They invented gates that can tell the difference between metal and organic matter and if the matter wants to travel through the gate or not, and yet the gate doesn’t understand that organic people travel in metal ships and that those ships can mess up. If the Ancients were fighting the Wraith and using ships to travel through the gate you’d think they would foresee the events of “38 minutes”. Just write a new subroutine that if the ship gets stuck but the people walk through the event horizon then override the rules and spit the people out the other side of the gate. And good move by the Ancients to have an auto-pilot that doesn’t warn the passengers when it doesn’t function properly.
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Originally posted by rocket4477When designing the gate, I don't think they had travel by ship in mind. Besides, how often is a problem like the one in "Thirty-Eight Minutes" gonna come up??"I've been called ugly, pug-ugly, fugly, pug-fugly, but never ugly-ugly." --- Moe Szyslak
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Originally posted by airdishIf you are fighting a war and using the jumpers for gate travel, I would think all the time. It happened to the earth people the second time they were fighting the Wraith in space. Now maybe it is tough to update the gates for something like this. But if it is as easy as the planetary drift stuff then I don't see why they didn't.
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Originally posted by rocket4477The Ancients have a better understanding than we do about how the Puddle Jumper works. They probably would have noticed the problem and retracted the pods manually before entering the gate."I've been called ugly, pug-ugly, fugly, pug-fugly, but never ugly-ugly." --- Moe Szyslak
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Originally posted by rocket4477It was a malfunction, something was wrong, the ship DID think that the pods were retracted."I've been called ugly, pug-ugly, fugly, pug-fugly, but never ugly-ugly." --- Moe Szyslak
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Originally posted by airdishWe don't know that. It could just be a design flaw. IF the ship did think the wings were in then there should be a mechanical sensor as well. Maybe the Ancients weren't able to think of stuff in simple terms like that (ala the Asgard)
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Originally posted by rocket4477Maybe there was a mechanical sensor and that failed as well. Remember, puddle jumpers were around before them met the Wraith, so they probably never expected to use them in combat."I've been called ugly, pug-ugly, fugly, pug-fugly, but never ugly-ugly." --- Moe Szyslak
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here is what the Ancients would do in this situation:
1. They would fix the ship, in a heartbeat.
2. They would twiddle their thumbs, have a nice conversation. Put on their portable space suit, and abandon the ship.
here is what they would not do:
Panic like a wild animal, bickering amongst themselves and mess with the ship hoping that 1 in 1000 chance it will work.
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You know, whenever you watch a show based on fiction, you've got to leave reality aside, and suspend the nit-picking, or you fail to get the point of the show, and that's entertainment.
Writer's are good, but they aren't perfect, and if they followed every single rule of common sense, there would be hardly any shows to watch!
And if we really want to talk about implausible, watch Spiderman 2, the ending was ridiculous.
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Immerging a fricking STAR in a river and that solves everything? Uh...I don't think so!
Some liberties are A LOT worse than others. I mentioned this one plot hole to dh last night. I figured there would be a warning that they engine pods hadn't retracted. DH pointed out there may well have been a warning, they just didn't know enough to realize what it was. Good point. The two people flying we don't know if they've got the gene or if they know much about a puddle jumper. It's clear by Ford's instructions that they aren't used to piloting one.sigpic
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Originally posted by airdishThey invented gates that can tell the difference between metal and organic matter and if the matter wants to travel through the gate or not, and yet the gate doesn’t understand that organic people travel in metal ships and that those ships can mess up. If the Ancients were fighting the Wraith and using ships to travel through the gate you’d think they would foresee the events of “38 minutes”. Just write a new subroutine that if the ship gets stuck but the people walk through the event horizon then override the rules and spit the people out the other side of the gate. And good move by the Ancients to have an auto-pilot that doesn’t warn the passengers when it doesn’t function properly.
Maybe the guys that were piloting didn't have the gene, and if it was Shepard piloting he would have gotten some kind of mental warning.
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