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August 5th, 2004, 07:10 PM
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The impending wedding of his son is the least of Teal'c's worries when the Hak'tyl plan an uprising against the Goa'uld Moloc, driving a wedge between Teal'c and Ishta.

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Major Fischer
September 10th, 2004, 06:12 PM
Now I understand why they called it "My Big Fat Jaffa Wedding."

DownFallAngel
September 10th, 2004, 06:12 PM
I liked this episode alot.

One of the better ones for Season 8.

Excali5033
September 10th, 2004, 06:20 PM
I'd almost forgotten what a Goa'uld sounded like. ;) Ry'ac needs to tame that 'fro, though!

NightGloom
September 10th, 2004, 07:14 PM
Sacrifices was so much better than I thought it would be. There were a few things I didn't like about it, but on the whole it's one of the better episodes of season 8 so far. Loved the part with Teal'c and Jack playing ping pong.

Calicto
September 10th, 2004, 07:14 PM
Some of the acting sucked. Ryac and Karin just were horrible... They used English slang too much. Ishta and Teal'c and Bra'tac were good... But Ryac and Karin kept pissing me off.

The Moloc storyline was good... *Moloc tries to brush off laser pointer* They should have sent SG teams through and had some ground fights even after the missiles. I never realized how big of a Goa'uld Moloc was. I thought he was a small lord with a very alkesh and maybe a Hat'ak... but he had a fleet of them? as well as alot of troops.

I think this is the first time we see a Goa'uld's eyes glow in the season!

It could have been so much better... The SGC is losing its integrity and strictness... That's a no no...
It could have been a 10/10 with better actors..etc.. but It was a 7.5/10

cobraR478
September 10th, 2004, 07:16 PM
Who else thought Ryac could use a haircut?

zats
September 10th, 2004, 07:26 PM
Quite frankly, I found this episode disappointing. I missed Birthright (curses!), but I've read the transcript a few times and thought it was pretty cool. But something about this one...

No, make that lots of somethings about this one...

a. Disjointed. Too many storylines floating around. We never saw Ry'ac and Kar'yn resolve the whole kneeling thing or even make up again. Disappointing, to say the least.

b. Weird dialogue. Look, I am super picky about dialogue. I admit that. But this ep was just...again, well, disjointed. A few lines that I couldn't particularly picture Jack, Sam, Teal'c, Daniel, Ishta, or anyone for that matter uttering without copious amounts of Shakespeare (am I the only one that starts talking weird after I see Henry V?)

c. Wacky ending. Teal'c and Ishta I don't mind, but in the gateroom? I just don't see Teal'c doing that, especially after Affinity. I mean, Teal'c's never really had what I'd call a romance and now he's two-for-two. Something is seriously weird.

Overall, everything just seemed off. Jack-and-Sam interactions were kind of strange (although the hands-on-her-shoulders thing was funny).

What was good:

a. The beginning. It was funny. A little forced, granted, but funny.

b. Humor. When not rammed down the audiance's throat.

Now that I've made my point(s), feel free to contradict me.

The end.

P.S. I liked the horses. Must have been Netu to shoot. Oh, and Ry'ac reminded me a tad of Anakin Skywalker in Attack of the Clones (not a good thing. I HATED that guy, and I like Star Wars.)

DJFavorite
September 10th, 2004, 07:33 PM
I felt this was a decent episode. Not one of the better ones this season, but not bad. I liked that we got a little off-world action.

I thought how they showed the evolving of Jaffa roles for male and female was good. How the rebellion will have to force the Jaffa to see a new way of life.

There were parts of the episode that didn't flow very well, I agree. But overall I felt it was good. It also showed that we really have been totally cut off from the rebellion. We still have contact with some of the rebel leaders. At least I felt it was implied in some of the conversations.

Thor's Bodyguard
September 10th, 2004, 07:40 PM
It could have been so much better... The SGC is losing its integrity and strictness... That's a no no...

I thought that too. Everyone was WAY too relaxed in this one. I mean, humor and jokes are fine and that's what we've come to expect over the years. But when you maintain that attitude for the whole show it kind of detracts from the realism of what is supposed to be very serious business.

Also, Ryac definitely needed a haircut.

Other than those two things I liked it overall. It was nice to see Ishta again. And of course Teal'c was as good as ever. I must say I really like the new direction TPTB are giving his character this season. We get to see a lot more of what he is really feeling and he doesn't seem half as introverted. He now seems to be able to relate much better to humans and earth customs while still retaining his Jaffa heritage.

I also get the feeling that things are leading up some kind of major confrontation with Baal.

keshou
September 10th, 2004, 08:02 PM
I didn't like this episode quite as well as Birthright but I am glad we got a follow-up on Ish'ta's storyline. It was nice to go off-world again and meet a new Goa'uld (even if I thought he seemed more like a cranky lawyer than a false god *g*) but the episode didn't seem to flow very well at times and the lighter moments didn't really mix that well with the serious side to the episode (unlike Birthright).

There *were* some really nice comic beats. The horses roaming the halls, Sam and Daniel's fake grins when Rya'c arrived with his bride-to-be and announced they were getting married at the SGC. Ping pong between Jack and Teal'c. Bra'tac greeting O'Neill of Minnesota. Don't exactly understand how Rya'c and Kar'yn solved their issues and why Teal'c came around but at least we had a wedding in the gateroom this year. No need to have any more, right?? :p

Ish'ta in danger was a pretty decent storyline but it kind of dragged a bit at times. I thought Jolene Blalock did a pretty good job in Birthright but she didn't convince me with her acting abilities in this one. CJ was great as Teal'c, always good when he's in action.

So okay episode but not great. Better than Affinity and Covenant. Still pretty obvious that they're filming multiple episodes at a time as the characters split time with guest stars. Jack seemed to be mainly comic relief in this episode and hasn't been as quite as convincing as "General Jack" in the last couple of episodes after a promising start in Zero Hour and Lockdown.

TechnoBoY
September 10th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Who else thought Ryac could use a haircut?

I actually thought they changed the actor. Yah, he needs a haitcut. Made him seem "smaller".

The ep was okay. I thought it was kinda boring.

Skydiver
September 10th, 2004, 08:33 PM
it was fun, and enjoyable.

too bad moloc died, another decent looking goauld bites the dust.

there were some great comic moments, jack and sam in the hall with the horse for example, and the sam/daniel, man is jack gonna be ticked off moment

but i agree with whomever said the dialogue was off. a jaffa saying 'zat her'????? (or whatever)

zat is earth slang. he should have said 'shoot us both and she will die' or something like that. or used zatnikatel..a jaffa would.

it was a good story, the ryac/karin bit got resolved too easily, bratac was great, loved the lack of jaffamaka, jack had some good moments, so did sam. ishta occasionally nibbled at the scenery, teal'c was his normal studly self

it was enjoyable and fun....coulda used a good beta on the dialogue :)

DarkQuee1
September 10th, 2004, 08:56 PM
c. Wacky ending. Teal'c and Ishta I don't mind, but in the gateroom? I just don't see Teal'c doing that, especially after Affinity. I mean, Teal'c's never really had what I'd call a romance and now he's two-for-two. Something is seriously weird.

Actually, they kissed in the gateroom at the end of Birthright, if I remember it correctly!



J.

puddlejumper747
September 10th, 2004, 09:00 PM
Did anyone else notice the reflection of the gate in the glass when Bra'tac returned? You could clearly see the stargate with a big bright light behind it and a spinning slitted disc to make the rippled light in the gateroom!!! :P


Yea, the "Zat us both" line coming from a Jaffa was awkward... maybe he just picked it up from a rebel Jaffa or something strange like that. :P

Don't know if we really needed a laser-pointer illuminating the camera's lens. :rolleyes:

And I see we still have the classic incoming-wormhole dialing problem? First time the gate just lights up all at once, but then later we see it spinning as earth is dialing in. Oh, well. ;)

Skydiver
September 10th, 2004, 09:13 PM
the laser was another thing

ok, don't know how it works, but wouldn't the laser have to be attached to something, sending telemetry, to have the missiles target it?????

or are those missiles good enough that they can track on an itty bitty red light????

Bobthespirit
September 10th, 2004, 09:28 PM
Strong episode. Finally they decided to go *off earth*. Although...

Agghh! Enterprise! Unclean! Keep Jolene Blaylock away from Stargate, the writers might catch whatever makes Enterprise suck so much!

Ramne
September 10th, 2004, 09:30 PM
the laser was another thing

ok, don't know how it works, but wouldn't the laser have to be attached to something, sending telemetry, to have the missiles target it?????

or are those missiles good enough that they can track on an itty bitty red light????

The laser used to paint the target is a high intensity laser beam, tuned to a specific frequency. The missile has a set of sensors onboard that only sense that frequency, as it bounces off of the object. Once it senses that frequency, it hones in on it, and steers the missile towards where that reflection is. It might be more technical than that, but that's the jist of it :p

Bobthespirit
September 10th, 2004, 09:31 PM
That's a good point, I never noticed that dialing thing...in some episodes, they can see when somebody is trying to dial in and have a chance to beat them to the punch. In other episodes, they get interrupted mid dial and immediately have to go hide somewhere.

Dragonlor
September 10th, 2004, 10:05 PM
I have now determined who the luckiest person in the universe is: Ry'ac.

Where do I have to sign up to spend time in a mostly female jaffa camp?

majorsal
September 10th, 2004, 11:08 PM
I enjoyed this ep. I'm not a big fan of Jaffa stories, but this one had enough tidbits to make me want to view it again. Once again, my fave parts consist of character moments.

The Jack-Teal'c scene, when they were playing ping-pong, was great! RDA's comic timing is wonderful. He didn't play ping-pong with Teal'c, he was a target. :p

The Sam-Daniel scene, when they were both inwardly moaning at what they'd gotten themselves into with a Jaffa wedding take place on base; it was cute! Super fake smiles, and both being afraid to tell Jack. :p

Jack-Daniel scene, when Daniel was explaining everything under the sun, when all Jack wanted was how he was doing. :p I also got a kick out of this scene, because I'd read someone's Con report, and MS talked about screwing up this one scene over and over. They wanted it in one continuous take, and poor MS kept messing up. (((MS)))

The Sam/Jack scene... k, I'm a shipper, let me take a moment to SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! *takes deep breath* K, nuff said. :D :p

I'm not a fan of Jolene Blalock, so I have prob getting into her character. But, I like the idea of a female warrior (can you image Lucy Lawless playing Ishta?:D), so I can over-look some of the things I'm not crazy about with Jolene.

Moloc reminded me to Joseph Fiennes, brother of Ralph. Just something about him reminded me. :p I would have liked to have seen more of him, just because I miss the Goauld.

Rya'c looked younger with his hair cut the way it was.

Bratac - it was so fun to see comedy from him!

I'm glad Rya'c's bride-to-be got ticked at the kneeling in front of the groom bit. *woman power!:p*

Just why did Ishta let herself get captured again?

Chris's brother -Jeff- was in the ep, and he played a Jaffa called Aron. Anyone know which one that was?

Over-all, I enjoyed this ep. Not one of my faves, but I'll definitely be playing this again.

K, I gotta get this out.. SAM AND JACK SHIP! :D


Sally :D

vikingjedi
September 10th, 2004, 11:24 PM
IMO this was the best episode of the season. They have been rarely going off world, thats something that has been bothering me.

I really like Ishta, she's a good match for Teal'c. I like the part about changing the old customs of the wedding as well (the kneeling was resolved at the end when Rya'c and Teal'c were joking about some customs needing to be done away with).

Anybody who doesnt see Jack and Sam end up together at the end of the series just isnt paying attention. Their on screen chemistry is just amazing.

TameFarrar
September 11th, 2004, 12:02 AM
Well I for one just sat back and really enjoyed this episode :D First I have been enjoying the HECK out of CJ this season and it has been a pleasure to see him shine.

I am a Jolene Blalock fan so I enjoyed her as well and it was nice to see Teal'c and Ishta together again :)

I really enjoyed all of the comic moments, I thought they fell into place at the right time and in the right places I never felt that any were out of place or off and I really enjoyed laughing :D and when they got down to the business of kicking butt offworld I was so very happy that they were OFF WORLD!!!!!! YAY I knew they had a Star Gate some where in there

I won't say this was the episode that has blown me away but I just really was entertained the entire time I sat there.....and THAT is what I watch SG for so I am a happy fan :D and being a shipper well had a happy moment there too :D

Oh I know someone posted about Teal'c kissing Ishta in the Gateroom...he did that in a BIG way in Birthright so I was surprised that they toned it down for this......Hubs was like all bummed that Teal'c didn't get to lay another BIG one on her (he lived vicariously I think:))

laurabee2103
September 11th, 2004, 01:09 AM
hi there,
does anyone know if theres a 30mb mirror of this anywheres atm?? ta v much

the dancer of spaz
September 11th, 2004, 02:00 AM
Here's what I posted on the shipper thread, so if this looks familiar, well... You know why.

First, I'll say that the whole ep was just great. I think CJ has a real talent, and I'm glad they are using it. The beginning with Daniel and Jack wasn't new to this season, because I think they've done the whole "long-take down the hall" technique enough times during the series, but it was enough to throw Daniel/Jack friendship fans a bone, while also appealing to my desire to see them in scenes together.

Then there was Jack/Teal'c. Hilarious scene! Just great. The physical comedy apparently is what they were going for, and RDA totally nailed it. It was another great friendship scene. And, apparently, Teal'c is really good at ping pong. Jack getting his last shot in was quite funny. :)

The scene with Sam/Daniel and Ry'ac and his fiancee was great, too. I thought it was just funny how the two of them got this look on their faces like, "Oh, crap... Jack's gonna hurt someone." It was a good scene, and showed that very endearing sisterly-brotherly relationship they've always had. I'm glad they did that again, because it's been lacking in past seasons.

Finally, there's the Sam/Jack combo, where the two of them apparently couldn't keep their hands off of each other. Haha! Just kidding. It was a great scene, because it was "physical" enough for us shippers, and also "friendly" enough for those who don't want ship. AND it finally showed how comfortable those two can be together. In the past - in the interest of showing overt ship - they always made it really awkward between the two of them. The fact that these two are friends first is a great way of approaching the ship, IMO, and they played it off very well. The whole hall scene had a humor that rivals the Daniel/Jack humor scenes, which is refreshing, and all of the kids/horses/general chaos made me smile.

I don't want to put the other writers of the show down, because they're great, but I have to say that I'm not surprised that CJ managed to put some great team-scenes in there, while still not having all four of them in the same room together.


Also, TPTB has done a phenomenal job of making it seem that Jack is always there. I almost forgot about RDA's reduced schedule, they did so well.

Definitely a 9.9 out of 10.

ADDENDUM:
I'll admit that I was a little disappointed with the way the actor who plays Ry'ac acted, only because he did a really good job when he was a little kid, which is weird... You'd think you'd get better as you get older, eh? At any rate, his fiancee was a little... awkward, but nonetheless tolerable.

Enterprise isn't exactly my "thang," but I don't have a problem with Miss T'Pol, and I thought that the scene between Teal'c and Ishta was rather well-done. Too me, the one-on-one scenes that were done (and Lord knows there were a bunch!) were done well. I mean, forced comedy is one thing, but fluid and easily maintained comfortability among the actors/characters is another, and they never cease to pull that off, IMO, whether the plot or story is faulty, or not. Does that make sense?

Plus, Bra'tac was pretty good, too. Now, all we need is General Hammond and Jacob Carter, and we've got the Stargate Forefathers... or Elders... or something. I really miss those guys. Come to think of it, I really miss Janet. But that's another thread-topic entirely. :(

Angel of Fire SG1
September 11th, 2004, 02:31 AM
. Oh, and Ry'ac reminded me a tad of Anakin Skywalker in Attack of the Clones (not a good thing. I HATED that guy, and I like Star Wars.)

OMG! ME TOO! OMG I was watching that scene where Teal'c & R'yac were talking at the end! And I was just like "Hayden Christensen...he SOUNDS AND ACTS LIKE HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN!"

*breaths*

But I've never been a massive R'yac fan!! Lol!

I REALLY LIKED THIS EP! It was good! I love Chris Judge's episodes, his episodes are the only Jaffa-centred ones I really like. I usually find Jaffa eps boring...*snores*

Although I always love a good, going off-world fighting the Goa'uld episode!!

Loved the horse walking through the hallway *laughs hysterically* That was so funny!! And I loved the team interaction in this ep!

I didn't notice that "Zat" thing
But thinking back - it is a bit strange isnt it?

Lol...i'll put it down to rebel jaffa picking it up off the tauri and the normal jaffa picking it up off the rebel jaffa...or something along those lines!

I mean we been calling em zat's for years
It must've just caught on ;)

Albion
September 11th, 2004, 02:33 AM
Well, I came to this one not expecting much - Jaffa episodes aren't really my thing and only a couple of exceptions over the years have interested me. Nor did I find Birthright or Ishta particularly interesting last time around. So I wasn't expecting to be entertained at all.

How wrong can one fan be? :p

I loved every moment of this. It had the perfect mix of action, comedy and interesting characters. We had a little bit of everything - the gate in action, some offworld adventure, genuine thrills, terrific character relationship and oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, CJ for giving us back the real O'Neill. After the somewhat subdued General of previous weeks this was our beloved leader back in sparkling form. In fact, everyone seemed to be in sparkling form and enjoying themselves thoroughly.

I even found Ishta a much more interesting and sympathetic character this time around and I actually cared what happened to her. The more obvious 'feminist' cliches of Birthright were toned down this time around, so the female Jaffas didn't irritate me quite as much either.

Loved too many moments to list them all - especially after just one viewing on a 30mb dl <g> - but just a couple that stand out. Loved the horses coming through the Gate. Loved Daniel and Sam reacting to the news that the wedding was going to be held at the SGC. Loved the teaser - right there and then I knew I was in for a treat. "What was my question again?" "It seemed so innocuous at the time." LOL! Bra'tac was hilarious. The way that Teal'c moped through the gateroom talking about being betrayed had me ROTFLing. Talk about your drama queen. <g> And the ping pong - ROTFL! And just had to laugh at Moloc trying to disdainfully dust off the laser sight. It was also terrific to see Jack and Bra'tac bouncing comedy off one another. "O'Neill...of Minnesota." And this little exchange was just a lovely character moment between Jack and Teal'c:

"T...?"
"My head is down, O'Neill."

Unusually too, this time around CJ spread the wealth around and gave a lot of time, excellent dialogue and screen moments to most of the characters, rather than concentrating almost solely on Teal'c, as in his previous writing projects. And that made a huge difference to this fan when it came to enjoying the episode. Not that I didn't enjoy Teal'c on screen - on the contrary. I was enthralled with the story thread involving him and Ishta and certainly wasn't bored by the elements offworld either. But it was just nice to see some focus on everyone else too.

Yup, definitely one of my favourites of the season so far (and I've loved the season so far) and one that I'll revisit often.

You came up trumps this time, CJ!


Chris's brother -Jeff- was in the ep, and he played a Jaffa called Aron. Anyone know which one that was

Wasn't Aron the Jaffa who was with Teal'c and Ishta after the attack? The one Teal'c zatted because he didn't trust and who rescued him?

Albion :)

Dani347
September 11th, 2004, 03:44 AM
Anybody who doesnt see Jack and Sam end up together at the end of the series just isnt paying attention. Their on screen chemistry is just amazing.


Did someone say something? Sorry, I wasn't paying attention.

raeble
September 11th, 2004, 04:30 AM
I didn't think much to this episode. I didn't know anything about this episode before hand. It had a very tired feel to it. I wasn't particularly interested in Teal'c spawn. I don't think we got a reason why Teal'c decided to attend the wedding. Blalock didn't impress me much with her 'acting' talent. Jack seemed didn't seem like a General - the scene when Jack appeared to be forced into giving Ishtar and her band of mercenary handmaidens refuge. The main idea was ok but the execution left a lot to be desired.

vikingjedi
September 11th, 2004, 04:52 AM
Sorry, I wasn't paying attention.

Apparently not, anybody can see Sam and Jack will end up together. It is their destiny.

keshou
September 11th, 2004, 04:53 AM
Jack-Daniel scene, when Daniel was explaining everything under the sun, when all Jack wanted was how he was doing. I also got a kick out of this scene, because I'd read someone's Con report, and MS talked about screwing up this one scene over and over. They wanted it in one continuous take, and poor MS kept messing up. (((MS)))
I read that con report as well and that made the hallway scene much more fun to watch! I kept thinking of MS just trying to get the words out while RDA patiently walked down the hall with him for 5 takes. :D


Chris's brother -Jeff- was in the ep, and he played a Jaffa called Aron. Anyone know which one that was?
Oh, I didn't know that was Chris' brother!! He had a really nice part. Albion is correct, Aron was that Jaffa who was with Ishta and Teal'c as they escaped from the tent. The one Teal'c zatted, who later proved himself by saving Teal'c.


Finally, there's the Sam/Jack combo, where the two of them apparently couldn't keep their hands off of each other. Haha! Just kidding. It was a great scene, because it was "physical" enough for us shippers, and also "friendly" enough for those who don't want ship. AND it finally showed how comfortable those two can be together. In the past - in the interest of showing overt ship - they always made it really awkward between the two of them. The fact that these two are friends first is a great way of approaching the ship, IMO, and they played it off very well.
I like Sam and Jack very much as friends and thought this was a fun scene.

Actually, all the little interactions between SG-1 were good in this episode. CJ has a real feel for all the characters.

Madeleine
September 11th, 2004, 04:56 AM
Okay chaps, this being the 'Sacrifices' thread it'd be appreciated if we could discuss 'Sacrifices'. About six dozen threads already exist for discussing S/J in isolation. (Okay, probably nearer three threads than six dozen threads, but my point is the same.)

Madeleine W
Moderator

Dani347
September 11th, 2004, 04:58 AM
*Happy to be blind*

Anyway, this was better than Covenant. But, that's not saying much. I liked the Jack/Daniel scene in the beginning. Teal'c was good. Not sure about Ish'ta. I liked the differences of opinion between her and Teal'c, though. Liked Daniel/Sam. And Jack/Teal'c. Nice moments there.

I could have tolerated the scene with Jack and Sam, except for the disgusting hands on the shoulder, uncomfortable look, which I guess was meant to signal some "connection" between them. Sorry, everytime they do it, it looks forced and fake

Also, Moloc was one puny looking goa'uld. Didn't have the majesty of the others.

I'm glad they didn't kill Bra'tac.

jyh
September 11th, 2004, 05:22 AM
Good episode. Most everyone else already hit the high points (the humor, etc.) I too **loved** the opening scene w/ Jank & Daniel. And the ping-pong. Way to write, CJ!!

I do have two quibbles, one of which had already been mentioned. Who knew Jack was running day-care for homeless aliens? I understand the reason for letting these people (the Haktar?) have sanctuary until they can find another planet. But we should have seen more believable reaction to the very unmilitary atmosphere of the SGC. (Yes, I realize there was nowhere else to put these people, but it just seemed way too casual. Ironically, earlier in the evening SciFi aired the episode in which we meet the Tollan, and General Hammond all but restricted them to a multi-purpose room.) (Plus, that ep was the first time we meet Narim... and then in the Atlantis episode.... Can you imagine not being familiar w/ Stargate, and seeing those two episodes in the same evening??)

My second quibble was that the tension between Rayac & his fiance seemed to be resolved too quickly. Now, somebody had the extreme nerve to speak to me and distract me after Teal'c, Ishta, etc. got back to earth, and I did see that Teal'c & Rayac were having a conversation as they walked through the SCG (where do they think they are, The West WIng??), altho I didn't hear most of it. (grrr!) But it seemed the very next scene was the wedding.

I really did enjoy the humor of this episode and while I'm not a big fan of Jolene Blalock or of a Teal'c/Ishta relationship, I thought it was overall a pretty good ep. I just think Jack should have maintained military protocol a bit more strongly. It was just a bit too casual, even for him.

Since some people are rating this episode, I'll give it a 7.5/10.

derrickh
September 11th, 2004, 05:24 AM
Jolene Blalock is a good actress. I wasn't sure before, but now I'm convinced. When she came out of the gate I kept thinking that she's acting kinda like a drug addict. With the labored breathing, sunken features, and hunched shoulders. And it was the same thing through the entire episode. When Ishta was on the screen I kept wondering if I was the only one that could see that this woman was fiending for a fix. Is everyone blind to her problem? Someone needs to start an intervention or something.

But then, once they got on the planet and Ishta mentioned that she had lost her stash of tritonen, it all became clear. Jolene was acting like an addict because, basically, Ishta is an addict for tritonen. Now THATS acting. Without ever coming out and saying it, but only through her posture and affected speech, Jolene was able to get across a major character trait of Ishta. Teal'c is in the same situation but for some reason he doesn't show it as much. Only for a few seconds after the battle at the UAV did it look like he really needed a tritonen fix.

It leads to the question if the SGC has really helped the Jaffa with the whole tritonen thing. From one perspective, it looks like they've made a lot of Jaffa totally dependent on Earth for a constant supply of a drug where as before, a single g'ould larve would last for 90 years.

The episode was good and Judge is getting a lot better as a writer. His take on all the characters is a bit different that most of the other writers and which leads to a lot less screen time for everyone else (It would have been easy to skip over Daniel's and Sam's scenes altogether). And Judge is a genius becase so far, he's always written in a huge liplock with himself and a hottie. You the man, Chris.

D

Jonisa
September 11th, 2004, 06:01 AM
I wasn't really looking forward to this episode. I do love Teal'c, but the whole Jaffa thing has never interested me all that much, and I didn't like Birthright at all last year.

I was pleasantly surprised though. It had some great scenes with all the team members, which I always enjoy. The Sam/Daniel scene was adorable. I loved the smiles on their faces. The teaser was simply classic Jack and Daniel. I love it when Daniel babbles on in professor-mode, although I don't know if MS likes it all that much. And Jack's innocuous question. :D

I loved the reactions of the team to the Jaffa and all their animals taking over the SGC. Jack and Bra'tac were great together..."you old coot". And there were quite a few other moments as well.

I think they did a good job of integrating the Jaffa storyline with the rest of the cast, better than in the past, anyway. I'm never going to be a big fan of this particular arc, but I liked it better than Covenant, at least.

All in all, I felt it was a good episode.

pettygrew
September 11th, 2004, 06:07 AM
I was disappointed with the episode. I did enjoy the individual scenes with Jack and Teal'c, Teal'c with Ryac, and the horses. Funny, but I didn't care for the plot that much.

I thought Jack was sleep walking through the story. Very little emotion except for the ping pong match.

Seeing Teal'c with the two staff weapons was cool. I called him a two-pistol tot'n Jaffa.

In Birthright, I thought Teal'c a chauvinist and still felt it in this ep. So what is wrong with several smaller attacks than one big attack again the Goa'uld? You don't really see him supporting Ishta's ideas.

I did laugh when Teal'c and Ishta saw all the Jaffa in front of the Stargate, and Teal'c said 'the Stargate is well guarded.' No kidding!

The one thing I did notice A LOT was the reduction of special effects. I understand you have to save money and time with production of the eps, but I do miss seeing the special effects. At the beginning, after the Jack/Daniel walk/talk, you see Bra'tac and Teal'c walking down the ramp. The puddle looked like a movie. You don't see the puddle that much with entrances or exits of characters. You don't see people getting zat or shot up like before.

Erin
September 11th, 2004, 06:51 AM
anybody can see Sam and Jack will end up together. It is their destiny.


I certainly hope so!! They are so cute together and I loved the corridor scene! i also loved how the horse went down the hall and they watched, I was almost falling out of my seat laughing.

dblduchess
September 11th, 2004, 07:09 AM
My first post, so be gentle.....
I had to join the forum so I could say how much I LOVED the episode. To me it had the feel of an old Stargate episode, with all the new trimmings. There was real humor - you gotta love a goofball general - and just enough action to be in perfect balance with the character stuff. I loved seeing the glowing eyes again, and Bra'tac, and Ryac growing up, and even Apophis was mentioned. Like hearing about old friends. Thank you CJ for combining the old with the new and giving the show some genuine heart.

I'm not a real shipper, but I liked the hands-on-the-shoulders scene with Sam and Jack. I thought it was both a wink and a nod to fandom.

And how great to see more of RDA! He looked like he got his mojo back for this one.

Bobthespirit
September 11th, 2004, 07:51 AM
Responding to some of the 'shippers' as they seem to have dubbed themselves...

Jack and Sam *would* be good together, but I majorly object to the TV cliche of teasing a relationship for years and years without moving forward in it, so I was pleased in Grace when Sam decided to move on.

--

Blalock is a better actress than you'd realize from watching Enterprise, but it's still bad mojo! :rolleyes:

What I didn't like about Ishta in this episode is that...I don't know, after portraying a 'strong, female warrior,' we get her crying and fawning around before Molok and Teal'c, and practically bringing herself to tears at the start when yelling at Teal'c about not supporting R'yac. I mean...wouldn't a strong, female warrior try a little harder not to cry quite so easily? We only see Sam crying either when a friend's life is in jeopardy or when she's severely tortured like in New Order.

That being said, I'd rank Sacrifices only behind New Order and Avatar as far as this season's episodes go. I like jaffa episodes, and...well, I don't know, CJ seems to have a different take on his character than the rest of the writers that's interesting to see once in a while. Man...The Warrior...this...those jaffa rebels never get a break, do they?

nugglebugget
September 11th, 2004, 08:34 AM
I loved this ep!

Was this the 1st time we've seen Bra'tac without his helmet?I can't seem to remember another time.His humour is deadpan & funny as heck!
Jack: What's that smell?
Bra'tac:I believe it is the horses..

The "kneeling" fiasco at the 1st attempt at the wedding.Bra'tac sees the wisdom in "rehearsing such things".Kind of like the word "obey" in our traditional vows,huh?
Ping-pong isn't supposed to hurt but when you're pitted against an angry Jaffa,you need hockey gear.
Hands on the shoulders bit was funny but watching the horse go down the hall was even more so.I wonder if they had to re-take any scenes because of an animals inability to ...contain itself?Who had shovel duty:p ?
"Molec" looked familiar,who ws he?Liked how he tried to brush off the laser,then he realized there was a huge problem.A personal shield would'nt have helped even if he did have time to employ one,would it?

Last thought:
Any ideas of the nature of the "Rite of Orloc"?Teal'c advising the knife be as sharp as possible & R'yac's face was great.He was all for ditching some traditions then:D .I personally,think it was a joke the old married men play on the new groom.

puddlejumper747
September 11th, 2004, 08:39 AM
The laser used to paint the target is a high intensity laser beam, tuned to a specific frequency. The missile has a set of sensors onboard that only sense that frequency, as it bounces off of the object. Once it senses that frequency, it hones in on it, and steers the missile towards where that reflection is. It might be more technical than that, but that's the jist of it :p
Ooooh. I think I that makes sense. As long as they got the laser out of the UAV... and they did, didn't they?

And let me ask you again:
Did anyone else notice the reflection of the gate in the glass when Bra'tac returned? You could clearly see the stargate's reflection with a big bright light behind it and a spinning slitted disc to make the rippled light in the gateroom!!! :P

Ugly Pig
September 11th, 2004, 08:59 AM
Well, that was a lousy two weeks with no new Stargate episodes. It's been difficult not to let my other obsessions rise up and overthrow my Stargate one, but I managed because I know just how dangerous a little variety can be.


PIGGY'S USELESS OPINION
of 'Sacrifices'

Well, I enjoyed that very much. And I wasn't expecting to. 'Birthright' is not a favorite episode of mine, so another jaffa episode featuring Ishta didn't look too interesting. But I ended up liking it, except for the bickering between Rya'c and his girlfriend. Mostly because of the girlfriend... What's with that sudden outburst during the practice ceremony? Shouldn't she be a little more aware of the wedding traditions of her own people before deciding to go and get married? And sure, I can see why she'd have a problem with that particular aspect of it - but if she wants Rya'c's respect, then how about showing him some? I certainly didn't see any when Rya'c introduced her to his Tau'ri friends. I'm glad this issue was (briefly) addressed by Ishta. And Bra'tac, in Rya'c's case.

Anyhoo... That was really a minor annoyance in the show. There was certainly a lot more to like about it than there was to dislike. The funny bits were great - Jack and Teal'c playing ping-pong (or whatever that was), Jack getting very distracted at the horses and kids on the base, and I also found Teal'c's initial reaction to the news of Rya'c's engagement pretty amusing. Even Bra'tac was funny in this one - loved it when he called Jack "O'Neill of Minnesota". But I am left wondering what jaffa warriors need sharp knives for on their wedding night... I have a feeling I'm happier not knowing, though. (Oh, and about that particular scene - I kind of liked how the music got all dark and ominous when Teal'c started talking about that particular custom.)

The episode finishes off with some great old jaffa violence. Very nice use of the missiles from The Sentinel (Yeah, I know they weren't the same exact ones, but - you know.) and very nice use of Teal'c running up to the tent (where Ishta was held prisoner) while killing lotsa people. And, that's one more Goa'uld to scratch off the list.

Yeah... Good stuff. Now I'm gonna go get me some stinkin' food.

Ugly Pig
September 11th, 2004, 09:22 AM
Oh, and: The Goa'uld eye glowing is back! For real this time! Yay! :D
Another thing I thought was a nice touch was that this time, the "obvious jaffa traitor" actually didn't turn out to be a bad guy! Didn't see that one coming! :D

Teal'c
September 11th, 2004, 10:20 AM
I was fully expecting, when Bra'tac arrived at the SGC, Jack to say:

"Bra'tac.... you're bald!" :P

Great episode, loved Moloc getting blown to bits. Great to see Chris' brother too (The rebel Jaffa he zatted).

My only problem with the episode is when that Jaffa said Zat... damn you Chris! :P

And Bra'tac was exceptionally good in this episode.

Liv
September 11th, 2004, 11:08 AM
This was supposed to be my "Okay, I'll watch it with one eye" - episode. Like some of you have stated already, Jaffa episodes aren't among my favorite episodes, Ishta was so-and-so the first time we saw her (IMO) and Birthright was not an episode I'm particularly fond of. And since I didn't have any high expectations going in, I was very happy with what I got.

Things that made me both smile and rejoice at the overall cuteness and/or grab the couch in hissy fits of laughter:

That opening scene between Daniel and Jack... What can I say? I loved it. Even more so when I read the trouble poor MS had getting through it. I would really like to see the outtakes on that one.

Teal'c whacking O'Neill with the ping-pong. ROFL. Serious ROFL. I think I hurt something in the process.

At least he managed to get in a serve against the defenceless wall. O'Neill: "Got one...". Fun-ny!

Horses in the gate room... Heh. There's something I never thought I would see.

Daniel and Sam's excessive smiling in response to the news of the wedding being held at the base. I thought that was the most adorable scene in a great long while.

Bra'tac. It was very nice to see him out of his clunky head-gear helmet. And what a lovely "minister" he made!
"Perhaps if we took a short recess..."
"I can see why one must rehearse these events."

This (sort of) new habit of O'Neill calling Teal'c "T" I like very much, I must say. It shows a real comfort in their friendship. As did the following line:
O'Neill: "You know how I get when you don't call."

When Teal'c pulled both Ry'ac and Co'rin into an embrace, at the same time, after Ry'ac offered his hand to him in a more official goodbye. That was so sweet.


Then there are the things that I'm a bit more hesitant about:

Those "You don't respect me" - speeches between Ry'ac and Co'rin (I have no idea how she spells it, I'm not even gonna pretend), both in the scene where they've just stepped through the gate and during the wedding rehearsal. Simply because it felt very forced to me. Plus, you'd think she'd be familiar with the ceremony and not act all Eh? with the kneeling thing. Don't get me wrong, I agree with her (why the heck should she have to kneel, and alone nonetheless?) but it seemed unrealistic that she wasn't aware of it.

It bugs me somewhat that Teal'c obvisously has strong feelings for Ishta, yet in Affinity he got involved with Krista. Sometimes, I feel like the writers don't quite know how to keep track of things that's going on with characters that are out of the picture, 'at the moment'. Then they bring them back on the show and it's like all is zippedy-do-dah and things that may have happened when they weren't present are glossed over.

~

And that's about it. All in all, I enjoyed it. :D

jckfan55
September 11th, 2004, 11:31 AM
It bugs me somewhat that Teal'c obvisously has strong feelings for Ishta, yet in Affinity he got involved with Krista. Sometimes, I feel like the writers don't quite know how to keep track of things that's going on with characters that are out of the picture, 'at the moment'. Then they bring them back on the show and it's like all is zippedy-do-dah and things that may have happened when they weren't present are glossed over.

:D

I agree. Of course the whole Krista thing bugged me at the time too.

jckfan55
September 11th, 2004, 11:36 AM
What I didn't like about Ishta in this episode is that...I don't know, after portraying a 'strong, female warrior,' we get her crying and fawning around before Molok and Teal'c, and practically bringing herself to tears at the start when yelling at Teal'c about not supporting R'yac. I mean...wouldn't a strong, female warrior try a little harder not to cry quite so easily? We only see Sam crying either when a friend's life is in jeopardy or when she's severely tortured like in New Order.

Well she was suffering from tritonan (sp?) withdrawl, after all. Also, how you behave in private with your boyfriend is likely to be different from when you're leading your warriors. :)

puddlejumper747
September 11th, 2004, 11:57 AM
Plus, you'd think she'd be familiar with the ceremony and not act all Eh? with the kneeling thing. Don't get me wrong, I agree with her (why the heck should she have to kneel, and alone nonetheless?) but it seemed unrealistic that she wasn't aware of it.
:eek:
Hold on, I just thought of this:
She was from that rebel women Jaffa camp, right? So maybe she DIDN'T know about how the ceremony works. Everyone just assumed there wouldn't be a problem, and that she would just do what was asked of her at the proper time. It would also explain Bra'tac's coment about needing to "rehearse" these things more often.
:D Horray!

Liv
September 11th, 2004, 12:04 PM
:eek:
Hold on, I just thought of this:
She was from that rebel women Jaffa camp, right? So maybe she DIDN'T know about how the ceremony works. Everyone just assumed there wouldn't be a problem, and that she would just do what was asked of her at the proper time. It would also explain Bra'tac's coment about needing to "rehearse" these things more often.
:D Horray!
You could be on to something there. All right, I'll accept that explanation. :)

At least, until proven otherwise. :D

Melyanna
September 11th, 2004, 12:25 PM
Well, this was an interesting episode.

Did anyone else look at Rya'c's fiancée during the rehearsal and think she looked like a sixteen-year-old version of Sha're? Yikes, she and Rya'c looked young. I guess what bothered me about her is that we really didn't see why Rya'c was attracted to other, other than finding her beautiful. Did like her wedding dress, though.

As for the rite Teal'c mentioned at the end... I have a feeling that it was something along the lines of *ahem* circumcision. :P

Overall, I thought this was a good episode. It didn't feel Jack-light, as "Covenant" and "Affinity" did, and *gasp!* there's a Stargate! And aliens!

Mel

Greesha
September 11th, 2004, 12:33 PM
some of the dialogue was a little weird, but the humor was great. i especially liked jack & teal'c playing ping-pong (even though everyone else has said that, lol). not my favorite chris judge ep, or my favorite ep this season, but a good episode all the same.

LMichelle
September 11th, 2004, 12:41 PM
I was bored by this ep. Brat'ac gets on my nerves. What's he like 130 years old now? Shouldn't he be on Chulak as a diplomat or something? Does he need to go galavanting all over the galaxy? I know he's Teal'c's buddy and advisor, but he's annoying.

Jolene Blalock (and her boobs :p ) guest star as a love interest for Teal'c. Ummm . . . didn't we just see him with Krista a couple weeks ago? How many women does Teal'c have? So he goes into battle with Ishta and other Jaffa who are suited up in their armor and he's in sleevless. WTF? Did he think all the bad guys are going to bounce off his well-sculpted arms? Okay, Christopher, we get it, you work out. But I prefer my arm porn to be Daniel arm porn. :p

Speaking of Daniel, if you blinked, you missed him. We did see Smiling Daniel and his cute dimples, but I need more and the scene with him in a suit was too short. I need time to savor Suit Daniel. C'mon, people throw us a bone. Sheesh.

I did like the wedding ceremony and the female Jaffa activism. I liked Jack and Teal'c's ping pong game and his one-liners. That's what redeemed the ep for me.

Lisa Michelle

Elwe Singollo
September 11th, 2004, 12:45 PM
Ok, i didn't want to spoil myself by reading all the posts, but i would like to say this episode had everything for me, comedy, drama, action, etc. And wow, Ishta, she deserves better than Enterprise right now, from what i saw, her character is a lot better in SG, although things may change the new season. Anywho, yay, Bra'tac! :rolleyes: Ok, and the whole wedding thing annoyed me a bit...

Major Fischer
September 11th, 2004, 12:46 PM
I was bored by this ep. Brat'ac gets on my nerves. What's he like 130 years old now? Shouldn't he be on Chulak as a diplomat or something? Does he need to go galavanting all over the galaxy? I know he's Teal'c's buddy and advisor, but he's annoying.

He's a major figure in the rebel Jaffa movement, and Chulak is a world every Goa'uld and his prim'tah know the location of. Never mind that, well, old wise people doesn't nessecarily translate to 'diplomat.'

If I'm in the shape he is at 130, I'd run around the galaxy too.

Chairman Mao
September 11th, 2004, 01:21 PM
I think this is the first time we see a Goa'uld's eyes glow in the season!


Jackson glew in "Avatar".

DarkQuee1
September 11th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Speaking of Daniel, if you blinked, you missed him. We did see Smiling Daniel and his cute dimples, but I need more and the scene with him in a suit was too short. I need time to savor Suit Daniel. C'mon, people throw us a bone. Sheesh.

Seemed to me there was pretty much as much Daniel as Jack and Sam. This was basically a Teal'c episode.


J.

DarkQuee1
September 11th, 2004, 02:30 PM
I thought the ep was pretty good. I liked everyone's interaction. The opening scene between Jack and Daniel was typical: Jack's looking for the bottom line, but Daniel, ever the academic, is seeking to give the entire explanation for the bottom line being what it is!

Loved the ping-pong game. Or, perhaps, the better designation would be: target practice. Teal'c didn't seem to be aiming for the table at all, just for Jack! And I loved his getting in "last licks", so to speak.

Loved Bra'tac. He was a riot in this episode. Who ever thought Bra'tac could do standup? <<g>> Loved the "rehearsing" line and his exchange with Jack in Jack's office--Jack can smell sucking up a mile away! And the way Jack gave him the nod to do the "Silence" bellow again.

Loved the scene between Sam and Jack in the corridor. Not just the whole touching bit, but also, when Jack turns around and seems to be eyeing some of the adult female warriors as they walk down the corridor, Sam grabs him and turns him around. LOL! (Also liked their little conversation about Teal'c. "The...*chicken*."<<g>>)

Loved the Sam and Daniel bit when they hear that the wedding is planned for the SGC. The patently insincere smiles were for Rya'c and Kalin (??), but the desperate hand clutch was communication between themselves: "Oh, god. Can I be somewhere else when Jack finds out."

Question: when Sam said she had to go find a planet, was she subtlely telling Daniel that *he* was going to have to tell Jack, since she was *so* busy finding a planet? :)

(BTW, wonder if they *did* go for the pinata?)

The one thing I had trouble with was Teal'c's attitude toward Ishta and the predicament of the female children. I thought he was more than a little chauvinistic in his attitude in "Birthright", and I saw it here again. Yes, if you can hit the Goa'uld from all sides, it would be better, but Ishta was faced with the fact that girl children were being slaughtered indiscriminantly, above and beyond what normally happens to Jaffa. Besides, Moloc was apparently aware of the growing disaffection among his Jaffa and probably would have taken action anyway.

I also didn't like the fact that Teal'c, in order to get Ishta to agree to let him come to the meeting, made a promise that he immediately broke. It spoke of a lack of respect for her.

And if you think about it, even with a new System Lord in control, the female children will probably be better off, since we haven't heard of any other Goa'uld engaging in the same practice.


J.

Livi2Jack
September 11th, 2004, 02:38 PM
My hubby pointed out that there are under the skin pumps which supply 30 days of medication in existence, so why the daily dose?

Livi2Jack
September 11th, 2004, 02:40 PM
>>..But I am left wondering what jaffa warriors need sharp knives for on their wedding night... I have a feeling I'm happier not knowing, though.<<<

>>..Any ideas of the nature of the "Rite of Orloc"?Teal'c advising the knife be as sharp as possible & R'yac's face was great.<<<<

Um self Circumcision?

Xerom
September 11th, 2004, 04:08 PM
They changed the ramp in the gate room now...iirc it used to be this see through grill type platform. Also theres a glow under the thing moves each when the chevon locks. Was this done before? i just noticed it this episode....

CkiCki
September 11th, 2004, 04:16 PM
P.S. I liked the horses. Must have been Netu to shoot. Oh, and Ry'ac reminded me a tad of Anakin Skywalker in Attack of the Clones (not a good thing. I HATED that guy, and I like Star Wars.)
OMG! I thought the same exact thing. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed! (Sorry, just had to say that- - - LOVED the episode though, definitely my favorite so far this season!)

Skydiver
September 11th, 2004, 05:47 PM
>>..Any ideas of the nature of the "Rite of Orloc"?Teal'c advising the knife be as sharp as possible & R'yac's face was great.<<<<

Um self Circumcision?


that's my guess.

good thing they got primta's so they can heal fast <G>

Ramne
September 11th, 2004, 08:33 PM
My hubby pointed out that there are under the skin pumps which supply 30 days of medication in existence, so why the daily dose?

As far as I know, those pumps are mainly used for severe pain relief. Instead of taking lots of pills, lots of injections, etc, it delivers the medication directly to the spinal cord. Because it sort of cuts out the middle man, and delivers right to the nervous system, less of the medication is needed. It is a more direct method, and does more for less.

I am assuming there is some discomfort, and chance of infection/rejection or such with a device like that, but it has got to be better than the pain and constant other sources of medication the patients are taking. A simple injection of Tritonin, that takes a couple seconds, and always works fully, when taken at the right times, would seem like a better option to me. I suppose I could attatch an IV to my arm and not have to worry about drinking water, but I would rather just grab a bottle/glass of water when I am thirsty. It's usually available, and only takes a few seconds to drink, and always works! No need to take extreme measures, because one day I might be stuck in a desert and thirsty. :)

Im_just_guessing
September 11th, 2004, 10:15 PM
I think that the "Right" kills the swim team, for some very long time.

Which would explain why Teal'c (Who I assume got married at a similar age as Ry'ac), didnt have a child for his first 80 years of marriage (didnt they say he was 101 once?).


It really bugs me that Bra'tac is only like 30 years older than Teal'c, I think they should have thought Teal'c's age out better.

Blend
September 11th, 2004, 10:19 PM
one of the best eps in Season 8 yet.

the ONLY thing that dissapointed me was not seeing the missiles hit.

OzGirl
September 12th, 2004, 04:57 AM
I thought the episode was enjoyable, and was *very* glad to see some off-world
action for a change!

Something about it seemed off, I mean, besides the usual season's lack
of better special effects and the soap opera atmosphere.
(I could just picture the supermarket tabloid headlines:
- Horses invade the SGC! Chaos reigns!
- Warrior son: "Daddy, can I use the Gateroom for the ceremony?"
- They want to marry, but she refuses to "obey"!
- Can Jaffa women find happiness without their symbiotes?
- Beautiful warrior babe & buff-bod former first prime: Can star-crossed Jaffa
warriors find happiness in this universe?
- Love at the SGC! **close-up on various lip-locks and glances**)

Sheesh! Talk about overdosing on relationships! Teal'c has been studly lately!

I have always been a fan of Stargate humor, most especially Jack's comedy,
but to me this seemed a tad forced in this episode -- maybe to make up
for lost time. Some of Jack's reactions were almost too much like mugging,
a bit over the top, too broad. I don't know how to explain it, except to say I have
always loved the O'Neill character the best. RDA plays humor a certain way,
and there just seemed to be some awkwardness -- for example, when he
touched the horses's rump as it passed him and Sam, or tried to shush the
people in the conference room -- more exaggerated than I'm used to. I put
it in "The Other Guys" category of almost slapstick comedy. But that's just
me! :) (I loved The Other Guys, but I enjoy O'Neill's more pointedly
cynical or sarcastic and subtle humor the best.)

And though I loved the comedy ping-pong scene, I couldn't believe that
the ball's impact would hurt so much as to make Jack clutch his thigh and
gasp, "God!" I mean, it's a *ping-pong* ball, not a golf ball! I've been
whacked by them from over-exuberant brothers, and at most they sting
a bit. I would be surprised if getting one hit in the crotch would make Jack's
voice change. Seemed a little whimpy to me! You males will have to
enlighten me on that one. LOL

auralan
September 12th, 2004, 06:06 AM
Gosh, I loved this one. Nobody writes Jaffa episodes like CJ. Nobody.

Things I liked:


A Jaffa story that wasn't boring. Somebody beg CJ to write all the big Jaffa episodes, please. He is wonderful at writing Teal'c and getting into the whole culture. Love his writing.
Ishta's revenge thing. Watching Teal'c have to deal with somebody elses Jaffa revenge thing was all kinds of fun. Heh. How's that shoe feel on the other foot, big guy?
Ishta. She went toe to toe with Teal'c and held her own. Love it. Easily one of the best recurring characters introduced in recent seasons. I hope we see much more of her and that more of the female guest characters have her kind of strength.
Teal'c/Ishta I don't usually ship more than one pair for any given show, but I'm begging for more with these two. They have an interesting relationship and chemistry to spare. I'd love to see more of them.
The comedy. Loved seeing Sam's fake smile in the gate scene, the whole ping pong bit and the horse in the halls.
That whole hall scene with the horse, the scantily clad Jaffa women and Jack's little meltdown was great. If there's a silver lining in the whole Pete mess for me, it's that Jack and Sam have lightened up a little and are actually acting like friends again. The closeness is nice, but I wonder what will happen with that if/when Pete's out of the picture.
Minimial Jack was handled well. He was in scenes that made sense, he wasn't glaringly missing in others, and we got comedy without making him look like a buffoon. Well done.
Bra'tac rocks. He was exceptionally well utilized in this episode and the acting was top notch. Loved it.


Things I didn't like (or just didn't make much sense):


What was with nobody mentioning Sam's engagement when there was a whole wedding being planned and happening on base? Seriously, wouldn't she say something or have somebody at least tease her about it? Very odd. Newly engaged couples usually can't shut up about being engaged and then they can't shut up about wedding planning. I expected a mention. That there wasn't one makes me wonder if she has gotten around to spreading the news. Still, it's even more odd if she hasn't told people. I don't get it.
Neil Denis and the actress who played Kalin (sp?) were the weak links for acting. With and Jolene Blalock and Tony Amendola delivering exceptional performances, the weaker guest actors stood out a little more jarringly than usual. I know it's hard to find young actors who can hold up against Tony Amendola, but giving them big dramatic bits made it rather obvious.
CJ isn't listed as the writer for any more episodes this season. Sniffle. Want more!

Blend
September 12th, 2004, 06:07 AM
lol i was thinking that too (about the ping pong ball)

It could get fired out of a baseball practice thing and it still would not hurt that much... theyre thin plastic shells lol!

Albion
September 12th, 2004, 06:43 AM
Maybe he was just hamming it up to get through to Teal'c - considering how deeply Teal'c was ignoring his pain completely. <g> A sort of hint - "Hey, ease up, buddy!"

That was one part of that scene that made me laugh loudest - when Jack tries to take advantage of Teal'c's distraction by cheating on the score and Teal'c promptly corrects him - "Score eight' as a casual, absent aside. Weren't paying attention for the rest of it, but didn't miss that one, huh, Teal'c? :p Even in the midst of fretting on your first born, you still have that competitive edge. ;)

Is there a continuity goof there btw? The last shot Teal'c makes goes straight past Jack, who makes no attempt to catch it. He never retrieves the ball, far as I can see. Yet when the alarm goes off, Teal'c has the ball and tosses it to Jack. I don't play ping pong, so perhaps there was a spare ball floating around as standard though. You ping pongers will have to enlighten me on that one. <g>

Also loved Jack Theory on Child Rearing 101: "I find sticking your fingers in your ears and humming loudly solves a whole slew of problems..." Wonderful.

Albion :)

keshou
September 12th, 2004, 07:11 AM
What was with nobody mentioning Sam's engagement when there was a whole wedding being planned and happening on base? Seriously, wouldn't she say something or have somebody at least tease her about it? Very odd. Newly engaged couples usually can't shut up about being engaged and then they can't shut up about wedding planning. I expected a mention.

My guess is that the production schedule is such that they're not really sure of the airing order of some of these first-half of the season episodes so they can't mention Sam's engagement unless they're absolutely sure the episode will be airing after Affinity. We've already heard that Covenant was originally scheduled to air before Affinity.

pettygrew
September 12th, 2004, 07:13 AM
lol i was thinking that too (about the ping pong ball)

It could get fired out of a baseball practice thing and it still would not hurt that much... theyre thin plastic shells lol!

They can sting.

Think of it this way: Jack was trying to get Teal'c to release some of his anger, and rather than sparring, where he could really get hurt, he decided to have him play ping pong. :)


pettygrew

michelleb
September 12th, 2004, 08:48 AM
Ok, i really really loved this episode. Normally, i'm bored stiff by Jaffa episodes, (same as i am for Kinglon episodes) but this was brilliant. Funny, well-paced, lots of action..and for once, a really really good villan. I thought Moloch (am i spelling that right?) was fantastic, shame he was missiled to death (or was he? Never saw that...maybe he'll do an Apophis). He actually had more to say then 'You will pay for your impudence' and continued that whole 'I am your God!' thread, and talked about saving souls, and predicting things as any false god would..some of the best dialogue i've heard from a gou'ald (Anubis shouldn't talk. really. not scary when he talks).

nice to see bra'tac doing something more than beating the crap out to teal'c, then teaching someone else to beat the crap out of people. bra'tac humour!!! and ishta was fantastic!! i must admit, i do not like T'Pal at all..but ishta is fantastic...i'd love to see more of her.

and there was honest-to-goodness, real, comfortable ship in this. Teal'c/Ishta, R'yac/Corinne, even sam/jack. CJ seems one of the few writers comfortable with writing real, honest human interaction. and it was such a relief to see the ship there, after the awkwardness and half-finished conversations we've seen between sam and jack in the last few weeks. and the ping pong game was hysterical!

and so was daniel, with that huge grin that spread across his face when he realised the base was going to be full of jaffa women warriors! (down, boy)

Christopher Judge ha definietly become one of the best writers, and i hope he continues, not just for SG1, but atlantis, and other shows (he could teach the enterprise writers a thing or two). he has real talent, not just for plot, but actual character work.

and finally..sam/jack ship!!! i loved it!!! more please? if i ask very nicely..can i have more, like this? they were so comfortable and relaxed together, it was wonderful to see.

Jolinarsam
September 12th, 2004, 09:02 AM
Did anyone else look at Rya'c's fiancée during the rehearsal and think she looked like a sixteen-year-old version of Sha're?


OOH! Me! Me! Me!

I'm surprised not many people mentioned this. I thought she looked so much like Sha're. It was nice to be reminded of her.

Jolinarsam
September 12th, 2004, 09:06 AM
They changed the ramp in the gate room now...iirc it used to be this see through grill type platform. Also theres a glow under the thing moves each when the chevon locks. Was this done before? i just noticed it this episode....


I noticed that too. But then I figured maybe it was covered so the horses could just go up the ramp without having the steps at the bottom.

Plus it's probably easier to clean, if you know what I mean, when it's not grated and then can just remove the board covering the ramp. ;)

Lugal
September 12th, 2004, 09:12 AM
Random thoughts on Sacrifices

Great episode. Great Acting all around especially Tony Amendola and Jolene Blalock, (although she may have over done it alittle with the hand device).

I loved the humor in this one: Bra'tac's "I see the wisdom in rehersing these events line" right before he takes a sip of the (I assume) ceremonial wine. The ping pong match was great and just the sight of horses wandering through the SGC was cool. "O'Neill of Minnesota"

I thought the whole Ryac and his fiance not "respecting each other" moments felt a little forced. Maybe her not knowing about the kneeling part may be because of a difference in the Moloc and Apophis Jaffa wedding ceremonies?

Christopher Judge is a great writer. :) I wish they would have let him title it My Big Fat Jaffa Wedding

Sam & Jack Shipper
September 12th, 2004, 10:21 AM
Both times in the last 2 years when CJ has written a script, I haven't really looked forward to them (mainly because I didn't like Changeling) and both times I have have been wrong.
Birthright was one of my favorite episodes last season and now Sacrifices will be right up as the top of my favorites for this season.
I really enjoyed how all the various plots were wound together. I enjoyed the humor and the seriousness of it. I enjoy Teal'c having more than 2 words to say!
I really loved the little Sam/Jack scene in the hall! :D
And too bad Mol'ac (sorry if that is misspelled) was killed. Another fine looking Go'auld and we won't get to see him again. :mad:
I rated this an outstanding episode. :)

Bandersnatch
September 12th, 2004, 10:30 AM
Howdy Campers,

My two cents on Sacrifices:

* This episode was really good compared to the last few shows

* They used Mr. RDA soooo much better than they have been -- kudos to the production staff/writers for that one

* The horses in the SGC -- now that was great! I've added something else to my list of things I want to do before I get old: Ride a horse through the Stargate -- or at least down the ramp!

* The ping pong game between O'Neill and Teal'c was perfect. Especially when O'Neill sneaks in the point as Teal'c turns to leave. I guess even Generals can have down time while at work.

* The whole opening scene with Daniel rambling on, O'Neill missing the turn (classic, I say) and than never really answering O'Neill's question to begin with.

* I can't believe other people thought that Ry'ac was reminiscent of Anakin Skywalker -- a foreshadow of the future??

* Is it just me or is AT picking up on the Canadian accent? Listen to her saying "out" -- oh, yeah -- it's there :)

Over all, I liked the show. It was a fast paced, Earth and off world based, it had honest humor, a continuation of Teal'c's story, great sets, and the horses -- well, they go without saying. Keep up the good work, Stargate Productions!

Zoser
September 12th, 2004, 10:45 AM
I wasn't really looking forward to this episode. I do love Teal'c, but the whole Jaffa thing has never interested me all that much, and I didn't like Birthright at all last year.

Not crazy about the Jaffa either



I was pleasantly surprised though. It had some great scenes with all the team members, which I always enjoy. The Sam/Daniel scene was adorable. I loved the smiles on their faces. The teaser was simply classic Jack and Daniel. I love it when Daniel babbles on in professor-mode, although I don't know if MS likes it all that much. And Jack's innocuous question. :D

Great to see the whole team in one episode - even though they were together only for the wedding



I loved the reactions of the team to the Jaffa and all their animals taking over the SGC. Jack and Bra'tac were great together..."you old coot". And there were quite a few other moments as well.

I love the old coot. The chaos was funny but totally unprofessional - no way to run a first line of defense.


I think they did a good job of integrating the Jaffa storyline with the rest of the cast, better than in the past, anyway. I'm never going to be a big fan of this particular arc, but I liked it better than Covenant, at least.

All in all, I felt it was a good episode.

It certainly was better than Covenant or Affinity.
When are they going to write a script where Jack and Sam react as adults.

Zoser
September 12th, 2004, 11:04 AM
What was with nobody mentioning Sam's engagement when there was a whole wedding being planned and happening on base? Seriously, wouldn't she say something or have somebody at least tease her about it? Very odd. Newly engaged couples usually can't shut up about being engaged and then they can't shut up about wedding planning. I expected a mention. That there wasn't one makes me wonder if she has gotten around to spreading the news. Still, it's even more odd if she hasn't told people. I don't get it.

Yes you would think with a wedding being planned in the SGC, Sam's engagement might be mentioned even if it was just to cite different customs like the kneeling to the husband.

Oh yeah, I thought Jaffa didn't consume alcohol. Bra'tac scarfs down the ceremonial glass of wine(?)

Zoser
September 12th, 2004, 11:08 AM
They can sting.

Think of it this way: Jack was trying to get Teal'c to release some of his anger, and rather than sparring, where he could really get hurt, he decided to have him play ping pong. :)


pettygrew

And we all know that Jack only whines about little things. If his legs is hanging on by a thread, he says he is fine; if he has a hangnail, he moans and groans.

Sam & Jack Shipper
September 12th, 2004, 11:16 AM
Oh, and: The Goa'uld eye glowing is back! For real this time! Yay! :D
Another thing I thought was a nice touch was that this time, the "obvious jaffa traitor" actually didn't turn out to be a bad guy! Didn't see that one coming! :D
I was surprised at that one too. I really thought he was a traitor.

Sam fan
September 12th, 2004, 11:39 AM
OOOOOOH I really liked this episode!! Very funny, very good I loved the Friendly interaction between Sam and Jack, touchy feeliness!!! Yeah!!

Skydiver
September 12th, 2004, 11:41 AM
* Is it just me or is AT picking up on the Canadian accent? Listen to her saying "out" -- oh, yeah -- it's there :)



actually, it's there more often than that. in Memento you can hear it, especially in her 'hello'....even back in singularity.

she doesn't have much of one, but it really shows on the 'o' 's

Wyrminarrd
September 12th, 2004, 01:29 PM
I didn´t like this episode. The basic idea was a fairly good one and it certainly beats all the earth heavy stuff we have been getting lately.

The problem with it was that I thought the writing was horrible, the dialog was poorly writen and the acting not up to standard.

It´s only saving grace would have been the missiles ramming into the jaffa and the goa´uld but of course they didn´t show that. :(

Dani347
September 12th, 2004, 01:41 PM
actually, it's there more often than that. in Memento you can hear it, especially in her 'hello'....even back in singularity.

she doesn't have much of one, but it really shows on the 'o' 's


I noticed it a lot in Lockdown, during the scene where they talked about Teal'c's apartment. Didn't hear it so much here.

Albion
September 12th, 2004, 02:17 PM
Re the letting everyone wander loose around the SGC. There is a difference between Ishta's people and the Tollans someone cited earlier, however.

The Tollans were an unknown, they had already shown themselves to be ungrateful, hostile, unfriendly and were technologically vastly superior to us. Of course they were confined and guarded.

In contrast, by this time, Ishta and her people are allies. A much better comparision would be with the Tok'ra than the Tollans. Her camp is relatively small, so it's not unlikely that by this point the SGC know most everyone well.

Albion :)

Jamaica03
September 12th, 2004, 02:48 PM
So far this is one of my favorite episodes of season 8. It had some nice action, it was funny and I really liked the interaction between the SG1 team members. They were funny and comfortable with each other, which was nice to see. It was great to see all the development between the Jaffa women, the SGC. I did appreciate the Carter and O'Neill moment, it was pretty nice. Chris Judge should definitely write for Stargate more often.

muffo
September 12th, 2004, 02:50 PM
Since I am fond of saying when I don't like something, it is only fair that I chime in when I do like an episode.

I would not rate this episode as highly as some of you have, but I did find it better than others this season. The humor was enjoyable---the walk-and-talk with Daniel and Jack, the chaos with the women, children and horse, the Daniel and Sam scene with Ryac and Karin(sp?), the walk-and-talk with Jack and Sam, the ping pong/target practice, the "old coot" line to Bratac--Bratac in general, the horse in the hall, all the scenes with Jack. This episode had a good "feel".

The story moved well and was not as disjointed as some of the other stories this season. I'm not a big fan of the Jaffa world, but it is always nice to see that Teal'c has a life that he is committed to. I've noticed from some of the earlier episodes that Teal'c has the most complete character of the four. He has the religious mysticism. He is the product of a highly structured society that he respects, but also questions. He's strong, yet he can weep and hug without embarassment at the proper time. He is quiet and stoic, but he is a presence nonetheless. When he speaks, it is because he has something to say. He does have flaws, just as the rest do. Not bad for a guy you'd certainly like to have guarding your back in good fight.

The strong story is the Ishta fanaticism. It is good counterpoint to Teal'c's earlier short approaches to the destruction of the Goa'ld. He shows he has learned a lot. I, as did someone else, find it strange that Ishta would have allowed herself to be captured. The ending showed that maybe Ishta has learned something also.

The substitution of the tritonin(sp?) for the primta is disquieting. We have gotten these people hooked on drugs like the Goa'ld got the bounty hunter's people hooked on that drug. Is this a good thing? Inquiring minds want to know.

One thing no one has mentioned is the survival of that DHD when the missiles exploded on Moloc. How could the DHD have made it when the two missiles landed practically on top of it since they were "painted" on Moloc and he was standing right next to it? I understand how the gate would be ok because it is tough and has withstood worse, but DHDs seem more fragile and I would think it would be a small black, burning lump of materials when those missiles went off. How then do they get back through the gate? Just asking.

Thanks for listening--er-reading.

Major Fischer
September 12th, 2004, 02:55 PM
One thing no one has mentioned is the survival of that DHD when the missiles exploded on Moloc. How could the DHD have made it when the two missiles landed practically on top of it since they were "painted" on Moloc and he was standing right next to it? I understand how the gate would be ok because it is tough and has withstood worse, but DHDs seem more fragile and I would think it would be a small black, burning lump of materials when those missiles went off. How then do they get back through the gate? Just asking.

In most cases where we've seen the gate survive something significantly bad, the DHD has as well. I don't think it's all that fragile (they seem to survive being barried under rock, ocean, ice, explosions...

kiwigater
September 12th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Since I am fond of saying when I don't like something, it is only fair that I chime in when I do like an episode.
<snip for space>

One thing no one has mentioned is the survival of that DHD when the missiles exploded on Moloc. How could the DHD have made it when the two missiles landed practically on top of it since they were "painted" on Moloc and he was standing right next to it? I understand how the gate would be ok because it is tough and has withstood worse, but DHDs seem more fragile and I would think it would be a small black, burning lump of materials when those missiles went off. How then do they get back through the gate? Just asking.

Thanks for listening--er-reading.

yeah, I wondered about that too. I have no idea how powerful those missiles were supposed to be, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and figure that Moloc was just shy of the DHD (not standing right next to it), and the DHD is strong enough to withstand SOME attack. I guess you could consider a manual dial if needbe...... :S

pettygrew
September 12th, 2004, 03:06 PM
It's possible that when they had their symbiots, Bra'tac and Teal'c could not have alcohol. Now that they no longer have symbiots, they can.

Teal'c
September 12th, 2004, 04:51 PM
yeah, I wondered about that too. I have no idea how powerful those missiles were supposed to be, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and figure that Moloc was just shy of the DHD (not standing right next to it), and the DHD is strong enough to withstand SOME attack. I guess you could consider a manual dial if needbe...... :S
Plus the DHD actually survived the meteor strike in A Hundred Days, it was just badly damaged (You see Jack using it in Shades of Grey)

Azrial
September 12th, 2004, 06:55 PM
two things stood out for me in this episode:

Teal'c run into the base with the two jaffa sticks (cant remember what they are called) stacked on each other.

and how much Aron looked like The Cat from Red Dwarf especially with the hair

the dancer of spaz
September 12th, 2004, 09:02 PM
Isn't AT a Canadian resident? I thought she's been there for a while.

Albion
September 13th, 2004, 03:03 AM
I, as did someone else, find it strange that Ishta would have allowed herself to be captured.

I've only seen that part once, so I'd have to look again, but my impression first time around was that she'd gotten herself captured deliberately. Though what her reason for that was escaped me at the time. To prevent the other prisoners being tortured maybe? She was concerned about that and rescuing them and clearly angry that Teal'c wouldn't mount a rescue attempt. Perhaps she thought that if Moloc had her he'd concentrate his efforts on her - which it appears he did - and leave the others alone. Kind of a dodgy theory mind you. Kind of reckless too. But then she's not exactly the most cool-headed of leaders. <g> Course first impressions are often wrong and further viewings might just completely negate all of the above. <g>

I'm pretty sure I've seen AT listed as Canadian in interviews, etc.

The Cat??!? Until now I hadn't noticed the connection but ROTFL!

Like others, I doubt the DVD would be destroyed. Remember it's apparently made of the same material as the 'Meaning of Life Stuff' pedestal and it took a direct hit with a staff weapon and wasn't even scratched. It wouldn't make sense anyway to build a Stargate that could withstand so much explosive power as we've seen over the years and make the DVD of something more flimsy that wouldn't stand up likewise. So I'd assume it was made to last too.
Otherwise, I'd suspect, over the years, there were a lot of stranded Ancients around.

Albion :)

Livi2Jack
September 13th, 2004, 05:12 AM
It's possible that when they had their symbiots, Bra'tac and Teal'c could not have alcohol. Now that they no longer have symbiots, they can.
Maybe it's just Teal'c who does not drink alcohol.

I really liked this ep. I enjoy explorations of personal issues and motivations as they provide character development. And Jack/RDA is wonderful whenever he is on screen. THAT's the show. He is so perfect as a reluctant General. I hope he is enjoying exploring that side of the character as much as I am. Good use of his screen time. And the horses were hysterical...O'Neill of Minnesota?! LMAO!
What's that smell...the horses? I think it was a double play by O'Neill to the BS Bratac was shoveling at him.

WurdBendur
September 13th, 2004, 05:28 AM
The one thing that intrigued me about this episode was the alien writing in the message they got. It was obviously supposed to be cuneiform, but the letters are shaped like the Ancient alphabet, which are three colums x 4 rows. I wonder if that message actually said anything. Does anybody have a screen shot?

greytop
September 13th, 2004, 05:49 AM
I know this has probably been said before but I hate reading five pages of post when it is just my opinion.

I loved the horse being brought in to SGC but Iskanka's(sp) people. Please let there be a dog roaming around the command center, sort like a base mascot. :rolleyes:

LtLisa
September 13th, 2004, 07:13 AM
I loved this episode!

CJ did a great job writing, by far my favorite of his three...PTB, PLEASE keep letting him write for you!

and I LOVED the Sam/Jack scene in the hall...see PTB? thats all it takes to make a happy shipper...just a scene, not an entire episode.

loved the horses in the halls...too funny

and of course painting the target right on Moloc! I almost fell out of my chair! (then went oh of course...but what do I know about painting targets?)

omg, Ry'ac had hair too! a little shorter might make him look a little older...

very cool to see a Jaffa wedding, although I wanted to really hear/see the resolution to the kneeling issue (which me and my friends discussed every time there was a commercial...I so agreed with Karin). Thank God it wasn't some Earth/human wedding...that wouldn't have been good, but this was

kiwigater
September 13th, 2004, 09:30 AM
two things stood out for me in this episode:

Teal'c run into the base with the two jaffa sticks (cant remember what they are called) stacked on each other.

and how much Aron looked like The Cat from Red Dwarf especially with the hair

LMAO, that occurred to me to! I actually took a second look to make sure it wasn't. How cool a guest star would THAT be?? :D :D :D


Plus the DHD actually survived the meteor strike in A Hundred Days, it was just badly damaged (You see Jack using it in Shades of Grey)

ah, yes. I remember that. So, there we go, the DHD is strong enough to survive close impact of 2 missiles.....

auralan
September 13th, 2004, 09:39 AM
My guess is that the production schedule is such that they're not really sure of the airing order of some of these first-half of the season episodes so they can't mention Sam's engagement unless they're absolutely sure the episode will be airing after Affinity. We've already heard that Covenant was originally scheduled to air before Affinity.

That's possible, but I really wish they could be a little better at figuring out their own schedule. I'm getting tired of hearing production issues excuses for so many things. I know they have issues to work around, but you'd think they'd be getting used to it by now.

Jamaica03
September 13th, 2004, 09:28 PM
Anyone know what happened to Jacob in this episode? Wasn't he supposed to be in it?

Sam_o_Neill
September 14th, 2004, 09:37 AM
Ok, I finally got to watch the whole episode and here is my review....:D

I actually liked this episode a lot, I don't think its the best one ofthe season but it was defiantely good.
I LOVED all the team interaction, Jack/Teal'c, Daniel/Sam and Sam/Jack.
There was a lot of Jack in this one IMO but thinking about it Jack has been in the other eps quite a lot too. I think TPTB have done a great Job with RDA's reduced schedule this season it feels like he's back to normal again :D:D

And we had a briefing!!!, I was short but it was good. I miss how SG-1 used to sit round the briefing table and chat about what was going on and it didn't feel like we had seen that for quite a while.

The ping pong at the start was really fun :) especially Jacks little shot at the end :P
The scene between Sam and Daniel in the gate room was fun but it didn't seem right to me....too touchy for Sam/Daniel :S

Bratac was fun in this too, I like Bratacs sense of humour :)

I'm glad Rya'cs Wife didn't want to kneel in front of him! all I have to say is You Go Girl! :P

The big argument was fun Daniel looked so lost in the middle of it all :)

and I also loved the Sam/Jack scene in the corridor, they seemed so comfortable together like they were in the earlier seasons, they've been quite tense around each other lately. I'm glad that Pete has come between their friendship, I know i'm all for lots of ship but while Sam is with Pete I wouldn't want her to do anything serious with Jack she's not that kind of person.
I'm happy seeing them so comfortable with each other and just being friends it nice and I hope we get more of that in other episodes :D

OK, review over,
I give this episode 8/10 :D

Albion
September 14th, 2004, 10:02 AM
Anyone know what happened to Jacob in this episode? Wasn't he supposed to be in it?

Nope, not this episode, that I know of. Certainly, I never read any spoilers which said he was.

Albion :)

IdiotBoy
September 14th, 2004, 08:54 PM
* Is it just me or is AT picking up on the Canadian accent? Listen to her saying "out" -- oh, yeah -- it's there :)




Well, it wouldn't surprise me. I'm not sure whether or not she is Canadian, but I know she's been up here for more than just the 8 season run of SG1. She had her acting training at my University!

(Hearing about this, I didn't know what to think, whether I should be excited that Amanda Tapping went to my school, or irritated that the director of the school of dramatic art referred to the program as SG_I_)

michelleb
September 15th, 2004, 08:32 AM
Anyone know what happened to Jacob in this episode? Wasn't he supposed to be in it?

no, jacob is in threads. actually, i heard pete was going to be in it, but he wasn't. what a shame <insert sarcastic grin here>

Tok'Ra Hostess
September 15th, 2004, 04:19 PM
Just saw it on squinty. Loved the story, the humour, the acting. Great job, CJ! :)

But, wow, did Teal'c ever sound like a Tok'Ra!

Shivan
September 15th, 2004, 04:35 PM
Yes this was an amazing episode. People who say different are actually really wrong.

the dancer of spaz
September 15th, 2004, 10:44 PM
Well, it wouldn't surprise me. I'm not sure whether or not she is Canadian, but I know she's been up here for more than just the 8 season run of SG1. She had her acting training at my University!

(Hearing about this, I didn't know what to think, whether I should be excited that Amanda Tapping went to my school, or irritated that the director of the school of dramatic art referred to the program as SG_I_)

Make it a little bit of both. While the former fact is really freaking cool, the latter is completely reprehensible. You should correct him - uh, respectfully, of course. :P

Jamaica03
September 16th, 2004, 10:22 PM
Nope, not this episode, that I know of. Certainly, I never read any spoilers which said he was.
Albion :)


no, jacob is in threads. actually, i heard pete was going to be in it, but he wasn't. what a shame <insert sarcastic grin here>


This is from gateworld:

"I'm pitching kind of a three-episode arc for next year where Teal'c will undergo further changes. Again, it's a chance to see Carmen [Argenziano, Jacob Carter] and Tony [Amendola, Bra'tac], and it's like when the family all gets together, you know?" The story may well see the return of actress Jolene Blalock as the Jaffa warrior Ishta ("Birthright"). "We talked about it, and she said, any time. So, I'm going to hold her to it! It's part of the three-part arc. I haven't fully pitched it, so I can't really go into too many details, but it would probably be for multiple episodes that she'd be back. So we'll see. I really think it's going to be hard, because I think her feature career is probably going to really take off, so it might be difficult to get her for any length of time." (Actor Christopher Judge, in an interview with the Stargate SG-1 Explorer Unit official fan club)

Do you think there is going to be a follow up of Sacrifices?

Albion
September 19th, 2004, 07:24 AM
Well, CJ may have pitched it as a three story arc, but obviously in the end it didn't pan out that way. Instead, Sacrifices became a single stand alone episode. Happens all the time. Plans change throughout production and the final episode that hits the screen isn't always necessarily what was pitched months previously.

As someone else said (I was trying to avoid spoilers in my previous post but since it's already been mentioned... <G>) Jacob is in the upcoming episode Threads and it may be that elements of CJ's pitch for that three story arc have been shifted into various episodes, Threads perhaps being one of them.

Albion :)

muffo
September 19th, 2004, 10:16 AM
To those of you who pointed out that the DHD could and probably would have survived, I concede the issue. I really had not thought it through and now agree that its survival was not in any real jeapordy. It just seemed like, at that moment, all I could see was Jaffa, Goa'uld and DHD going bye-bye.

Jolinarsam
September 23rd, 2004, 12:39 PM
Does anyone else agree with Alli Snow's review of 'Sacrifices' when she mentioned the tendency for Sam to seem more like Amanda Tapping in this ep? I know I do.

I noticed this especially in the scene where Sam and Daniel get huge grins on their faces after hearing about the wedding. There was a whole lot of Amanda shining through. It just didn't seem like Sam standing there. All I saw was MS and AT having some fun on set.

Sam has never smiled like that before, even when she was expressing similar emotions. It looked more like Amanda's bubbly personality. Of course this could be explained by saying the character is growing and changing. However, having seen Amanda in person, I think there was more of her personality coming through in this scene than Sam's.

At first I thought maybe I was just reading too much into it, but now that someone else has stated the same thing, maybe I'm not alone. :S Even so, the whole thing still made me laugh and it was nice to see some Sam/Daniel friendship.

suzziq1
November 30th, 2004, 12:39 PM
Loved the ep. What is Tailgate Tuesday ? Jack mentioned it to bra'tac??

Crazedwraith
November 30th, 2004, 01:02 PM
Good Episode. Was it just me or did Istha seems very panicy and overwrought throughout the episode? Liked Moloc's death. Glad they remembered about the Missles.
Also Ryac seemed very shiny as though his bottom lips was wet or something...

Ugly Pig
November 30th, 2004, 01:04 PM
Good Episode. Was it just me or did Istha seems very panicy and overwrought throughout the episode?
She was very... intense.

Crazedwraith
November 30th, 2004, 01:23 PM
Also it was strange seeing Bra'tac without is little metal Helmet thingie. Am I right in thinking this is the first time we've seen Bra'tac as Bra'tac without his helmet? (I know we saw him like it in "Changeling" but that was Bray not Bra'ac)

Ancients Rising
November 30th, 2004, 02:50 PM
Liked Moloc's death. Glad they remembered about the Missles.

I absolutely love that. Seeing the laser on him...you just knew he was in deep doo doo.

Another point I want to pick up on is that there was a lot of over-acting in this ep. Just made it so...what's the word...fake in some instances.

Anyhow, these are just merely filler episodes for the goodness that is coming in the second half of this season. Second half looks very promising, very very promising...hope I haven't cursed it! :)

Matt G
November 30th, 2004, 04:12 PM
Well this ep was mad - but it worked!

1. If Kar'in/Corrine/Ry'ac's girl was the hot female I saw photos of a few days ago on the forum, well she was cute in this ep but her brattiness knocked her down a point or two. Having said that, Ry'ac wasn't much better in this ep.

2. Horses in the SGC! Two words and the first isn't PG!

3. Pretty good character interplay generally, liked Jack cutting Bra'tac down to size after his brown-nosing.

4. You had to have a laugh when Moloc realised that he could brush the red dot away.

5. And no I don't want to know what that rite Teal'c and Ry'ac were talking about at the end was. THat last scene was pretty cool though!

Madeleine
December 1st, 2004, 05:25 AM
Matt, right with you on 2-5 :) especially the red dot bit.

I really enjoyed this ep. CJ's third script, and third success IMO. I loved how it touched on Teal'c's relationship with Ryac right from CotG and even before then. I'm not really one for fight scenes, normally I sit through them waiting for the next bit of dialogue, but the ones in this ep held my interest. I couldn't say if it was because they were particularly good or just that it's been a while since the last fight scene. (Although I did giggle when T ran straight down an exposed track firing at *and hiting* every concealed-in-the-bushes Jaffa who aimed at him, while they inevitably missed. SuperTeal'c!)

Unfeasible battle-scenario aside, this recent stretch of eps has been a great one for Teal'c. He's had dialogue, action, character development, and even carried the story a few times. And he's played ping-pong; LOL at his face in the first shot of him in that scene :D

.:Lemon:.
December 1st, 2004, 07:41 AM
I really enjoyed this episode. Probably my favourite of season 8 so far. I thought it was very interesting, which I haven't often said about Stargate recently. I think CJ writes some really good episodes, and I hope he does one in season 9 :)

Crazedwraith
December 1st, 2004, 12:27 PM
I really enjoyed this ep. CJ's third script, and third success IMO.

Hasn't he written (is that even a word? should it be wrote?) four?

The Warrior (S5)
The Changeling (S6)
Birthright (S7)
Sacrifices (S8)

Anyhoo just one minor gripe wit this episode, aside from Teal'c's uber charcter shields, where was Neith? and her older sister? I wanted another scene with them and Daniel.

Lunar
December 1st, 2004, 03:40 PM
I really think this was the best ep of Season 8 so far!
:)
I know it was Teal'c centric, but there did seem to be little snippets of extremely well written interaction between the rest of SG-1. It was funny, action packed and had explosions (as well as a little tidbit for the shippy minded amongst us!)
It seems a shame one of the actors had to write my personal *best ep so far* rather than one of the staff writers... :(
I loved the ping-pong scene! Hysterically funny. I laughed when Moloc tried to brush away the red laser sight, too.
I loved Teal'c's little run down the path too, with the two staffs tied together, when he miraculously hit every jaffa and managed not to take a hit himself! :D
Brill ep! Wish all the character centric stories were as good as this one!

Madeleine
December 1st, 2004, 06:53 PM
CJ pitched the story for The Warrior, but I don't think he wrote the script.


well as a little tidbit for the shippy minded amongst us!

The hands on shoulders bit? Yes, that was nice. I saw it as pretty anti-shippy. So a nice ambiguous non-exclusive moment. I'm trying to enjoy it while it lasts :S

shelsfc
December 2nd, 2004, 04:16 AM
Definitly one of the best so far.
CJ is such a good writer. I loved the Teal'c/Ry'ac scenes. Not too sure about Ry'ac's haircut though.... :p
All the little 'can't believe this is happening' moments were hilarious.

Hope there's more like this to come. :D

Major Fischer
December 2nd, 2004, 04:37 AM
Hasn't he written (is that even a word? should it be wrote?) four?

The Warrior (S5)
The Changeling (S6)
Birthright (S7)
Sacrifices (S8)

Anyhoo just one minor gripe wit this episode, aside from Teal'c's uber charcter shields, where was Neith? and her older sister? I wanted another scene with them and Daniel.

The story for the Warrior was by Chris Judge, but the teleplay was written by someone else. He didn't actually get to write an episode until the Changeling.

michelleb
December 2nd, 2004, 04:47 AM
Totally the best episode of season eight so far. Funny, touching, lots of jack..lots of the entire team....I'm normally bored by jaffa-centric episodes, but this was fascinating, Moloch a great villain, Ishta back, Brat'tac, R'yac..i loved it (and there was even ship, for us shippers). Coming after Covenant, the worst episode of this season, and possibly ever, this was wonderful.

Chris Judge should write a lot more. He's seriously one of the best writers they have.

Ascended_Asgard
December 2nd, 2004, 06:18 AM
I liked covenant..... it was daring to say the least.

lionel_pendergast_rocks
December 3rd, 2004, 01:37 PM
The only really cool thing about this episode, i think, was when teal'c strapped the two staff weapons together and ran down that path, shooting all the jaffa.

astronomicalchick
December 5th, 2004, 12:31 PM
I really quite liked this episode, for the first time this season, it felt like it had a decent plot and was going somewhere..

thought R'yac looked a bit young to be getting married..

astronomicalchick
December 5th, 2004, 12:32 PM
Totally the best episode of season eight so far. Funny, touching, lots of jack..lots of the entire team....I'm normally bored by jaffa-centric episodes, but this was fascinating, Moloch a great villain, Ishta back, Brat'tac, R'yac..i loved it (and there was even ship, for us shippers). Coming after Covenant, the worst episode of this season, and possibly ever, this was wonderful.

Chris Judge should write a lot more. He's seriously one of the best writers they have.

I agree Michelle, after so many indifferent episodes this one had so much more ommph to it. and I was surprised because usually jaffa episodes bore me!

I thought Moloch was cute!!

Anubis
December 6th, 2004, 08:42 AM
Better than what reviews I had read of the ep. I read some that said it was ok and fair, however I'd agree, these episodes tend to bore and drag, however it was quite the opposite this time round. :)

It seems S8 is a lot more focused around Teal'c and certainly Carter more than before, not forgetting Daniel. ;) Nice to see the return of Ishta too.

MagnoliaAnaglypta
December 10th, 2004, 03:46 AM
Good episode I thought, although I haven't been keeping up with who is writing what and had no idea that CJ had a hand in it - should have suspected it really as he tends to produce well balanced ideas which involve the whole cast, give him lip action with some attractive female, and include a modicum of humour.

Loved the Sam/Daniel reaction to the news that the wedding would be held in the base. Loved Sam abandoning Daniel to tell Jack himself and then clearly Daniel managed to hand the whole task on to Bra'tac!

Loved Bra'tac. Great value in every episode he appears in, and a lovely subtle handling of the humerous elements. He's the epitome of the wise old warrior - flexible enough to adapt to situations, which is why he's stayed alive so long. I loved the 'I can see why one needs to rehearse these occasions' and the long gulp of, presumably wine. I loved the, 'may you love and fight like warriors - just not with each other', which I'm sure wasn't part of the official ceremony!

Kudos to the person who had groomed that horse in the passageway, beautifully turned out...

The second half on the planet did get a little tedious in comparison with the base scenes, and I couldn't help thinking that there is still some underlying Jaffa prejudice - if the children being sacrificed had been male babies I feel sure the Jaffa army would not have been nearly so eager to do nothing about it!

All in all, a vast improvement on the Coulson episode which I found tedious, and a good mid-season filler episode which still managed to advance the show's ongoing stories a little bit.

Did I mention Bra'tac? Don't have quite so much time for Ryac, but love the old coot.

Crazedwraith
December 10th, 2004, 06:29 AM
Just one thought on this epsiode:

why does "O'Neill of Minnesota" not have quite the same ring as: "Hammond of Texas"

Matt G
December 10th, 2004, 09:05 AM
The bigger question is how did Bra'tac know about the Minnisota part? Jack introduced himself as 'Jack of the Windy City'(i.e Chicago) in 'Family'(and I think Bra'tac was in that scene)

Erik Pasternak
December 12th, 2004, 04:22 PM
The bigger question is how did Bra'tac know about the Minnisota part? Jack introduced himself as 'Jack of the Windy City'(i.e Chicago) in 'Family'(and I think Bra'tac was in that scene)
Maybe Teal'c told him. I dunno.

Matt G
December 13th, 2004, 08:28 AM
Good point but still, Jack reffered to himself as a Chicago native in S2. He didn't even mention Minnisota till S4 and we only found out he was raised there in S5. Through all that time, he was living in Colarado.

See the problem?

Ugly Pig
December 13th, 2004, 02:10 PM
Not really. He could have talked to Bra'tac about it off-screen at any point in time.

Matt G
December 13th, 2004, 02:54 PM
I guess Jack could claim Chicago was in Minnisota and Bra'tac would be none the wiser.

jckfan55
December 13th, 2004, 04:09 PM
Just one thought on this epsiode:

why does "O'Neill of Minnesota" not have quite the same ring as: "Hammond of Texas"

Yes, but I think that's partly what made that scene funny. I think O'Neill in the movie was from Chicago, but I bet since RDA is from Minnesota he made *his* O'Neill grow up in Minn.

SeaBee
January 23rd, 2005, 06:06 AM
I thought this ep was ok. Not good, not bad, but ok. Liked the bit where Bra'tac started drinking the ceremonial wine.

Kelso
February 22nd, 2005, 04:53 AM
I missed this episode when it aired... and then I happened to find a tape this weekend. I don't even remember my parents recording it for me, or me bringing home the tape. Oh well... what a pleasant suprise...

I loved this episode. Plenty of humor, plenty of action... plenty of story development. I think it's nice that Ryac has grown up so much. 'Family' was on last night, and it's amazing that the show has been on so long. Hopefully, he and Karyn will have a lil' Jaffa of their own in S9.

Bratac was great in this ep. and Ishta was fine too. I like that Judge took the chance to combine all of the character from Teal'c's life into one episode ;)

Also... I still love Teal'c's new look.

solar wind
May 4th, 2005, 04:53 PM
enjoyed this episode alot. Unfortunately I missed at least the first 10 min, for some reason it didn't tape. I checked the transcript and it looks like I missed some pretty good stuff, Daniel Sam interaction as well as Jack Teal'c playing ping pong. Oh well, something to look forward to for reruns.

I am a bit dissapointed with the way Jack has been always sarcastic and rarely serious anymore. I love his sarcasm and humour, but it's so much better when mixed with his intelligence and tactics as we've seen when he's in action, generally off-world. I wanna see him in command, doing what has to be done, again. Sorry, a bit of ranting, it just seems being stuck on base all the time hasn't been good for him. But things change.
I did enjoy the scenes in the corridor with him a Carter, and the horse!

And that was a cool shot of Teal'c, Ishta, and the other Jaffa. In the forest at night, with the mist and moonlight and that music. thought it was cool.

Stricken
May 26th, 2005, 04:42 AM
Best part of the episode was Teal'c running towards the tent with two staffs tied tgether kicking the jaffas asses, oh yeah other than that pretty dull

Col. Shadow Quinn
November 12th, 2006, 12:27 PM
The episode's original name was supposed to be: My Big Fat Jaffa Wedding. I read it on the production notes.

squeakytoad
April 10th, 2007, 07:00 AM
The Rite of Orona... sharp knife... honeymoon eve...
Sounds painful... (Love the ominous music of that scene.)

garhkal
April 12th, 2007, 01:11 PM
Best part of the episode was Teal'c running towards the tent with two staffs tied tgether kicking the jaffas asses, oh yeah other than that pretty dull

That was cool...

Luckystrike
August 15th, 2007, 01:23 AM
Half way through watching this ep now. Although the story is ok, the acting is shocking! Jolene Blalock playing Ishta is like watching a train crash. I hope they kill her off quickly :(. Doesn't make any sense though, she was ok in Birthright....

mrscopterdoc
March 30th, 2010, 04:35 PM
Poor Jack getting beat up by a ping pong ball. :D

One of the best scenes is when Ray'ac is telling Daniel and Sam they will have the wedding at SGC. :P
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll44/mrscopterdoc/funnies/other/normal_sg1_809_0201.jpg

Gamma626
September 3rd, 2010, 09:28 AM
Just caught this one on tv. Much better than the episodes I'm currently at. I'm convinced to keep watching. Not just for the characters now.

ChulaksPrincess
October 23rd, 2010, 08:00 AM
I laughed so hard when the ping pong balls beat up Jack. Rya'c is so polite and mature. Kar'yn is so happy and pleasant. I do not like Ishta's attitude. Applause to Teal'c for standing up to her. I like Joleen Blalock though. She is a terrific actress. Ishta's love of control and domination of everyone and everything is why I dislike her. She's all wrong for Teal'c in my opinion.

maneth
November 7th, 2010, 09:50 AM
Cool ep, and I really liked seeing Ishta back again. Rya'c and Ka'ryn I could take or leave, however.

HolyAngelQueenSG-1
January 16th, 2011, 08:39 AM
I laugh at Jack away to horse. Jack hold on Sam's shoulder. I love it!!!! ^_^ Jack is very good. I remember is Rya'c married to Ka'ryan. But... Rya'c future for New Stargate Legend! :) YAY!!

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
March 13th, 2012, 03:29 PM
This one of the better episode of the first half of Season 8.

Teal'c looked so badass shooting at those Jaffa with those 2-staffs tied together.

Rya'c has really grown up since we last saw him at the beginning of Season 6 (I think). More so since we first met him back in Season 1. And he's been played by the same actor for all his appearances, which is amazing.

Tomorrow, the only non 2-part mid-season finale during the SciFi-era of SG-1.

Krisz
March 13th, 2012, 06:12 PM
I was expecting to watch an episode in wide screen yawnarama if my memory of this served me right.

It's one of the episodes I usually skip over.

Again I was pleasantly surprised to find I enjoyed watching it. There was more action and storyline in it than I remembered. I'm not a great fan of Ishta and her gang but here she fitted in nicely as an example of how differences amongst the Jaffa in how they were going to fight the Goa'uld would cause problems in their efforts to unite in their common goal.

It also has another memorable Stargate moment of Jack watching a horse wandering along a corridor in the SGC! Not forgetting Jack being annihilated by a distracted Teal'c at table tennis! :)

mathpiglet
March 14th, 2012, 03:22 PM
I was surprised they used the Gate Room for the wedding. What if a team needed to come back? Surely they have a better place!

Krisz
March 14th, 2012, 05:25 PM
I was surprised they used the Gate Room for the wedding. What if a team needed to come back? Surely they have a better place!

They could have even gone outside up on the surface, there was some nice forest up there that time Daniel took the Tollan leader up there! Perhaps standing by the Stargate gave them a familiar sight and reminder of home. The wedding planner probably had a list of scheduled gate use to work round, and off world teams were told to go to the Alpha site in case of emergency! :D :P

mathpiglet
March 15th, 2012, 10:00 AM
Excellent answer!

Jae'a
March 15th, 2012, 01:32 PM
My Livejournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/43434.html)

Love this ep. :)
I just found out that Rya'c was born in the same year as me. :P
Which makes him 19 in this ep, so yeah, too young. ;)

Lieutenant Sparrow
March 16th, 2012, 01:25 AM
Not a bad ep. Teal'c duel wielding staff weapons was pretty cool. Wouldn't have expected to see Ishta and the gang again so soon.

One thing that annoyed me was how during the ambush the Jaffa stood there for so damn long while they were getting shot at. Gah Teal'c told you to get down like 5 mins ago.

One thing I noticed in this ep is the colour of Goa'uld eye flash. Being gold. Didn't it start out as white?

gatechick
March 16th, 2012, 09:27 AM
Did anyone notice Jack was wearing sandals while playing ping pong with Teal'c? I know Jack is "The Man" and all but how would he get away with that on base?

And Tailgate Tuesdays? LOL

jelgate
March 17th, 2012, 02:24 PM
I really want to know what the Rite of Ornoc is.:P

I don't mind this one to much. I hate S8 because of its lack of being offworld. And while the writers seem reluctant to show SG1 without Jack at least I got to see some offworld action in this episode. I find myself interested in the Teal'c and Ishta stuff and not caring that much about Ry'ac's wedding. It was mostly just another plot device to fuel the tension between the two. Ultimately Teal'c is right about looking at the bigger picture but hindsight is a wonderful thing. The action through the planet was wondeful to see especially when the Moloc Jaffa aimed the missle at Moloc

Matt G
March 20th, 2012, 02:54 PM
Another ep of SG1...

1. As I said back in '04, this one was mad.

2. I did like Jack passing the ball to Bra'tac here.

3. Also forgot about Teal'c's distrust of Aron!

4. And that ping pong ball must have hurt!

Still fun! :)

Baron Of Hell
July 25th, 2013, 08:13 PM
Didn't like the wedding but thought it was ok over all. Probably one that I would skip the next time through even though I am a Tealc fan. I did like the double staff weapon bit.

Scofield
July 25th, 2013, 11:44 PM
Well, the wedding was odd, but not as odd as horses walking through the coridors. That Ishy girl or whatever her name is, maybe Ishta, was kinda annoying. Too stuborn. She thought the by killing Goa'uld, she would feel free, she didn't understand that she was already free, and what she was doing was to liberate her people. And instead of choosing the wise way, she just chooses the jaffa thing like Teal'c did wit Tanith.

Brother Freyr
August 3rd, 2013, 07:37 AM
Meh. Jaffa culture never caught my interest, and Ry'ac is like a repellent to me. I could easily skip this one on my next re-watch.

edit: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." :o

Janet Fraiser
July 31st, 2015, 05:41 PM
Finally. Season eight, you are a strange creature.

I've come to realize that I admire nearly every episode focusing on Teal'c, even though I've never considered him to be one of my favorite characters, nor do I care that much for Jaffa politics. Huh.

I wasn't even looking forward to seeing Ishta again, but I loved her confrontation with Teal'c at the SGC and their ongoing tension off-world. It was also nice seeing changes for the next generation in Rya'c and Kar'yn.

I suppose it was a relief to get back to a Goa'uld plot, even if it wasn't the main story. There also seemed to be more humor in this ep than in the last few. (Looking at you, Bra'tac!) That or my memory is just terrible.

Oh, but the horse squishing Jack and Sam to the wall as it passes, hindquarters swaying as it clops down the hall? The best scene.

Meaghan
August 4th, 2015, 04:34 PM
This episode really does remind me how much I dislike Jolene Blalock as an actress. Way too wooden, way too many hissy-fits, the feminism was was over the top IMHO.

Rya'c and Kareem (sp?) need to grow up a little....but the wedding was nice.

Not one of my favourites.

Anja
October 7th, 2015, 02:03 AM
A bit different but not boring. Rya'c is growing up, Teal'c in love (?) and General O'Neill no longer the master in his own house - gambling kids, attractive women, smelly horses - who can concentrate under such circumstances?
Nice off-world action.
Wonderful wedding scene - especially the rehearsal!

Falcon Horus
January 24th, 2020, 12:03 PM
Since these will be the only places I'll be active... until either the forum is dead and buried or I reach the end of my rewatch... whichever comes first (I predict the dead forum will come first -- if it's still in the ether, I might be the only one active -- I promise I'll turn off the lights when I leave).... the rewatch continues...

HEY NEWBIES!! IF you exist... welcome to join...

Platschu
January 27th, 2020, 08:05 AM
So you are discriminating the OLDBIES. Only newbies can join. :(

I really liked in this episode the tent when the lights have gone through after it was shot with Jaffa staff bots.

But the most memorable is that silly little motion how Moloc has tried to push away the red light on his chest.

I also loved to see animals on the set in spite of JM said they couldn't use more as they need so much legal authorization for using animals on films.

The circumcision reference was unnecessarry in the end. It is not very practical for an active, freshly married couple before the wedding night. :P

Who Knows
January 27th, 2020, 05:01 PM
Since these will be the only places I'll be active... until either the forum is dead and buried or I reach the end of my rewatch... whichever comes first (I predict the dead forum will come first -- if it's still in the ether, I might be the only one active -- I promise I'll turn off the lights when I leave).... the rewatch continues...

HEY NEWBIES!! IF you exist... welcome to join...

Looking forward to you getting back into harness & posting more jigsaws.
I feel like a Newbie sometimes, so thank you for your welcome.

Falcon Horus
January 28th, 2020, 01:37 AM
Looking forward to you getting back into harness & posting more jigsaws.
I feel like a Newbie sometimes, so thank you for your welcome.

Was gonna start again Saturday but fell asleep at 9pm and slept for 14h straight... I guess I was tired. :p

Who Knows
January 28th, 2020, 02:51 AM
Was gonna start again Saturday but fell asleep at 9pm and slept for 14h straight... I guess I was tired. :p

Young thing like you shouldn't get tired http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/swing1.gif