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GateWorld
February 8th, 2006, 08:40 PM
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Hurley attempts to kick his eating addiction, only to see visions of his friend from the mental institution on the island as a result. While Libby tries to support him, while Locke and the others learn something new about their prisoner.

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yaaayoubetcha
April 6th, 2006, 07:26 AM
Well that was a fairly good ep, all things considered.

Glad to see they're actually moving things along a bit.

Loved that Libby is revealed. A great idea. Wonder if they're going write recognition for both of them or if they're going to leave it as a coincidence as they so like to do.

Dave was great.

Did we know previous to this ep why Hurley was in the hospital? I don't recall the story of the collapsing deck...but don't know if that's because it was never mentioned or if i just forgot.

I loved the scene where Hurley put the beatdown on Sawyer, screaming all the names Sawyer called him, dragging him back under the tarp was just classic. Somebody was watching too many cartoons when that scene was being written. :o

I'm somewhat disappointed that 'Henry' didn't provide new info about the others, though, but at least he admitted to having been affiliated with them at one time.

Morbo
April 6th, 2006, 08:27 AM
Well Henry once again lied about the real Gale, because he was alive when the balloon got to the island. Then the others - or maybe the sickness - who knows, killed him.
So what is this false Henry Gale hiding?

If i recall correctly from season 1, and i might not be, Hurley originally said he was "volunteering" (or something like that) at the hospital. Like he wasn't crazy, but he went there anyway.

aaobuttons
April 6th, 2006, 08:46 AM
Well there goes my theory that Libby was a porn star (as for how Hurley recognized her)!

Thermonuclearboy
April 6th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Presuming that "Henry" is telling the truth now, we've learned a great deal about the Others. We've learned that Mister Friendly is not their leader, or at least that there is someone higher up that even he must answer to. We've learned that Henry is "not a bad person," which is to say, one of the people the Others "rescued" from a previous wreck or expedition. We've learned also that the Others may know the true nature of the Island - a behavioral experiment run amuck - and that they are resigned to being trapped there without hope of rescue.

Again, this all presumes that Henry is telling the truth.

Also, was Libby then lying about being a clinical psychologist? If so, what reason would she have to lie? I really hope we see a flashback from her soon.

ItsDan
April 6th, 2006, 09:44 AM
Plenty of possibilities on Libby. Perhaps she 'pulled herself' out of the gutter and went back to school. Perhaps the island 'fixed' her mental problems, and she's now saying she's a psychologist, since it's something she can 'mimic' having all that experience with it. Need to check out the 'other 48 days' again to see if she had a Locke-esque moment, discovering she wasn't dellusional (or whatever was wrong with her) anymore, had a clear mind.

Arative
April 6th, 2006, 10:18 AM
Hurley was revealed to be in the hospital before this episode, it was where he got the numbers to win the lottery.

I thought this was a good episode but surprised that Jack wasn't there distrubuting the food. I mean it probably has to last a while, not a good idea to let people just grab it and horde it. And I wonder why more people didn't question where a pallet of food came from, aren't they wondering why it is there and if someone can drop food, why can't they rescue them?

I'm not sure if anything "Henry" is saying can be taken at face value except for the part where he said he can't die because he isn't a bad person. I don't believe that he didn't input the numbers, I think that he is just messing with Locke. But I hope they are able to bring some sort of answers out of him.

Like the story with Hurley, he's turning out to be one of my favorite characters on the show and we finally get a little back story about Libby.

ItsDan
April 6th, 2006, 12:25 PM
I mean it probably has to last a while, not a good idea to let people just grab it and horde it.

They seem to be able to sustain themselves on the food they scavenge and find, otherwise they wouldn't have had their 'party' with Hurley handing out all the food.

MarshAngel
April 6th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I missed a section of this episode. How did Hurley get those numbers in the hospital? Was someone else saying them? Where did they come from.

ItsDan
April 6th, 2006, 12:34 PM
Leonard (crazy guy in the hospital, was playing Connect-4 with Hurley, appeared in a previous episode, and Hurley mentioned seeing him in the hatch in last nights ep, refering to an earlier episode. He didn't speak, he just mumbled them over and over.

MarshAngel
April 6th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Thanks much. I thought I heard someone muttering but I wasn't sure since I wasn't looking at the screen... bad habit I have.

Arative
April 6th, 2006, 01:29 PM
I mean it probably has to last a while, not a good idea to let people just grab it and horde it.

They seem to be able to sustain themselves on the food they scavenge and find, otherwise they wouldn't have had their 'party' with Hurley handing out all the food.

They have so far been able to sustain themselves but when you have a lot of people fighting over a limited amount of resouces, its going to be chaos. I would think that people might be trying to take Sawyer's Dharma Oreo like frosted cookie without wantingto trade or maybe Charlie would have beat up Hurley to get that huge jar of peanut butter to suck up to Claire. And if Jack is going to be a leader of the survivors, he's going to have to a be a leader the whole time, not just when he wants to be. Jack knew about the food, he first priority should have been get the food into the bunker and ration it out.

Thermonuclearboy
April 6th, 2006, 01:37 PM
And if Jack is going to be a leader of the survivors, he's going to have to a be a leader the whole time, not just when he wants to be. Jack knew about the food, he first priority should have been get the food into the bunker and ration it out.

Well, be fair, most people only acknowledge Jack's authority when they want to. And some not at all. And Jack's kind of got his hands full right now, wrangling a hatch full of crazy people. And a prisoner who might be the sanest one there.

ZatNKitel
April 6th, 2006, 02:52 PM
I liked the episode overall. However, did anybody else feel like with Libby being in the hospital, the writers were trying to keep the lid a bit open on that "its all a dream" concept? I really hope we dont see much of it again - because its rather overused on other shows.....

Really though- if I was on the island I'd be getting pretty pissed off about how the people aren't finding out about important things until waaay after they happen (eg capturing Henry)

Other than that I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season- although I hope Locke heals up faster than 2-3 weeks (anywhere from a couple weeks in real time to the next season and a half of LOST) so he can be part of any future trips to the "?" and or other regions on last week's map.

rarocks24
April 6th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Until we find out what is wrong with Libby, she could be in there for anything.

Hatcheter
April 6th, 2006, 03:59 PM
I loved the scene where Hurley put the beatdown on Sawyer, screaming all the names Sawyer called him, dragging him back under the tarp was just classic. Somebody was watching too many cartoons when that scene was being written. :o

Funniest scene Lost has ever done! And having Jin just standing there laughing about it made it all the better.

miss_kaylee
April 6th, 2006, 07:45 PM
I thought it was an ok eppy. We had Dave figured out pretty quick. I did love the end where we saw Libby at the hospital. I didn't see that one coming at all.

yaaayoubetcha
April 6th, 2006, 08:07 PM
We've learned that Mister Friendly is not their leader, or at least that there is someone higher up that even he must answer to.We've learned also that the Others may know the true nature of the Island



actually this was all pretty much shown revealed in the ep that centered around the med bunker. Mister Friendly was shown not to be the highest up and was made to pointedly look out the door of a room and acknowledge a superior.




Also, was Libby then lying about being a clinical psychologist? If so, what reason would she have to lie? I really hope we see a flashback from her soon.

while i doubt she's going to turn out to really have been a shrink, i've known a shrink or two that's buckled and ended up going in for a bit of therapy themselves.

yaaayoubetcha
April 6th, 2006, 08:14 PM
I liked the episode overall. However, did anybody else feel like with Libby being in the hospital, the writers were trying to keep the lid a bit open on that "its all a dream" concept? I really hope we dont see much of it again - because its rather overused on other shows....

i didn't think they were going to go that route...and don't think they're going to...

i think it's just the writers hooking a couple of the characters together as they are fond of doing.

though i did joke to my wife that if Sawyer had the lorazapam, then everybody would disappear when Hurley popped it.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
April 6th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Intersting ep, I think Hurley is the Man. Today, Attack of the Show did their weekly "Dhorkma Initiative," Lost Viewer Orientation (which they do the day after a new episode of Lost airs).

I've uploaded it, here's the link to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQwfgpfMkqY

rarocks24
April 7th, 2006, 05:21 AM
Intersting ep, I think Hurley is the Man. Today, Attack of the Show did their weekly "Dhorkma Initiative," Lost Viewer Orientation (which they do the day after a new episode of Lost airs).

I've uploaded it, here's the link to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQwfgpfMkqY
Wow! Thanx. Greened you for that.

ItsDan
April 7th, 2006, 07:46 AM
A clearer view of what's mentioned about the photo in that clip:


http://www.nomorepasting.com/lost-hurleyphoto.jpg

Arative
April 7th, 2006, 11:27 AM
[QUOTE=ItsDan]A clearer view of what's mentioned about the photo in that clip:[QUOTE]


So is the difference in the picture dilberate or just a mis-step by the production staff? I thought that usually Lost was pretty good with continuity. So now I wonder if the doctor is really just messing with Hurley for some reason.

ItsDan
April 7th, 2006, 11:43 AM
Production mistakes are usually small, like Jin's resume being off on the dates, this is pretty big...

FoolishPleasure
April 7th, 2006, 01:52 PM
I think the doctor and Dave were playing mind games with Hurley, especially after seeing the changes in the photo. Besides, the doctor did have a large painting of a tropical island hanging in his office. ;)

rarocks24
April 7th, 2006, 02:23 PM
I think the doctor and Dave are in on something, and I wonder if so is the girl at the end. I know she's a now recurring/main character, I just can't remember her name :(

ItsDan
April 7th, 2006, 02:50 PM
Her name is Libby.

rarocks24
April 7th, 2006, 03:11 PM
Her name is Libby.
Thanx.

KatG
April 7th, 2006, 03:32 PM
Intersting ep, I think Hurley is the Man. Today, Attack of the Show did their weekly "Dhorkma Initiative," Lost Viewer Orientation (which they do the day after a new episode of Lost airs).

I've uploaded it, here's the link to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQwfgpfMkqY


A clearer view of what's mentioned about the photo in that clip:

Thanks guys. That's very interesting. Not sure I like the implication, but it's interesting.


I think the doctor and Dave were playing mind games with Hurley, especially after seeing the changes in the photo. Besides, the doctor did have a large painting of a tropical island hanging in his office. ;)


I liked the episode overall. However, did anybody else feel like with Libby being in the hospital, the writers were trying to keep the lid a bit open on that "its all a dream" concept? I really hope we dont see much of it again - because its rather overused on other shows.....


Oh man. I'm hoping that isn't the case. If I watch the entire series and find out it was all Hurley's imagination, I'm going to be really, truly ticked.

rarocks24
April 7th, 2006, 04:31 PM
Thankfully, it's already been confirmed that it wasn't. Has anyone else come to the conclusion that the whole island thing is a joke, and that they can leave anytime they wanted to? All they have to do is do what they did last time, build rafts? I mean the Others got what they wanted.

howie2000slc
April 11th, 2006, 05:40 AM
oh i was so close..

"Libby and Hurley, i think the porn star angle is a bit too much, she is a shrink and Hurley was once in a hospital, she may have treated him. but anyway he recognised her.. so i doubt she knows about the money, and even if she does its not like he can get cash out at the Cave ATM.."

that was my post from (212) Fire Plus Water.

i didn't see the patient angle comming tho.. make you wonder if she really is a shrink like she said she is.. it will be interesting to see where tgat leads, but the way lost does things id say it will be sometime next season..

pastence
April 11th, 2006, 06:30 AM
what if Libby was under-cover to investigate the way patients are being treated by the doctor... she could really be a FBI agent/doctor... many possibilities...

or maybe I should just stop having a snack before bedtime and all the voices in my head will go away...

ItsDan
April 11th, 2006, 07:40 AM
They were medicating her, that's usually not a good way to be 'undercover', on psych meds. We have no reason yet to believe she was anything other than a patient.

Tok'Ra Hostess
April 11th, 2006, 11:04 AM
Thanks, NowIWillDestroyAbydos and ItsDan for those revealing tidbits! :)

So the numbers were a curse for Hurley long before he played them....

The more I see of this show, the more I'm inclined to see a Cypher style plot to it. (Cool movie with Jeremy Northam,Lucy Liu and, more importantly, David Hewlett. :) )

MB.Eddie
July 16th, 2006, 01:35 AM
This was the worst episode yet imo. So slow, and nothing much happened...

Metarock Sam
August 15th, 2006, 04:25 PM
I thought it wasa really interesting episode. They got Henry to talk and it came back to the whole 'im a good person' issue that we have had from when Goodwin was talking with Ana Lucia in The Other 48 Days. Perhaps the Others somehow know about the inside thoughts and minds of the people who are marooned on the island (perhaps throught the black smoke) and then through this they determine who is a 'good' or bad person. Im pretty certain the others do spy on them to determine their actions however this pops up more questions such as why havnt the Others attacked the people from the fuselage. Are they 'good' people. We know from their pasts that they all hold dark secrets.
Hurley is such a great character. His flashbacks are so fascinating (and are the reason I was drawn into the show in the first place). What I liked about this episode was that You couldnt really tell if Dave was an illusion or not until of course the whole Photograph business. I thought he was an illusion to begin with like Jack had the illusions of his father way back in Season 1. And although its an old idea the whole everyone is a dream or part of a dream thing even though its been used in shows before. And I loved that cliffhanger at the end with Libby. She was in that institute aswell. Perhaps we will eventually have a flashback story explaining how or why she was in the institute. Perhaps she was sick, perhaps she was a shrink who couldnt take it.
I dont know but I cant wait to find out.
This season keeps getting better and better. 10/10 again !!!

Catysg1
August 18th, 2006, 03:40 AM
Have you seen the film Gothica " with Halle Berry .She was a shrink of the Hospital and became a patient in no time . She was not really mad but they were keeping her under sedatives because of her believes . May be something like that happened to Libby ..May be she came to close to a special truth !!!!


or may be they were all mental patients when they boarded the plane except for Sawyer because he is still mental lol . Theyhave all been healed from their conditions and the flasbacks is what they remember before they got ill because to be honest all of them went through things who turned you a bit mental. May be sawyer was the only sane person on board and the Island did the opposite to him and turned him into the mental of the survivors . !!!! :

Caty :)

The Prophet
August 18th, 2006, 07:01 AM
Have you seen the film Gothica " with Halle Berry .She was a shrink of the Hospital and became a patient in no time . She was not really mad but they were keeping her under sedatives because of her believes . May be something like that happened to Libby ..May be she came to close to a special truth !!!!


or may be they were all mental patients when they boarded the plane except for Sawyer because he is still mental lol . Theyhave all been healed from their conditions and the flasbacks is what they remember before they got ill because to be honest all of them went through things who turned you a bit mental. May be sawyer was the only sane person on board and the Island did the opposite to him and turned him into the mental of the survivors . !!!! :

Caty :)


But, we saw them on the Plane & leading up to the it, None of them really looked 'mental', They all seemed to act normal... Plus, I doubt TPTB would use the Island Healing Device in such a large scope, 1 or 2 people, yes. But not all of them! It would take away the speciality of the Island that way.

Saywer's not Mental! He's just... misunderstood, that's all! :D

Catysg1
August 18th, 2006, 07:31 AM
Surely Sawyer can't be that sane .A sane person would never kill an innocent little creature the way he killed that little frog . He is so insensitive . Why did he kill that frog ?!!! he could have listened to Hurley and Hurley would have put it somewhere far away so that it does not disturb Sawyer's sleep any longer :S

If someone has seen "Gothica "with Hall Berry , then may be Libbie's story is very similar to Halle Berry's character . Halle Berry reacted like she was mad in the movie but in fact , she was not and May be ,Libbie like Halle Berry's character is really a psy who is misunderstood too. Hall Berry had a really hard time to prove to the mental hospital that she was not mad. They really treated her like any mental patients even though she was a very intelligent psychologist just a few days before in that same hospital . :( Could it be Lizzie's case too ?!!!

Caty :)

Mousie
August 22nd, 2006, 06:04 AM
Surely Sawyer can't be that sane .A sane person would never kill an innocent little creature the way he killed that little frog . He is so insensitive . Why did he kill that frog ?!!! he could have listened to Hurley and Hurley would have put it somewhere far away so that it does not disturb Sawyer's sleep any longer :S

Because he likes to be seen as a hard ass and saying "Hurley please take this frog away so that I can sleep comfortably" does not exactly enhance his bad boy image - an image he obviously wants to sustain as evidenced by taking as many supplies as he can and making people trade with him.

It's also probably a way of stressing Sawyers current position as 'Boss' of the group and they are using him killing the frog as a way to highlight his current attitude - 'Screw with me and this is what might happen to you'

SgaIsBad
August 30th, 2008, 11:40 AM
Libby is the one in my opinion

Devid
November 10th, 2008, 01:05 AM
Lost season two is good season......I saw this Season last week..all the Episodes of the Season are Really good......

rushy
July 16th, 2011, 09:30 AM
WTH? Dave was awesome.