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The Ringer
August 23rd, 2004, 09:05 AM
I know that the Gould steal technology, like the Stargates, from the Ancients and other races.

Where did they get their ships? Did they come from the Ancients (look different than the Puddle Jumpers) or another race?

Do they have the ability to build Stargates? They have them on their motherships, which I assume they build since we blow them up from time-to-time. I would imagine they need to build new ones.

If so, do they build them collectively or does each System Lord have his/her own Stargate/Ship factory out there?

Just some thoughts.

aschen
August 23rd, 2004, 09:18 AM
They build their own ships. They take bits and pieces of different race's technologies and integrate them with some duck tape and crazy glue.

They cannot built Stargates- they aren't smart enough. They just steal them from other, desolate planets and off they go.

From what we have seen, there are no factories. The ships are built one at a time. Can you imagine the sheer amount of raw material one would need to build a mothership?? Enslaved planets can only do so much! :D

[Hitokiri]Nguyen
August 23rd, 2004, 10:08 AM
Seems to me that they know how to build their own ships. They've reached interstellar power. There are supposedly different levels of power that experts say th future is starting to look like.

1. Nuclear
2. Interplanetery
3. Interstellar
4. Intergalactical

Or omething like that. The Goa'uld are at number 3, but they still aren't smart enough to go ahead of that. Especially when it comes to builbing Stargates, which is kind of between 3 and 4.

auir999
September 26th, 2004, 12:32 PM
yeah they build their own ships, you see them do so in a few episode, where sg-1 blows them up. As for them stealing the designs of the ships i doubt it. Perhaps they just used the stolen information to build a ship of their own (diff. design, same basic systems as the races they stole it from). As for gates, no the ancients built that crap, the system lords wouldn't and probably can't build one anyways

Erik Pasternak
September 26th, 2004, 12:50 PM
The Goa'uld rarely cooperate with each other, so if one Goa'uld develops some kick-a** technology, they aren't gonna share it with the rest of them, which makes it difficult to gauge how advanced the Goa'uld truely are.

auir999
September 26th, 2004, 12:53 PM
true but when you watch the episode with the protected planets treaty, lord Yu discovers that nirti has phase-shift tech. He then says "how dare you not share this new tech with the system lords" perhaps they have some sort of system worked out. Like if one holds back on tech, the others retaliate untill the tech. is shared.

Erik Pasternak
September 26th, 2004, 12:56 PM
I disagree, seeing as Anubis had all this cool tech that he never shared with the rest of the system lords. Apophis was the same way. Whoever doesn't have the tech will want it, thus explaining Lord Yu's comment.

auir999
September 26th, 2004, 12:59 PM
yeah but remember that Anubis was belived to be dead. No one knew he was back untill that summit meeting. Not to mention his new tech gave him a huge advantage. So the system lords had to unite anyways to kill him, not like they could do anything else

Erik Pasternak
September 26th, 2004, 01:01 PM
But even a year later, when the system lords were rallied against him, were they going out of there way to get his tech? Basically, if you're a system lord, and you get something cool, you keep it to yourself.

auir999
September 26th, 2004, 01:06 PM
thats true but if it is something little like the phase shift tech or even the sarcoughagus, then that doesn't give you a huge advantage in battle. So they could actually force them into handing it over. But if it was something like energy resistant armor, that when worn makes you invulnerable to any gou'ald weapon, yeah then theirs nothing anyone can do about it, he would just wipe em out. Well for the exception of becomming Anubis' biatch

auir999
September 26th, 2004, 01:08 PM
i almost forgot, after they found out about nirti attacking cronus during an asgaurd treaty, they took her forces and all her territory, So they can hav a sort of system that punishes system lords

Belerial
October 2nd, 2005, 04:42 PM
Nirti was cool, she was all about poisons and genetics, I liked her.
But i highly doubt she planned on handing out the recipie for a hok'tar (advanced human for hosts) so in the end the system lords would have just banded together and assasinated her. She would have gotten a hok'tar completed if those meddling kids hadn't stepped in. Eventually she'd have mass produced them. So basically you have several hundred beings rivaling anubis's power, in a different way, and a weakened gould. Her lack of jaffa would have made her desperate, and since everyone has read dune, we all know that a desperate enemy is the worst kind of enemy.
-erik

TrustNo1
October 2nd, 2005, 04:47 PM
Wasn't there an episode showing many slaves building a mothership and it was held up by anti gravity platforms and then SG-1 or rebel Jaffa destroyed it? I think season 7?

freyr's mother
October 2nd, 2005, 05:49 PM
Wasn't there an episode showing many slaves building a mothership and it was held up by anti gravity platforms and then SG-1 or rebel Jaffa destroyed it? I think season 7?

Yeah, its called Orpheus.

Brigadier General Pants
October 5th, 2005, 11:39 PM
I think whether or not the general attitude is to share tech, the bottom line is the power base shifts all the time with the System Lords. Hence, eventually one system lord will subsume another's territory, army and tech. So it gets spread around. Kind of like a wierd, alien osmosis.

And remember kids, sharing is caring.

Mclean
August 24th, 2008, 03:45 PM
The technology might be stolen but the ships are there own design!

Dark lord me
August 24th, 2008, 04:12 PM
The technology might be stolen but the ships are there own design!

Tip never respond to 3 year old dead posts just leave them dead:hallowed:

Womble
August 24th, 2008, 04:14 PM
The technology might be stolen but the ships are there own design!
You should consider career as an undertaker. With your habit of bringing dead things back to life, you'd be in demand.

stargater1990
August 25th, 2008, 01:52 PM
I know that the Gould steal technology, like the Stargates, from the Ancients and other races.

Where did they get their ships? Did they come from the Ancients (look different than the Puddle Jumpers) or another race?

Do they have the ability to build Stargates? They have them on their motherships, which I assume they build since we blow them up from time-to-time. I would imagine they need to build new ones.

If so, do they build them collectively or does each System Lord have his/her own Stargate/Ship factory out there?

Just some thoughts.

we know from a few episodes that the goauld build their own ships.

as for the stargates, they do not build them. the ones on their ships are just ones that they have taken from planets and put them on their ships. personally i think that the technology behind the stargates is too advanced for the goauld to build. they merel learned how to use them.