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LMICEVSKI
July 17th, 2006, 08:30 PM
where does the atlantis expedition laptops get there power from since there r no power sockets on atlantis? as far as i can c :tealc:

XJamesX
July 17th, 2006, 08:35 PM
Maybe power converters hooked up to naquida genorators. Or they just brought a bunch of batteries.

-James-

Avatar28
July 17th, 2006, 08:39 PM
I'm sure they've either laid out new power cables or found a way to tie in to Atlantis's power grid.

ussrelativity
July 17th, 2006, 08:48 PM
Very good question.

I'd give you green, but AGAIN the system won't let me.

GreyFox
July 17th, 2006, 08:53 PM
hmm i wonder how much hours can a zpm give a laptop

Avatar28
July 17th, 2006, 08:54 PM
Depends. Does it use a Pentium 4 or a Penium-M?

2ndgenerationalteran
July 17th, 2006, 09:04 PM
well, im guessing you dont get much internet connection there :D

ussrelativity
July 17th, 2006, 09:09 PM
Depends. Does it use a Pentium 4 or a Penium-M?

I would believe Pentium M, or any type of specially designed mobile chip.

Granted the notebooks are Dell manufactured, but who knows about the internal chip.

Bragi
July 17th, 2006, 09:11 PM
It's one of three things:

Magnets.

Rodney's ego.

Or magnets augmented by Rodney's ego.

Korean_Turtle87
July 17th, 2006, 09:28 PM
hmm i wonder how much hours can a zpm give a laptop
a heck of a lot of hours

DaCk
July 17th, 2006, 10:29 PM
Its called they created a converter that would power the things they brought

Centurion
July 18th, 2006, 01:17 AM
where does the atlantis expedition laptops get there power from since there r no power sockets on atlantis? as far as i can c :tealc:

They use a really long extension lead :)

Col. Shadow Quinn
July 18th, 2006, 01:17 AM
Solar power, that's the most logical explanation. And the Internet is recieved via subspace connection. Easier than magnets augmented by Rodney's ego.

freyr's mother
July 18th, 2006, 04:55 AM
Solar power, that's the most logical explanation. And the Internet is recieved via subspace connection. Easier than magnets augmented by Rodney's ego.
Speaking of solar power, they could use it during the day if they laid out a hell of a lot of solar panels on atlantis. That would let them use the naquadah generators for more pressing issues and the ZPM would be for emergencies only.

Syera
July 18th, 2006, 07:31 AM
Speaking of solar power, they could use it during the day if they laid out a hell of a lot of solar panels on atlantis. That would let them use the naquadah generators for more pressing issues and the ZPM would be for emergencies only.
Or wind power... fer pete's sake, they're on the open SEA!

Zatnikitelman
July 18th, 2006, 08:37 AM
In the Storm episodes from Season1, didn't they say that the halls carried low amounts of power around the city? Why not just run power leads from the nearest power-carrying-wall then to a small converter, then to a standard extension cord? Makes sense.

GreyFox
July 18th, 2006, 11:40 AM
Solar power, that's the most logical explanation. And the Internet is recieved via subspace connection. Easier than magnets augmented by Rodney's ego.


i wonder of the latency. must not be good for gaming. damn lol

waykins
July 18th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Maybe Sam or Rodney invented Naquadah batteries. Every thread I go on I keep hearing about Fracking magnets :D

GreyFox
July 18th, 2006, 12:14 PM
ignore them spammers. they just wanna spam to increase their post counts

Jimbo-DR
July 18th, 2006, 02:04 PM
I would assume they found a way to simply convert to their regular power outlets. I'm sure power generation for simple things in Atlantis isn't all that difficult, and Naquada generators power normal things like laptops without any strain at all, right?

wise one
July 18th, 2006, 02:33 PM
there are around over 500 personnel in atlantis and are maily all scientists. thats a heck load of laptops.

rarocks24
July 18th, 2006, 02:42 PM
there are around over 500 personnel in atlantis and are maily all scientists. thats a heck load of laptops.
And almost everybody brought both a laptop and a tablet pc.

On another note, how long would a naquadah battery last? ;)

ItsDan
July 19th, 2006, 03:58 AM
They installed a halon fire supression system in the city. That means running big 6" pipes through the floors and walls. If we leave the city, whoever shows up in 10,000 years is gonna be very very confused.

Either way, if they're installing that, I'm sure they could install some simple power lines. That's assuming they didn't convert the power available to the city already.

knowsfords
July 19th, 2006, 04:24 AM
It seems as if Atlantis is made entirely of conduit, its a sparkies dream and would be a cinch to wire in some outlets around the base into a transformer running off of a naquidah generator.

IcyNeko
July 19th, 2006, 08:59 AM
well, im guessing you dont get much internet connection there :D
They've got several isolated networks on Atlantis which can be made to be unisolated, and there are several networks that are tied together. They have means to run all of these, so for all intended purposes, they DO have an internet set up.

Syera
July 19th, 2006, 10:04 AM
Maybe Sam or Rodney invented Naquadah batteries. Every thread I go on I keep hearing about Fracking magnets :D
"Magnets" is a Stargate joke. In the episode Rite of Passage, O'Neill attempts to explain something with "magnets!" It's become a rather catchy paradigm. ;)


They've got several isolated networks on Atlantis which can be made to be unisolated, and there are several networks that are tied together. They have means to run all of these, so for all intended purposes, they DO have an internet set up.
I wonder if they even have an illegal MP3-swapping site up yet... :D

IcyNeko
July 19th, 2006, 11:24 AM
Probably. Once RIAA finds out, they'll set up an outpost in Pegasus... only to be attacked by Wraith.

How ironic... the life-sucking RIAA rep gets life-sucked by wraith.

Cam_Mitchell
July 19th, 2006, 11:41 AM
I wonder how much a phone call to home would cost and are there any anchient networks like anchientfone or T-Anchient

--Gaz--

IcyNeko
July 19th, 2006, 11:46 AM
*tumbleweed*

Sorry dude. That joke's old. Real old.

muddyalcapones
July 19th, 2006, 11:58 AM
heh... I got my first lap-top in '95, but it was made in like, '91, and that baby could deplete a ZPM in 2 hours tops. :mckayanime07:

GreyFox
July 19th, 2006, 11:59 AM
hell a zpm could power earth as it is now for a hell of a long time

muddyalcapones
July 19th, 2006, 12:20 PM
I don't think even a ZPM could power a whole planet for any amount of time over 1 second. The earth uses an insane amount of power. I'm talking, like, truley mindblowing power consumption here.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/JenniferGreen.shtml

I don't know what a TW is, but it sounds big.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(power)

edit: this tells the whole story: look at terrawatt. ^^^

Avatar28
July 19th, 2006, 09:17 PM
And that amount of power is only growing. Those numbers you gave a link for were close to 10 years old.


And have you ever seen high voltage transmission lines? It's amazing how the ancients would be able to transfer that amount of power around without shorts and frying stuff.
http://205.243.100.155/frames/longarc.htm

Look at some of those. Pretty scary stuff actually.

stevieg
July 19th, 2006, 09:57 PM
"Magnets" is a Stargate joke. In the episode Rite of Passage, O'Neill attempts to explain something with "magnets!" It's become a rather catchy paradigm. ;)


I wonder if they even have an illegal MP3-swapping site up yet... :D
way off the original topic here,but i thought the explaination was first coined in point of no return in the diner when o'neill is talking with martin loyd

Syera
July 20th, 2006, 07:16 AM
way off the original topic here,but i thought the explaination was first coined in point of no return in the diner when o'neill is talking with martin loyd
Ah, I think you're right. I'd forgotten about that. :)

I think the Rite of Passage scene was funnier, though. :D

Unamed
July 20th, 2006, 11:51 AM
off topic too, but if the sgc had wireless internet and connected a wormhole to atlantis would atlantis be able to pick up the connection?

IcyNeko
July 20th, 2006, 12:00 PM
Depends. Military wireless is a secured network. Then again, if that were the case, they could pump the wireless transmission software with McKay's compression scheme and make for efficient reporting systems.

Avatar28
July 20th, 2006, 10:02 PM
Yes. They probably DO have wireless. Current wireless encryption (WPA) with a properly complex passkey is uncrackable in any reasonable length of time due to the encryption depth and it's nature.


WPA-PSK may be vulnerable to a brute force attack but, with the choice of the right password, it becomes unfeasible.

Assuming a decent utility is used, a 31 character long password of random upper- and lowercase letters and numbers results in 62^31, or 3.7x10^55 possible combinations.

If we assume 60 attempts per second, it will take more that 1.3x10^36 times the age of the universe (15 billion years) to attempt every possible combination. The average time would be half that, or 6.5x10^35 times the age of the universe.

Even if someone were to come up with a scheme that reduced the bruteforce time to 1 trillionth of what would be required otherwise, it would still take 6.5x10^23 times the age of the universe. And so on...


Quantum computers could eventually help but only so far and that can be somewhat offset by simply increasing the encryption complexity and they are nowhere near the point of being able to do that at any rate.

But we know radio signals can pass through the gate so it would be a simple matter to do so, though you would probably want an access point on either side of the gate.

DysfunctionalVeteran
July 22nd, 2006, 06:14 AM
It's one of three things:

Magnets.

Rodney's ego.

Or magnets augmented by Rodney's ego.


Actually, you're more correct than you know.
I don't know if this is what the Series Bible says about it, but you CAN power a battery through magnetic induction.

As an example, you can buy a wireless mouse with a magnetic mousepad that recharges the mouse whenever it's on the pad, without having to remember to stick it into that cradle.

Orion's Star
July 22nd, 2006, 08:53 PM
It's one of three things:

Magnets.

Rodney's ego.

Or magnets augmented by Rodney's ego.
It must have been option three that powered the laptop on the hive ship in Misbegotten?

MacGyver`
July 22nd, 2006, 09:18 PM
Very good question.

I'd give you green, but AGAIN the system won't let me.
Reputation is by far the most important thing on an internet forum. :care:

On a serious note, that is a pretty good question. But unfortunately there's no real answer. It is science fiction, after all.


Solar power, that's the most logical explanation. And the Internet is recieved via subspace connection. Easier than magnets augmented by Rodney's ego.
Why would they even bother to have the internet (as we know it, on Earth) in Atlantis, it's of no use to them as far as I can see. It's far more likely (and probable) that they just have a large wireless network for all of the computers there.

Imgnryflagdotcom
July 22nd, 2006, 09:19 PM
It must have been option three that powered the laptop on the hive ship in Misbegotten?

LOL, yea, probly

I don't think atlantis has a subspace internet connection, if they did, they wouldnt have to dial Earth every week to send reports in data bursts. They do have a network though, they said so in "Allies".

As for the laptops, I bet Ancient tech automaticly powers whatever is on it (I.E. the control panels). It probably also connects to it, b/c I don't ever see any wires connected to their laptops, correct me if I'm wrong.

padr49904
July 22nd, 2006, 10:36 PM
Ok did you see when they put the labtop on a certain on the consule if you pay attention theres a wireless thing that connects them. Look where they set the labtops there is a connection between them after they sit them down The image on the labtop appears on the big screen.

Metonic
July 23rd, 2006, 02:01 AM
well, im guessing you dont get much internet connection there :D
you open that gate for the 1.3 seconds Mckay needs to send a message, and by the time the message is send, Atlantis will be infected by virus's fro mMckays porn i mean music downloads lol... no Norton for Atlantis.

They prolly have lots of extra batteries and like a thing to put batteries in to charge them lol