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    Powering Atlantis: So much energy is right at their fingertips!

    As it stands, it seems that the only things they want to consider running Atlantis on are naquadah generators and ZPMs. While this provides a lot of long-term energy, they won't last forever. It always seemed to me rather crazy that they weren't looking for alternate sources of power.

    While perhaps alternative energy sources wouldn't power up the more energy-intensive devices on a regular basis, they should be able to get enough energy to keep the lights going in the habited areas - not to mention that if they were constantly charging, they might have the energy to fire off one of those energy-intensive devices now and then in an emergency.

    Wind power - Atlantis is on the ocean; there is nothing to slow down the wind. Thus wind power should be a viable source of energy.

    Windmills, being surfaceside and powered by wind (a practically given constant), would probably be fairly easy and practical to use and maintain - though the killer hurricanes might be a problem here. They might could be designed so as to be laid down (or a more sci-fi solution - retracted) in case winds picked up too much speed.

    Now - just imagine - pressing a button and watching little windmills pop out of the city in various locations. Ah, if that doesn't warm your heart and make ya smile...

    Hydroelectric power - Atlantis is on the ocean! Surely there are currents that could be constantly turning turbines placed under the water!

    Hydroelectric power, if designed with the proper type of turbines, probably wouldn't require too much fuss after it was finally installed. However, construction and maintenance would be a pain in the rear, as it would have to be done underwater.

    Solar power - Atlantis seems to be sunny most of the time. Overall, it'd probably be a fairly safe bet. While Atlantis likely has cloudy spells, a flat solar array wouldn't be as likely to be damaged in a hurricane as a windmill.

    Any thoughts on this? Additions you'd like to make? Errors I've made that should be pointed out?
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    #2
    maybe the ancients at some point realized that those energy sources didn't help that much so they didn't use them on Atlantis.

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      #3
      There's just not enough energy! We have wind, solar, hydro-electric and hydrogen fusion power on Earth but the most powerful we have at the moment is nuclear. Naquada generator has a hundred fold nuclear powering capacity and not even that comes close to powering Atlantis.
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        #4
        It would also take people who know how to construct those things, the materials to construct it and figuring out how to wire it all into the powergrid without blowing out/up something in the process. More ZPM's or another singularly powerful source of energy just seems to be the most viable option.

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          #5
          While ZPMs are certainly the most efficient, it's seemed to me that they've been in rather short supply. What I'm thinking of is more of a stop-gap measure to aid in powering what they are using.

          I'm assuming here that the Ancients didn't go around using lightbulbs that took approximately 12,499 watts to power.
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            #6
            Wind power costs almost as much as it delivers.

            A windmill is only effective after 7 years, before that, it costed more energy for you to place them then it will provide, same goes for solar

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              #7
              Something the size of atlantis (fully occupied) would consume around 1000 MW. They need to stick with zpms versus building a power plant.

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                #8
                They should have at least a couple hundred Mk. II Naquadah Generators on atlantis. Same goes for the daedalus. It'll have a more powerfull shield then too.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by freyr's mother
                  They should have at least a couple hundred Mk. II Naquadah Generators on atlantis. Same goes for the daedalus. It'll have a more powerfull shield then too.
                  Well we don't know how much a naquada generator costs so there might be a budgetary conern...
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                    #10
                    I wonder how many of those small alkaline batteries would take to power up Atlantis for a day or so? Is there a math wiz here?
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by _Anubis
                      I wonder how many of those small alkaline batteries would take to power up Atlantis for a day or so? Is there a math wiz here?
                      That depends on the voltage Atlantis needs.
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                        #12
                        Just did some research. From what I know a single naquada generator is capable of producing energy a hundred times that of a nuclear power generator.
                        Now a typical nuclear power plant can produce 1 giga watt of electricty. Altantis is powered by five naquada generators so 1 naquada generator = 1 gigawatt x 100 = 100billion watts.

                        5 generators = 500billion watts = 500billion AA alkaline batteries.
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                          #13
                          If they would take several naquada generators, and run them in series, it might supply enough power, or if they ran a few generators in parallel, it might be enough to sustain another system.

                          From what I can tell, and from real world physics, 1 ZPM theoretically could power everything at once, but the city would put such a huge drain (draw) on that one ZPM, it would go dead in no time at all. Thats why there were 3 that was needed to keep things running. The other two ZPM's are providing more amperage (support) keeping all 3 ZPM's working.

                          In simple terms, 1 ZPM could power everything, but it would be too hard on 1 ZPM alone, so 2 other ZPM's are needed to help carry the load (energy demand) of all the systems. Also running 3 in parallel increases the life of the energy source as long as the draw it not greater than the rated support of all 3.

                          Hope that made sense.

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                            #14
                            In simple terms, 1 ZPM could power everything, but it would be too hard on 1 ZPM alone, so 2 other ZPM's are needed to help carry the load (energy demand) of all the systems. Also running 3 in parallel increases the life of the energy source as long as the draw it not greater than the rated support of all 3.
                            So, Janus's brilliant plan was all a bunch of nonsense, then?

                            Okay, just askin' here, is there any good reason, considering how much power real-life electronics and whatnot work, that with as much as the city as is active and with as many people as are in the city (barely enough to populate a small town), that they would need the amount of power provided by naquadah generators to keep things running?

                            I would think that the Ancients, being as brilliant as they were, might've come up with a few ways to conserve power. (But then again, I also suspect half the time that, quite frankly, they weren't that bright at all in a lot of ways.)
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Syera
                              So, Janus's brilliant plan was all a bunch of nonsense, then?

                              What plan of Janus' are you referring too?

                              The ancients knew that 1 ZPM would not last long powering their city, so they came up with the way to run 3 of them in parallel, (according to Janus) therefore providing enough holding strength, (amps) to power everything without draining all the power.

                              Now we know the naquada generators are not powerful enough to run the shield, but if you take a few of them, and run them in series, it should produce more voltage, or if you run them in parallel, they will not produce more power, but they can sustain a power hungry system.

                              Im only going by real world power sources. ZPM's could in fact be different.

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