida, so I think it is a few million more lightyears away.
Originally posted by jpf190279I also wondered about hyperspace speeds. My figuring of it relates it to internal combustion engines. The faster you go the faster you consume fuel. The Goauld/Asgard ships are probably very very fast, but when you have to go long distance you have to slow down as not to consume all your fuel.
Basically its a consumption rates problem. Even with a super power source you are still likely to deplete it over time. The Asgard obviously have a very powerful power plant that is meant for short intergalactic hyper fast trips, but it is unlikely that they could maintain those speed if they travelled to say Pegasus. In fact their engines might not be able to travel that far without consuming all of their fuel.
Its all well and good having a v8 engine, its FAST, but definitely not built for distance. The Asgard probably developed their engines purposely to make fast trips into our galaxy, which requires a short inter-galactic range but at incredible speeds. Even if well a fully fueled ship I doubt the Asgard could zip over to Pegasus even at the a slower pace without depleting the tanks so to speak.
Does anyone recall if the distance to Ida was ever stated?
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Thor said that the Beliskner was equipped with four nutrino-ion generators. And that was one of their old ships. Unless you can explain how those types of generators produce energy, stop all of this "TEH ASGUARD WILL RUN OUT OF FUAL LOLZ" talkThor: The Asgard would never invent a weapon that propels small weights of iron and carbon alloys, by igniting a powder of potassium nitrate, charcoal and sulphur.
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Originally posted by aAnubiSsEveryone run out of fuel without a constant income of fuel, doesn't matter what reactors and technology you use.Thor: The Asgard would never invent a weapon that propels small weights of iron and carbon alloys, by igniting a powder of potassium nitrate, charcoal and sulphur.
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