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April 8th, 2006, 09:04 PM
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Bernard proposes to create an S.O.S. sign on the beach in the hopes of rescuing his wife, and is stunned when she is opposed to the plan. Meanwhile, Jack and Kate go in search of the Others to propose a prisoner exchange, and Locke faces a personal crisis.

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Drahc42
April 12th, 2006, 07:05 PM
Finally...

Micheal's back!!!!

:D

FoolishPleasure
April 12th, 2006, 08:02 PM
Finally...

Micheal's back!!!!

:D
Rose knows about Locke! :D

ItsDan
April 13th, 2006, 04:42 AM
And I wonder how many others have had 'miraculous' things happen to them and no one knows, if these people would just talk to each other heck they might be off the island by now, or atleast know more about it. I mean Kate didn't tell anyone about the other hatch because she was being petty with Jack? Locke didn't tell anyone about the map because...well because he's Locke?

Thermonuclearboy
April 13th, 2006, 05:35 AM
Indeed, Its. If only these people would talk to each other, work together, maybe they'd get somewhere.

I've learned I was wrong. I thought Jin and Sun were cutest couple in the world. Rose and Bernard have usurped that title, I think.

And I wonder whose bright idea it was to cast Wayne Pygram as a faith healer. Oh yeah, get your tumor cured by SCORPIUS! HE's trustworthy, all right...

Skydiver
April 13th, 2006, 05:46 AM
rose and bernard are cute

and yeah, if these folks would just lose the secrets and start to trust each other, they'd be home by now

FoolishPleasure
April 13th, 2006, 06:56 AM
And I wonder how many others have had 'miraculous' things happen to them and no one knows,
Sun and Jin couldn't have children. I'm sure there are others who have experienced miracles too.


and yeah, if these folks would just lose the secrets and start to trust each other, they'd be home by now
Rose thought if they left the island, her disease would return so she really doesn't want to leave. Locke doesn't seem to want to leave either.

That "Henry" dude is really irritating me. They thought they could get info out of him, but all he is doing is playing head games with them. :S

MarshAngel
April 13th, 2006, 07:04 AM
Well it seems there have been three healing events so far if you count Jin's sperm count.

Rose and Bernard are adorable. Bernard seems to be all heart.... and light on the people skills and common sense.

Seriously, with all the strange things going on you'd think they'd be communicating with each other more. Hiding things for no apparent reason just seems to be a touch counterproductive. Although, I do understand Rose and Locke's decision for keeping mum somewhat. No one would believe them and I don't think anyone wants to hear good reasons for staying on the Island.

Does anyone suppose Ana Lucia will find her child bearing issues solved in the future?

ItsDan
April 13th, 2006, 07:07 AM
Rose thought if they left the island, her disease would return so she really doesn't want to leave.

But that's my point. They've been there like 2 months now and it's the first we heard of it.

I don't know, I don't necessarily like Rose now. She's very nagging on Bernard. She speaks down to him all the time, criticizes all he does including how he puts food on a shelf, and then infront of everyone completely undermines him and makes him look like a fool. All that when she could have just told Bernard how she felt and the truth of her healing.

yaaayoubetcha
April 13th, 2006, 10:04 AM
Rose thought if they left the island, her disease would return so she really doesn't want to leave.

But that's my point. They've been there like 2 months now and it's the first we heard of it.

I don't know, I don't necessarily like Rose now. She's very nagging on Bernard. She speaks down to him all the time, criticizes all he does including how he puts food on a shelf, and then infront of everyone completely undermines him and makes him look like a fool. All that when she could have just told Bernard how she felt and the truth of her healing.

yah...i lost a bit of respect for her character because of the way she was written in this ep...but I can understand how she feels...having gotten her hopes up, a bit, in Australia only to be told a healing couldn't happen(i kept excpecting him to break out the Aurora Chair) and then having the healling happen on the island for no apparent reason and here he is trying to get off the island because of the lie she told him. set herself up there a bit, but rather than face that she lashes out at him.

all that said, I really liked their backstory. had been waiting on that since they were re-united earlier this season.

Henry continues to entertain even in silence.

I did like how Rose helped to re-affirm Locke's belief in himself/the island and get back to work on the map. Hopefully they play out some more bunker eps.

Knew it was gonna be either Michael or Walt showing up at the end when the dog came to Sawyer. The dog is never around unless one of them are in the ep.

Skydiver
April 13th, 2006, 10:26 AM
maybe that's part of the 'experiment' of the island.

if you keep the subjects 'happy' then they don't question/fight thier captivity where as if they're upset/unhappy/threatened, then they fight

everyone seems to be getting complacent. oh, we're here, let's just make the most of it

rarocks24
April 13th, 2006, 11:05 AM
maybe that's part of the 'experiment' of the island.

if you keep the subjects 'happy' then they don't question/fight thier captivity where as if they're upset/unhappy/threatened, then they fight

everyone seems to be getting complacent. oh, we're here, let's just make the most of it
This is perhaps the most annoying thing, the group's complacency. It leads me back to what I said earlier, I think that the Others, that there are more than one group of them, seperated into tribes (is that the right word?). I don't know...

But yeah, why not try again to get off the island, on the other hand, what do they all have going back to? Ana Lucia and Kate are criminals (Kate blew up her father and Ana killed the guy that ruined her pregnancy), Sun and Jin were IIRC leaving South Korea in favor of living in the States, Jack has nothing. None of these people have anything to go back to.

Happy_Gate
April 13th, 2006, 11:42 AM
I didn't get a good look at Micheal's face. Was there something on it, like rashes or boils? My sister said there was but I couldn't make out.
If it is, could it be he's been infected with the disease that the others are afraid of?

Tok'Ra Hostess
April 13th, 2006, 12:18 PM
... on the other hand, what do they all have going back to? Ana Lucia and Kate are criminals (Kate blew up her father and Ana killed the guy that ruined her pregnancy), Sun and Jin were IIRC leaving South Korea in favor of living in the States, Jack has nothing. None of these people have anything to go back to.

I agree.

Considering how much these people's lives intersected each other before they even got on the plane - no, back up; in many cases, before they even went to Australia - I'm not really surprised that they also share a common desire to stay out of "the world" or the "real life" that rescue would bring them.

We should make a list:

Sun and Jin - the only place safe from Sun's father is on the island.

Kate - she's a wanted woman everywhere but here.

Hurley - what's he got to go back to?

Sawyer - don't know his full story yet. Why was he in the police station at the same time Boone was? At any rate, the world is a little bit safer place with Sawyer stuck on the island. ;)

Ditto for Ana Lucia

Locke has lost Helen and here he has health and a measure of the control and adventure he's always sought.

Rose has her life, and Bernard has his Rose.

Sayid seems to have given up on Nadia and is probably personna non grata among his own people.

Eko - probably sees his new situation as the will of god.

Charlie - a has-been off the island, but aside from that I don't know what could make him want to stay on the island where he's quicky building himself a poor reputation.

Claire and Micheal and Walt: I'm not too sure what might motivate them to want to stay. Micheal certainly wants off the island.

That leaves Jack, Libby, Frogurt, Scott(or is it Steve?), and who else?

yaaayoubetcha
April 13th, 2006, 12:51 PM
I didn't get a good look at Micheal's face. Was there something on it, like rashes or boils? My sister said there was but I couldn't make out.
If it is, could it be he's been infected with the disease that the others are afraid of?

he did look a bit beat up....but i couldn't decide if he was diseased or just abused.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
April 13th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Good ep. I was shocked when I saw John (Terry O'Quinn's Character) in a wheelchair. I give it a ***.

Major Zoidberg
April 13th, 2006, 04:44 PM
Wow great to see michael back :D does that have to be in spoiler tags? :o

Their still sneaking those character back story's in after almost 2 seasons great! But this epsiode was still more of a meh :(

Darren
April 13th, 2006, 06:55 PM
NowAbydos, did you not watch Season One's "Walkabout?" Fantastic, fantastic hour of television.

Skydiver
April 13th, 2006, 07:13 PM
yeah, i'm afraid locke in a wheelchair was one of the first 'miracles' that was revealed (beyond them surviving a 30,000 foot free fall that is)

what does hurley have to go back to? nothing but bad luck.

claire, if she's rescued, will the adoption still go through? presuming it was real that is

jack...there's still something hidden about him i think

and the blond chick, the one that's hooked up with hurley? (i'm blanking on the name)

but yeah, over all it seems that the survivors of the crash are the ones that had the least to live for

Formerhost
April 14th, 2006, 04:08 AM
yeah, i'm afraid locke in a wheelchair was one of the first 'miracles' that was revealed (beyond them surviving a 30,000 foot free fall that is)

what does hurley have to go back to? nothing but bad luck.

claire, if she's rescued, will the adoption still go through? presuming it was real that is

jack...there's still something hidden about him i think

and the blond chick, the one that's hooked up with hurley? (i'm blanking on the name)


Libby. I suppose we're going to get a little of her backstory in the upcoming episodes...

It was great to see Wayne Pygram (Farscape's Scorpy) in this episode, but the scene was definitely too short :mckay:

Nyarlathotep
April 14th, 2006, 06:14 AM
he did look a bit beat up....but i couldn't decide if he was diseased or just abused.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was diseased... after all filming is supposedly moving to California to cut down on costs so in order to force the characters to move to a different part of the island the 'disease' is coming back - man I wish I could avoid reading spoilers!! :)

Skydiver
April 14th, 2006, 10:20 AM
what i've found interesting is the captive, henry(?)....he is soooo playing locke against jack and vice versa

makes you wonder if he's been sent/put there to breed disension or if he's just enjoying it

yaaayoubetcha
April 14th, 2006, 10:20 AM
i will not press the button.

lol

GhostPoet
April 14th, 2006, 12:27 PM
heheh...did anyone else love the scowl Locke gave the timer? hehe :) Nice touch.

Michael's back! yay! But...it's a trap of some sort. Think about it...Michael saw their facility...the Others are smart, they wouldn't just let someone go who has SEEN them. He is either brainwashed or they are using his lust for vengeance as a way of trapping all the strongest people on the island when he trys to get them to fight the Others.

I do have one theory. The island is invisible to radar, satellite etc because (like the healer said) the island is on a major energy point...which explains the healings. And that's why the Darma group came to that island...they may or may not have known they couldn't leave either...I think the food drop is automatic and somehow connected to the button as well.

gatebee
April 14th, 2006, 08:52 PM
i will not press the button.

lol
totally agree ... stop pressing the button

Ragnarok13
April 14th, 2006, 08:58 PM
i wonder if rose is from buffalo. she said she had been driving in snow all her life(which is a false stereo type of the city we dont get as much as people say)
they also went to niagra falls which isnt that far from buffalo, but it a big honeymoon capital, or somthing of that group, but it coud just be a coincedence

Tok'Ra Hostess
April 15th, 2006, 06:52 AM
i wonder if rose is from buffalo. she said she had been driving in snow all her life(which is a false stereo type of the city we dont get as much as people say)
they also went to niagra falls which isnt that far from buffalo, but it a big honeymoon capital, or somthing of that group, but it coud just be a coincedence

You know, it's creepy when one thinks about how far-reaching this Dharma group must be.

Rose and Bernard - mid-north eastern US,

Sawyer and Kate - south east-ish US

Jack, Locke, Hurley, Libby, Shannon and Boone - west coast US

Charlie - UK

Sayid - Iraq

Claire - Australia

Eko - Some African country

Danielle - France

Ethan - presumably Canada

Thermonuclearboy
April 15th, 2006, 06:59 AM
<nitpick>
Actually Kate's from the Midwest. Iowa, I think they said.
</nitpick>

Ragnarok13
April 15th, 2006, 09:01 AM
</nitpick 2.0>
i believe eko is from nigeria
</nitpick 2.0>

ItsDan
April 15th, 2006, 09:16 AM
You're assuming the group intentionally brought those people there. So far our indication is that "The Others" don't like that these people are on the island.

Tok'Ra Hostess
April 15th, 2006, 10:42 AM
You're assuming the group intentionally brought those people there. So far our indication is that "The Others" don't like that these people are on the island.

First off, thanks for the <nitpicks> clarifications, folks. :D

Yeah, I am assuming that they were hand-picked.

As to the "others" I think they may be in the employ of the Dharma Initiative, and that they establish perimeters for the test subjects - erecting a sort of wall in the island's psychological maze. Some test subjects manage to break more or less free of the maze, like Danielle and possibly some other "others" that we may have only gotten a glimpse of(Danielle's daughter, perhaps?)

<shrugs> I'm likely way off base, as usual....

rarocks24
April 15th, 2006, 12:56 PM
</nitpick 2.0>
i believe eko is from nigeria
</nitpick 2.0>
I thought he was from Ethiopia?

Ragnarok13
April 15th, 2006, 03:41 PM
the so-called priests which were actually ekos men and bro, which were found by locke and boon (?) had nigerain money so... i guess that proves it

Hatcheter
April 16th, 2006, 12:37 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if he was diseased... after all filming is supposedly moving to California to cut down on costs so in order to force the characters to move to a different part of the island the 'disease' is coming back - man I wish I could avoid reading spoilers!! :)

Do what now?

Nyarlathotep
April 16th, 2006, 11:33 AM
Do what now?

Not sure what you're asking :)

But this is apparently the case... guess we'll see during the last 5 eps of this season...

Puddle Jumper 1
April 16th, 2006, 06:12 PM
I cant wait to see this eppy :D

rarocks24
April 17th, 2006, 11:43 AM
I cant wait to see this eppy :D
Just buy it off itunes...actually, I think it's now available to download for free.

Hatcheter
April 19th, 2006, 05:18 AM
Not sure what you're asking :)

But this is apparently the case... guess we'll see during the last 5 eps of this season...

I'm asking for clarification on the speculation that the on-location filming will have a relocation from Hawaii to California.

Major Zoidberg
April 19th, 2006, 08:01 AM
does california look anything like hawii :hammond04: :(

FoolishPleasure
April 19th, 2006, 08:26 AM
I'm asking for clarification on the speculation that the on-location filming will have a relocation from Hawaii to California.
I can't find anything stating the entire production is moving from Hawaii to L.A. There was a recent article that Naveen Andrews (Sayid) bought a house in L.A. That was it.

There was speculation about sets changing. What I found was that the "Losties" all moved back to the beach because the Cave set needed to be broken down so they could expand the Hatch set. There are rumors that they need more interior set space that they can't get in Hawaii, but that wouldn't stop them from the exterior location shots. They are on an island and therefore do need to film outside. The cost for this show is very high so maybe they are toying with filming all the interior and flashback scenes in L.A.

Nyarlathotep
April 19th, 2006, 08:49 AM
I will try and find the link again... it sounded fairly plausible though as Lost costs a lot more than Desperate Housewives and err... some other program that get better ratings.

Hatcheter
April 20th, 2006, 03:44 PM
I can't find anything stating the entire production is moving from Hawaii to L.A. There was a recent article that Naveen Andrews (Sayid) bought a house in L.A. That was it.

There was speculation about sets changing. What I found was that the "Losties" all moved back to the beach because the Cave set needed to be broken down so they could expand the Hatch set. There are rumors that they need more interior set space that they can't get in Hawaii, but that wouldn't stop them from the exterior location shots. They are on an island and therefore do need to film outside. The cost for this show is very high so maybe they are toying with filming all the interior and flashback scenes in L.A.

They did film some of the pilot episode in LA, befor they moved production to Hawaii. All the stuff on the plane, IIRC. Dunno if they moved that set to Hawaii for later filming, or went back to LA to shoot later scenes on the plane (particularly the season finale).

Nyarlathotep
April 22nd, 2006, 08:56 AM
Ok, well I can't find it again... it was a random link I found on a google search so I probably shouldn't have put much credence in it. I think it was on a site like tvtome or something.

howie2000slc
April 23rd, 2006, 08:27 PM
he did look a bit beat up....but i couldn't decide if he was diseased or just abused.


i think that he had leaves on his face.. he was sweeting a lot after running through the jungle, then passes out face down on the ground.. more likely than not some leaves just stuck to his face.. i could be wrong but thats what it looked like to me.

Bernard was being very irrational in this episode. because of this i could completely understand why rose would talk down to him, he was being a fool, she knew that he was capable of more than that so she told him so.. and he really was being a dick..


also if i was stranded on an island with food, water, sun, sand and surf id be pretty damn happy about it.. why rush to get off... no work, no boses, no bills. just life.. i wish i was a lostie... and the island seems to offer more excitment each week.. id be happy do nothing and enjoy the time on the island..

ItsDan
April 24th, 2006, 06:58 AM
Bernard was being very irrational in this episode.

I don't think so. I think it's irrational to have NOT found the time to build a help sign in the 60 something days they've had on the island.

Rose was talking down to him because he wasn't reading her mind and figuring out she didn't want to leave the island. She should have just told him at the start that she didn't want to leave and why.

Tok'Ra Hostess
April 24th, 2006, 07:48 AM
A nice bit of character reveal is that Rose and Bernard are newlyweds - still on their honeymoon.

As for how they are acting, here are a couple of long-time bachelors suddenly having to accomodate another person's desires, intentions and feelings. I think they are pretty realistic. :D

Morbo
April 24th, 2006, 07:50 PM
my favorite revelation in this episode is that Rose knows Locke is walking and he shouldn't be.

She's the only one.
Well besides Locke.

Hatcheter
April 25th, 2006, 06:15 AM
my favorite revelation in this episode is that Rose knows Locke is walking and he shouldn't be.

She's the only one.
Well besides Locke.

And Boone, who Locke explained his situation to. Of course, Boone won't be telling anybody else about that. ;)

Tok'Ra Hostess
April 25th, 2006, 08:08 AM
And Boone, who Locke explained his situation to. Of course, Boone won't be telling anybody else about that. ;)

And doesn't Walt know, too?

MarshAngel
April 25th, 2006, 10:48 AM
Bernard was being very irrational in this episode.

I don't think so. I think it's irrational to have NOT found the time to build a help sign in the 60 something days they've had on the island.
.

I don't think it's irrational not have tried to build a sign. So far, they've established two or people in a leadership position, the rest are mostly followers. Of the two leaders, Locke has no interest in leaving and Jack knows they were so far off course that no signs or fires are going to be much help. They did build that enormous fire, right about the time it would have mattered most. Now... it's very late, perhaps too late.

The one guy who tried to build a raft met with disaster and the island, has proven not too hard a place to live. The attempts to get a radio signal out have also met with failure.

Bernard's experience on the island has been very negative, compared to this new group he's come across. He wants off, understandably but for the others, their leaders don't appear to be doing much on that matter, and life is somewhat good, so they're complacent.

Morbo
April 25th, 2006, 02:50 PM
And doesn't Walt know, too?

possibly.

i dont' think we ever actually find out (yet) what "the secret" is that locke tells walt early in season 1.
while they are paying backgammon i think right?

Primus Commander Woden
April 29th, 2006, 02:06 AM
I liked the Jack and Kate scenes...it's about time they got closer again!

Hatcheter
April 29th, 2006, 03:24 AM
possibly.

i dont' think we ever actually find out (yet) what "the secret" is that locke tells walt early in season 1.
while they are paying backgammon i think right?

I thought the secret was just that "a miracle happened to him".

Morbo
April 29th, 2006, 01:47 PM
could be.
i really can't remember.

ItsDan
May 1st, 2006, 07:04 AM
We don't know what the secret was.

Morbo
May 1st, 2006, 07:13 PM
i didn't think so.

Catysg1
August 24th, 2006, 08:21 AM
Liked that episode :) and I understand both Rose and Bernard . Bernard was in the tail section and had a hard time with Ana lucia's group as Rose got it rather nice and easy with Jack's group . ..plus she is healed which she thinks is the Island which healed her... same as Locke .

I was happy to see those little scenes betweem Kate and Jack too :) Very cute indeed.

and I almost forgot about Michael and I hope Walt is coming back soon as well :) will be nice for Vincent .

Caty :)

rarocks24
August 24th, 2006, 10:56 AM
Liked that episode :) and I understand both Rose and Bernard . Bernard was in the tail section and had a hard time with Ana lucia's group as Rose got it rather nice and easy with Jack's group . ..plus she is healed which she thinks is the Island which healed her... same as Locke .

I was happy to see those little scenes betweem Kate and Jack too :) Very cute indeed.

and I almost forgot about Michael and I hope Walt is coming back soon as well :) will be nice for Vincent .

Caty :)
Since "?"...or was it "Three Minutes", I just couldn't stand Michael. I hope he never comes back, honestly. IMHO, he was too whiney.

Aurum
August 24th, 2006, 12:33 PM
Since "?"...or was it "Three Minutes", I just couldn't stand Michael. I hope he never comes back, honestly. IMHO, he was too whiney.

I'm pretty sure Harold Perrineau (Michael) is no longer a regular in season 3, so we will definitely being seeing way less of him. Although wether we never see him again, with a show like Lost, it's doubtful...