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<FONT SIZE=4 COLOR="#0066BF"><B>EVOLUTION, PART 2</B></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 712</FONT>
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O'Neill seeks help from a former comrade to rescue Daniel and Dr. Lee, who have been kidnapped in Central America. Carter, Teal'c and Jacob infiltrate Anubis' super-soldier facility.

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KorbenDirewolf
May 10th, 2004, 12:04 PM
I've just got to say this.. Evolution Part 2 is the weakest 2nd part of any two-part episode I have ever seen. It brought up more new unknowns than it dealt with.

stargate barbie
May 10th, 2004, 01:58 PM
I've just got to say this.. Evolution Part 2 is the weakest 2nd part of any two-part episode I have ever seen. It brought up more new unknowns than it dealt with.

which i think may have been the point. to extend the arc of the series.

personally i enjoyed it very much. loved the little attack of the clones "homage". special effects were superb as usual. acting, directing, all fantastic. and burke was fun.

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Elwe Singollo
June 20th, 2004, 10:47 AM
When they blew up the queen, even though it may have slowed them down, what if they took the queen with them?

Anubis
June 20th, 2004, 12:56 PM
I don't think they'd of done this. Just quicker to blow it up

Elwe Singollo
June 20th, 2004, 01:03 PM
Well of course it would be quicker:D , i'm saying, what if their intentions were not to kill it, and bring it with them, although it may have been completely irrelavent, but to find out who the queen was.

bcmilco
June 20th, 2004, 01:26 PM
The only way to find out who the queen was would be to implant her/it in someone... are you volunteering? :D

Otherwise there is no reason to bring it with them she'd be a potential danger to carry uncontained and it would be too cumbersome to take the whole tank with them.

I just don't see any benifit in trying to take the queen with them. ;)

Elwe Singollo
June 20th, 2004, 01:37 PM
The only way to find out who the queen was would be to implant her/it in someone... are you volunteering? :D

Otherwise there is no reason to bring it with them she'd be a potential danger to carry uncontained and it would be too cumbersome to take the whole tank with them.

I just don't see any benifit in trying to take the queen with them. ;)Oh yes, lets put the 'unknown' queen inside... a kidnapped, restraint rogue NID agent :) But your right, i now see there wouldn't be a reason to, unless it would help the research for Tritonan (sp?), but i think the To'kra have it under control at the moment...

Anubis
June 20th, 2004, 11:23 PM
I don't think anyone would volunteer to be implanted with a 'dumb' symbiote

Elwe Singollo
June 20th, 2004, 11:28 PM
hahah, unless they were paid alot of money to do it for experimentation, and would get the symbiote removed afterwards.

Iskandra
June 21st, 2004, 02:45 AM
You did notice you all sound like big-time Nirrti fans? :D

"Yeah, let's experiment!" :p

Anubis
June 21st, 2004, 06:53 AM
Can't go wrong with Nirriti. Evil, sly and sexy!

bcmilco
June 21st, 2004, 08:34 PM
Go Nirti! I'd love to see them do an Apophis with Nirti! :p

KorbenDirewolf
June 21st, 2004, 11:36 PM
which i think may have been the point. to extend the arc of the series.

personally i enjoyed it very much. loved the little attack of the clones "homage". special effects were superb as usual. acting, directing, all fantastic. and burke was fun.

Maybe it is just me but I somehow expected something that was called a conclusion to, well, conclude at least some of the storyline from the previous episode. Okay, I'll grant that they did get Jackson and Lee out of trouble, but the Kull warrior bits just seemed unfinished to me.

bcmilco
June 21st, 2004, 11:49 PM
Maybe it is just me but I somehow expected something that was called a conclusion to, well, conclude at least some of the storyline from the previous episode. Okay, I'll grant that they did get Jackson and Lee out of trouble, but the Kull warrior bits just seemed unfinished to me.

I can definately see where you are coming from it wasn't a conclusive conclusion. It worked as an ending for me, because we know they are going to try to -and hopefully succeed in- devloping a new weapon to defeat the StuporSoldiers.

In the meantime they are a "threat" that lingers over the show for the rest of the season. Just like the search for the lost city lingered over the season, despite it not being mentioned in a majority of the episodes. :rolleyes:

stargate barbie
June 23rd, 2004, 04:56 PM
You did notice you all sound like big-time Nirrti fans? :D

"Yeah, let's experiment!" :p
yeah, i'm a big nirrti fan. what? nothing wrong with a little experimentation. :D

stargate barbie
June 23rd, 2004, 05:00 PM
Maybe it is just me but I somehow expected something that was called a conclusion to, well, conclude at least some of the storyline from the previous episode. Okay, I'll grant that they did get Jackson and Lee out of trouble, but the Kull warrior bits just seemed unfinished to me.
this episode was just to introduce the kull warriors. this is continued in death knell in a way. and hopefully will be a continued arc throughout the following season. hopefully they'll become more of a menace and more menacing in future episodes too.

Mio
June 23rd, 2004, 05:51 PM
this episode was just to introduce the kull warriors. this is continued in death knell in a way. and hopefully will be a continued arc throughout the following season. hopefully they'll become more of a menace and more menacing in future episodes too.
Nah, now that we have our weapon, it's not as much of a threat

spoilers, s8







Personally, I'd like to see Ba'al make them more resistant to our weapon :)

KorbenDirewolf
June 23rd, 2004, 07:34 PM
Or maybe Baal could make them threatening. Give them a weapon that can hit major characters. ;)

bcmilco
June 23rd, 2004, 08:03 PM
Or maybe Baal could make them threatening. Give them a weapon that can hit major characters. ;)

Yes please! Especially if it looks like they hit the character because they are a good shot, not because they put down so much cover fire there's just no way they could miss ;)

Elwe Singollo
June 23rd, 2004, 08:10 PM
Has Baal seen our special little weapon?

Dramaqueen
June 24th, 2004, 12:54 AM
and burke was fun.
Yeah, he so was. I love the "You guys are into some crazy crap, man" and the "It's crazy" line. LOL

personally i enjoyed it very much. loved the little attack of the clones "homage"
Yeah... well yet another "homage"... :(

bcmilco
June 24th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Has Baal seen our special little weapon?

Not that we've seen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he'd heard rumors. ;)

Anubis
June 25th, 2004, 04:21 AM
He's probably heard some credible rumours from within his ranks and forces but nothing he has yet seen

Elwe Singollo
June 25th, 2004, 11:40 PM
Yah, i was wondering about that ;) It would be funny if they couldn't find an anti-field to our weapon, but that would be boring, well maybe it wouldn't, seeing goa'uld scientists saying "i dont know", that would be amusing, but i guess they would know they would get shot :D

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:00 AM
I think so, because if you didn't, well lets face it, that would indicate something!

Elwe Singollo
June 26th, 2004, 12:01 AM
But then again, there will be more weapons in the future :)

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:02 AM
Yay for more weapons, more powerful weapons!

Elwe Singollo
June 26th, 2004, 12:03 AM
In this episode, i almost felt bad for that guide who got shot, and said it wasnt his first time, i laughed though when he said that :)

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:05 AM
Yeah, he was great. I like the bit where he encouraged him to go because Daniel owes him a lot of money :D

Elwe Singollo
June 26th, 2004, 12:08 AM
The main bad dude (other than the super soldiers) in this episode is so retarded, hated him, haha... Maybe someone should buy him a sarcophigas, for him to sleep in, FOREVER!, but sadly, he died :) Haha...

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:12 AM
He was great and acted so 'bad'. I just loved to hate him

Elwe Singollo
June 26th, 2004, 12:15 AM
The other thing i liked about this episode was the little teamwork between Jacob and Bray'tac, in the ship disposing of the SS :) I also thought it was weird, the SS that got onto the ship after escaping the base, he was walking towards Sam like he was going to shoot her, but he ends up hitting her instead...

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:17 AM
*cough* *cough*Bra'tac

Elwe Singollo
June 26th, 2004, 12:20 AM
Yah, i wasn't sure if it had a 'y' or not, confusion with 'the changeling', i don't think they would spell 'Brey/Bray' like 'Bra', haha...

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:28 AM
Brey/Bray/Bra (OK, not the last one :eek: lol)

Elwe Singollo
June 26th, 2004, 12:30 AM
What was the name of Jacks friend in this episode, the one who helped him get to Daniel?

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:32 AM
It was someone he worked with, I can't remember his name

Elwe Singollo
June 26th, 2004, 12:34 AM
Maybe in the future (if we go past S8), they should reintroduce the character and actually see what happened, cause i was '???' on what they were talking about.

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:36 AM
I agree. Or Daniel goes back to find another hidden device there

Selmak
July 11th, 2004, 08:09 AM
I like when Jacob gets in the Super-Soldier suit.

Anubis
July 11th, 2004, 08:10 AM
Once again, the security of Anubis was beaten. So dumb

Selmak
July 16th, 2004, 09:53 AM
The suit seems the most important part... do they still have it?

DownFallAngel
July 16th, 2004, 12:13 PM
They left it behind. And the Ancient Guardian probes swept away Anubis' dead kull warriors in the outpost.

They should make coats and **** out of those suits, and arm the SG teams with them.

aAnubiSs
July 16th, 2004, 12:14 PM
I liked the Kull warriors weapons. Seemed better then a Staff :)

Selmak
July 17th, 2004, 10:56 PM
Much faster rate of fire.

aAnubiSs
July 18th, 2004, 05:22 AM
yeah.

Elwe Singollo
July 18th, 2004, 08:00 AM
I think its an uber staff weapon, probably stronger blast power, and yah, like you said, tons faster :rolleyes:

Selmak
July 18th, 2004, 09:32 AM
Goa'uld Machine Gun

aAnubiSs
July 18th, 2004, 09:36 AM
Imagine slapping 4 of those onto a staff weapon :) (up-down-left-right on the head)

That would give the Staff one powerful bolt of plasma and 4*3 smaller ones :)

SPRAY AND PRAY

Elwe Singollo
July 18th, 2004, 10:22 AM
Goa'uld Machine GunYah you kind of wonder, before the Kull warriors, that the Goa'uld doesn't have any rapid fire weapons... Well, none that i can remember :rolleyes:

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 08:51 PM
you're right... that is the only alien rapid-fire weapon I have seen.

Anubis
August 2nd, 2004, 01:59 PM
The only simular weapons they have is those on the motherships that fire quickly. I'm glad Anubis had some 'drone' guns established.

aAnubiSs
August 2nd, 2004, 02:03 PM
Apophis mothership fired at Heru-ur fast :cool:

Anubis
August 2nd, 2004, 02:03 PM
True, but that's old. We like new!

Replicarter
August 15th, 2004, 09:01 AM
http://www.alphawebspace.com/~karl/GWPT.gif

This was the second best episode of season 7, loved the look of the planet and special effects, and was so cool when they walk up to the window and there’s like thousands of super soldiers saying "hail Anubis, hail Anubis" the look on there faces. Also, when they ringed the SS out of the cargo ship i liked the effect with the rings blowing away and the SS just looks gormless and falling to one side.

http://www.alphawebspace.com/~karl/GWPB.gif

SeaBee
August 22nd, 2004, 02:56 AM
Nice ep. It brings a whole new thread into play, with the Kull army.

But couldn't the jungle have been a little more tropical?

Madeleine
August 22nd, 2004, 09:08 PM
What, a parrot noise and a banana plant in a pot weren't enough to persuade you that they weren't in British Columbia?

Anubis
August 23rd, 2004, 01:50 AM
Nice ep. It brings a whole new thread into play, with the Kull army.

But couldn't the jungle have been a little more tropical?



They could have done, made it a bit brighter but different parts will have different tones and creatures living there! :D

THE BIG UNIT
September 9th, 2004, 05:49 AM
I Noticed Something while watching the Evolution 2 Parter Recently, the way Bra'tac Got rid the The Super Soldier was the Same way Sam Captured the Soldier. i have seen these Episodes more than a couple of times but that was the first time i noticed it, weird. Ithought the Episode was Great (well both actually). The Tartarus Sets and Special effects were really well done, and i can never get enough of the Sam and Jacob Pairing.

Anubis
September 9th, 2004, 07:57 AM
I Noticed Something while watching the Evolution 2 Parter Recently, the way Bra'tac Got rid the The Super Soldier was the Same way Sam Captured the Soldier. i have seen these Episodes more than a couple of times but that was the first time i noticed it, weird. Ithought the Episode was Great (well both actually). The Tartarus Sets and Special effects were really well done, and i can never get enough of the Sam and Jacob Pairing.



No matter how many times you watch it, every time it seems different and you always seem to spot something you hadn't before. Weird really. This goes with all shows, not just Stargate.

Lord Zedd
September 9th, 2004, 10:05 AM
like nirti hot !!!!!!!!!!! goa'uld
mmm :D

LMichelle
November 1st, 2004, 06:54 AM
I think they had too much stuff going on in this ep. The whole Super Soldier thing with Sam, Bra'tac and Teal'c. Daniel and Dr. Lee kidnapped. Then the Jack/Burke dynamic going on. Too much. :eek:

My favorite line was Daniel saying: "Found one." ROTFL!

I liked the humor in it and the scenes at the end with Jack, Burke and Daniel talking about the device and its capabilities. However, I'm also all for Daniel running around the jungle in a sleeveless shirt all dirty and sweaty. :D

Lisa Michelle

aschen
November 2nd, 2004, 11:33 AM
I saw "Evolution Part II" last night, and I got really mad that they used Thoth as a Goa'uld. He was one of my favorite egyptian gods. He also took the form of Hermes, and taught mankind to write down their history. Him being a Goa'uld doesn't sit well with me. :o

greytop
November 13th, 2004, 09:44 PM
Burke sort of reminded me of Maybourne in a way by his actions but they were better intentions than Maybourne.

greytop
November 13th, 2004, 09:47 PM
I saw "Evolution Part II" last night, and I got really mad that they used Thoth as a Goa'uld. He was one of my favorite egyptian gods. He also took the form of Hermes, and taught mankind to write down their history. Him being a Goa'uld doesn't sit well with me. :o
Maybe that is why Anubis (or was Apophis) went to war and killed him but never finding the box.

Whistler
December 25th, 2004, 12:32 PM
I loved the Evolution episodes, simply because of the whole kid nap and South America storyline, that was really enjoyable, and the locations looked great.

The super soldiers were just a bonus, I like the fact these episodes opened up so many new storylines. :D

Buggy542
December 25th, 2004, 12:53 PM
I loved the Evolution episodes, simply because of the whole kid nap and South America storyline, that was really enjoyable, and the locations looked great.

Same here. I didn't really pay all that much attention to the other story-lines going on, except for the super-soldier one which I found to be pretty interesting. I was a bit distracted by Daniel... :o

Anyways...

;)

Qtyled
January 12th, 2005, 11:28 PM
I liked this ep. The waterfall was great! especially for CG. :D

girlgater
April 27th, 2005, 02:59 PM
I enjoyed the Evolution episodes. I really enjoy any episode that has Sam/Jacob. I also liked the ah ha moment when they realized how many super-soldiers Anubis had created. The Jack/Burke scenes were great as well. Burke's role was similiar to that of Mayborne, but with better intentions.

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-girlgater

Stricken
June 5th, 2005, 07:44 AM
Great conclusion to Evolution to part I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a stargate moment

QuiGonJohn
June 21st, 2005, 05:18 AM
I think they had too much stuff going on in this ep. The whole Super Soldier thing with Sam, Bra'tac and Teal'c. Daniel and Dr. Lee kidnapped. Then the Jack/Burke dynamic going on. Too much. :eek:

Actually, this is something I liked about it. Even though the whole team wasn't together, they were all doing something useful and we got to see all the stories.

One thing, when Daniel was first telling the kidnapper that he should just release them, that he had no idea who he was really dealing with, I thought something big was gonna happen. Like Jack showing up over the camp in the Scout Ship, or Oma Desala appearing and causing the kidnappers to flee, etc.

ApophisOfTheStargateRealm
June 22nd, 2005, 07:49 AM
it seems like it would have been easier for daniel and the other guy to escape...i mean daniel has escaped capture from Goa'uld before and stuff...lol...well i guess he did in the end...

captain jake
July 5th, 2006, 11:13 PM
This was the best scene of the entire season. (I dare you to find a better one)

http://www.stargatefan.com/episodes7/0712/images/201.jpg

Two_L's
June 9th, 2007, 06:44 AM
This was an excellent conclusion to the first part. I liked how the team was split up into groups, but, in a way, they were still working together. The jungle locations were fun to see and I liked the guide Daniel had and the one Jack had too.

The end with all the super soldiers was really cool and it's good they leave it up in the air so that we have to wait and see what's going to happen; almost like it's a 3 parter. ;) Oh, and enjoyed the last line, "Lunch?" :P


Yeah, he so was. I love the "You guys are into some crazy crap, man" and the "It's crazy" line. LOL

Yeh, Burke was a great character! I loved the last couple of scenes with him, Jack, Daniel and Dr. Lee, especially when they were talking about whether the artifact was still 'on' or not, and also the 'dawn of the dead guy' line. They were hilarious. :D


This was the best scene of the entire season. (I dare you to find a better one)

http://www.stargatefan.com/episodes7/0712/images/201.jpg

I have to completely agree with you! Watching the soldier get blown away in the air was funny and very cool. ;)

garhkal
June 9th, 2007, 11:24 AM
I have to completely agree with you! Watching the soldier get blown away in the air was funny and very cool. ;)

That to me showed an inconsistency. If their armor is impervious to energy (eve n shields), then how can they be beamed?

Dinoman
April 9th, 2009, 05:08 PM
That to me showed an inconsistency. If their armor is impervious to energy (eve n shields), then how can they be beamed?

I think the theory behind the ring/beam is similar to the Stargate in which particles of a matter is broken down and then regenerated. If the super soldiers could not be beamed I don't think they could go through the Stargate either.

Jumper_One
April 22nd, 2009, 04:50 PM
Maruxs writes: “1) What’s the difference between directing SG1+SGA and SGU??2) Can you describe how did you get your job (as director and writer) on Stargate??3) Which one of your scripts is in your opinion the best?”

PDL: [...] ) I really like Evolution Part 2 because of the Burke character and O’Neill back story.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/april-22-2009-director-peter-deluise-answers-your-questions-another-upcoming-guest-blogger/

vzzzzzbx
June 13th, 2009, 08:05 PM
Yeah Burke was a cool character "what's with the guy from Evil Dead?" :D and it was nice to learn a little more about O'Neill's past. Another one for the 'shame we never saw them again' list I guess.

ijsfee
February 19th, 2010, 12:39 AM
there is a first for everything...never thought i would but yes, this episode got me to write a post here ;-)
i know i am maybe 5 years late but i just recently started watching stargate (for the first time...) and still have to catch up with the episodes.
lots of stuff ist still new to me so forgive me if i am aksing old/boring questions.

i enjoyed both evolution 1 and 2 and liked that there were 2 totaly different stories going on and a lot of emotional stuff between jack and burke.
but...i was - at least a little - disappointed about the torturing.
i mean both daniel and lee get tortured. brutally. and then there is almost no blood? no bruises? no gashes? hello?
after such an ordeal you would assume the body to be a bloody bruised mess.
but there was only a tiny bit of blood on daniel`s face.
no blood on their (remarkably white) shirts, nor daniel`s pants.
and his face...well...he looked more like a guy who has been on a 2-day-drinking binge...not like a guy who went through hell.
why do the main characters never look a little more roughed up? all the side characters and all the bad guys always look worse, have wounds and blood everywhere. i stumbled about that not only in this episode but lots of episodes in both stargate and atlantis so this no-blood-thing is not a "one and only" i guess.

btw: this long haired supposed-to-be-dead rebel was creepy as was this thing inside the black armor *bwah*

Noxbait
February 21st, 2010, 06:13 PM
Well...this and Evolution 1 go down in my absolute favorite, could watch a million times over, episodes. A fun adventure. It felt like old times, though everyone wasn't together the whole time. And, IMHO...any episode that includes Jacob and Bra'tac is worth watching till you go blind. Love those guys!

And, by the by, I really never see any hesitation or irritation in Jack's behavior toward going after Daniel. I think he was worried and more than willing to go after him, but also worried about the threat Sam/Teal'c were going to have to work toward solving.

Jeff O'Connor
February 25th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Good two-parter. Not my favorite, not by a country mile, but I do echo some of Noxbait's sentiment. It's a solid, old-school adventure story, with some truly great moments. Jacob AND Bra'tac! Oh hell yes!

mrscopterdoc
March 27th, 2010, 07:41 AM
One of the best episodes ever! Even though they were split up it still felt like a good old team eppy. Add Bra'tak and Jacob and Daniel's arms :P and ding ding we have a winner! :lol:

maneth
October 27th, 2010, 09:56 AM
Cool episode, loved the whole plotlines. The contrast between the jungle and Anubis' lair was pretty funny too.

chaapa-ai
November 3rd, 2010, 03:44 PM
I liked this double episode of fun, it really helps get the season back in gear (some of the previous episodes just seemed like they were trying to fill the year out). The disintegration of the walking dead was the best! However, I was never a real big fan of the 'super soldier', the idea itself is good but not how they worked it out.

Anyway I remember when this first aired it was very frustrating having to wait for months for the conclusion.

Jayq
February 9th, 2011, 08:38 PM
Good ep but one thing reaaaally annoyed me, why did salmak take off the suit?!? I mean he'd be impervious to weapons plus he'd maintain a tactical advantage if they run into any enemy PLUS they get to keep the suit for further study AND further missions (ie they effectively get their own supersoldier!!!! It's just retarded and I can't think of even one good reason he would have taken it off in the first place... So annoying.

Noxbait
February 10th, 2011, 02:13 AM
Good ep but one thing reaaaally annoyed me, why did salmak take off the suit?!? I mean he'd be impervious to weapons plus he'd maintain a tactical advantage if they run into any enemy PLUS they get to keep the suit for further study AND further missions (ie they effectively get their own supersoldier!!!! It's just retarded and I can't think of even one good reason he would have taken it off in the first place... So annoying.

it was hot. ; )

blueray
June 26th, 2011, 11:12 AM
Good ep but one thing reaaaally annoyed me, why did salmak take off the suit?!? I mean he'd be impervious to weapons plus he'd maintain a tactical advantage if they run into any enemy PLUS they get to keep the suit for further study AND further missions (ie they effectively get their own supersoldier!!!! It's just retarded and I can't think of even one good reason he would have taken it off in the first place... So annoying.

maybe it was uncomfortable, at least the helmet would be. if i remember correctly vala takes off the ones shes wearing in pemesous unbound (or whatever its called) rather quickly.

loserinc
June 30th, 2011, 11:40 PM
Gotta love Evo 1&2 for the armporn and whump alone :D

Dave2
December 24th, 2011, 05:04 PM
Whew.......what an episode(s) this was...........but now they are faced with an army of thousands of the creatures made by Anubis......what could be next? Or how do they get rid of them?!
Under such circumstances the system lords should have a change of heart and ally together with the Earth and everyone else against him. Or else........turn the Replicators on Anubis and his creatures. But I can imagine the replicators would replicate the power of the super soldiers, so that's no solution.........

Dave2
December 25th, 2011, 12:23 AM
How did SG1 get the captured super soldier into the SGC?

Matt G
February 14th, 2012, 03:10 PM
Tuesday night, another ep of SG1...

1. Stupid dodgy geezers.

2. Burke was an interesting enough character.

3. The Kull warriors as we started to call them looked more invincible than ever. At this point you had to get up very early to catch them.

4. I'm sure there had already been a fanfic done with Thoth...the fanfic character lasted a bit longer than this guy.

Decent enough ep and decent enough two parter.

Lieutenant Sparrow
February 14th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Didn't like part 2 as much as 1. But it was still better than most eps this season.

We have an army of super soldiers on our hands. But at least Anubis can't make anymore now.

Pretty cool having a zombie in Stargate.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
February 16th, 2012, 03:38 PM
Good conclusion to the 2 parter. This is fond for me because it was 1st second half premiere I saw. I still remember looking at the caps after it aired in the U.K. Then actually seeing it on SciFi.

I thought Burke was a fun character. And Jack had a good amount of back story added to him in this one.

The 2 sequences I loved where the one with all of the Kull Warriors walking in. And the one where the Kull warrior is beamed out of the cargo ship.

Tomorrow, the Prometheus is back and Sam sees hallucinations.

Krisz
February 16th, 2012, 05:18 PM
I forgot how entertaining this two parter was.

There was so much going on with Daniel and Dr Lee in dire straits in Honduras. Sam, Teal'c and Co discovering the extent of Abubis' plans for galactic domination. Quite interesting how many of Anubis' ideas seemed to come from what he got from Jonas' mind as well as the Ancient knowledge he has.

Loved how the threat of Anubis was built up from this point onwards in this season to give the best season ender of the series for me with Lost City.

Jae'a
February 17th, 2012, 11:28 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/38579.html)

More Bra'tac epicocity* near the end of this ep, with the ring transporter and the Kull Warrior. :D

*That word was coined by a friend of mine on another forum. I though it fit. :)

Oma De Salad
February 17th, 2012, 05:58 PM
"Man, you guys are into some crazy crap." Burke, blowing a bubble while firing a huge (I don't even know what that was) gun at a ZOMBIE. I like it. Burke was great.

Noticing Anubis has a habit of shooting his research scientists - no wonder he has chase tablets all around to scavenge technology :0

jelgate
February 19th, 2012, 04:53 PM
This is the exact opposite of Part I. I find the Daniel story more interesting to watch the Kul warrior stuff. Rafeal is not as ruthless as a Goa'uld but his torture was kind of graphic as he tortures Daniel that I really grew to hate him especially after he turned the Tel'chak device. Creating a new character out of Jack's past seems unneccessary. They could have easily picked someone already established who has been blacklisted. It just seems unneccessary especially since we never see the guy again. The strategtic impossibility of the Kul warriors base being so easy for SG1 to infilitrate bothers me. It was too easy for me. However, I thought it was an interesting idea to use the Egeria from Cure to mimic and creat the symbiotes

discodiva
February 19th, 2012, 10:13 PM
Rafael was a great bad guy....I did like Burke, but I think that was because I enjoyed the performance by the actor more than the backstory of him and O'Neill...I'd also almost forgotten how much more serious a character Dr Lee was at the start of his SG-1 performances and not the "comedy side-kick" he became from S.8 onwards...:(

Deeds xx

Cluas
February 9th, 2013, 02:03 PM
Not as good as part one, but still a good ep - Enjoyed Jackson and Lee, but the story felt a bit weak, i liked the Jacob-part but what happened to the Kull armor? And the Jack-part was also good :jack_new_anime07:

garhkal
February 10th, 2013, 01:51 PM
They never explained what happened.. Nor did they mention what happened to the other kulls...
Though who knows/ Maybe the suit he wore was the one that was worn by Vala later..

Cluas
February 11th, 2013, 12:51 AM
They never explained what happened.. Nor did they mention what happened to the other kulls...
Though who knows/ Maybe the suit he wore was the one that was worn by Vala later..

That's a bit of a shame, they didn't follow up on the armor and the other Kull's. I noticed in the Vala episode too - They probably sent it to area 51, and maybe still working on it?

Baron Of Hell
July 14th, 2013, 03:52 PM
Liked both episode. I got a Vader vibe when they removed the helmet. The only thing I didn't like was the super solider decking Sam instead of shooting her. Also didn't like how no one died while being shot at in a enclosed space at near point blank range.

The suits were cool. Army guy was cool in a wacky way. I hope he shows up again but if not oh well.

Falcon Horus
November 7th, 2013, 08:58 AM
So, Anubis has a whole army of these Kull warriors. How screwed does that make us... very, I'd say. I at least expected Carter to say as much when they look down upon the many, many warrior bowing down to their lord and master.

They at least manage to destroy the queen bee, no more little goa'ulds for Anubis to print with evil thoughts.

All the while Daniel and Lee are having plenty of fun high up the mountain, being tortured for information. You just know Lee will spill his guts in the blink of an eye.

But, if the rebels left the device on while they were chasing down their captives turned runners, wouldn't it have revived those dead guys lying in the grass? Or were they too far away from the device? Or exposed not long enough perhaps?

Seaboe Muffinchucker
December 3rd, 2013, 07:09 AM
I'd think they were outside the range of the object (possibly because they were outside and it was inside). That makes sense to me since only the leader, who was in the building with it all the time, went crazy from exposure.

I'm not sure they could've turned it off if they'd wanted to.

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
December 3rd, 2013, 07:48 AM
Makes sense.

Janet Fraiser
July 22nd, 2015, 09:44 PM
After skimming through the thread, I feel like I'm in the minority when I say I didn't really like these episodes.

The good? The Kull warriors are possibly the creepiest bad guys I've seen so far, suit on or not. I kept getting that feeling of dread that I would in a horror movie when you know one of the characters is screwed because there is no way they could escape or fight whoever is after them. All the way up to when one of them broke into their escape ship and looked like he was about to shoot Carter (which I was surprised he didn't do, but then she'd be inconveniently dead), I was not so silently freaking out.

The army bowing to Anubis and the escape sequence after was also pretty cool.

But that's about it for me. The entire kidnapping story made me cringe so much. Any native Spanish speaker can correct me, but I couldn't get past how American/Canadian the rebels sounded, not to mention that I'm not sure strangers would be speaking informally to one another there. (Also speaking English to one another all the time lol. I think subtitled Spanish would have been more believable, at least.)

And I'll just leave the most cringeworthy line here...

Native Spanish-speaking guy who has somehow survived for days lying on the ground after being shot with no food or water:

"I love American gum." (Cue big 'ole grin) "Good guys."

I Am Not James Spader
September 28th, 2015, 12:44 PM
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After skimming through the thread, I feel like I'm in the minority when I say I didn't really like these episodes.

The good? The Kull warriors are possibly the creepiest bad guys I've seen so far, suit on or not. I kept getting that feeling of dread that I would in a horror movie when you know one of the characters is screwed because there is no way they could escape or fight whoever is after them. All the way up to when one of them broke into their escape ship and looked like he was about to shoot Carter (which I was surprised he didn't do, but then she'd be inconveniently dead), I was not so silently freaking out.

The army bowing to Anubis and the escape sequence after was also pretty cool.

But that's about it for me. The entire kidnapping story made me cringe so much. Any native Spanish speaker can correct me, but I couldn't get past how American/Canadian the rebels sounded, not to mention that I'm not sure strangers would be speaking informally to one another there. (Also speaking English to one another all the time lol. I think subtitled Spanish would have been more believable, at least.)

And I'll just leave the most cringeworthy line here...

Native Spanish-speaking guy who has somehow survived for days lying on the ground after being shot with no food or water:

"I love American gum." (Cue big 'ole grin) "Good guys."

I 100% agree.

The Kull part of the story was great - although the whole running in slow motion every time was overdone.

And wasn't it foolish of Jacob to take off the armour so soon into the mission. Obviously he didn't need it ;) but in a "real life" mission wouldn't a soldier keep the disguise, and indestructible armour, on him?

And can SG-1 directors not handle action scenes with multiple characters? The Kull walks up to Carter and smacks her. No one else attempts to intervene - they just let her get her get hit. And the scene was just slow. It happens a lot in the show - the actions never involve multiple characters diving in to the action with each other or coming to the aid of a team mate when they collapse or are injured.

With the exception of Burke (Enrico Colantoni is always awesome of course), the entire story was woeful. Jackson resisting torture to make him more heroic than Lee was a silly idea - Daniel breaking would have been more interesting.

And the guide lying in the jungle for days with a gunshot wound? No infection? No fever? The guy was just lying there like he was sun bathing?:jack_new_anime05: Woeful.

Anja
September 29th, 2015, 12:15 PM
Lot of action and it's not my world when there are parallel plots and they jump back and fro. While reading - yes, while watching tv - no.
Creepy Kulls, heroic Jackson, loser Lee and a hero and and and...too much for me.
Oh, forgot - some story from the past.