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Alex Rubit
June 27th, 2006, 08:12 PM
Stargate: Horizon - Season Two
"Revolution"

"Revolution"
Ep: 2.24
Release Date: June 29th, 2006
Written by Alex Rubit

Stranded aboard the Ancient biosphere, Horizon-1 seeks a way to survive while the rest of the galaxy prepares to hold their ground against the devastating Enoly attack.

Alex Rubit
June 29th, 2006, 10:03 AM
This is the moment we've all been waiting for. The 90 minute season finale has arrived.

Well, it's been a long, and in my oppinion successful season. We can look back at 24 episodes. It all began with the introduction of a new regular character and several new recurring characters, as well as a situation in Vorian space that would overshadow the entire season. Over the next couple of months you can expect the release of some special hiatus features, there'll be a poll where you can vote for your favorite Season Two episode, there'll be previews for Season Three, the release of episode titles and first info on episodes, with a little luck there'll finally be some CG images that we can release, and you can expect a special Season Three Prequel, which will be coming out around September.

Stargate: Horizon will be returning on October 26th 2006!

mentalmichael
June 29th, 2006, 12:00 PM
Ohh, first person to comment. I liked the ep - there was a nice balance between the battle sequences and the character moments, and I'm intrigued by De'sya - a suggestion that there may be other nebulan acting as humans? However, (and this may be an unfair criticism as it's only the end of season 2), I feel somewhat robbed by how easily they wiped out the sphere. I know that lots of ships were destroyed, but it seems like any time a threat emerges it's instantly wiped out - just like the season 1 finale or "Path of Revalation". I'd like to see the Enoly/Draque/Sentinals make a larger impact on our galaxy.

On the other hand, the impending civil war promises to have a huge impact, and I can't wait until October 29th to see what happens next.

SirGrimlock
June 29th, 2006, 04:32 PM
GREAT episode, much better than 223.

That is the way to end a season. The nebulan woman interacting w/ Callen and showing him the path he is meant to follow adds to the great importance both Callen & Grant has.

I look forward to the new seasons of SG1 & Atlantis, but I wait w/ the same amount of anticipation as I do for both those shows as I do for Horizon.

Other than a couple episodes I wasn't thrilled about, this season was awsome. Yes, I used and 80's word to describe it.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
June 29th, 2006, 04:41 PM
which earth ships were destroyed? I know that the Valiant and the Bellerophon survived but what about the Atlas, Prometheus, Odyessey, perseus, persephone? There were nine daedalus-type cruisers yet, why were only 7 named? I was counting the Valiant as one of them. so will we ever see marcai again and will the war with the kih'andri be the main stage for Season 3? This was a good episode glad i got to read it. if this was a real series you guys would get a huge rating. 2 thumbs way UP!!!!!!.

Alex Rubit
June 29th, 2006, 09:21 PM
Ohh, first person to comment. I liked the ep - there was a nice balance between the battle sequences and the character moments,

Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.

Getting that balance right was actually one of the big challenges. I think we haven't had any other episode that's had the order of scenes moved around as much during the writing and revision process as this one.


and I'm intrigued by De'sya - a suggestion that there may be other nebulan acting as humans?

Oh, there are, there are. There was this Sergeant Fuller guy back in "Gambit." ;)

Of course there's a chance we might eventually see additional Nebulan having taken human form.


However, (and this may be an unfair criticism as it's only the end of season 2), I feel somewhat robbed by how easily they wiped out the sphere. I know that lots of ships were destroyed, but it seems like any time a threat emerges it's instantly wiped out - just like the season 1 finale or "Path of Revalation". I'd like to see the Enoly/Draque/Sentinals make a larger impact on our galaxy.

On the other hand, the impending civil war promises to have a huge impact, and I can't wait until October 29th to see what happens next.

Yeah, I have a feeling it will make a bit of an impact. ;)

The biosphere wasn't completely destroyed, of course. I personally would find it interesting to go back to it one day, and perhaps see its inside which is of course no longer functional. I guess it depends on whether or not the right story will come along.

Alex Rubit
June 29th, 2006, 09:28 PM
which earth ships were destroyed? I know that the Valiant and the Bellerophon survived but what about the Atlas, Prometheus, Odyessey, perseus, persephone?

Hmmm. That's a good question actually. We might find out in Season Three. ;)


There were nine daedalus-type cruisers yet, why were only 7 named?

There's no reason really other than there was no point in the episode where we could have mentioned them all by name - meaning in the dialogue. If we had just named them in the script, that wouldn't have made it to the screen anyway if this were on TV.

But we'll be seeing more ships soon, and we'll be hearing some more names.


I was counting the Valiant as one of them.

The Valiant isn't a Daedalus class ship. It's... a Valiant class ship. :cameron:


so will we ever see marcai again

It's possible.


and will the war with the kih'andri be the main stage for Season 3?

Maybe.

That's really all I'm allowed to say at this point. For one, because we're still in the earliest stages of maping out the season. ;)


This was a good episode glad i got to read it. if this was a real series you guys would get a huge rating. 2 thumbs way UP!!!!!!.

Thanks a lot. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Lt. Colonel Ryu Gaia
June 29th, 2006, 09:30 PM
Dude... dude. That was incredible. Season all-time high. Four stars. And then some.

OVERALL: ****

Alex Rubit
June 29th, 2006, 09:30 PM
GREAT episode, much better than 223.

That is the way to end a season. The nebulan woman interacting w/ Callen and showing him the path he is meant to follow adds to the great importance both Callen & Grant has.

I was quite fond of that storyline too, which was one of the reasons to go with an extended length episode. If this had been a one hour episode, we would have had to cut that entire b-plot... and more.


I look forward to the new seasons of SG1 & Atlantis, but I wait w/ the same amount of anticipation as I do for both those shows as I do for Horizon.

Other than a couple episodes I wasn't thrilled about, this season was awsome. Yes, I used and 80's word to describe it.

Again, many thanks. I'm glad to hear you liked it.

Alex Rubit
June 29th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Dude... dude. That was incredible. Season all-time high. Four stars. And then some.

OVERALL: ****

I have a feeling the review for this one will be one I'll be looking forward to a lot. ;)

Lt. Colonel Ryu Gaia
June 29th, 2006, 10:41 PM
I'll be making an effort to write a lot of reviews on Sunday, because I'll finally have the whole day to myself! Lately I've been contending with the 'Personal Fitness' summer course demon. So, Revolution, I will definitely write a review for soon. Top priority. It deserves, no, it demands, to be reviewed. Amazing job, Alex, way to go.

Nik'ver
June 30th, 2006, 09:32 AM
I liked it very mutch, thanks for wrighting such an interesting series!!!!!!

SierraGulf1
June 30th, 2006, 03:53 PM
I've been away from home all week (and I shall be for every week for six more), but I'll say, since I didn't right it, that this episode was excellent and Alex did a spectacular job on it.

Here's an interesting fact: We were considering destroying the Bellerophon and killing Mackenzie Logan, but we'd like to think that they both have much, much, more potential.

Lots of death this season: Williams, Seeta, Elin, Beaumont, Vre'nan, and countless redshirts. Work on season three has already started.

My first season on Horizon was loads of fun, thanks for all the comments and criticisms, guys.

travis
June 30th, 2006, 11:00 PM
My God, what a Finale.

Man if this ep was actually filmed I think I'll be in heaven with the space battle.

What a great idea to end a battle and to start another battle for the 3 season.(that is if were going to get another in the season 3 openning)

The tone of the ep was nicly balanced.

5/4 for this ep:D
Amazing work Alex

Elite Anubis Guard
July 1st, 2006, 06:16 AM
Well..I'm not sure what I think. It has the same maring the pilot did for meBy evident influence from other films/series. Too much Star Wars! I mean, surely you could have gone about having a different way of the weapon working...but it ended up like the Death Star, and I found that somewhat disappointing. I did like the battle sequences, they were really well written too. Was slightly surprised to see F308s and the Persephone.

I liked the stuff with Callen and De'sya, if anything that'll bring him and Grant closer through friendship since they both share this interaction with the Nebulans now. What I'm happy to see is that your going to be having an active storyline revolving around mythology (albeit Vorian and it'll probably not last the entire season) but I found that was something Horizon always lacked-Mythology.

Hehe, I told you they'd take Marcai out. I feel rather sorry for Lenori (which is your intention "duh"! lol). It's somewhat saddening seeing the usual peppy and perky doctor becoming sad and worried and lost. It did have some nice character moments in this, but I feel, now more than before, that you just have too many main characters. Chris still feels redudant, Tom could do her job with the AT. And Grant's dialogue seemed iffy at places.

I did enjoy it, but I'm still not sure what I thought in the end.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
July 1st, 2006, 09:05 AM
elite's right im sorry but i think Tom and Lenori should become recurring characters even stargate atlantis doesnt even have 8 main people on their show. Sg-1 is the exception because they have now 7 with Vala becoming a main character. It should be Grant, Sivea, Chase,chris, callen. I dont how about Connor since he left for earth. So i think you need cut down a little but then again your the creator so it's none of my concern.

Alex Rubit
July 1st, 2006, 12:59 PM
I have to say, I don't agree with that. I think all of the main characters have had their moments throughout the season, something I'm personally very proud of, as that's really hard to do with eight regulars. Naturally everyone will have their own preferances about who should be mainly featured in a finale, and naturally not everyone will be satisfied. The fact that neither SG-1 nor Atlantis have eight regulars has no influence on us what so ever.

About Christine and the AT, notice the little detail that the AT is now gone. It was taken by the Enoly when the team got captured, they didn't give it back, and well... we just had one. ;)

About David... who knows whether he'll be back or not.

Now I can't agree with what you said about this being similar to anything else, EAG. I haven't seen Star Wars in ages, and it was the last thing I had in mind. Don't take me wrong, I quite like Star Wars. But not to the extent that I'd have to rip it off to write a good episode.

I've said before, and I'm quite frank about this, this subject is getting on my nerves a little lately. If I could only write good things by turning to other things and ripping them off, I'd better seriously rethink my career plans, with which I've been making some nice progress lately (surprisingly in a way). But here's not the place to be talking about that. I think people tend to think we just rip off things because of the pilot and it's "similarities." But it's also no secret that I think the pilot is the worst episode of the series. Still hoping to do a special edition re-release one of these days. Because the pilot is bad, people who just read the pilot tend to think the entire series is that way.

Anyway, if you think it's similiar to Star Wars, then that's okay. But keep in mind that SG-1's "Fallen" is even more similar. Nothing wrong with that. I just get the feeling some people think I'm constantly influenced by some kind of things. And I don't even really watch anything on TV on a regular basis, with maybe one or two exceptions. A majority of sci-fi shows I'm familiar with in that I know what they are, but I've never seen them. Just haven't got the time. ;)

Alex Rubit
July 1st, 2006, 01:15 PM
What a great idea to end a battle and to start another battle for the 3 season.(that is if were going to get another in the season 3 openning)

That brings up a good question. Just when does Season Three actually pick up? Was this a cliffhanger? Does it mean the new season will continue where this one left off (which would be the comon approach)?

However, we've stated that there will most definitely be a Season Three Prequel. Now how in the world is that supposed to work?

Of course I know the answer, as I'm already working on the Season Three premiere. I'm just curious to see what you think. :cameron:

Lt. Colonel Ryu Gaia
July 1st, 2006, 02:49 PM
I have to say, I don't agree with that. I think all of the main characters have had their moments throughout the season, something I'm personally very proud of, as that's really hard to do with eight regulars. Naturally everyone will have their own preferances about who should be mainly featured in a finale, and naturally not everyone will be satisfied. The fact that neither SG-1 nor Atlantis have eight regulars has no influence on us what so ever.

About Christine and the AT, notice the little detail that the AT is now gone. It was taken by the Enoly when the team got captured, they didn't give it back, and well... we just had one. ;)

About David... who knows whether he'll be back or not.

To be honest, in my opinion, Christine has been useless the entire season, for the most part, aside from serving as a person off of which to develop Lenori. I think that if anything, she should be the one reduced to recurring character. David, I think he has a lot of potential. Espescially considering his recent developments, I'd like to see him in a stronger role. Besides... Horizon-3 does need a leader... or at least, a member. XP


Now I can't agree with what you said about this being similar to anything else, EAG. I haven't seen Star Wars in ages, and it was the last thing I had in mind. Don't take me wrong, I quite like Star Wars. But not to the extent that I'd have to rip it off to write a good episode.

I've said before, and I'm quite frank about this, this subject is getting on my nerves a little lately. If I could only write good things by turning to other things and ripping them off, I'd better seriously rethink my career plans, with which I've been making some nice progress lately (surprisingly in a way). But here's not the place to be talking about that. I think people tend to think we just rip off things because of the pilot and it's "similarities." But it's also no secret that I think the pilot is the worst episode of the series. Still hoping to do a special edition re-release one of these days. Because the pilot is bad, people who just read the pilot tend to think the entire series is that way.


Well, the Star Wars homage being that the Biosphere greatly resembled a Death Star, espescially in its weapons satelite.

I'll be honest, it's getting on my nerves too. I like Horizon a lot, and even though a lot of it is similar to various other things, it's got an original spin on it, for the most part. Ripping things off is clearly not what any of you intend, and as for the pilot, I never read it (quite frankly, in my experience, all VS pilots that I've read have been bad [Providence, Dawn, The Heroes of Syrith]).

Back to the issue of the main cast... eight is an awful lot. You handle it well for the most part, but Christine has been a massive drag on it, in my opinion. I think that the cast should just consist of Callen, Grant, Sivea, Chase, David, Tom, and Lenori. Even make Bay'lar more prominent, he's a great character!

But part of the reason that you're able to handle such a large cast so well is because of the sheer length of the episodes. Let's be honest here, 75 to 90 pages, which is the general range of your episodes, is anywhere from an episode the length of "Threads" to the length of a short movie. Episodes of SG-1 and Atlantis are about 50 pages each, and espescially considering you're even going to be using the same software as them for the coming season, it becomes even more clear that the episodes are long. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing... I like it a lot. It really gives me something to do with my time, and it's time well spent. But still, even with all the extra descriptions as a result of this being a virtual series, you should only have upper 50s to lower 60s as your range of episode page numbers.

Well, I've managed to go on a tangent here. Still a great episode, and I can't possibly look at Season 1 now with such great stuff already accomplished that makes it pale in comparison. ^_^

Elite Anubis Guard
July 1st, 2006, 03:53 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not getting on at your. I really like Horizon, and you know that. And I don't mean to irritate you, but Biosphere-Death Star, Super Drone Beam-Whatever that thing was that destroyed planets. I mean, comeon. It was a big ass dish. Now, I really want to make it clear. I think you are a great writer and I know the similarities are not done on purpose, I think your doing great in making a new part of the Stargate universe. Look at S7s god-aweful Star Wars rip-off, everytime I see that I cringe, but that was extremely badly handled by TPTB and I think you have done well this season to detract from all the similarities, hell, I think this is the first time in this season that I have picked up on a similarity and it's the lack of them this season that caused this to just jump out at me.

And I do agree with Ryu, it seems Chris is mostly there to bounce developement off of Lenori and he's a great character but I don't see him working as well without Chris which is why you probably keep her there. But, I really feel you have too many characters to handle. Chris' job really isn't that unique anymore or needed. All you need to do is give the AT to someone who is really smart and could probably be able to do some translation stuff beside a normal job.

Now please, I am not just nit-picking, I'm obviously saying this to offer advice on ways I think your series could be improved and etc. I really do enjoy Horizon - As you know.

Also, noticed another "A Time to Stand" homage, made me smile and thought of "Counterpoint". And also, why do the Tok'ra just have cargo ships? Why not some Alkesh or Motherships of their own?

Alex Rubit
July 1st, 2006, 05:26 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not getting on at your. I really like Horizon, and you know that. And I don't mean to irritate you, but Biosphere-Death Star, Super Drone Beam-Whatever that thing was that destroyed planets. I mean, comeon. It was a big ass dish. Now, I really want to make it clear. I think you are a great writer and I know the similarities are not done on purpose, I think your doing great in making a new part of the Stargate universe. Look at S7s god-aweful Star Wars rip-off, everytime I see that I cringe, but that was extremely badly handled by TPTB and I think you have done well this season to detract from all the similarities, hell, I think this is the first time in this season that I have picked up on a similarity and it's the lack of them this season that caused this to just jump out at me.

The biosphere was established back in "The Enoly," and it has nothing to do with a Death Star. For one it's much bigger, and it's not even round.

To be honest, I don't even find half of what's out there in terms of movies and TV shows worth watching or spending money on. Not that's it's bad, I just have other, more important things to do with my time. Probably one of the reasons I haven't been to the movies in almost a year. I'm more interested in creating things of my own, as opposed to watching something else's work. Again, not that I think it's bad. I'm just too busy trying to juggle the various things I have going on. Half of which I don't even mention here. I've even had the season finales of SG-1, SGA and BSG on tape for several weeks until, finally, I got around to watching them. There's a tone of movies I'd like to see, and I always plan on going. So far... sadly... I've seen none of them. So I'm really not interested in being similiar to pretty much anything out there, and I've seen most likely much less than most of you have.

So the point of my saying is, I don't even have too much that I could rip off. :cameron:


And I do agree with Ryu, it seems Chris is mostly there to bounce developement off of Lenori and he's a great character but I don't see him working as well without Chris which is why you probably keep her there. But, I really feel you have too many characters to handle. Chris' job really isn't that unique anymore or needed. All you need to do is give the AT to someone who is really smart and could probably be able to do some translation stuff beside a normal job.

I think Christine has had some great development this season. In my oppinion, Chase is the one who's lacking character development actually. Other than in Christine's case, Chase has no backstory, etc. That is, there is a backstory, it's just not featured in the episodes as much as we'd like it to.

Don't get me wrong, there's room for a lot of improvement. I just don't agree that Christine is the character that desperately needs more development. In my honest oppinion, it's Chase. And we've talked about this among the staff. In fact, we're already working on an episode (and possible arc) for Season Three that will change that.

Also, as I've said... we don't have an AT anymore. No. That's not a joke. Last I checked, it was on the biosphere when the array detonated. We don't miss or ignore details. ;)

Alex Rubit
July 1st, 2006, 05:31 PM
But part of the reason that you're able to handle such a large cast so well is because of the sheer length of the episodes.

That also has to do with the fact that Script Smart makes scripts appear ridiculosly long, because it breaks the pages much sooner than most programs do. For S3 you can expect an average length for an episode to be something around 60 to 65 pages.

And speaking of this large cast of ours, believe it or not, we've even discussed introducing a new regular at some point. Maybe Season Four; assuming there'll be a Season Four. Our insanity has no boundries. :cameron:

Elite Anubis Guard
July 2nd, 2006, 12:58 AM
The biosphere was established back in "The Enoly," and it has nothing to do with a Death Star. For one it's much bigger, and it's not even round.

But then it wasn't a threat. Anyway, I know what your saying and I havent accused you of always ripping things off, on the contrary, I just said this is the first time this season that I noticed such a similarity.

Alex Rubit
July 2nd, 2006, 03:46 PM
But then it wasn't a threat. Anyway, I know what your saying and I havent accused you of always ripping things off, on the contrary, I just said this is the first time this season that I noticed such a similarity.

Okay, that's fair enough. I just wanted to make it clear that a similarity doesn't mean that it was intentional (if it had been we'd have included some kind of comment from one of the characters ;) ).

Anyway, it's taken a while, but the episode is now up on the website. (http://www.stargatehorizon.com) It's great to see the entire season up there; it has a feeling of completion to it. ;)

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
July 2nd, 2006, 07:24 PM
Hey 2 questions: How come we didnt get to see the asgard in Revolution Don't they us a favor or three for kicking replicator butt and in season 3 will we see maybe i dont know an Aurora-Class warship i think we could use one of those.

Alex Rubit
July 2nd, 2006, 09:30 PM
Hey 2 questions: How come we didnt get to see the asgard in Revolution Don't they us a favor or three for kicking replicator butt and in season 3 will we see maybe i dont know an Aurora-Class warship i think we could use one of those.

The answer to the first question: we talked about that, and for some time we were planning to include the Asgard. Eventually we decided against it, as it would have just made the episode even longer. The official reason for the Asgard not being there is that Earth wasn't able to reach them on time.

The answer to the second question: Not sure about the Aurora class warship; but just because it's too early to tell. So for now it'll have to be a "maybe." ;)

However, chances are pretty good that we will be seeing the Asgard in Season Three.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
July 2nd, 2006, 10:14 PM
okay then hey when you guys were first starting out there was an episode Titled "The War" it was suppose to be in the back half of season 1 i was wondering since i dont know what happened to it that could be the season 3 3-part titled well at least on of the three parts that is the opener and whatever happened to that episode i remember the enoly took it place.

mentalmichael
July 3rd, 2006, 01:53 AM
I might be wrong, but didn't you guys promise us some CG images in the script?

Alex Rubit
July 3rd, 2006, 07:22 AM
okay then hey when you guys were first starting out there was an episode Titled "The War" it was suppose to be in the back half of season 1 i was wondering since i dont know what happened to it that could be the season 3 3-part titled well at least on of the three parts that is the opener and whatever happened to that episode i remember the enoly took it place.

"The War" was a stand-alone concept that we didn't get around doing so far. Perhaps we still will be doing it one day. The story has nothing to do with what will be happening in the Season Three opening three parter.

Alex Rubit
July 3rd, 2006, 07:25 AM
I might be wrong, but didn't you guys promise us some CG images in the script?

There was supposed to be a CG image of the Enoly space station, but it didn't get finished on time unfortunately. There is some concept art, however, that we'll be releasing as soon as possible.

Elite Anubis Guard
July 7th, 2006, 07:21 AM
And in typical SG1 style, our ship gets blown up.

Naonak
October 13th, 2006, 12:49 PM
And in typical SG1 style, our ship gets blown up.
Or Atlantis, of course. ;)

Fantastic episode. Fantastic.
Loved the space-battle scene, although it was fairly similar to Return of the Jedi. (maybe it was sub-conscious)
Interesting that Sivok wanted the bio-sphere...
The ending was very good - that would be such a cool shot if it was an actual show.

Poor Lenori - it'll be interesting to see if Marcai ends up like Kardos. There could be some great scenes between them. Wasn't very keen on the cure from "Parti Pris" saving him though - seems a bit random that a cure for a disease could help him.

Alex Rubit
October 13th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Or Atlantis, of course. ;)

Fantastic episode. Fantastic.
Loved the space-battle scene, although it was fairly similar to Return of the Jedi. (maybe it was sub-conscious)

Return of the Jedi? Hmm. Sounds familiar, but I can't quite place it.

Just kidding, by the way. ;)


Interesting that Sivok wanted the bio-sphere...

That guy just can't be trusted.


The ending was very good - that would be such a cool shot if it was an actual show.

I agree. Interesting little note, we didn't know for sure how we were going to end it until about two weeks prior to the episode's release. We were considering various possiblities for what the final scene and shot could be; one would have lead to an interesting arc for Lenori in Season Three. But ultimately we decided against that, because it would have been difficult to make that completely plausible.


Poor Lenori - it'll be interesting to see if Marcai ends up like Kardos. There could be some great scenes between them. Wasn't very keen on the cure from "Parti Pris" saving him though - seems a bit random that a cure for a disease could help him.

In any other case I'd agree. However, in this case it's important to note that the virus from "Parti Pris" and Lenori without a symbiote result in the same symptoms. Basically the imune system shuts down (it's one of the symptoms of the virus, anyway). The cure is designed to act against that. So I don't think it's too far fetched that the cure would work for Lenori as well.

Glad you enjoyed the episode, by the way. I hope you'll stick around for Season Three. I dare say we've got some interesting things coming up. ;)

cheese
February 15th, 2007, 10:25 AM
Pretty good finale, the Star Wars feel has been mentioned a couple of times and I think this was different enough.

Great action in space, though at times it felt like Grant and the rest of the team were rather uninvolved since they spent such a long time in the cells.

The characterisation was good, particularly Sivok, we never can be too sure exactly what he'll do next.

The two storylines were balanced brilliantly, and really tied up the season nicely while taking us in the right direction for the next season.

One point that irked was Lenori being cured by the antidote to a virus, that really didn't make any sense whatsoever. It seemed that Tretonin, or some variant of it would have been more plausible.

A good episode though, and leaves me eager to get started on S3

Alex Rubit
February 15th, 2007, 10:34 AM
Pretty good finale, the Star Wars feel has been mentioned a couple of times and I think this was different enough.

Great action in space, though at times it felt like Grant and the rest of the team were rather uninvolved since they spent such a long time in the cells.

The characterisation was good, particularly Sivok, we never can be too sure exactly what he'll do next.

The two storylines were balanced brilliantly, and really tied up the season nicely while taking us in the right direction for the next season.

One point that irked was Lenori being cured by the antidote to a virus, that really didn't make any sense whatsoever. It seemed that Tretonin, or some variant of it would have been more plausible.

A good episode though, and leaves me eager to get started on S3

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

I do feel the same way regaring Grant and the team, to be honest. Overall I was pretty happy with how this episode turned out, but I did feel that the team could have been a little more involved. But that's okay.

Regarding the cure for the virus working to save Lenori's life, I think this was mentioned somewhere on here too. Basically the virus from "Parti Pris" had symptoms very similar to what Lenori was experiencing -- the immune system shutting down. So it was felt that it wasn't too far a stretch to have it also work in this regard.

I can't wait to see what your thoughts are on Season Three. Looks like you're almost caught up now.

Alchemist
February 19th, 2007, 05:11 AM
I think at the time, it was said that they didn't want to use Tritonin because they wanted to distance themselves from SG-1 tech as much as possible.

Personally I think Tritonin would have been better in both cases (this ep and Patri Pris) but its only really a minor detail.

Alex Rubit
February 19th, 2007, 08:22 AM
I think at the time, it was said that they didn't want to use Tritonin because they wanted to distance themselves from SG-1 tech as much as possible.

I don't think there was ever any conscious effort to distance ourselves from SG-1 technology. But it's possible I might be forgetting something here.


Personally I think Tritonin would have been better in both cases (this ep and Patri Pris) but its only really a minor detail.

If we had just used Tritonin in "Parti Pris," then there would have been no episode. Everyone would have been cured by act two. ;)

Alchemist
February 19th, 2007, 02:59 PM
If we had just used Tritonin in "Parti Pris," then there would have been no episode. Everyone would have been cured by act two. ;)

lol
I hadn't thought about it that way :)

jelgate
December 20th, 2007, 10:57 AM
Jelgate’s Two CentsI just might have to cry after watching this episode. I think this has been the best episode to date. Let’s start with Callen story since it didn’t have much to do with the Enloy. When isn’t the Nebulan mysterious? It seems like they want the civil war to happen. I wonder what the bigger picture is they see. Whatever it is, I have a feeling that the book is going to have a lasting impact on S3. The whole Enloy biosphere was spectacular. I thought that Grant’s team was going to be captured but I did not think that David and Sivok were going to be captured also. You think that shooting the power core would have more of a lasting impact on him physically.?* The space battle between the Milky Way fleet and the Enloy sounded spectacular. We were holding our own until the Enloy decided to fire the biosphere’s main weapon.?* Someone said that they thought the solution to destroying the biosphere was rushed. I respectfully disagree. It makes sense that a “super weapon” would use a lot of energy and would require time to recharge. Adding a collision with a ship would severely weaken the weapons system. The biosphere is without a doubt a powerful weapons but it is not invincible.?* For once the day was saved without the Horizon crew. It was up the fleet to save the crew and the galaxy.?* I should back up and talk about characters for a second. This has easily brought a change to the Lenori character. He was physically and mentally abused.?* He must feel a little alone without his symbiont. I hope that is explored more in S3. I am going to miss you David.:(?* I hope Gorlon is not killed off for good because I thought he made an excellent nemesis for Grant. Even though the Enloy are weakened there is a greater threat for the civil war is in full swing. I wonder if the Horizon crew will have to be disbanded because Earth will not get involved in the Vorian war. I am curious to see how the war will develop in the next season, especially considering that the Kir’Adhari are posed to attack Horizon. 5/5 (I don’t give 5/5 that often:D) Now that I done with season two I have to say it has been enjoyable. There have been some bad episodes (Connection), but on the whole it has been an interesting season. My biggest compliant is that the Draque were seriously downgraded this season. See you in the season 3 folder. :)

Alex Rubit
December 20th, 2007, 07:33 PM
Jelgate’s Two CentsI just might have to cry after watching this episode. I think this has been the best episode to date.

Thanks. I'm really glad you enjoyed the episode and Season Two as a whole. :)