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ckwongau
September 16th, 2006, 08:07 AM
Does Asuran's Puddle jumper require ATA gene?

In episode "Progeny"
SGA team escape the Asuran city ship with one of the Asuran puddle jumper.

;) That jumper may be mention again in some future episode.

;) I wonder , how much different is there between an Asuran Puddle jumper and an Ancient Puddle jumper .

We know Asuran copy many Ancient tech and but modify it slightly,
like Niam claim they built a city far grander than the Ancient ever achieved .Or something like that.
And some people mention a white ZMP.

We may see some new feature in the Asuran Puddle jumper someday.
But Does Asuran Puddle jumper require ATA gene operator?

They don't have the gene, they are A.I make up of Nanite
i am sure they can interface with any Ancient Tech, but why would they built a jumper that require a gene that they don't have.

But
Since the Asuran are like replicator ,only more advance,Their nanites are able to reprodce using organic matter.(Like infecting Dr Weir's body )Replicator like Fifth and Replicator require Neutronium.
And they are so advance with potentially to even reach ascension.

When MCkay tried to rewrite their code he said :mckay:
"McKAY said : Still, we’re not dealing with rock-‘em sock-‘em robots here. We are dealing with a complex code of over three billion chemical base sequences. It’s like trying to reconfigure the D.N.A. double helix"

Maybe Asuran not only took their creator's form, but also imitate their gene too.
What if the people who failed the gene from the ATA gene therapy , like 50% of people , what if they can operate that jumper.Or Earth can study the jumper and learn how to reverse engineer Ancient tech and remove the ATA gene requirment.

rarocks24
September 16th, 2006, 08:22 AM
That jumper did look a bit different than ours. :S

Ltcolshepjumper
September 16th, 2006, 08:23 AM
Does Asuran's Puddle jumper require ATA gene?

In episode "Progeny"
SGA team escape the Asuran city ship with one of the Asuran puddle jumper.

;) That jumper may be mention again in some future episode.

;) I wonder , how much different is there between an Asuran Puddle jumper and an Ancient Puddle jumper .

We know Asuran copy many Ancient tech and but modify it slightly,
like Niam claim they built a city far grander than the Ancient ever achieved .Or something like that.
And some people mention a white ZMP.
We may see some new feature in the Asuran Puddle jumper someday.
But Does Asuran Puddle jumper require ATA gene operator?

They don't have the gene, they are A.I make up of Nanite
i am sure they can interface with any Ancient Tech, but why would they built a jumper that require a gene that they don't have.

But
Since the Asuran are like replicator ,only more advance,Their nanites are able to reprodce using organic matter.(Like infecting Dr Weir's body )Replicator like Fifth and Replicator require Neutronium.
And they are so advance with potentially to even reach ascension.

When MCkay tried to rewrite their code he said :mckay:
"McKAY said : Still, we’re not dealing with rock-‘em sock-‘em robots here. We are dealing with a complex code of over three billion chemical base sequences. It’s like trying to reconfigure the D.N.A. double helix"

Maybe Asuran not only took their creator's form, but also imitate their gene too.
What if the people who failed the gene from the ATA gene therapy , like 50% of people , what if they can operate that jumper.Or Earth can study the jumper and learn how to reverse engineer Ancient tech and remove the ATA gene requirment.

Well, the 'white ZPM' isnt a ZPM. The actually interface that the white things were embedded in looked like the interface that the ZPM's go in, but I think they just held the nanites. Now, the Asuran puddle jumper was built exactly the same. it's probably built into the jumper that it requires the gene. It won't matter for them, though because they can interface with any tech. But, I doubt that it doesn't use the gene. It probably does.

wise one
September 16th, 2006, 09:37 AM
its possible it didnt have a ata gene operater could be just touch controlled liked when they activated the ships flying computer they just pressed a few buttons and whoom it flew

so possible just touch activated or that they built it the same but then they just stick their nanite hands in to the computer

Prior_of_the_Ori
September 16th, 2006, 04:10 PM
I dont think so personally...I mean if they are essentially a form of a cloud of nanites then they could just technically merge with the machine and make ti work regardless if it required a gene or not. I mean they are a machine race so presumably they could easily manipulate computers to their task.

Avenger
September 16th, 2006, 04:21 PM
The city and the puddle jumpers could be an actual ancient city that was taken over by the Asurans rather than something they built themselves.

freyr's mother
September 16th, 2006, 04:28 PM
That jumper did look a bit different than ours. :S
Yeah, it was missing a back door. :cool:

TheGreatLordGeorge
September 16th, 2006, 04:38 PM
the helm did look different to me for some reason, possibly

2ndgenerationalteran
September 16th, 2006, 04:41 PM
asuran clothes are made of nanites too. if they werent oberoth would have come out naked on the other side of the door. so i guess niam had the chance to infect shep ronnon and teyla too. :S

MarshAngel
September 21st, 2006, 12:15 PM
I can't think of a single good reason why they would build a PJ that required a gene that only the people they hate most in all the world would use. Now that he has flown the jumper we have to fanwank a good excuse for how he could fly it but I feel it's one of those details they overlooked and one that bothered me today while watching progeny again.

The madeup excuse: rather than being locked into a specific gene for security purposes, they made their PJs more generic so they responded to any control by man or machine.... just in case a bunch of humans needed to escape.

Ravroz
September 21st, 2006, 01:22 PM
If they didn't build it exactly like the Ancients with the gene required, then I wonder how John was able to fly it out of the city ship. It did look different in the controls than the Ancients puddle jumpers but the overall look was the same. You think the Asurans use drones like the Ancients did?

GreyFox
September 21st, 2006, 02:22 PM
You think the Asurans use drones like the Ancients did?


that's what i want to see

FallenAngelII
September 21st, 2006, 11:38 PM
If they didn't build it exactly like the Ancients with the gene required, then I wonder how John was able to fly it out of the city ship. It did look different in the controls than the Ancients puddle jumpers but the overall look was the same. You think the Asurans use drones like the Ancients did?

Because they still use the controls to fly the ship? And John's a great pilot?

ckwongau
September 22nd, 2006, 02:44 AM
If they didn't build it exactly like the Ancients with the gene required, then I wonder how John was able to fly it out of the city ship. It did look different in the controls than the Ancients puddle jumpers but the overall look was the same. You think the Asurans use drones like the Ancients did?
not require the ATA gene does not mean it exclude people with ATA gene

It mean everybody can use it ,that include people without ATA gene + people with ATA gene.

The Puddle jumper's computer can interface with the operator/pilot's mind.
If the jumper read the pilot's mind and able to give him what he want , the Jumper will do it.Like John wanted something to locate his people inside the Hive, the jumper computer gave him the Ancient locator device.When John tried to test it by thinking about a sandwich, he didn't get it becase the jumper doesn't have a kitchen.


I suspect the Asuran's Puddle jumper can interface with anybody's mind ,with or without ATA gene

Ravroz
September 22nd, 2006, 07:50 AM
I was thinking that if they didn't include the ata gene requirement then it could have been something to do with their make up. They could have made it in a way that only the Asurans could fly it.

wolfax
September 23rd, 2006, 02:44 AM
I was thinking that if they didn't include the ata gene requirement then it could have been something to do with their make up. They could have made it in a way that only the Asurans could fly it.

Then how did John, are you saying John is infected with nano's.

FallenAngelII
September 23rd, 2006, 12:32 PM
They're the Asurans. They're nanites. They're extremely hard to kill. Suffice to say, I don't think they're afraid the Wraith or some random Pegasus humans are going to wander into their city and into one of their jumpers (or if they're out in the field) and steal it from them.

Steve: "Hello, I am Steve. Die now!" *tries to feed. Fails miserably*
Asuran: "Eat hand!" *sticks hand into Steve's head*
Steve: "Argh!"
Asuran: *kills Steve by turning his other arm into a big blade.

Random Athosian: "Hello. I need your ship."
Asuran: "I am one of the Ancestors! Now jump off a cliff for me!"
Random Athosian: "OK!" *jumps off a cliff*

GateR_mk
October 19th, 2006, 11:38 AM
That jumper did look a bit different than ours. :S

Indeed, the control interfaces looked diffrent than the ones on both seasons of SGA and the SGC jumper//timejumper

Interesting. Maybe the ships have additional features that the Altantean Jumpers dont have... Only time will tell

:sheppard:

Cap116
October 20th, 2006, 06:43 AM
Indeed, the control interfaces looked diffrent than the ones on both seasons of SGA and the SGC jumper//timejumper

Interesting. Maybe the ships have additional features that the Altantean Jumpers dont have... Only time will tell

:sheppard:

If TPTB ever decide to show a difference or make a reference back to that PJ. I think it would be interesting if they brought that up in the show.