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GateWorld
April 30th, 2004, 01:07 PM
<DIV ALIGN=CENTER><TABLE WIDTH=420 CELLPADDING=0 CELLSPACING=0 BORDER=0><TR><TD><DIV ALIGN=LEFT><FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE=2 COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#666666">COLUMN:</FONT><BR><FONT SIZE=4><A HREF="http://www.gateworld.net/articles/columns/gatewatch/gw09.shtml" STYLE="text-decoration: none">LET'S STOP SPOILING <I>STARGATE</I></A></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=2><I>An Open Letter to Stargate Fans</I></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=1>BY - Darren Sumner</FONT>
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Spoilers may help build excitement in the Stargate fan community, but <I>too many</I> spoilers aren't good for the show or the fans. Here's a modest proposal.

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Thor
May 1st, 2004, 04:26 AM
I really liked this article and I fully agree with Darren. We from Stargate-Project will proceed like Gateworld and we wont' give away the ending anymore.

SeaBee
May 1st, 2004, 05:33 AM
I don't really have a problem with forum posted spoilers. On the whole I have found it fairly easy to avoid them.
My big beef is with the magazine interviews with stars or production staff that carry ep spoilers tucked away in the text.

David
May 1st, 2004, 09:39 AM
My big beef is with the magazine interviews with stars or production staff that carry ep spoilers tucked away in the text.

Hmm.. a good reason to write MGM before TVZone walks through the door again ;)

bcmilco
May 1st, 2004, 10:36 AM
I love reading spoilers, but I don't like to know how the episode ends. I also don't like a blow by blow of what occurs in every scene it takes away from my enjoyment because I end up going "oh look" there's that scene, instead of paying attention to the show. My favorite kinds of spoilers are the ones we get at GateWorld and the like :)

Nolamom
May 1st, 2004, 03:24 PM
That's the best thing about the 'spoilers' on Gateworld - they just tease instead of giving away the entire story. More than a tv guide episode synopsis, but waaaay less than a transcript. I like that.
Nola

Norlioness
May 2nd, 2004, 02:30 PM
When I became an SG1 fan, I had only seen Seasons 1&2. At the same time, Scifi was already showing S6. To play catch up, I purchased DVDs, but was still missing S5 and parts of S6. So, I turned to spoilers. Reading spoilers in this case, has helped me catch up with character developments and events.

However, I refused to read spoilers of S7 episodes. I want to be entertained and it has been very satisfying. Being teased by trailers and publicity pictures are just fine with me.

Sometimes, when you read spoilers, you also read fans' opinions and this can colour the way you see the episode too.

Darren, I think it's great that Gateworld will honour the studio's concerns about spoilers. Way to go! :)

bcmilco
May 2nd, 2004, 02:36 PM
Sometimes, when you read spoilers, you also read fans' opinions and this can colour the way you see the episode too.

Yes, I got to the point that when the UK was getting the episodes first I would avoid the forums between the time the episode started and the time I finished downloand and watching it :D Otherwise it was a case of Too Much Information AND other peoples' opinions both of which I found took away from my enjoyment of the episode.

Otherwise I love spoilers like the ones on GateWorld and look forward to them all the time. :)

*runs off to refresh the GateWorld homepage*

Ace
May 2nd, 2004, 02:49 PM
I like to know alot about the upcoming Stargate episodes and to be honest I wouldn't know where to stop reading if somebody gave me the whole transcript.

So I like the fact that Gateworld tells a good portion of the episode but stops at the third or fourth Act and doesn't not spoil the ending! It has kept me from being dissappointed on many episodes.

I'm glad Gateworld has adopted this policy, and I myself have tried not to venture out to other websites in search of more information. Despide how hard it is not too, I think I'm doing a pretty good job. :)

Ace

David
May 2nd, 2004, 02:53 PM
I like to know alot about the upcoming Stargate episodes and to be honest I wouldn't know where to stop reading if somebody gave me the whole transcript.

I know. It's extremely difficult. As soon as new spoilers are released on GW I'm drawn to it like stink on a monkey.

The only time I regretted it was the Lost City information about 8 months before the shows came out.

ShadowMaat
May 2nd, 2004, 03:20 PM
Spoilers have saved me from watching some truly wretched eps, so I'm all for 'em. :p

xathras
May 2nd, 2004, 03:26 PM
I'm ordinarily a spoiler junkie, but after some of the eps we got in s7, I'm avoiding s8 and atlantis spoilers in the interests of postponing disapointment, or maybe being pleasantly surprised.

David
May 2nd, 2004, 04:44 PM
I got disconnected from the Showtime channel after "Chain Reaction" aired from Season Four. We got it back when Showtime aired their Season 5 marathon, the first ten episodes of the season. I had heard nothing on them (before I discovered GW) and watched from Enemies to Wormhole X-Treme all in one day, with one shock after another. I've never had a better Stargate experience!

SaharaGate
May 3rd, 2004, 03:25 AM
I don't really have a problem with forum posted spoilers. On the whole I have found it fairly easy to avoid them.
My big beef is with the magazine interviews with stars or production staff that carry ep spoilers tucked away in the text.

I am soooo with you here. I try to avoid spoilers as much as possible. I think about 70% of the spoilers I didn't manage to avoid came from Magazine articles, about 25% came from the Gateworld forum and 5% through my own stupidity, giving in to curiousity and thinking I could 'skim' something without getting too spoiled. :rolleyes:

The magazines are THE WORST. And when you think about it, that goes back not only to the journalist (they will print any exclusive info they can get their hands on. Trust me, I'm one of them ;) ) but the actor/pruducer/writer or whoever is being interviewed. As much as I love them all, sometimes they can be a little careless with the spoilers. Just because something has already been 'leaked' online doesn't mean everybody has read it...

Although I do believe many of them try. Michael Shanks and Amanda Tapping I know give spoiler warnings in chats for example.

Bacardi
May 3rd, 2004, 08:51 AM
i love reading spoilers, but i hate myself after i have watched the show in question. it does have a tendency to ruin things, but i cant help it.

Indiana
May 7th, 2004, 06:12 AM
That's the best thing about the 'spoilers' on Gateworld - they just tease instead of giving away the entire story. More than a tv guide episode synopsis, but waaaay less than a transcript. I like that.
Nola

Are you serious? :rolleyes: I know i should watch what I'm saying on here, but sorry guys, you give away too many spoilers in your articles. i've not read any season eight or atlantis stuff yet because i don't want to be spoiled so for all I know GW has changed their ways.

Darren
May 9th, 2004, 05:30 PM
If you don't want to be spoiled at all -- as in know much of anything of than the very basics (episode title, 1-sentence plot), then yep, you'll do well to stay away from spoiler reports in those marked news stories and the episode guide for unaired episodes. GateWorld definitely still publishes spoilers!

bcmilco
May 9th, 2004, 09:01 PM
If you don't want to be spoiled at all -- as in know much of anything of than the very basics (episode title, 1-sentence plot), then yep, you'll do well to stay away from spoiler reports in those marked news stories and the episode guide for unaired episodes. GateWorld definitely still publishes spoilers!

Yes, and I thank you for it :D

corey2002
June 12th, 2004, 02:32 PM
i feel that spolers should stay because they get people excited for the upcoming episodes ;)

David
June 12th, 2004, 03:14 PM
The option to have spoilers is very important. There are many Stargate websites that publish the spoilers on their very front page, and the wandering eye is simply doomed to read them.

Anubis
June 13th, 2004, 12:54 AM
There should always be the option to read spoilers because some do give away the entire story. GateWorld, your dose of spoilers are fine, you outline the episode and I think that is really enough, you do a wonderful job. However, some sources do try to stir the reports and give things away in too much depth. This is too much. It rurins the episode and you could quite misjudge

ShadowMaat
June 13th, 2004, 05:46 AM
GateWorld, your dose of spoilers are fine, you outline the episode and I think that is really enough, you do a wonderful job.
Ah, but for some people, even "Carter is sporting a new hairdo" would be considered a horrible spoiler that would utterly ruin any viewing of an ep, so it's always nice to have an option for any spoilers rather than have them simply thrust upon you.

Probably an extreme example, but I'm sure it happens. Can't say I've ever had any problems with Gateworld's spoiler techniques, myself, but I usually don't mind them anyway.

David
June 13th, 2004, 06:56 AM
Certainly one man's spoiler is another man's "eeh, whatever." But there are bigger things, like the ending of Lost City, etc, that applies to the entire arc and scope of the television series. But I get you.

ShadowMaat
June 13th, 2004, 07:06 AM
Personally, I think the biggest danger comes from fans themselves, not from Gateworld. GW is good about warnings and such, but some fans will read something (either here or elsewhere) and go blabbing it on the board with no warnings or anything and then act completely shocked when people complain. That's where the definition of "spoiling" gets particularly sticky. "Oh, I had no idea that was a spoiler!" or "Gosh, but I was just speculating based on what I read!" or even, "I thought EVERYONE knew that!"

The fans are the biggest danger of them all. :P

David
June 13th, 2004, 07:14 AM
That's the thing about finding a bit of information, be it Stargate or anything- you get so wound up in excitement that you have to go on a hill somewhere and preach the news! Except in Stargate's case it's a message board or SG-related chat.

That's why it's always great to have a Stargate pen-pal or buddy that you can share all of your spoilery information with, if that's your thing. By necessity or design Darren is my Stargate secret-trader, and he's great to have around. "Oh, did you hear ---- ?" "NO!" or "Yeah, I've known that forever!"

You don't have one? GET one! Honestly.

What is that line from?

Apepi
June 13th, 2004, 09:35 AM
I might be wrong,it does'nt happen too often(lol) but if you dont like spoilers,then hell,dont click on them.This site(and others) plasters "BEWARE SPOILERS" all over the links,so there is the first clue for you.And as was just said,all us stargate fans cant wait to find out just a little more,cause hell,we all have pretty good imaginations and get very excited when we have sussed something out for the next season.I say keep the spoilers,and am a Goa'uld Lord,so Kneel before me.Hows that for an imagination.Its down to the individual if you dont like it,dont look at it.Gateworld is doing a great job keeping us up to date,let them get on with it.Kel mak tak fools :eek:

ShadowMaat
June 13th, 2004, 10:08 AM
I might be wrong,it does'nt happen too often(lol) but if you dont like spoilers,then hell,dont click on them.
That's all well and good on the Gateworld site itself, but the mods can't maintain CONSTANT vigilance on the boards which is, IMO, the main source of trouble. There was a message posted in the S8 section the other day wich contained what could have been a HUGE honkin' spoiler right in the subject line! It has since been changed, but for a while it was right there for all the world to see- whether you wanted to know or not. And people constantly slip up in replies and whatnot. They'll be going on about something and say, "Now that Siler's dead..." or "When they realize that Chevron Guy's a goa'uld..." or even "I can't believe Sam is gonna marry Pete!"

The Mods are good about inserting spoiler space when they see a need, but they can't see EVERYTHING and they can't stop spoilers from happening BEFORE they get around to adding space.

Apepi
June 13th, 2004, 10:31 AM
Fair point,but when you look at the forum for season8 it says above it before you click on it"beware of spoilers", its about season8 how can you go on season8 and not expect anyone to post what they know about it,i really am having trouble understanding it,ITS SEASON8,IT HAS'NT COME OUT YET,THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.later days :eek:

ShadowMaat
June 13th, 2004, 11:28 AM
If the spoiler is in the subject line and if the thread is the most recently viewed, it will still appear on the main page and unless you're exceptionally good at NOT reading an accidental line of text on a page, it's still possible to be spoiled.

Besides, you're assuming that all these spoilers are happening in the S8 folder. I'm thinking of instances where it crops up in OTHER areas- General Discussion among them, where there IS not spoiler warning in the descriptive line, nor should there have to be.

But I digress. You see it your way, I see it mine. Point is, spoilers still happen and some people will always be accidentally spoiled no matter how good the originating website is.

David
June 13th, 2004, 02:36 PM
Nice thing about the seasonal forum rooms is you can blab all you want about spoilers, because of the warnings at Forum Home- but Shadow's right, you still can't label them in the titles of threads, since a lot of people, including myself, look at blocks of brand new threads when I log on. The compiler that drives the threads don't have any regard for which folder they came from. They just lump 'em together.

Anubis
June 13th, 2004, 11:29 PM
I agree with Shadow and David, spoilers can't be kept from leaking all the time over the boards. GateWorld do a great job at giving away too much without warning