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lilslim142000
May 3rd, 2006, 03:26 AM
Since we all read the spoilers for "The Return" 2 parter eipisode it says that the Asurans probe Wollsey and Jack's minds but i read in at the STargate sg-1 soulutions website that they knew that the Asurans were going to probe them so they gave the Asurans false information what information will they give the Asurans? I thin k they will jsut give them information about the Ori? How will the Ori deal with the Asurans? I bet a couple of Asurans will try to go to the Milky Way galaxy and the Ori/Alterans galaxy.

IcyNeko
May 3rd, 2006, 08:34 AM
OMG HAE! Let's talk about a situation that may be unlikely, featuring a villain that hasn't appeared in an episode yet!

GateMan2000
May 3rd, 2006, 08:46 AM
Give the noobs a break! They are just getting out the big "WHAT IF" scenarios out of their system even though they will never apply to the shows.

nemisis
May 3rd, 2006, 09:07 AM
yer give im a break it a good idea

IcyNeko
May 3rd, 2006, 09:13 AM
yer give im a break it a good idea

I'm sorry, I couldn't make out what you were saying there, nemisis.

Okay, assuming we had a viable tie between SG-1 and Atlantis regarding the Asuran incursion...
It is unlikely that the Asurans would battle the Ori. If they have access to an Ancient Database, they would know that the enemy of the Ancients were the Ori. Since the Asurans hate only the Ancients, I doubt they would attempt to go to the Milky Way to exact their revenge, especially if they probe Weir and Woolsey's mind. They'd know that the Ancients are long dead.

Besides, according to the spoilers, they're attacking atlantis with hopes of destroying the city of the ancients . This means they'd destroy their only gateway back to the Milky Way (Aside from their cityship). But in order to come to the Milky Way, they'd have to have serious grudges against the humans, not the ancients.

Assuming that they do want to go kill the Ori, they'd have a hard time doing so. The Priors seem to have telekinetic powers and are able to keep the Jaffa at bay if they wanted to. The Asurans couldn't get close. Even if they did have a means to fight the Priors, they'd have to get to a Prior in the first place: Ship battle. Sure, we'd find out who would win... City Ship or an Ori Dreadnaught. But all that is highly speculative.

If the Asurans really wanted to do battle with their oppressors... they should focus on ascending and fight the ancients on the other planes of existence.

The Ori
May 3rd, 2006, 10:04 AM
True but still its a good idea but if the asurans can probe minds how does false information be given out?

IcyNeko
May 3rd, 2006, 10:13 AM
If you had a strong will, you could keep the truth hidden, and only allow them access to the false information.

The Ori
May 3rd, 2006, 10:14 AM
Doubt that woolsey will have that, maybe O'Neill though.

RepliHawk
May 3rd, 2006, 10:50 AM
I dought the people of atlantis will never have to deal with the ori because stargate atlantis wants to be unique and and they want to prove they can last on their own without that much help getting ideas form stargate sg1.Thats just my idea.

IcyNeko
May 3rd, 2006, 10:52 AM
They need a new writing staff to prevent that. ;)

I would volunteer, but no one's asking. ;)

Eoin
May 3rd, 2006, 11:00 AM
IMO its highly unlikely that the asurans will battle the ori...but I for one would love to see a AU ep where this does happen, because it could possibly be the best battle in SG1 :D (sorry, my addiction to battles just took over me there for a sec, but im now normal again)

Anywho... I'd say that if the asurans decided to go battle the ori, they could put up a heck of a fight and even win, but again thats just imo :)

RepliHawk
May 3rd, 2006, 11:04 AM
That would be a great battle to watch between the Asurans and the Ori.but who would win?

IcyNeko
May 3rd, 2006, 11:22 AM
A turkey sandwich. It is both awesome.. and delicious.

NakedJehutyV2
May 3rd, 2006, 12:01 PM
now that's something i need to see. alteran vs ori ships

IcyNeko
May 3rd, 2006, 12:36 PM
We have yet to see an Alteran warship.

nemisis
May 3rd, 2006, 12:45 PM
We have yet to see an Alteran warship.

ye we have weve seen two the aruoa and the oriean

IcyNeko
May 3rd, 2006, 12:49 PM
aruoa and the oriean
There's no such ships aruoa and the oriean. There's Aurora and Orion. Good job there, chap.

Those are light cruisers, at best. Those aren't likely the "Most powerful ships" that the hologram talked about. THOSE would be the ships that we'd be seeing in battle against the Ori.

LORD MONK
May 3rd, 2006, 08:32 PM
When they probe O'Niells head they find out that we are an Off-Shoot of the Ancients and they created us through the Weapon on Dakaa and they start thinking of us as the the brothers and sisters and we too are a victim of the Ancients doing like the Wraith in the PG.

Now lets take it to SG-1. In the final battle with the Ori. The one that turns the tide. The Back us up with a couple of THEIR war ships that just destroys them like they did us.


And come on people. It's fun to talk about. Even if it will never happen.

Darkstar
May 4th, 2006, 06:30 AM
Asurans will kick ass no matter what part of the universe, pray you get the chance to have you so called "turkey sanwhich" and eat it in the seriously unlikely event that the Asuran's go after the Ori in some random fight:D




p.s Here's to the 200th episode [_]>!!!!!!!:D

GateMan2000
May 4th, 2006, 06:32 AM
Well...Not by choice...whos to say that the SGA team could trick them to believe that they are kin to the ancients. They may see them as a threat and go take them out lol.

LORD MONK
May 4th, 2006, 09:00 PM
I like the Kin thing. It would meaning to their evelution that our Replicators didn't get to achieve. Family. Outside of replication of ones existance and realizing your maker made more and THAT is kin.

NakedJehutyV2
May 4th, 2006, 10:41 PM
hopefully they can turn the asurans so they can help own the ori and the wraith.

or turn them to help against the former tenants of pegasus

The Observer
December 22nd, 2006, 06:24 AM
I thought they were the same species just half psycho religious fanatics and half scientist

Plus everyone saw what the Orion with one salvo of Drones did to that hiveship, we also know Drones melt their way through hull and armour straight to critical systems. Even through shields the fact that the Ori drove the Ancients from their home galaxy is because they were scientists and we all know how insanely bound to Origin their soldiers are.

Who thought that Priors would be a deciding factor what's to say the Ori ever see an Asuran in ground combat why not just obliterate their forces planet or space side using ships, I know I would

FallenAngelII
December 22nd, 2006, 06:35 AM
We don't know where the Ori galaxy is. We can't sent the Asurans there.

And people reaaaaally need to stop making "Ori vs." threads. The Ori are Ascended beings. They cannot be killed (other than with Merlin's weapon and maybe even then they won't die, they'll just be incapacitated).

The Ori will always win.

PG15
December 22nd, 2006, 11:05 AM
Unless its "vs. Q". :p

StargateWatcher
April 30th, 2010, 02:03 PM
I'm sorry, I couldn't make out what you were saying there, nemisis.

Okay, assuming we had a viable tie between SG-1 and Atlantis regarding the Asuran incursion...
It is unlikely that the Asurans would battle the Ori. If they have access to an Ancient Database, they would know that the enemy of the Ancients were the Ori. Since the Asurans hate only the Ancients, I doubt they would attempt to go to the Milky Way to exact their revenge, especially if they probe Weir and Woolsey's mind. They'd know that the Ancients are long dead.

Though if some ascend (Liam's peace-minded faction), they'll realize the seriousness of the Ori threat, and might go thinking differently, that they have a responsibility to fight the Ori if they're strong enough. If they tend to think differently from the Ancients, they might be more interventionist.



Assuming that they do want to go kill the Ori, they'd have a hard time doing so. The Priors seem to have telekinetic powers and are able to keep the Jaffa at bay if they wanted to. The Asurans couldn't get close. Even if they did have a means to fight the Priors, they'd have to get to a Prior in the first place: Ship battle. Sure, we'd find out who would win... City Ship or an Ori Dreadnaught. But all that is highly speculative.

Asurans also have telekinetic powers, at least Oberoth did, and VERY powerful too.




[QUOTE=Eoin;5240521]IMO its highly unlikely that the asurans will battle the ori...but I for one would love to see a AU ep where this does happen, because it could possibly be the best battle in SG1 :D (sorry, my addiction to battles just took over me there for a sec, but im now normal again)

Anywho... I'd say that if the asurans decided to go battle the ori, they could put up a heck of a fight and even win, but again thats just imo :)
at least on the corporeal plain




There's no such ships aruoa and the oriean. There's Aurora and Orion. Good job there, chap.

Those are light cruisers, at best. Those aren't likely the "Most powerful ships" that the hologram talked about. THOSE would be the ships that we'd be seeing in battle against the Ori.
If so, I'd love to see the larger classes of warships.

[QUOTE=The Observer;6123315]I thought they were the same species just half psycho religious fanatics and half scientist
you are correct; but we don't know if the Ori evolved slightly differently because they acted differently.



And people reaaaaally need to stop making "Ori vs." threads. The Ori are Ascended beings. They cannot be killed (other than with Merlin's weapon and maybe even then they won't die, they'll just be incapacitated).

not quite; the weapon put them out of existence