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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 702</FONT>
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The team returns to Jonas' homeworld when they learn that the Goa'uld are after its naquadria. When Jonas is captured by Anubis, Daniel is his only hope. (Part 2 of 2)

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jenniferhailey
May 3rd, 2004, 10:27 AM
I do not like this episode because they didn't give Jonas the send off he deserves. Corin Nemec deserved so much better than this. He came in and did such a good job and got such a lot of grief from some of the fans for it. Poor man. He did an excellent job and he deserved to go out with a BANG!

Anubis
May 3rd, 2004, 10:35 AM
It seems like such a long while I watched this episode actually. Since I'm in the UK, we started season seven in September 2003. And we managed to end the season one epiosde ahead of the US. Fingers crossed for a whole season this year!

{Yeah, like that's going to happen! lol}

SGSlugger
May 3rd, 2004, 10:48 AM
Although the action was nice as well as the story, it seemed rushed to me. Like they wanted to get rid of Jonas ASAP since Daniel was back. It would have been nice if they would have let Jonas stay on for a couple episodes so we could see him and Daniel interact.
They could have phased him out slower, seeing how they only mentioned him once throughout S7.

xathras
May 3rd, 2004, 05:19 PM
I also would have liked to see more of Jonas working with Daniel. They had excellent chemistry in their scenes together, and it would have allowed Daniel a less miraculous recovery from his amnesia.

DownFallAngel
May 4th, 2004, 03:02 PM
I would like to have known what was so important that the Tau'ri were willing to die for that red crystal. Also, what happened to that data crystal?

SGSlugger
May 4th, 2004, 03:18 PM
Spoilers.....





Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that vabluable information about naquadria was contained on that cystal. If Anubis would have gotten it, he would have been able to convert his ship into using naquadria and make it even more powerful.
I'm assuming that we either kept it ourselves for study, let the Kelowans have it, or lent it to the Tok'ra (for some odd reason :cool: )

DownFallAngel
May 4th, 2004, 04:11 PM
Why didn't we just plug it into the 303 and look at it? I mean why do we even have it if it is never mentioned again?

Selmak
July 11th, 2004, 08:26 AM
Jonas and Daniel made a good team in this episode.

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 08:42 AM
We are the only ones using Naquadriah, so why should we let the Kewlonans keep it, they've shown they'll only use it for weapons. And the tok'ra wont even help us understanding goa'uld technology. Why should we give them something like this?

KorbenDirewolf
July 11th, 2004, 12:25 PM
Well.. It was never ours to give away.

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 12:30 PM
And the Kewlonans didn't even know what it was, and they'll have no use for it the next... 20 years or so.

AgentX
July 11th, 2004, 12:33 PM
But when they do learn how to use it - they will want to.

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 12:35 PM
Ye? At that time we'll already have stable Naquadriah and/or copied all data on the crystal. Remember, we're going to share defensive technology with Kewlona. I think they want it now more then ever after Anubis payed a visit.

DownFallAngel
July 11th, 2004, 01:33 PM
That would have to depend on thier political mode at the time. Right now they are on shaky ground, having three continents and all, and not one planet.

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 01:34 PM
I believe that after Anubis showed up they'll work together.

Elwe Singollo
July 11th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Well yah, even if they said that their aren't any ships over their cities, its still their problem, so i guess they would be forced to work with each other.

AgentX
July 11th, 2004, 02:23 PM
I believe that after Anubis showed up they'll work together.

Nothing like the very real threat of complete destruction to bring a planet together.

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 02:41 PM
Nothing like the very real threat of complete destruction to bring a planet together.

MoNEY!

Elwe Singollo
July 11th, 2004, 07:40 PM
MoNEY!So your saying money brings a planet together? :D

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 07:44 PM
So your saying money brings a planet together? :D

What's your guess? Politics or some other witchcraft?

Elwe Singollo
July 11th, 2004, 11:06 PM
I think tragedy brings a nation together, but thats only a nation, for a planet, i guess world peace would bring a planet together, but sadly, not everyone shares the same views on things :S I suppose not alot of things, since not all people care for money like some people do:rolleyes:

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 08:30 PM
Anubis' spiky brain downloader is cool... is it still in Jonas' head?

marcus
July 16th, 2004, 11:12 PM
I think it was good episode and what the writers did with Jonas was good.

Jonas had always said that he joined SG1 with the goal of eventually protecting his home planet from the Goa'uld. Jonas left SG1 because he wanted to go back to his planet and participate in the negotiations to unite the three nations. He will be getting more done on his home planet, bringing peace than he would by staying with SG1. They could have just killed him off, so I think this is a good solution in order to bring Daniel back. If Jonas can help solve the problems of his home planet then he belongs there, not on earth. I'm still sad to see him go though.

Genty
August 3rd, 2004, 10:27 AM
It seemed like a case of "ooh Daniels Back... Now we've got no use for Jones whatsoever so lets just get rid of him! Ta'ra, dont let your ass hit the door on the way out etc."

If i was Mr. Nemec i would feel just slightly used....

Anubis
August 3rd, 2004, 10:59 AM
I do agree, even though he's made guest appearances later in the season, it isn't what I expected of him.

DownFallAngel
August 3rd, 2004, 11:03 AM
Jonas was a good character, but his character is really important now. Off screen that is.

KorbenDirewolf
August 3rd, 2004, 11:42 AM
Well, The producers probably made it clear to him before he signed on that he wouldn't be permanent.

Replicarter
August 15th, 2004, 09:13 AM
http://www.alphawebspace.com/~karl/GWPT.gif

Nice action episode, loved watching Anubis battle barge getting blown to pieces. Also, is it just me or does the energy things that Hat'ak's shoot sound like a demon or something going, aaaarrhhhh? I notice strange things huh?

http://www.alphawebspace.com/~karl/GWPB.gif

SeaBee
August 22nd, 2004, 02:33 AM
I really wish they could have either found a way to keep Jonas at the SGC, or found a better way for him to leave. I thought J and D worked well together, and enjoyed the byplay between the two characters. The whole ending seemed rushed,to me.

Lord Zedd
September 9th, 2004, 09:46 AM
I liked the episode Baal was in it and of course my favourite ANUBIS and daniel and jonas seem to getting allong just fine.Nice teamwork.He and O'Neill and Carter against the dead gliders wow.Too bad the X303 wasn't in it.Loved to see that but hey an X303 doesn't fit through the stargate and the mothership was in peaces but luckely Anubis could escape :D

Crazedwraith
September 13th, 2004, 07:59 AM
I like this episode. Every thing seems to wokr and flow together properly.

One gripe, I have is why does Herak shoot the Kelownian general guy? It seemed a rather pointless "look at me I'm evil, Muahahahaha!" moment.

Also every one complains that jonas' goodbyes dont show enough emotion but I think they're inline with their characters Daniel doesn't even know Jonas, Jack and Teal'c were doing ther stowic warrior stuff and sam was emotion 'n' all....

KorbenDirewolf
September 24th, 2004, 12:54 PM
If he's dead Herak doesn't have to give him whatever was promised.

greytop
October 2nd, 2004, 04:06 PM
I think it was good episode and what the writers did with Jonas was good.

Jonas had always said that he joined SG1 with the goal of eventually protecting his home planet from the Goa'uld. Jonas left SG1 because he wanted to go back to his planet and participate in the negotiations to unite the three nations. He will be getting more done on his home planet, bringing peace than he would by staying with SG1. They could have just killed him off, so I think this is a good solution in order to bring Daniel back. If Jonas can help solve the problems of his home planet then he belongs there, not on earth. I'm still sad to see him go though.

I also agree this sceniro. Also the scenes with Jonas and Daniel were very good.

When I seen the bottom of Anubis ship of the planet it looked like the bottom of the ships from Independence Day.

LMichelle
October 3rd, 2004, 06:57 PM
I liked the Jonas and Daniel scenes together, but even Jonas knew he was toast when he and Daniel were talking on the ship. Jonas talking about joining the team after Daniel was gone and now that Daniel's back . . .

The end seemed a bit rushed. It was almost like "Don't let the door hit you in the ass (or the Stargate ;) ) as you leave, Jonas." I am glad they didn't kill him off though.

Lisa Michelle

greytop
October 23rd, 2004, 09:13 PM
Did anyone notice that Jack left the explaining to Carter and Teal'c? Why?

greytop
October 25th, 2004, 12:32 PM
Though I never notice this before, until this show.

Is Jonas' left handed?

Major Fischer
November 17th, 2004, 04:03 PM
For me this episode suffers from my continued lack of emotional connections to Jonas' people.

Madeleine
November 17th, 2004, 05:50 PM
Just wondering - does *anyone* like the Kellownans? Obviously Jonas had his fans, and I know Dean Stockwell did too. But are there any people who like The Kellownans in the same way that there are fans of Nox, Aschen etc? I found them horribly dull, I'm afraid. And I can't recall anyone ever posting anything good about them.

greytop
November 18th, 2004, 02:18 AM
They are oaky but I'm not a fan of them like the other you mention. The only one I like is Jonas.

PugGate
March 6th, 2005, 09:04 AM
One question. How do they get that spiky-memory downloading ball thingy into a persons head?

Stricken
June 5th, 2005, 07:51 AM
One question. How do they get that spiky-memory downloading ball thingy into a persons head?

Good question we would never see it go in so we dont really know, maybe it goes in through the ear, or now Anubis has Asgard tech he might beam it in side!!!!!

QuiGonJohn
June 17th, 2005, 06:04 AM
I would have been OK with Jonas' send off if Jack would have shown a little more emotion. I think this would have been the perfect time for Jack to show that he really had come to accept Jonas.

AncientKnowledge
June 17th, 2005, 06:27 AM
I would have been OK with Jonas' send off if Jack woud have shown a little more emotion. I think this would have been the perfect time for Jack to show that he really had come to accept Jonas.

I agree,I think that they just sent him off,and it didn't really show the emotion and the thanks that they should have gave him,because he put alot into that team,and they give him a 'See-ya-next-week' kinda hug and send him off,I didn't like that at all! :D

JanusAncient
June 17th, 2005, 03:28 PM
I think that the send off they gave Jonas, is not different than the welcome home they gave Daniel. Jonas did bring a lot to the team, especially with the episode "Prophecy" but they were glad to have Daniel back, and sorry to see Jonas go, there were mixed emotions, so it kind of makes sense that they didn't show either one a great deal of sentiment.

skritsys
November 8th, 2005, 10:19 AM
finally got to see this ep last night and i enjoyed it.
at the end when you said they did not send jonas off very well, it seemed okay to me. there was a look from o'neill that pretty much implied that jonas will be missed, considering that daniel finally got his memory back and he was glad to have daniel back. imo, they did that scene just fine the way it came out.

captain jake
July 6th, 2006, 01:05 AM
Why did jonas leave!!!!

I just re watched this episode and it just doesn't make sense. Keep him on sg-1 or atleast on another team. I realize it was jonas's decision but why did he want to leave? He once said he thought he could do more good here on earth than he could on kelowna. What changed his mind?

Matt G
July 11th, 2006, 12:51 PM
Him being more welcome on Kelowna and that fact that he was the only Kelownan the other nations trusted.

captain jake
July 11th, 2006, 08:05 PM
But still it seemed very quick and forced when he leaved not natural at all.

Dark Falcon
July 17th, 2006, 05:05 PM
I loved the part during the fight scene where the Jaffa falls
off the balcony after getting shot by O'Neill's P90! :jack_new_anime25:

Two_L's
May 26th, 2007, 09:09 PM
Also every one complains that jonas' goodbyes dont show enough emotion but I think they're inline with their characters Daniel doesn't even know Jonas, Jack and Teal'c were doing ther stowic warrior stuff and sam was emotion 'n' all....

I think they were all in line with their characters as well, although I do wish O'Neill would have given Jonas a bit more praise.


Just wondering - does *anyone* like the Kellownans? Obviously Jonas had his fans, and I know Dean Stockwell did too. But are there any people who like The Kellownans in the same way that there are fans of Nox, Aschen etc? I found them horribly dull, I'm afraid. And I can't recall anyone ever posting anything good about them.

I loved Jonas and thought he was an awesome replacement for Daniel, just cause he was instantly likeable (for me, anyway :P). But the Kellownans, I have to admit, were never really that interesting to me and the only nice person that we met out of all of them seemed to be Jonas. The others were just fighting each other all the time.

Overall I thought the episode was pretty good, but I was very sad to see Jonas leave. :( Also, the last shot of Daniel standing in front of the Stargate was very nice. :)

cavalierlwt
September 3rd, 2007, 12:46 AM
I thought the Jonas character was interesting and worth keeping, it would have been perfect if he'd had stayed around and then became a member of Stargate Atlantis. Not that anyone on SGA sucks, but there's a few characters I could lose in place of Jonas.

heliosphere
January 22nd, 2008, 01:01 PM
I wish they could have kept Jonas on too. Everything was so rushed the way it was, and I think I would have liked it if Daniel's memory took longer to return. I think he had good chem with Jonas and they would have hit it off pretty well.

Plus it would have been interesting to see if Daniel gravitated toward him if his memories took a long time to return, because everyone else would have known how he was before and would be waiting for him to be back to normal. but Jonas didn't know him well and wouldn't have been expecting anything from him. It might have made Daniel more comfortable to not have to live up to others' expectations.

I didn't really see any problem with Jack's treatment of Jonas as he was leaving the SGC though. Seemed very Jack-like. Looking back though, the whole thing was so rushed it brought things down.

They should have expanded the Daniel-Jonas transition into an ongoing storyline and spent WAY less time on Sam's lovelife. It's like they suddenly decided they had to really dive into her relationships because she was a girl, yet there were so many other things they could have done, including working with this Daniel-Jonas dynamic.

jckfan55
January 22nd, 2008, 01:23 PM
I liked the Sam-Jonas friendship dynamic that developed over the course of S6.

Raj_2006
May 27th, 2008, 02:38 AM
What ever happened to that cystral that contained the information on Naraqudria? You know the one on Jona's home planet.

MmmmMcKAy
July 11th, 2008, 03:43 AM
I was very sad to see Jonas go.:( But at least they didn't kill him and he went out on a high note......showing himself to be the honourable man that he is.:) They could have kept his character on the show, at least as a recurring character like Jacob.

Hornet
December 28th, 2008, 12:05 AM
I too was sad to see Jonas leave after an entire season with series.

this may sounds silly, but I really wished Jonas had stayed with SGC, maybe let him go to Atlantis, I like his character

It would be cool to see him and Danial team up but hack thats probably out of the show's budget, lol.

It was really nice to see him and Danial work together.

The send off they gave him was as good as the character deserve.

But nevertheless, Season 7 opening is amazing

Iawen
January 2nd, 2009, 06:47 PM
I just rewatched this episode today. It was good, but I really wish that Daniel coming back and then Jonas leaving had been done not in the same two episodes. Not sure what all constrictions they had, but it seems to me that the writers just fell into a bit of a mind trap: Daniel's back, so Jonas is leaving, and that is how we open the season. They may not have had the money to keep Jonas on a little longer, but I think that the character of Daniel deserved a stronger welcome back, and certainly Jonas (and Corin Nemec) deserved a more significant send off, as well.

I watched the commentary with Martin Wood and Michael Shanks, and Martin Wood was saying how he wished that they'd done two episodes to bring Daniel back and then two to send Jonas off. He didn't say why they didn't, but at least he acknowledges it was done too quickly.

For the constrictions they had and everything, it was well done. The acting is really great and as I watch it, I believe how everything happens. So at least they did well in the time they had.

L E E
January 14th, 2009, 09:18 PM
I watched the commentary with Martin Wood and Michael Shanks, and Martin Wood was saying how he wished that they'd done two episodes to bring Daniel back and then two to send Jonas off. He didn't say why they didn't, but at least he acknowledges it was done too quickly.


I listened to the commentaries as well. Martin somewhat explained why they had to give up the lengthy welcome and goodbye. It is in order to keep the main story moving according to a schedule that they are following. The main story arc is about Anubis's latest attempt for power and the finding of the lost city.

Although, a good writer would have been able to incorporate these sub-plots into the main story arc throughout the entire season.

Martin was kinda making fun of Daniel's memory. Daniel's got problems remembering SG1 but he knows how to operate goauld computers and doors.

Dinoman
October 23rd, 2009, 05:05 PM
It was sad to see Jonas off so quickly, too. Just when he started to gain trust and confidence from Jack and the other team members he has to leave and go back to his chaotic home world. I really like him and I think there is much more to develop on Jonas' character.

mrscopterdoc
March 24th, 2010, 04:08 PM
I was very sad to see Jonas go.:( But at least they didn't kill him and he went out on a high note......showing himself to be the honourable man that he is.:) They could have kept his character on the show, at least as a recurring character like Jacob.

I agree.

asdf1239
April 13th, 2010, 11:33 PM
great episode

maneth
October 20th, 2010, 09:45 AM
Great ep, and while I'm very happy Daniel Jackson's back, losing Jonas Quinn was just too bad.

zainea13
December 19th, 2011, 12:08 AM
Great ep, and while I'm very happy Daniel Jackson's back, losing Jonas Quinn was just too bad.

I agree. Jonas had become such a great fit. And honestly, having seen various seasons 3 or 4 or more times, and having skipped season 6 usually because I loved Daniel so much. I actually like Jonas Quinn more than I like Daniel Jackson, he is more care free, and up lifting, whereas Daniel sometimes gets very confrontational and less appealing. But I can't think of a single time where I didn't love Jonas! So so sad to see him go, and I feel like it was brushed off too easily.


I thought the Jonas character was interesting and worth keeping, it would have been perfect if he'd had stayed around and then became a member of Stargate Atlantis. Not that anyone on SGA sucks, but there's a few characters I could lose in place of Jonas.

I like this idea, and others too. Jonas definitely would have been better than Lt. Ford. Goodness was he bad! (yeah I'll catch flak for that) But, some pointed out the good Daniel and Jonas teamwork, I think that would have been great. Even if after this episode Daniel was still having trouble remembering so they kept Jonas on to help him but Jonas said he wanted to return home after his work with Daniel was done, to hand off the torch a little better. And also to make it easier to let Jonas go.

Also, I know its too late to change it of course. But I wish it would have been different and we would have seen Jonas as often as we see Jacob.

As a memento:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbwI2-nJ0Tw

Dave2
December 21st, 2011, 04:05 PM
Really great episode, but the departure of Jonas Quinn is a loss. He is a great balance to Daniel in so many ways as I wrote previously.
If Yu was the very first symbiote to make it to a System Lord, the question arises how did the he come up with the idea of system lord in the first place and how did he get there? And did SG1 retrieve the crystal? I think I last remember seeing it roll on the floor.
And if Anubis used the same device on Jonas that he used on Thor, then why wasn't Jonas's consciousness downloaded and destroyed when the ship was destroyed by Baal?

zainea13
December 21st, 2011, 06:15 PM
Really great episode, but the departure of Jonas Quinn is a loss. He is a great balance to Daniel in so many ways as I wrote previously.
If Yu was the very first symbiote to make it to a System Lord, the question arises how did the he come up with the idea of system lord in the first place and how did he get there? And did SG1 retrieve the crystal? I think I last remember seeing it roll on the floor.
And if Anubis used the same device on Jonas that he used on Thor, then why wasn't Jonas's consciousness downloaded and destroyed when the ship was destroyed by Baal?

I think Yu was just the oldest alive Goa'uld, not the first of all. And Thor was fighting the mind probe and maybe purposefully downloaded himself because his body was weak. Plus he was trying to help out O'Niell And Teal'c escape through the system of the ship so maybe something happened where he got into the ship, whereas Jonas, while advanced, isn't as advanced as Thor. And I don't know about the crystal, maybe we are to assume it was broken in the battle.

LeftHandedGuitarist
January 10th, 2012, 11:52 PM
I'm very sad to see Jonas go, as others have said. He was a fantastic addition to the team, and I think at the least he should have become a recurring character along the lines of Bra'tac/Martouf/Jacob. Back when these episodes were new, I remember I wasn't his biggest fan due to being bitter over the loss of Daniel, but this rewatch has allowed me to see how much fun he was to have around.

I thought Homecoming was a good episode, but not quite as enjoyable as Fallen. Daniel settles back into his role in SG-1 a little too quickly and easily; I think the memory-loss should have been highlighted a bit more and his reintegration should have been a bit more of a struggle and could have been played over several episodes.

Kelowna is an interesting place, and I enjoyed the visit here a lot more than in Shadow Play. I feel like Anubis, as a character, has become somewhat weakened by this point in the show, and he comes across a bit more as the bland cliche villain Jack is always describing him as. In contrast, Yu has become one of the most interesting Goa'uld characters, and he along with Ba'al represent a far better choice of bad guy for future stories.

RATING: 7.5 out of 10

Dave2
January 12th, 2012, 08:19 AM
When you start watching Season 9 you'll really wish Daniel had died permanently and Jonas had replaced him the same way Cameron replaced O'Neill.....


I'm very sad to see Jonas go, as others have said. He was a fantastic addition to the team, and I think at the least he should have become a recurring character along the lines of Bra'tac/Martouf/Jacob. Back when these episodes were new, I remember I wasn't his biggest fan due to being bitter over the loss of Daniel, but this rewatch has allowed me to see how much fun he was to have around.

I thought Homecoming was a good episode, but not quite as enjoyable as Fallen. Daniel settles back into his role in SG-1 a little too quickly and easily; I think the memory-loss should have been highlighted a bit more and his reintegration should have been a bit more of a struggle and could have been played over several episodes.

Kelowna is an interesting place, and I enjoyed the visit here a lot more than in Shadow Play. I feel like Anubis, as a character, has become somewhat weakened by this point in the show, and he comes across a bit more as the bland cliche villain Jack is always describing him as. In contrast, Yu has become one of the most interesting Goa'uld characters, and he along with Ba'al represent a far better choice of bad guy for future stories.

RATING: 7.5 out of 10

discodiva
January 12th, 2012, 09:49 AM
Or like some of us, he might be pleasantly surprised and thoroughly enjoy Daniel's return and subsequent appearances in this and latter seasons....horses for courses and all that....:rolleyes:


Spoiler observation for "Fallout" below...;)


Have just watched "Fallout"....I wish someone had given Jonas (and his girlfriend) a decent haircut - looks like someone ran amok with the pudding basin! :P


Deeds xx

LeftHandedGuitarist
January 12th, 2012, 10:03 AM
Hehee - this is a "rewatch". I've seen all of Stargate before ;)

discodiva
January 12th, 2012, 10:11 AM
Hehee - this is a "rewatch". I've seen all of Stargate before ;)


I know...thought I'd err on the side of caution....it was pretty awful wasn't it though?...;) :P :D


Deeds xx

Matt G
February 2nd, 2012, 01:21 PM
The SG1 marathon in a scifi themed pub/bar in London continued...

1. "Welcome home Jonas Quinn". And the story takes an interesting twist...

2. Jack had a point, banking on Ba'al was one hell of a gamble.

3. Anubis 'was' a bit cliches at times in this ep...

4. And Anubis assigns his two 'dumbest' Jaffa to the ring room...did lead to a very cool scene later on though...

5. And exit Jonas, as I said back in '06 on fairly good grounds! Daniel looked like he had a bit of fitting back in to do but...

Decent enough ep.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
February 2nd, 2012, 05:51 PM
A pretty good conclusion to the season opening 2-parter. But it was the weaker one of the 2.

I'm sad to see Jonas go, I liked him. One more episode, and the writers will ignore him for the rest of the franchise.

That whole Background music gag is really lost on the DVD, because of the lack of act breaks.

That was a funny gag, Daniel asking Jack if they get paid saving the world.

Tomorrow, Jack becomes 30 years younger.

Jae'a
February 3rd, 2012, 01:10 PM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/36019.html)

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
February 4th, 2012, 12:01 AM
after watching these two episodes and seeing all members of sg-1 interact with one another, it makes wonder how the series would've went had jonas quinn stayed on. it would've allowed them to make SG-1 a 5 member team and allowed them to develop stories around RDA's schedule even more.

Krisz
February 4th, 2012, 01:44 PM
At least Jonas bowed out with a good storyline! Saving Daniel and taking the staff blast in his place was a great moment, a fitting end to an interesting chapter of tragedy and atonement. The scenes of Jonas and Daniel working together were well written and acted, a joy to watch.

Whilst it would have been good to see Jonas more often, I think his send off here was so well done I didn't feel that Jonas was being 'shoved off stage'!!!!

Getting more insight into the politics of Jonas' home world was good too, given that we didn't see that much of it I always felt we knew quite a lot about them for some reason. It will be revisited again on two occasions in Stargate episodes, so this groundwork in the 3 episodes we have seen so far seems to have given Jonas' home world a few more problems because of that pesky Naquadria!!!

jelgate
February 5th, 2012, 04:58 PM
This episode asks the question that has been bugging me for years. Do they get paid for this job?

This episode brings mixed feelings for me. It is a nice arc developing story and the action had me interested enough. On the other hand I am sad to see Jonas go. I liked him a lot more then Daniel and I was angry that his advanced genetic code was not explored more. That said it was an interesting episode in action of SG1 trying to thrawt Anubis on Kelowna althought the Kelowan double crossing and defecting Anubis was predictible to me. Besides that nothing stands out greatly as it was the standard battling Jaffa episode. One thing I like is the full circle from Merdian where Jonas saves Daniel's life.

Lieutenant Sparrow
February 9th, 2012, 09:53 PM
And there goes Jonas :(

I'm surprised by how much more I liked him this watch.

And there goes Anubis in his flying saucer. That certainly isn't the end of him though.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
February 11th, 2012, 04:02 PM
anybody know what O'Neill meant when he told Jonas "you earned it?" was he talking about his spot on SG-1?

Seaboe Muffinchucker
February 13th, 2012, 09:19 AM
This episode asks the question that has been bugging me for years. Do they get paid for this job?

Of course they get paid. Personnel salaries contribute to why it costs so much to run the program. Whether they have time to spend any of the money is a different question.

Seaboe

Cluas
January 31st, 2013, 12:43 AM
Bye Jonas. As many have said, they could have made a great 5-member team. They almost got Anubis this time :anubis:

Falcon Horus
July 12th, 2013, 03:23 AM
Welcome home, Jonas!

And apparently the Kolonans are still idiots. Especially that military leader, but Herak showed him the true nature of the Goa'uld and their loyal Jaffa. For once, I cheered for Herak, first prime of Anubis. He's gotten enough flack from Jack...

Kali
July 12th, 2013, 08:13 AM
I was just grateful that Jonas didn't end up replacing Daniel. I actually cried when Daniel died and ascended. SG1 is awesome.

Falcon Horus
July 12th, 2013, 08:16 AM
He was replacing Daniel before. And they could have easily made it a 5-man team.

fems
July 12th, 2013, 09:27 AM
He was replacing Daniel before. And they could have easily made it a 5-man team.

I don't really see how Jonas could still be of any special use to SG-1 if Daniel came back since they both served the same purpose, but he could have been assigned to a different team (or stay on base and head up the archaeological/linguistic department or whatever) or something. Or Daniel could have just stayed away because it wasn't much of an improvement, especially in the later seasons...

*wonders what seasons 9 and 10 would have looked like with Jonas instead of Daniel...*

Falcon Horus
July 12th, 2013, 09:42 AM
True.... so he really was just a place holder... sadly. Yet, a really good one. One that I loved very much, and missed dearly afterwards.

garhkal
July 16th, 2013, 01:52 PM
For once, I cheered for Herak, first prime of Anubis. He's gotten enough flack from Jack...

Of the first primes, he did seem to be the more effective.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
July 29th, 2013, 04:21 PM
it's funny, you know i thought they were just going to shoehorn Jonas in but as i was re-watching Season six, Jack was right, Jonas did earn his place on sg-1, he may have started as a replacement for Daniel but he became his own person and he earned his place on SG-1. Much so than Mitchell and Vala. i think if Jonas stayed on through season eight, SG-1 would've still been a four-man team after Jack got promoted. Season 9 and Season 10 would probably have stayed the same but i think Jonas would've Probably left when the ori gated to langara.

Kali
July 30th, 2013, 09:18 AM
I never cared for Jonas that much, and I didn't miss him when he left. But I missed Daniel A LOT. Nearly as much as Jack..

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
August 1st, 2013, 01:19 AM
I never cared for Jonas that much, and I didn't miss him when he left. But I missed Daniel A LOT. Nearly as much as Jack..

as our favorite colonel / general once said "To each his own...or her own."

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
August 1st, 2013, 01:19 AM
I never cared for Jonas that much, and I didn't miss him when he left. But I missed Daniel A LOT. Nearly as much as Jack..

as our favorite colonel / general once said "To each his own...or her own."

madaboutdanny
August 1st, 2013, 01:06 PM
I don't really see how Jonas could still be of any special use to SG-1 if Daniel came back since...

*wonders what seasons 9 and 10 would have looked like with Jonas instead of Daniel...*

Thank god that didn't happen.

Falcon Horus
August 1st, 2013, 01:35 PM
Too bad, would have loved to see that instead of action Jackson.

Kali
August 1st, 2013, 04:16 PM
as our favorite colonel / general once said "To each his own...or her own."


Indeed. ;)

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
August 1st, 2013, 05:35 PM
i always wondered how jonas would've reacted to teal'c having hair the following season.

Cluas
August 2nd, 2013, 02:24 AM
i always wondered how jonas would've reacted to teal'c having hair the following season.

He would make some kind of joke, for sure :o

fems
August 2nd, 2013, 03:30 AM
He would make some kind of joke, for sure :o

After he'd been smiling all day because it's "the first time I see Teal'c with hair!".

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
August 5th, 2013, 08:06 AM
its funny Jonas grew on me but Mitchell for some reason i could get myself to like.

Kali
August 5th, 2013, 12:28 PM
its funny Jonas grew on me but Mitchell for some reason i could get myself to like.

I liked Mitchell, but he was no Jack O'Neill that's for sure. :D

Seaboe Muffinchucker
August 6th, 2013, 06:29 AM
I liked Mitchell, but he was no Jack O'Neill that's for sure. :D

I believe that was the point.

Seaboe

Kali
August 6th, 2013, 09:43 AM
I believe that was the point.

Seaboe

How so?

Falcon Horus
August 6th, 2013, 09:49 AM
How so?

Different actors, different characters. Mitchell's not supposed to be O'Neill.

But I guess in your case it's more about Ben Browder not being Richard Dean Anderson (talking about the man, not the character -- if I can wage a guess).

Kali
August 6th, 2013, 09:54 AM
I understand why RDA needed the time off, and had to basically quit the show. But no, his character could not be replaced. Ever. However, I did like Mitchell a lot. He was capable and not annoying like Jonas.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
August 7th, 2013, 06:22 AM
What Falcon Horus said. Cam isn't supposed to be Jack. His experiences before the gate were different, he was younger, his personality was different, his sense of humor was different.

I liked Jonas. I liked the way he was awkward at the beginning but became more confident as time passed. I liked the way Jack kept testing him (among other things, to make sure he could obey orders, since Daniel could not).

I hated the way they turned Jack into a buffoon. I appreciated his sense of humor, but they took it past the point of mere humor.

Seaboe

Kali
August 8th, 2013, 02:12 PM
What Falcon Horus said. Cam isn't supposed to be Jack. His experiences before the gate were different, he was younger, his personality was different, his sense of humor was different.

I liked Jonas. I liked the way he was awkward at the beginning but became more confident as time passed. I liked the way Jack kept testing him (among other things, to make sure he could obey orders, since Daniel could not).

I hated the way they turned Jack into a buffoon. I appreciated his sense of humor, but they took it past the point of mere humor.

Seaboe

I didn't mean that Mitchell was supposed to "be Jack," only that Jack is irreplaceable. And I think it is somewhat obvious that the producers thought he was replaceable. I hope I cleared things up. :)

myowndrownedworld
September 28th, 2013, 02:09 AM
Have to say I was glad to see the back of Jonas. I just didn't find him an interesting character. I don't know whether it was because of how he was written or how the actor played him. I didn't see any chemistry with the other three leads either.

Anja
October 1st, 2015, 12:55 PM
I noticed chemistry, and it was strange that a mentally shaken Jackson had to do the rescue work - but he succeeded. Jonas is cute and smart.

I Am Not James Spader
October 1st, 2015, 01:12 PM
Did I really see two US Airforce officers rolling their eyes and criticising a government for using a weapon of mass destruction to deter foreign aggression?

Shouldn't they have at least have explained why they know it isn't a good idea? And wasn't the bomb used in an uninhabited area?

Nirude
June 17th, 2016, 11:43 AM
Did I really see two US Airforce officers rolling their eyes and criticising a government for using a weapon of mass destruction to deter foreign aggression?

Shouldn't they have at least have explained why they know it isn't a good idea? And wasn't the bomb used in an uninhabited area?Think they went over this in two previous episodes.. and they still used the bomb *slaps forehead*. Of course the SGC/US did nothing to stop it either.. they could of helped Jonas's people set up a show of military power somehow, fire some lasers into the sky or exploded a nuke over the ocean or something - minimum damage, no fuss.

Jonas is gone. I didn't dislike him, he had his moments. Though it kind of annoyed me how they kept bringing up his special physiology/quick study thing, almost every episode he is in. And then they went no-where with it.

Anja
June 19th, 2016, 01:47 AM
Jonas is gone. I didn't dislike him, he had his moments. Though it kind of annoyed me how they kept bringing up his special physiology/quick study thing, almost every episode he is in. And then they went no-where with it.

Well, it was a good reason to make him a member of SG1.

BethHG
July 12th, 2018, 01:21 PM
Excellent episode, but really sad to see Jonas go. :(. I really feel that should have brought Jonas to Atlantis. But, at least, he is still alive and had a proper farewell. It sort of reminded me of Hail and Farewell parties when my husband was in the army-- saying goodbye to someone who is being stationed somewhere else, and greeting the person taking his/her place.

Falcon Horus
January 27th, 2019, 08:39 AM
First of all apologies for the lengthy pause between this episode and Fallen, but I contributed to Fandom Stocking on Dreamwith in the last 2 weeks of December and the first 2 of January, so I had little to no time to contribute to anything stargate related, except for writing 5 ficlets to put in stockings.

I'm back to watching. Gonna try to keep a frequency of 3 a week, but I can't promise anything since my love for stargate has cooled considerably. Plenty of other things that do bring me joy have taken its place (Doctor Who -- see signature -- and I just started watching Outlander).

Anyhow... Homecoming...

While I really enjoy the episode and the story being told, I am saddened it's Jonas Quinn's final goodbye (until we see him again in 8 for one episode). Back to Kelowna, and Daniel back on the team, like season 6 was a glitch. Jonas is now in the past.

Kelowna people are stilll squabbling among themselves. Anubis wants to be all powerful, and Ba'al gets to play too with his small army -- even if Anubis flies off into the sunset before his ship is destroyed right under his nose. Daniel and Jonas on Anubis' ship is adorkable and we're basically seeing a good solid SG-1 story.

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Who Knows
January 28th, 2019, 06:14 PM
14:54

BethHG
February 1st, 2019, 07:55 PM
13:30

Platschu
February 2nd, 2019, 02:23 PM
I believe they should have moved Jonas to Stargate : Atlantis instead of starting Ford, so we could have had a science/history "self educated" expert on the SGA expedition. It could have been a different team dynamic next to McKay and Sheppard, while he could have been used in any supporting role. But anyway I was just thinking loudly. ;)

Falcon Horus
February 2nd, 2019, 04:27 PM
I think if he had been "Ford", they would have "Forded" him all the same in Atlantis.

jelgate
February 9th, 2019, 11:43 AM
This episode is bitter sweet. For the most part I liked it seeing the return to Kelowna and the invasion of Anubis. The highlight is the Jonas' and Daniel interaction and the naive nature of the Kelownans. I'm bitter because of how the writers dropped Jonas after this episode. My bitterness makes this episode a fair with 7:42 and 12/15

Who Knows
February 17th, 2019, 09:48 PM
12.39, I am improving. Bring on the next one. http://i.imgur.com/TfTQjS6.gif