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April 30th, 2004, 11:26 AM
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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 622</FONT>
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SG-1 is called to defend the people of Abydos from the Goa'uld once again when they learn that Anubis, in search of a powerful device, is about to attack.

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Anubis
May 3rd, 2004, 10:29 AM
A great episode for a season finale. It has multiple cliffhangers for example what happens to Daniel and will SG-1 see those on Abydos again? Now that Daniel is back I guess that is solves but what about Abydos? Perhaps a revisit in season eight?

Crazedwraith
May 3rd, 2004, 10:35 AM
A great episode for a season finale. It has multiple cliffhangers for example what happens to Daniel and will SG-1 see those on Abydos again? Now that Daniel is back I guess that is solves but what about Abydos? Perhaps a revisit in season eight?


Interesting, i thoguh it was generally bad with a few redeeming points.

SG-1's defense of the temple was rubbish, where were the claymores, the machinguns covering chokepoints? Where were the multiple SG teams, handing out better guns to abydoians than eight year old MP5s?

Danny giveing Anubis the Eye of Ra made no sense, he perfectly laid out the reasons why he shouldn't, the eye allowed Anubis to whip the System lords' Colective asses without it he would tens times weaker and would have been drawn into a runnig conflict wear they would have been properly well matched.

And last but not at all least: The ascension of the abydonians was a complete and utter cop-out.

On the plus side it did have some funny lighter moments.

"Is trhat my stuff?"

And the Jack/Danny interaction at the beginning.

jenniferhailey
May 3rd, 2004, 11:19 AM
Although it is a good episode, Full Circle is nothing more.

It would have been a lame ending to Stargate. Thank god it went on for Season 7 and 8 and hopefully nine.

Thank god this wasn't the end!

DownFallAngel
May 3rd, 2004, 01:18 PM
Whatever happened to those "Eye Of Ra x 07" anyway?

Crazedwraith
May 3rd, 2004, 01:23 PM
Whatever happened to those "Eye Of Ra x 07" anyway?

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May 5th, 2004, 01:55 PM
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We assume they went down with Anubis firsy supermothership when Ba'als fleet blew it to kingdom come in "Fallen"

Weren't they smashed in the flashback from the photon torpedo down the exhaust port? I believe that was the plan, although my memory is hazy; there was a little, ZX Spectrum computer graphic and talk of womp rats.

ShadowMaat
May 5th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Found the whole thing weak and generally frustrating and the fate of the Abydans is practically criminal. Of all the lame, pathetic, incredibly LAZY way to "solve" things...

And for all the hype about the importance of the Eyes of Ra, they sure didn't end up being all that monumental story-wise, did they? I agree that Daniel givng Anubis the Eye was an incredibly asinine thing to do and a bit arrogant to assume he'd be able to Save the Day...

Liked some of the Daniel/Jonas stuff, but in general I didn't find much to like about the ep. If it had been the series finale, I'd probably have been furious, but seeing what S7 has wrought, I almost wish it'd ended there anyway. Maybe the movie would have been a better option.

Crazedwraith
May 6th, 2004, 08:46 AM
Weren't they smashed in the flashback from the photon torpedo down the exhaust port? I believe that was the plan, although my memory is hazy; there was a little, ZX Spectrum computer graphic and talk of womp rats.


Oops your right the misslie attack destroyed their coolants causing the to melt

KorbenDirewolf
May 7th, 2004, 03:32 AM
So.. umm.. Why didn't they bother to close the door to the pyramid?

-Major Woody
May 12th, 2004, 08:19 PM
What bothered me most is that the laser sight on Carter's P-90 just happened to be red when she needed it to be. The sight used to be green up until then and since the P-90's debut in The First Ones (Ep. 408). :rolleyes:

Mr Prophet
May 13th, 2004, 05:31 AM
And for all the hype about the importance of the Eyes of Ra, they sure didn't end up being all that monumental story-wise, did they?

Actually, only one of those was the Eye of Ra; there was also the Eye of Apophis and the Eye of Tiamat. Any bidders on the others?

Lord Loz
May 13th, 2004, 07:08 AM
Actually, only one of those was the Eye of Ra; there was also the Eye of Apophis and the Eye of Tiamat. Any bidders on the others?

One was the Eye of Osiris IIRC, dont think any more were actually named.

I loved this episode, but it could have been far better. The ascension thing ruined it for me entirely, though I like to think of it that they were 'forced' to ascend by Oma. Makes it more believeable than an entire planet reaching enlightenment....

Mr Prophet
May 13th, 2004, 09:06 AM
One was the Eye of Osiris IIRC, dont think any more were actually named.

Six eyes, including the Eyes of Ra, Apophis, Osiris and Tiamat. So who would the others be. Maybe Sokar and Cronus. Or someone we never got to meet.

JakeDeuxPointZero
May 15th, 2004, 09:59 PM
I didn't read the comments yet, since I haven't seen the episode yet, but I defintely look forward to this episode! I just hope Skaara and Kasuf don't die... I always get a fear people will be killed off...

elhSG1
June 1st, 2004, 11:26 AM
Good episode, that elevator scene between Jack and Daniel was great. I did get a Star Wars feeling when Daniel confronted Anubis, don't ask me why but I just did.

Anubis
June 1st, 2004, 12:22 PM
The elevator scene at the start was great. The confront between Daniel and Anubis was a bit Star Warsified. Still a good scene. Poor old Daniel

Elwe Singollo
June 1st, 2004, 12:28 PM
The elevator scene at the start was great. The confront between Daniel and Anubis was a bit Star Warsified. Still a good scene. Poor old DanielI found the elevator scene funny, it was just great.

USS Thunderchild
June 1st, 2004, 02:43 PM
Well, the pyramids' destruction was awesome, and the sets were really impressive, but other than that, I didn't find the plot all that engrossing, and the fact that those eyes somehow gave power was pretty cheesy. I for one really liked the ending with the Abydonians, especially when Jack bends down to grab the ball, and when he looks back up, everything's vanished. Did anyone else notice that the dude who plays Skaara (I think that's his name, not sure though--from the original movie) got really chubby?

Phil

Mio
June 1st, 2004, 05:23 PM
moonshine belly?

Elwe Singollo
June 1st, 2004, 08:17 PM
Maybe he was hungry, haha...

Anubis
June 2nd, 2004, 01:07 AM
I also noticed that he had got a little chubbier but not a load

Apepi
June 2nd, 2004, 02:47 AM
Great episode, micheal shanks was great in this,and Anubis was so cool in the face of what could have been his end(if it was'nt for his weapon,,,oh,err) one thing tho,the replica of the eye of Ra that cathrine gave Daniel,was not just a bit different, but a lot different from one used in the Movie,just a little point for you to look out for. :eek:

Anubis
June 2nd, 2004, 04:53 AM
Perhaps the Eye of Ra in the movie was used for a different reason, besides what it was used for in the original film. In the film, it is a eye jewel but in Full Circle it is like a round cyrstal. Strange!

Apepi
June 2nd, 2004, 05:03 AM
Kel shek Anubis, you could be right, it was the replica that daniel was given by kathrine not the eye its self,got that Email from Sky that you wanted to look at but I'vem tried to send it to you but there is no email address for you.????? :)

Anubis
June 2nd, 2004, 05:05 AM
Hey Apepi. I'll put my email on display

Mr Prophet
June 2nd, 2004, 10:01 AM
Anubis was not cool in the face of death. He peed his robes and threw his hands up in a futile effort to defend himself. He was so rattled he even blabbed to Herak that it wasn't him who stopped Daniel; if he'd been with it at all he'd have been all: "Yep; One True God, right here." He was only strutting before that because he underestimated Daniel. Osiris had probably told him Daniel was a wuss, so he didn't think he'd do it.

Anubis
June 2nd, 2004, 10:33 AM
What I can't figure out is why Daniel was stopped from doing what he did despite the actions that Oma done towards the end. You're quite right, Anubis guessed that he was too afraid of the consequences to do anything. He was wrong. I guess Anubis started to panic when Daniel did that

Mr Prophet
June 2nd, 2004, 03:08 PM
I still feel gipped that we never got to see anyone smash Anubis' mask in. With all that stuff about how it keeps his energy in and holds his form together, I felt sure someone would have to crack it open.

Anubis
June 3rd, 2004, 12:56 AM
My question is, if Daniel wasn't stopped by Oma, would he of actually defeated Anubis? Anubis just simply raised one hand and threw away the energy where Daniel lifted both arms just to get himself in danger


Likewise, Daniel is ascended he knows about ways of the Ancients and how they do what they do. Why didn't Daniel use that knowledge to wipe him out. Even better, if Anubis knows how to defend it there was be a way to eliminate that defense


(Spoilers, Season Seven) What about the engine room. In season seven the first and second episode where they blew up Anubis' engine room, why didn't Daniel do that. It would have been a massive explosion and quite rapidly destroyed Anubis. However, I guess The Lost City would have never been the same!

omnian
June 3rd, 2004, 01:03 AM
Well, Daniel in his ascended form couldn't do that could he? He would've been stopped and then it would've panned out the same way I think.

With regard to easily destroying Anubis though I reckon he could've had he not been stopped. I mean, if Oma can ascend an entire planet then destroying Anubis shouldn't be much of problem should it?

Torley
June 3rd, 2004, 01:04 AM
Ha, count me in as part of the "Anubis Mask-Smasher" fanclub... I even mentioned it on another thread without knowing talk about it was happening here ;)!

Yeah, I think Anubis should have a more personal death, so many major Goa'uld have impersonal deaths, it seems to me...

What I'm wondering about this episode is, why would Anubis do this:

Breaking his vow to Jackson, Anubis now moves to destroy Abydos. But Daniel is there to stop him. Using the power of the ascended, he tries to throw a burst of energy at Anubis -- but is stopped and pulled away. Anubis confesses to Herak that it was not his doing; Oma Desala or the others must have stopped him.

Why would he confess this to Herak instead of taking credit? It diminishes his "image" as a "god". Sounds like an odd case of humility.

Anubis
June 3rd, 2004, 01:11 AM
omnian, I was talking about if Daniel was not stopped from doing what he was going to do. I still think he should have been able to destroy Anubis then suffer the consequences. The only consequence is descension and that's about it. Big deal. Oh yes and a little memory loss. I think I'd take that risk

omnian
June 3rd, 2004, 02:53 AM
omnian, I was talking about if Daniel was not stopped from doing what he was going to do. I still think he should have been able to destroy Anubis then suffer the consequences. The only consequence is descension and that's about it. Big deal. Oh yes and a little memory loss. I think I'd take that risk

Ohhhh....well, even so it might have been part of the Others' grand plan or something mightn't it? Or maybe they knew it wouldn't have worked......oh well, we'll never know.

Anubis
June 3rd, 2004, 02:57 AM
Such a shame

Mr Prophet
June 3rd, 2004, 03:15 AM
My question is, if Daniel wasn't stopped by Oma, would he of actually defeated Anubis? Anubis just simply raised one hand and threw away the energy where Daniel lifted both arms just to get himself in danger
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Anubis raised his hand in fear, like someone might turn their shoulder to defend themselves from an explosion. The fact that the energy reversed was nothing to do with him. Oma stopped Daniel's blast; Anubis was just reacting in fear.

And I don't think it's humility that makes him admit he didn't do it; I think it's just fear and relief. He's too shaken to pull his god act together in time. As I mentioned below:


if he'd been with it at all he'd have been all: "Yep; One True God, right here."

Torley
June 3rd, 2004, 03:20 AM
Pretty interesting... sign of weakness after all ;) (if you don't count some of those melodramatic lines in that deep voice of his) Sorry I didn't see your post before for some reason -- the answer came before the question!!

Anubis
June 3rd, 2004, 07:30 AM
Good to hear that a flase god is actually afriad of that. It's a shame Oma done what she did


Here's a question. If they aren't allowed to do that energy thingy, what are they going to use it for? Is there any point of the Ancients even having that power?

omnian
June 3rd, 2004, 09:00 AM
I'm guessing they can only use their powers if their existence is threatened. Though that would be quite hard seeing as no one really knows whereabouts they are......
Or perhaps in extremely special circumstances. Quite what one of those would be I haven't a clue :)

Anubis
June 3rd, 2004, 09:16 AM
Exactly. There is no purpose on having those powers unless they can be used. And with all that power, wouldn't you want to use it? I know I would

If you've been given something you're expected to use it. OK, bad example but if you're given a computer you're at least expected to turn it on! (veyr bad example)

I guess it's a little late to find the answer now, unless it gets explained further in Atlantis. That seems more likely

Elwe Singollo
June 4th, 2004, 11:13 PM
Exactly. There is no purpose on having those powers unless they can be used. And with all that power, wouldn't you want to use it? I know I would

If you've been given something you're expected to use it. OK, bad example but if you're given a computer you're at least expected to turn it on! (veyr bad example)

I guess it's a little late to find the answer now, unless it gets explained further in Atlantis. That seems more likelyI hope they do, i was kind of 'pissed' that the ancients didnt let Daniel blow Anubis away with his powers back in season 6, then that would have saved us the problem of taking care of him in season 7, and blah, alot of things wouldn't have happened, nevermind!

Mr Prophet
June 5th, 2004, 12:23 AM
I think it was Oma who stopped Daniel, to keep him from tipping the Others off to what she'd been doing. She decided that the more subtle course was to Ascend the entire population of Abydos (as you do).

As to the 'purpose' of possessing the powers which the Others have, I figure that those are actually a side effect of Ascension, and that having discovered what Ascension entailed the Others chose not to interfere in the world which they had left behind. If they had not done so, they would have become tyrants as terrible as the Goa'uld; well-meaning oppressors, but oppressors nonetheless.

Anubis
June 5th, 2004, 01:38 AM
Oma was the one who stopped Daniel from attempting to wipe out Anubis. But my question still stands. Is there ever going to be any use of the power of the Ancients. One rule even says that they can't even talk to people like Daniel did with Jack, Sam, Teal'c and Jonas! So overall, the powers are useless


Unless, perhaps they are used in defense against the Wraith. Perhaps they figured out a way to get close to the Ancients and drain their energy and their only defense is that energy beam defense!

Torley
June 5th, 2004, 01:43 AM
Is it just me or does Oma give off a "Touched By An Angel" vibe?

Anubis
June 5th, 2004, 01:53 AM
Oma gives off some strange vibes. Probably because of just who she is

Mr Prophet
June 5th, 2004, 03:38 AM
They're not just glowing octopi with superpowers; they're enlightened beings, dwelling on a different plane of existence. Their powers aren't useless, just inconsequential to them. They no longer define themselves by their ability to affect the transient material world; it's all part of being enlightened.

Essentially, they don't use their powers on this level of reality because they no longer consider it to be any of their business. If they did come and throw their weight around, they'd effectively be doing what the Goa'uld do to primitive cultures, however good their intentions. The only time they'll use their power is to stop another of their kind interfering, or presumably if it came to it in a clash between themselves and a similarly enlightened race (let's face it, 'Nubie made it, so you don't have to be any kind of pussy-cat to Ascend, whatever Daniel seems to be telling Jack in Abyss).

Anubis
June 5th, 2004, 05:07 AM
I guess you're right. Perhaps when they interfiered with races they used that power to do things such as eliminate the Gou'ald and Wraith but as they don't now there is no use for it. Makes sense

morjana
June 8th, 2004, 11:28 PM
Syndicated ratings are in for "Full Circle":

From SciFi Wire:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/

Top TEN Syndicated SciFi Shows

Stargate SG-1--------2.0 - "Full Circle" ( first run - season finale)
Andromeda------------1.9 - "The Dissonant Interval, Part II" (first run - season finale)
Mutant X-------------1.7 - "The Assault" (first run - series finale)
She Spies------------1.6
Angel----------------1.5
The X-Files----------1.5
Buffy----------------1.4
3rd Rock-------------1.3
The Outer Limits-----1.1
Beastmaster----------1.0

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 5/17/04 - 5/23/04


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The 2003-2004 Syndicated Season ends with "Stargate SG-1" the ONLY series in this syndicated category earning an average rating OVER 2.0. The season average rating for "Stargate SG-1" was a 2.22.

The next highest rated syndicated series in this category was "Mutant X" with a 1.91 season average rating, followed by "Andromeda" with a 1.90 season average rating. "She Spies" had a season average rating of 1.85, followed by "The X-Files" with a 1.50 season average rating.

"Buffy" had a 1.47 season average rating, "Angel" a 1.42 season average rating, "3rd Rock" a 1.34 season average rating and "Beastmaster" a 1.32 season average rating.



(The season average rating does not include the two weeks of ratings for 11/24/03 - 11/30/03 and 12/15/03 - 12/21/03 that were not reported by SciFi Wire.)


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Anubis
June 9th, 2004, 03:55 AM
Full Circle showed a strong rating. Although not the highest

Elwe Singollo
June 9th, 2004, 08:30 AM
Theres a difference between this Full Circle's airing, than the one aired on Scifi though.

Anubis
June 9th, 2004, 08:56 AM
Of course. The original showing and that in syndication

Elwe Singollo
June 9th, 2004, 08:57 AM
Yes, Yes... Did you like the episode?

Anubis
June 9th, 2004, 09:03 AM
I think Full Circle was great. I've mentioned this on many occasions

Elwe Singollo
June 9th, 2004, 09:04 AM
Yah, i just want to hear it again :) Juss kidding, the only thing that angered me about this episode was that its the last episode Jonas was shown in the opening credits, haha, stupid i know, but hey im angry :)

Anubis
June 9th, 2004, 09:13 AM
Well it didn't annoy me but it was a shame it was Jonas's last proper full episode. Despite the little appearances at the beginning of season seven

Elwe Singollo
June 9th, 2004, 09:15 AM
The only part i actually liked in the S7 premiere (well the parts with Jonas), was the part where Jonas and Daniel were working with each other.

Anubis
June 9th, 2004, 09:20 AM
That was good when they worked together and they made a good team



Back on topic, because this may go into a season seven thread!

Elwe Singollo
June 9th, 2004, 09:24 AM
I think i'm going to the S7 just to read:)

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Was this the last episode we saw Ska'ra?

Anubis
June 9th, 2004, 09:29 AM
You are correct. We haven't seen him since

Misty
June 24th, 2004, 08:42 PM
Actually, only one of those was the Eye of Ra; there was also the Eye of Apophis and the Eye of Tiamat. Any bidders on the others?

The Eye of MISTY!!!

It's pink and covered in glitter! :D

Mr Prophet
June 24th, 2004, 11:36 PM
The Eye of Newt; witchy favourite.

Iskandra
June 25th, 2004, 04:03 AM
The Eye of Newt; witchy favourite.

Hey, if you pronounce that the American way, it *might* be the Egyptian goddess... :D

Anubis
June 25th, 2004, 04:15 AM
Eye of Misty? lol

Misty
June 25th, 2004, 10:45 PM
Eye of Misty? lol

Yeah, I thought that was a good one.

Anubis
June 26th, 2004, 12:01 AM
How about ME. Well, not me, but the Eye of Anubis! lol

That would be great if there was one and Anubis couldn't even get hold of his own 'eye'! :D

Selmak
July 11th, 2004, 07:42 AM
I love the anubis/daniel fight scene.

Anubis
July 11th, 2004, 07:43 AM
I agree. Such a wonderful scene. I loved that

Coder
July 12th, 2004, 02:13 PM
No one thought of the Star Wars connection? :) I couldn't help but seeing Obi Wan take on Darth Vader there :).

Mio
July 12th, 2004, 04:58 PM
No one thought of the Star Wars connection? :) I couldn't help but seeing Obi Wan take on Darth Vader there :).
Eh....I don't see it...but then again, I'm not a Star Wars fan :)

AgentX
July 12th, 2004, 05:14 PM
I never thought of that particular Star Wars connection in this episode. The only slight SW hint I got was when Daniel and Anubis were clashing - at that moment I thought of Dooku vs. Yoda, with all the hand motions and stuff.

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 11:18 PM
I didn't see a Star Wars moment. If it was, then Obi Wan and Dooku

Elwe Singollo
July 12th, 2004, 11:46 PM
Probably because im not a big ole Star Wars fan, i just saw the two standing their, haha, with Daniel about to blow him away, sadly being blown away first prevented him from accomplishing that, maybe i'll go watch some Star Wars movies :)

Coder
July 13th, 2004, 02:40 AM
He.. I guess I'm too old, eh? :) If you've seen the original Star Wars movie you'd know what I mean. There are several references to it in Stargate. Anubis is like a Darth Vader clone.

Anthro Girl
July 13th, 2004, 02:48 AM
He.. I guess I'm too old, eh? :) If you've seen the original Star Wars movie you'd know what I mean. There are several references to it in Stargate. Anubis is like a Darth Vader clone.
You must mean that there are several references in Stargate to Star Wars, right? ;) Yeah, the scene between Daniel/Anubis was a typical showdown between the two powerful beings, but it didn't remind me of DV/OW off the bat. There are lots of references in Full Circle and Fallen (and a lot of S7, actually) to Star Wars. RCC has said as much...

Coder
July 13th, 2004, 07:51 AM
There are several references to it in Stargate. Anubis is like a Darth Vader clone.

poor it-usage, but it's there ;)

Yeah, in the first episode of season 7, when Carter and O'Niell is in the x303 you get that "Deathstar" attack feeling.. O'Niell even goes as far as saying that he thought the call sign would be Red Leader, just like in Luke's squadron attacking the Deathstar. "Red Five standing by" :).

Anthro Girl
July 13th, 2004, 07:57 AM
poor it-usage, but it's there ;)
Gottit. You're right. A four-day battle of raging insomnia has done a number on my reeding kompreehenshun. ;)

I do enjoy the references to Star Wars and Star Trek (and I'm sure there are others I've missed). The fact that SG doesn't take itself too seriously is one of the main draws for me. :D

Anubis
July 13th, 2004, 11:14 PM
Even with these little 'bits' taken from others and developed into the Stargate world, I still enjoy the showdown between the two

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 07:59 PM
To bad Oma or "The others" stopped him and striped his close off and threw him on an alien planet. If Anubis and Danny really fought it would be cool.

Anubis
July 22nd, 2004, 07:51 AM
Personally, it would have been the best battle on Stargate, so far I think at the time!

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 08:22 PM
I'm sure no one would disagree with that... it would be SO AWSOME!

Anubis
July 27th, 2004, 01:10 AM
It would have been great, and hopefully it is still to come!

Crazedwraith
July 27th, 2004, 03:23 AM
To bad Oma or "The others" stopped him and striped his close off and threw him on an alien planet. If Anubis and Danny really fought it would be cool.


No it wouldn't. Danny would have just thrown the Glowballs at Anubis. He would have gone "Arrrgggggghhhhhh" and died. The End.

Anubis
July 27th, 2004, 04:27 AM
I think Anubis might have actually put up a good fight. He might have been strong enough the stop the energy and blow it away (maybe) ;)

Crazedwraith
July 27th, 2004, 07:01 AM
Wekk your entitled to your opinio but unless your the REAL Anubis :p, I'm still gonna think Anubis was betting Danny didn't have the balls to defiy the other ascended people and do anything to him.

Anubis
July 27th, 2004, 08:09 AM
I am the real Anubis. Bow before your master or I'll set my kull warriors upon you!

Crazedwraith
July 27th, 2004, 10:19 AM
Bah! I'm Crazedwraith, I bow to no man! Send your silly Kulls home before my loyal Ewoks break out the modified TERs.

Anubis
July 27th, 2004, 10:29 AM
These kull warriors have been upgraded and theres guaranteed no way you can destroy them. You are my prisioner. Take action, if you dare. :D

VirtualCLD
July 27th, 2004, 10:47 AM
A little OT there guys. :D Anubis, do you just go around to every thread posting like mad? It seems like you have to put in some word, even if it' only a couple.

Anyway, back on topicish, I think Daniel would have had a tough time, since obviously the combined ascended Ancients failed to do something as simple as descend Anubis, how was Daniel alone going to stop him? I still find this whole, "We won't stop Anubis becasue technically he's on a coporeal plane of existance, even though he's still in energy form" a load or crock from Ancients.

Anubis
July 27th, 2004, 10:49 AM
*no, i don't just go round. i put in my best effort! lol * :D


Daniel would have won I think because Anubis isn't fully ascended and Daniel would have known some tatics that Anubis didn't. He would have put up a good fight, but who knows it may have been a easy victory for either of them!

Crazedwraith
July 27th, 2004, 10:51 AM
Excuse me? There is absoutly no evidence for Anubis having any powers what so ever. He needed a cloak just to stop himself going poof in a burst of energy for crying out loud. Why would he need to relie on anceint tech if he ascened powers?

VirtualCLD
July 27th, 2004, 10:56 AM
Excuse me? There is absoutly no evidence for Anubis having any powers what so ever. He needed a cloak just to stop himself going poof in a burst of energy for crying out loud. Why would he need to relie on anceint tech if he ascened powers?
I really can't answer that with some Season 8 Lockdown spoilers, so I won't.

Anubis
July 27th, 2004, 01:59 PM
Anubis's cloak helps his form stay intact. Who knows what he might be capable of, if he attempted to!

Genty
July 28th, 2004, 09:52 AM
Taking into consideration the fact that this episode was supposedly going to be the last ever SG-1 eppy ever when it was written.

I was, personally, very disapointed in it... It just didnt add up...

Anubis
July 28th, 2004, 11:42 AM
I do agree that if it was the last episode ever, then it would have been a shabby ending. Otherwise it was pretty decent.

DownFallAngel
July 28th, 2004, 02:36 PM
Anubis would have won. He has been around alot longer.

aschen
July 28th, 2004, 02:38 PM
I'm hoping they'll find a way to get rid of Anubis at some point. These Goa'ulds just don't seem to ever wanna die, do they?

DownFallAngel
July 28th, 2004, 02:50 PM
Season 8 SPOILERS


HIGHLIGHT TO VIEW

In LOCKDOWN (803), ANubis has come back in a spirt sort of form. It is explained that his clothes along with his mask kept his form intact. Now he is just a spirt of energy. He body hops throughout the SGC, and then dials out. He thinks he is heading for his homeworld, where he has a spare suit, but Sam changed the address to an iceworld, and ANubis is trapped inside a Russian soldier, for....well we don't know how long.

Anubis
July 29th, 2004, 12:39 AM
Lockdown is great and has some good Anubis action! I don't want to see Anubis gone, even though he's been around for some time!

DownFallAngel
July 29th, 2004, 06:38 AM
His voice and overall character traits are trully well thoughtout. I liked him alot. Probably one of my ffavorite villians next to the Joker and the Predator.

Anubis
July 29th, 2004, 06:46 AM
I agree. I enjoy David Palffy as Sokar and more so as Anubis. If only Sokar could have stayed on longer.

DownFallAngel
July 29th, 2004, 08:14 AM
How did he die again?

Anubis
July 29th, 2004, 08:16 AM
Sokar? Apophis killed him! ;)

DownFallAngel
July 29th, 2004, 08:22 AM
Uh no. You're wrong there buddy.

HIGHLIGHT TO VIEW

When the Tok'ra blew up Ne'Tu, Sokar's ship was caught in the blast, and it is beleived that he died within the blast.

Anubis
July 29th, 2004, 08:29 AM
Oh yes. I'm remembering now. It's been a while! ;)

Crazedwraith
July 29th, 2004, 11:18 AM
Anubis would have won. He has been around alot longer.
You mean in a full circle Danny/Anubis fight? Lets pit a very powerful ascended being vs. an Half-ascened being whoose powers are what? He has aqaut, aside form Lockdown which i haven't seen and what limited spoilers ive read point to him possible having powers of possecion. Which would do him no good what so ever in a brawl.

Face it. If Oma hadn't stepped in Danny would have crushed Anubis like a bug. *SQUISH* thats one dead goa'uld.

DownFallAngel
July 29th, 2004, 11:20 AM
I think because Daniel was still holding onto his emotions as a human, he would have lost. Also, I think Anubis still would have won IMO.

Crazedwraith
July 29th, 2004, 11:43 AM
I think because Daniel was still holding onto his emotions as a human, he would have lost. Also, I think Anubis still would have won IMO.

How? What CAN Anubis do to Daniel? Bugger all as far as I can see.

VirtualCLD
July 29th, 2004, 11:45 AM
Well, again, all I can say to you CW is wait and watch Season 8. Which so far, by the way, is inconclusive, so you have a point. As far as you or I can tell, Nuby's got nothing. We'll just have to wait and see if that's true or not.

Anubis
July 29th, 2004, 12:02 PM
I agree. I think Anubis might know a couple of ticks, but maybe not enough to wipe out Daniel from existance. Maybe to give him a couple of cuts and bruises! :D

VirtualCLD
July 29th, 2004, 12:37 PM
As much as an ascended being can get cuts and bruises.

Anubis
July 29th, 2004, 01:35 PM
lol Yeah, as if it could happen. if a huge energy wave in your face can't hurt you, what can?

Elwe Singollo
July 29th, 2004, 01:51 PM
Harsh words? ;)

Anubis
July 30th, 2004, 12:39 AM
Not even that could hurt Anubis

VirtualCLD
July 30th, 2004, 05:20 AM
Maybe not. Maybe Anubis was picked on as a larva, that's why he's got this whole evil meglomaniac complex going. He's just insecure with himself.

Oops, spelled Anubis as Snubis. You know I kinda like that. Snubis!

Anubis
July 30th, 2004, 05:33 AM
It easily done. Hmmm, perhaps Snabis is a sister? :D

DownFallAngel
July 30th, 2004, 03:14 PM
That name reminds me of Samus for some reason.

Anubis
July 31st, 2004, 12:37 AM
Ok, I don't have a clue why! lol

DownFallAngel
July 31st, 2004, 07:37 AM
Samus...Snabis.....kinda sounds the same.

Anubis
July 31st, 2004, 07:38 AM
Sounds, but doesn't look! ;)

SeaBee
September 19th, 2004, 09:03 AM
I'm not sure about this episode. I've watched it a few times now, and I enjoy it from an action point of view. But the ep. feels a bit disjointed, almost as if two or three stories were linked together, and I don't really like the ending. I think it would have worked better if they hadn't been able to reconnect to Abydos.

LMichelle
September 19th, 2004, 08:13 PM
First of all, loved the Jack/Daniel banter in the elevator. "No, wait, let me tell it. . ." :p

Perhaps Oma was testing Daniel since the planet in jeopardy was Abydos, and, of course, Daniel has to help the Abydonians.

I was waiting for Anubis to say "young Jedi" to Daniel. A bit too Luke Skywalker/Darth Vaderish shameless rip off. No, wait it reminded me more of when Luke, clad in robes, went to speak with Jabba to negotiate the release of Leia and everyone. Sorry, getting off track.

I did enjoy Ascended Daniel. :)

Lisa Michelle

lord-anubis
September 19th, 2004, 08:50 PM
i wonder what happen to all the eyes after anubis was beaten

Anubis
September 19th, 2004, 10:58 PM
i wonder what happen to all the eyes after anubis was beaten



I'm guessing they would have just all been destroyed when the ship was, perhaps not the weapon itself, but the enitre ship?

Daniel's Sister
December 21st, 2004, 09:04 AM
Sorry to interupt this wonderfull conversation, but who thought the part (just incase, highlight)where Jack says to Daniel, 'Hi Daniel.' ect, ect,ect, was funny? That was one of the best parts of this episode

So else liked that part?

Again, sorry I interupted your conversation. ;)

Anubis
December 21st, 2004, 10:50 AM
Sorry to interupt this wonderfull conversation, but who thought the part (just incase, highlight)where Jack says to Daniel, 'Hi Daniel.' ect, ect,ect, was funny? That was one of the best parts of this episode

So else liked that part?

Again, sorry I interupted your conversation. ;)



The conversation sort of ended in September! ;) No worries. :D (Plus there's no need for spoiler space in the episode thread)


But the elevator scene was great. :)

Daniel's Sister
December 23rd, 2004, 11:40 AM
Well I havent really been able to keep up with the conversation. My bro keeps on hogging the computer. And my dad has been home for the last two-weeks. so this is really the second time I've been able to get on.
And I just wanted to make sure that I didn't do any spoilers. ;)

Anubis
December 23rd, 2004, 12:59 PM
Don't worry any spoilers for this ep can be posted in here, because it is the official thread for the episode. It's the same for them all. ;) Just include spoiler warnings if you're referring to other episodes. :)

Oma Desala
January 9th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Actually I have seen up to Season 4-5 on DVD and I was hooked. Then randomly recorded episodes off TV using Tivo. When I saw this episode I was really excited and it left a lot of questions unanswered. I was so excited that I jumped online and read the entire 7x1 episode. Now I ordered Season 6-7 on DVD so I can actually follow whats going on.

aussie_gal
January 22nd, 2005, 03:29 AM
i really liked this ep i thought it was a great season ender

airfro
January 22nd, 2005, 03:43 AM
I like the fact the the all knowing all seeing ancients dont have a clue what they are doing!!

aussie_gal
January 22nd, 2005, 06:04 PM
really i think that they do know what there doing

Yu`
February 9th, 2005, 08:15 PM
Bye Abydos. I like this one apart from the whole people of Abydos being able to ascend.

Metarock Sam
February 19th, 2005, 11:19 AM
This was a Great Ending to season 6 that made up for Daniels mostly absence. IT had a star wars feel to it with the confrontation and was hoping for a joky 'I am your father ' But Still a great show. Including the destruction of the Pyramid and the classic Elevator Scene I give it 10/10. However it didn't make all events come to a Full Circle even though the episode name suggests it. :S Kinda Confusing.

jckfan55
February 19th, 2005, 11:24 AM
However it didn't make all events come to a Full Circle even though the episode name suggests it. :S Kinda Confusing.
Except that they went back to where it all started--Abydos. I thought it was very sad at the end.

SilverRider
February 22nd, 2005, 10:56 PM
Actulyl they did make the full circle, they closed the current circle to start a new one...Hunt for the lost City.

Anubis345
March 23rd, 2005, 04:25 PM
i think this is a cool ep becasue you get to see Anubis's giant super weapon ship for the first time and also something i learnes was that they did not know that there was going to be a season7

Metarock Sam
March 24th, 2005, 07:02 AM
How couldAnubis get the eye of Tiamat wasn't it destroyed in S5's 'The Tomb'.

QuiGonJohn
June 16th, 2005, 04:52 AM
I liked this episode. I'd seen Season 8 when it aired and a few times they showed that bit with Daniel trying to fight Anubis, it was good to see it in context. I will miss that Abydos is no longer there, (at least no people, no Stargate). I guess it's good that Oma ascended them, so at least they weren't all killed.

What is the "really good Vancouver location" mentioned in the production notes?

Stricken
June 17th, 2005, 03:16 AM
Great Episode, action, sadness, humor, this was a classic Stargate Epsidoe
What annoy'd me was it was a shame it was Jonas's last proper full episode. Despite the little appearances at the beginning of season seven and the other episode in Season 7

briguy213
July 13th, 2005, 01:32 PM
This is one of my favorite episodes and I cant wait to see it tonight!!!

sg1 volgman
July 13th, 2005, 01:42 PM
How couldAnubis get the eye of Tiamat wasn't it destroyed in S5's 'The Tomb'.
obviously somehow he did because he got all 7 eyes...

MIGater
July 31st, 2005, 09:30 AM
This was the episode that got me interested in Stargate SG-1. I had been watching Stargate Atlantis from the begining but not sg-1. I had seen the movie and loved it and when I saw this rerun on scifi (the first sg-1 episode I ever saw) I tied in the two stories of the ancients (Atlantis) and the goa'uld (movie/SG-1) and started watching SG-1 from the begining after I bought seasons 1-7 on DVD it was a great ride.

rac76
August 22nd, 2005, 07:21 PM
Good episode, that elevator scene between Jack and Daniel was great. I did get a Star Wars feeling when Daniel confronted Anubis, don't ask me why but I just did.

So I'm not the only one that thought or felt the same 'Star Wars' feeling. Maybe its because that ascension is similar to the force, IMO. I liked the elevator scene, that was comical and cute. I thought that Daniel was very cute in that sweater! Oh, I didn't feel the warmth between Saarka (sp?) and O'Neill when they first were reunited in the pryamid. Felt the awarkdness that was between them when they were just standing there looking at each other. Didn't really like that. Overall it was a good episode, it was enjoyable. :)

LuvsJonasQuinn
August 23rd, 2005, 12:57 AM
I loved this episode. :) My only problem with it was that Skaa'ra died and Abydos was destroyed. This episode had great flow to it. I loved the banter between the team. Hearing Jack call Jonas "son" was really nice. I loved how at the end of the episode Jonas, Jack, Sam, and Teal'c were all walking together into the sunset and to the gate to go home.

walter_MacChevron
October 31st, 2005, 08:43 PM
I loved this episode....would have been weird as a series finale (it was intended as one...to lead to a movie)

timdalton007
November 1st, 2005, 08:12 AM
A great epsiode! One of the best in the series! Some great special effects, great acting, and tying up some of the lose ends of the series. It created a couple of more and created the plot line that remains the best in the show's history and led to the two best episodes of the series: The Lost City.

timdalton007

Beatrice Otter
November 1st, 2005, 06:38 PM
So I'm not the only one that thought or felt the same 'Star Wars' feeling. Maybe its because that ascension is similar to the force, IMO. I liked the elevator scene, that was comical and cute. I thought that Daniel was very cute in that sweater! Oh, I didn't feel the warmth between Saarka (sp?) and O'Neill when they first were reunited in the pryamid. Felt the awarkdness that was between them when they were just standing there looking at each other. Didn't really like that. Overall it was a good episode, it was enjoyable. :)
Heh. That's the thing about Stargate. When they steal something, they don't try and disguise it. No, they follow the old dictum that immature artists imitate, while mature artists steal. ;) Check out the goa'uld probe droid in Heroes I&II. If you're into music videos, go to the Kawoosh archive and search for Stargate Cantina. It's a series of SG clips set to a song about Star Wars. Jack is Han, T is Chewie, Sam is Leia, Daniel is Luke, Siler is R2-D2, Bra'tac is Obi-Wan, Apophis is Darth Vader, etc. Very funny.

The Signal
December 24th, 2005, 12:30 PM
Back then they thought it may be the end of SG and lets be honest, if it had been WHAT A FINALE!!! My personal favourite season finale of all time and the story was damn near flawless! Brilliant!

Daniel's_twin
January 19th, 2006, 05:20 AM
All I can say is that I am now very grateful for this episode. Without some of its screencaps, I wouldn't have been able to finish the Stargate magnet that I made. Plus, it also gave us confirmation that the Ascended people were the Ancients (I had suspected, but didn't know until this one), and it helped to set up Lost City and Atlantis. :cool:

Commander Ivanova
January 19th, 2006, 05:37 AM
If you're into music videos, go to the Kawoosh archive and search for Stargate Cantina. It's a series of SG clips set to a song about Star Wars. Jack is Han, T is Chewie, Sam is Leia, Daniel is Luke, Siler is R2-D2, Bra'tac is Obi-Wan, Apophis is Darth Vader, etc. Very funny.

You can find that vid here. Brilliant!
http://thealphasite.com/index2.php?id=videos/stargate_cantina

Thor of The Asgard
January 19th, 2006, 07:41 AM
a good episode indeed...thanks to oma...the abydos people are new ascended...how nice of daniel to offer help agenist the rules...
he really is an amazing character...
too bad he could'nt destroy anubis...the others or oma stopped him...tooooo baddddd

desert fox
July 7th, 2006, 05:53 AM
Indeed there was a distinct feeling of Star Wars in this episode. Loved the effects and firefight inside pyramid.

captain jake
July 7th, 2006, 06:00 AM
What gave the feel of star wars?

desert fox
July 7th, 2006, 06:07 AM
Daniel was dressed like old Obi-Wan Kenobi:daniel: His struggle in mothership with Anubis was similar to Force Lightining fight we have seen in Episode III and Episode VI. The whole planet of Abydos was nearly a copy of Tatooine from Episode IV.

captain jake
July 7th, 2006, 06:15 AM
Because it was a desert?

So they copied star wars when they created the tok'ra home world?

Admiral Mappalazarou
August 22nd, 2006, 11:31 PM
This is officially my new favourite episode, I loved every second of it. Daniel was definately my favrourite character in it - Jedi Danny Boy - yayy!!!

saberhagen83
August 23rd, 2006, 02:56 AM
One of my favourite episodes in the series. It has everything you would want in a SG1 episode. Brilliant! :D I think the only season finale I have enjoyed more was "Lost City".

Chaka's_Mum
August 23rd, 2006, 03:25 AM
Daniel was dressed like old Obi-Wan Kenobi:daniel: His struggle in mothership with Anubis was similar to Force Lightining fight we have seen in Episode III and Episode VI. The whole planet of Abydos was nearly a copy of Tatooine from Episode IV.

I know what you mean. I wouldn't go as far as saying that there are reffed/borrowed/ripped-off Star Wars themes in the ep, because I'm not sure there are any - at least not deliberate ones, anyway. If I'm going to be totally honest, I hadn't really seen a connection myself until I read about it on here and found that others had. However, on reflection, there are little Star Wars-y tinges here and there. It is indeed more a 'feel' than an actual deliberate setup. It may be that I'm not taking this analogy as far as some, but that's just my take on it.

Have to say that I particularly enjoyed that moment when Jack has to hand over the Eye of Ra to Herak, and can't quite let go. Saw it on Sky Two last night.:)

immhotep
August 25th, 2006, 04:35 AM
This is actually my favourate Season ending ever, it has always held a special place for me, it was the end of an era and with the abidonians gone, daniel left in limbo and a massive revelation about the Ascended it was a perfect ending for Sg1 if they had stopped here...
The Lost city was intended to be a followup movie and ive recently watched FC and then TLC in succession and it would have been a great ending.
yeah this is one of my favourate SG episodes ever, the only episode that really get to the core of SG1 S1-6 and sums everything up to this point... truely brilliant.

Leandros
February 6th, 2007, 07:51 PM
Anyone notice this silly consistency error? One moment Teal'c is firing an M249 and right after he's using an M16 with an M203 grenade launcher.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7481/wtfokeci3.jpg

garhkal
March 6th, 2007, 08:19 PM
Interesting, i thoguh it was generally bad with a few redeeming points.

SG-1's defense of the temple was rubbish, where were the claymores, the machinguns covering chokepoints? Where were the multiple SG teams, handing out better guns to abydoians than eight year old MP5s?

I agree, they should have had some more 'defenses' like a few of those 50 cal mounted MALPS like we saw in forever in a day. And with all the interaction we have had, i am surprised we don't keep a permenant mil presense there, for their defense.


Danny giveing Anubis the Eye of Ra made no sense, he perfectly laid out the reasons why he shouldn't, the eye allowed Anubis to whip the System lords' Colective asses without it he would tens times weaker and would have been drawn into a runnig conflict wear they would have been properly well matched.

That is true, i would have rather he had 'told' lord yu about the eye and that anubis had not completed it.. BUT i loved the chatter back and fourth between daniel and jack over the giving over of the eye.


And last but not at all least: The ascension of the abydonians was a complete and utter cop-out.

At first, when it happened i was 'GOOD GOLLY, has danny turned into another Oma, but later when i heard daniel saying (and smiling) "oma is watching us", i was happy... though i do admit, all being ascended was a little wierd. Kasuf and Skara i could see, being their familial ties to the group, but all... it was strange..


On the plus side it did have some funny lighter moments.

And the Jack/Danny interaction at the beginning.

My fave of those moments, was when they were inside the temple/tomb, and jack was telling daniel to dross that line. Then later when Harak (sp??) was telling the team to surrender, and jack told him "failin up i see"..


Weren't they smashed in the flashback from the photon torpedo down the exhaust port? I believe that was the plan, although my memory is hazy; there was a little, ZX Spectrum computer graphic and talk of womp rats.

IIRC that was to destory the power supply FOR the eye..


Good episode, that elevator scene between Jack and Daniel was great. I did get a Star Wars feeling when Daniel confronted Anubis, don't ask me why but I just did.

Same here, but i did love it when Harak told apophis "truely you are all mighty my lord| and apophis replied "that was not me.."

What I can't figure out is why Daniel was stopped from doing what he did despite the actions that Oma done towards the end.

Agreed. I find it strange she could ascend all those abydonians (and even keep the gate there) but could not let daniel lay the smack down on Anubis.. BUT was it her or the others that stopped him.??


I agree. I enjoy David Palffy as Sokar and more so as Anubis. If only Sokar could have stayed on longer.

Agreed. Next to Ba'al and Lord Yu, he was imo the best gou'ald... Though his death was a little cool.. blowing up his "hell" world, right on top of his 'mother ship.
Though that gets me. Sokar had a regular Hatak for his mother ship, when all the others seem to have those big ones... like anubis did..


How couldAnubis get the eye of Tiamat wasn't it destroyed in S5's 'The Tomb'.

Maybe his eye was different than the Tiamat one..


Anyone notice this silly consistency error? One moment Teal'c is firing an M249 and right after he's using an M16 with an M203 grenade launcher.


LOL... No i did not..

Two_L's
May 21st, 2007, 07:00 AM
I did get a Star Wars feeling when Daniel confronted Anubis, don't ask me why but I just did.

I've never really watched any Star Wars films, but it still definately reminded me of it. :)


Have to say that I particularly enjoyed that moment when Jack has to hand over the Eye of Ra to Herak, and can't quite let go. Saw it on Sky Two last night.:)

:lol: It was hilarious to see Jack clenching it tightly in his hand so that Herak has to pull it harder from him.

I loved this episode! The whole elevator scene at the beginning between Jack and Daniel was great. The conversation between Jack, Sam and Skaraa about going to his wedding was also pretty funny. :D It was sad that Skaraa had to die though, but at least he got to ascend. The pyramid blowing up was a really good effect and I thought the ending was really nice, where you can just see the stargate in the distance. Excellent ep!

plastic
June 19th, 2007, 01:38 AM
:jack_new_anime06::danielanime13:

i love this episode i love the bit between daniel and jonas where jonas has his stuff very funny, as well the start is very funny with daniel and jack i could not stop laughing

:lol:

J_schinderlin56
March 16th, 2008, 04:50 PM
Here's the thing that I find really interesting about this episode:

Anubus was an ascended being interfering with the lower plains of existence. According to the rules just talking to lowers is agansed the rules, but I guess blowing up entire planets isn't?

So here we have an ascended being about to blow up a planet in the lower plains then another ascended being (Daniel) tries to stop him.

Isn't Daniel the one following the rules by stopping him?

I mean if Daniel had attacked Harak or Anubus' Jaffa that would be one thing but Daniel V.S. Anubus is just One Ascended vs. another isn't it?

What's the dif between Daniel fighting Anubus and Oma doing it?

Correct me if I'm wrong somehow.

Mr Prophet
March 17th, 2008, 10:18 AM
Anubis is partly descended and has no powers beyond his ability to move from body to body, hence his panic when Daniel breaks the rules and goes for him directly.

J_schinderlin56
April 8th, 2008, 08:35 AM
So? If attacking Anubus was such a bad thing why did Oma do it? And if the others wouldn't stop Oma why would they stop Daniel?

Mr Prophet
April 8th, 2008, 08:56 AM
At that point, Anubis appeared to have fully Ascended again. Also, I think the basic principal was that it was Oma's mess, so Oma had to sort it out.

Plus, I think they just changed their minds at least once between the two episodes.

Sp!der
May 2nd, 2008, 11:17 AM
:jack:just saw it again this episodes. it is a very good one because of daniels apperance and i love anubis, hes just a full bad ass boy and it was sad that daniel could not fight him because of oma and the other ancients.
its the first time, that the "lost city" is mentioned right?!...
...sad jonas one of his last episodes. well i like daniel more...like probably everyone else here. but jonas did a good job i suppose. not good that he is not mentioned in the other episodes after season seven anymore... sad for him. but its a good episode. jack is really funny in this one.

chevron3
May 3rd, 2008, 07:19 PM
wow i loved this ep. finally we got 2 c more Anubis:cool:poor Abydos:(:(:(:(:( it makes me so sad. but anyway, this was a great season ender ep

stargatefan234
August 19th, 2008, 03:56 AM
I was just wondering if anyone noticed this where the ascended daniel without his glasses still pushes "them" up. i thouhgt that was a nice little blink and you miss it moment.

http://forum.gateworld.net/picture.php?albumid=655&pictureid=7689

Screenshot from the image gallery

L E E
August 28th, 2008, 12:05 AM
It was great to have Daniel back!

Flyboy
September 4th, 2008, 06:05 PM
This would have been a great last episode, followed by a Lost City movie.

SupremeCommanderSora
October 11th, 2008, 08:06 AM
In Full circle when Daniel attempls to "strike down" anubis his hands start to glow and it looks like he is going to shoot him with some ancient power to stike him down. When Oma Desala fights Anubis she gets locked in a never ending battle.

Why did she not just go to strike him down like Daniel was going to?

Maybe Daniel is a better fight!

http://http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/graphics/622_header.jpg

Most of that glowing light is Oma pulling him back to stop him. I just put it there to remind you of what I am talking about.

Calhoun
October 11th, 2008, 08:19 AM
In "Full Circle", Anubis knew that the "Others" (ascended Ancients etc) wouldn't allow Daniel to strike him down, so he didn't need to defend himself. In "Threads", Anubis did defend himself, and so couldn't be "struck down".

This didn't help Anubis in the long-term, however, since, in defending himself, he used the ascended powers he wasn't allowed to use, per the terms of his being chucked out of the "Ascended realm" club (they allowed Anubis to remain "partially ascended" so long as he didn't do anything he couldn't have done as a regular Goa'uld). Thus, if Anubis did ever defeat Oma, the Ancients would never allow him to be free. Indeed, the whole "never-ending battle" is likely being sustained by the Ancients, as an example to others who would break the ascended rules.

... Can you tell I've thought about this? :)

captain simms
October 11th, 2008, 08:23 AM
i think what happened was that daniel was going to strike to wipe anubis out but oma stoped him, when oma attacked anubis she couldnt use the power of the alterans because she would have been stoped for interfering maybe

SupremeCommanderSora
October 11th, 2008, 08:28 AM
Yes lol.

Anyway Anubis puts his hand in front of his umm face as if he is afraid of getting attacked and is poorly trying to defend himself, like when someone goes to punch someone in the face.

Calhoun
October 11th, 2008, 08:45 AM
Anyway Anubis puts his hand in front of his umm face as if he is afraid of getting attacked and is poorly trying to defend himself, like when someone goes to punch someone in the face.

If someone tries to punch you in the face, don't you flinch? Plus, having not been in that situation before, Anubis may not have been certain when/if the Ancients (or Oma, in this case) would intervene.

Jack_Bauer
October 11th, 2008, 08:55 AM
I think that because Daniel and Anubis were in our plane of existence at the time, Anubis wasn;t able to defend himself against Daniel's Ancient Attact because it is not something he would have been able to do as a regular Goa'uld and therefore against the rules. He is just lucky Daniel did not have the blessing of Oma and The Others, otherwise Anubis would have been f**ked.

SupremeCommanderSora
October 11th, 2008, 09:00 AM
well yeah you flinch but you also put your hand in front of your face to protect yourself. Well maybe he was going to destroy the entire ship or something lol.

Oh and no one say plot hole because its not

SupremeCommanderSora
October 11th, 2008, 09:04 AM
I think that because Daniel and Anubis were in our plane of existence at the time, Anubis wasn;t able to defend himself against Daniel's Ancient Attact because it is not something he would have been able to do as a regular Goa'uld and therefore against the rules. He is just lucky Daniel did not have the blessing of Oma and The Others, otherwise Anubis would have been f**ked.

I was thinking that but then i thought Oma has all the time in the universe so why would she just not wait for him to go back to our plain of existence.

Jack_Bauer
October 11th, 2008, 05:32 PM
I was thinking that but then i thought Oma has all the time in the universe so why would she just not wait for him to go back to our plain of existence.

Well she too didn;t have the blessing of the Others. She was one to 'walk the fine line' while Daniel crossed it and had to be punished.

RononXSpecialist
November 6th, 2008, 03:49 AM
Great episode, Daniel brought out his badass side in this xD "No one will harm the people of Abydos". STUPID ULMA!!!!!!!!

I would of liked it better if Daniel smited him right then and there would of saved alot of problems for everyone lol.

Hornet
December 24th, 2008, 07:53 AM
Its a nice episode, but thank god it didn't became the finale episode of SG1, lol.

I really thought Daniel would have attacked Anubis, somehow Anubis have the power to defend himself and escape like the bad guy leader have done so many times, but his spaceship is destroyed and the planet is saved.... unfortunately, what happened was kind of disappointing for me. All that happened is Daniel got pulled away.

was looking forward to some cool ascension power but Omar spoiled the party :(

Butlersgate
March 14th, 2009, 08:45 AM
Its a nice episode, but thank god it didn't became the finale episode of SG1, lol.

I really thought Daniel would have attacked Anubis, somehow Anubis have the power to defend himself and escape like the bad guy leader have done so many times, but his spaceship is destroyed and the planet is saved.... unfortunately, what happened was kind of disappointing for me. All that happened is Daniel got pulled away.

was looking forward to some cool ascension power but Omar spoiled the party :(

well we know that it would of been some kind of bright light that looks like an energy based weapon that would just obliterate anubis, which would of been fantastic, but then what will fans have to speculate about :O

kennythewraith
March 24th, 2009, 01:49 PM
so this is my 2nd review for amconways challenge...
first off this is a great episode and it was very funny,tons of action and of course Daniel shows up and actually does something!!!!!!!lol and what i mean by that is he decides to hell with the laws of the others and helps out the team.
my favorite scene had to be Jacks banter with Her'ak....one of his best moments in my opinion out of many.It was also nice to see Abydos and Skaara again and the whole plot of this episode keeps me hooked everytime i watch it.Daniel basically giving the finger to the ancients was great and i was truly sad when Oma stopped him from destroying Anubis.
what didnt work for me was Anubis admitting to Her'ak that he didnt destroy Daniel...very unGoa'uld like and all the abydonians being ascended....just seemed rather...uninspired.i understand Skaara ascending but i dont believe the entire Abydonian population would be able to ascend but other than those things i truly enjoyed this episode and rank it in my top 10 for SG1.

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 02:20 PM
first off this is a great episode and it was very funny,tons of action and of course Daniel shows up and actually does something!!!!!!!lol and what i mean by that is he decides to hell with the laws of the others and helps out the team.
my favorite scene had to be Jacks banter with Her'ak....one of his best moments in my opinion out of many.It was also nice to see Abydos and Skaara again and the whole plot of this episode keeps me hooked everytime i watch it.Daniel basically giving the finger to the ancients was great and i was truly sad when Oma stopped him from destroying Anubis.
what didnt work for me was Anubis admitting to Her'ak that he didnt destroy Daniel...very unGoa'uld like and all the abydonians being ascended....just seemed rather...uninspired.i understand Skaara ascending but i dont believe the entire Abydonian population would be able to ascend but other than those things i truly enjoyed this episode and rank it in my top 10 for SG1.
First off, I'm glad you chose this one--it really makes me want to watch it again. I'm still stuck in deadline hell, but I'm going to make time for this--somehow!
I loved Daniel's decision that he had to take action, that he had no choice. While I can't quite forgive Oma for stopping him, I think she did it to keep the rest of the ascended from doing something worse. Still, it bothers me that if she'd done the right thing at this point, instead of 2 years later, Abydos, and the Abydonians would still be with us.

I agree with you about Anubis's behavior not ringing true--I think some stronger reasons were necessary for it to really be believable, but that's a small point that doesn't interfere with my enjpyment of the episode.

I also agree that the ascention of the Abydonians as a solution was problematic. Ascention seems to be a concious choice. How do infants ascend? Not to mention the fact that Oma seemed to find it better to let an entire planet of non-human life be destroyed than to take action against Anubis... Hmmm.

It's about this time that the ascended stopped being more evolved good guys in my book, and became beings that were just as flawed as any other sentient life form--with a lot more power. Not bad, like the Goa'uld, but not purely good as I, and presumably Daniel, had believed when we first saw Oma with Shifu. On the other hand, Oma's willingness to fry the Jaffa on Kelb, probably should have been a hint. Funny, how it's okay to kill thousands of Jaffa, but not Anubis...

It's a great episode that provides lots of interesting things to think about. And--Oh, happy day!--Daniel's back!

EvenstarSRV
March 24th, 2009, 02:52 PM
so this is my 2nd review for amconways challenge...
first off this is a great episode and it was very funny,tons of action and of course Daniel shows up and actually does something!!!!!!!lol and what i mean by that is he decides to hell with the laws of the others and helps out the team.
my favorite scene had to be Jacks banter with Her'ak....one of his best moments in my opinion out of many.It was also nice to see Abydos and Skaara again and the whole plot of this episode keeps me hooked everytime i watch it.Daniel basically giving the finger to the ancients was great and i was truly sad when Oma stopped him from destroying Anubis.
what didnt work for me was Anubis admitting to Her'ak that he didnt destroy Daniel...very unGoa'uld like and all the abydonians being ascended....just seemed rather...uninspired.i understand Skaara ascending but i dont believe the entire Abydonian population would be able to ascend but other than those things i truly enjoyed this episode and rank it in my top 10 for SG1.

Nice review! I agree on your favorites, I liked Jack needling Her'ak, and Daniel's showdown with Anubis was quite cool, one of the iconic moments in Stargate, I think. And I always like it when the show revisits Abydos, brings back fond memories of the movie. :)

I also really liked seeing Sam, Jonas, and Daniel working together to find the Eye, and the interaction between Jack and Skarra when he died and at the end was also nice. It made me wish we'd gotten to see more of their relationship in the series.

I had the same quibbles too, Anubis not taking credit for defeating Daniel in front of Her'ak, and all of Abydos ascending, it kinda cheapened the idea of ascension for me. I also kinda wish there had been time for a small reunion scene between Sam and Daniel, since this was the first time she'd seen him since his ascension. But I did like that her first reaction was to ask if he was ok. :)



First off, I'm glad you chose this one--it really makes me want to watch it again. I'm still stuck in deadline hell, but I'm going to make time for this--somehow!
I loved Daniel's decision that he had to take action, that he had no choice. While I can't quite forgive Oma for stopping him, I think she did it to keep the rest of the ascended from doing something worse. Still, it bothers me that if she'd done the right thing at this point, instead of 2 years later, Abydos, and the Abydonians would still be with us.

I didn't think it was Oma that stopped Daniel, considering she's a bit of a rule-breaker amongst the Ancients herself. I always thought it was the Ancients as a collective that stopped him because he was breaking their rules. He had good reason to, but I don't think that mattered to them. The Ancients seem to place far more importance on their self-imposed rules of non-interference than doing the 'right' thing.



It's about this time that the ascended stopped being more evolved good guys in my book, and became beings that were just as flawed as any other sentient life form--with a lot more power. Not bad, like the Goa'uld, but not purely good as I, and presumably Daniel, had believed when we first saw Oma with Shifu. On the other hand, Oma's willingness to fry the Jaffa on Kelb, probably should have been a hint. Funny, how it's okay to kill thousands of Jaffa, but not Anubis...


I also like that the Ancients turned out to not be all purely good, just like I personally don't see the Goa'uld as all being purely bad. Shades of gray are much more fun to me. :)

My understanding of the Ancients is that, besides a few exceptions like Oma and Orlin, as a collective they're extreme sticklers for their rules and are rather intolerant of rule-breakers. Like in Ascension, they apparently had no issues with wiping out an entire civilization in order to punish Orlin's interference.

Oma broke the rules with Anubis, and her punishment is to watch him wreak havoc across the galaxy almost with impunity. And I think part of that punishment was the others not letting anyone else defeat Anubis, it had to be Oma who finally made that choice in Threads.

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 03:04 PM
My understanding of the Ancients is that, besides a few exceptions like Oma and Orlin, as a collective they're extreme sticklers for their rules and are rather intolerant of rule-breakers. Like in Ascension, they apparently had no issues with wiping out an entire civilization in order to punish Orlin's interference.
I remembered this after my post, but hadn't had time to add it, as a cat demanded my attention. Loudly. ;)
One of the things that I find interesting about the ascended is their reasons for non-interference. It doesn't seem to be to preserve life. They wipe out civilizations and were willing to see two galaxies destroyed. So what is it? What is so important that nothing is worth interfering over? Perhaps they are trying to prevent struggles between ascended being, to protect the status quo. Frankly, I can't get my head around it.

jelgate
March 24th, 2009, 03:09 PM
I remembered this after my post, but hadn't had time to add it, as a cat demanded my attention. Loudly. ;)
One of the things that I find interesting about the ascended is their reasons for non-interference. It doesn't seem to be to preserve life. They wipe out civilizations and were willing to see two galaxies destroyed. So what is it? What is so important that nothing is worth interfering over? Perhaps they are trying to prevent struggles between ascended being, to protect the status quo. Frankly, I can't get my head around it.

S9/S10
I seem to recall the Ancients rule of non-inference is so they won't be corrupt with power like the Ori. I think that was mentioned in The Pegasus Project but I am not sure

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 03:12 PM
I seem to recall the Ancients rule of non-inference is so they won't be corrupt with power like the Ori. I think that was mentioned in The Pegasus Project but I am not sure

Yeah, I noted that, but it doesn't make much sense in terms of what they are willing to allow, unless their concern is spiritual/philisophical, rather than practical. And more of a concern about thamselves than anyone else. What is the difference between letting the Ori destroy galaxies and risking corruption themselves?

EvenstarSRV
March 24th, 2009, 03:24 PM
I remembered this after my post, but hadn't had time to add it, as a cat demanded my attention. Loudly. ;)
One of the things that I find interesting about the ascended is their reasons for non-interference. It doesn't seem to be to preserve life. They wipe out civilizations and were willing to see two galaxies destroyed. So what is it? What is so important that nothing is worth interfering over? Perhaps they are trying to prevent struggles between ascended being, to protect the status quo. Frankly, I can't get my head around it.

I agree with jelgate, in spoilers just in case...

I think it was in Pegasus Project where Morgan said non-interference was at the very core of the Ancients' beliefs, it's their most important rule, what keeps them from being Ori.

So I think from their perspective, non-interference is more important than anything else, even the fate of every living thing in the universe. Because without it they lose their personal identity, and ascension at its basics is really a very personal thing, it's a spiritual choice. And I think they would have held true to that belief even to the point of annihilation by the Ori, because the philosophical matters more to them than the physical.

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 03:52 PM
So I think from their perspective, non-interference is more important than anything else, even the fate of every living thing in the universe. Because without it they lose their personal identity, and ascension at its basics is really a very personal thing, it's a spiritual choice. And I think they would have held true to that belief even to the point of annihilation by the Ori, because the philosophical matters more to them than the physical.

I agree--that's what I find problematic. It means that the rules of the ascended are entirely selfish, even to the point of finding it unnecessary to protect other beings who have the potential to ascend, who are like them, but haven't completed the journey. Only those who have actually ascended matter, not those who could ascend, or life forms who are incapable.
So if only ascension is important, as a completed reality, not a potential one, what is it that is so much more evolved about them? The ability to shed corporeal form?

Hermiiod
March 24th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Maybe they actually can't interfere but they want people to think that they are capable.

jelgate
March 24th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Maybe they actually can't interfere but they want people to think that they are capable.

But they have interferred before. Sometimes the rules are bent.

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Maybe they actually can't interfere but they want people to think that they are capable.
We know that Oma was capable of stopping Anubis.

Morgan turned out not to be capable of stoppind Adria until after her power was diminished, but that was kind of a special case.

I find it fairly despicable that the ascended were willing to see Anubis destroyed, but only if Oma did it, netting the same result, but at the expense of an entire planet.

EvenstarSRV
March 24th, 2009, 06:02 PM
I agree--that's what I find problematic. It means that the rules of the ascended are entirely selfish, even to the point of finding it unnecessary to protect other beings who have the potential to ascend, who are like them, but haven't completed the journey. Only those who have actually ascended matter, not those who could ascend, or life forms who are incapable.
So if only ascension is important, as a completed reality, not a potential one, what is it that is so much more evolved about them? The ability to shed corporeal form?

Well, I think something being 'more evolved' doesn't necessarily translate into being a more unselfish being. The Ancients still retain their original soul/essence/etc, so I think they're still as fallible as humans, still prone to selfishness, greed, arrogance, etc.

So yes, I do think the 'evolved' part of the Ancients is just their ability to shed physical form and become energy, which gives them access to the other powers. Like with Abydos ascending, or Anubis, or Adria, one apparently doesn't have to be 'good' or selfless to ascend. So it stands to reason that those who've ascended, the Ancients as a collective, could very well be rather selfish people who value the sanctity of their own rules above all else.

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 06:07 PM
Well, I think something being 'more evolved' doesn't necessarily translate into being a more unselfish being. The Ancients still retain their original soul/essence/etc, so I think they're still as fallible as humans, still prone to selfishness, greed, arrogance, etc.

So yes, I do think the 'evolved' part of the Ancients is just their ability to shed physical form and become energy, which gives them access to the other powers. Like with Abydos ascending, or Anubis, one apparently doesn't have to be 'good' or selfless to ascend. So it stands to reason that those who've ascended, the Ancients as a collective, could very well be rather selfish people who value the sanctity of their own rules above all else.

I'm afraid I agree with you completely--rather heartbreaking when you look at what Daniel thought they were in 'Maternal Instinct', his willingness to ascend 'to do more', and his dealings with them afterward as it became increasingly obvious that they weren't what he'd hoped. *sigh* Oh, Daniel...

kennythewraith
March 24th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Well, I think something being 'more evolved' doesn't necessarily translate into being a more unselfish being. The Ancients still retain their original soul/essence/etc, so I think they're still as fallible as humans, still prone to selfishness, greed, arrogance, etc.

So yes, I do think the 'evolved' part of the Ancients is just their ability to shed physical form and become energy, which gives them access to the other powers. Like with Abydos ascending, or Anubis, or Adria, one apparently doesn't have to be 'good' or selfless to ascend. So it stands to reason that those who've ascended, the Ancients as a collective, could very well be rather selfish people who value the sanctity of their own rules above all else.
i agree..just because they eveolved....dont mean they are better or any different from us...except you know...the bodyless energy thing.......
yeah finding out that being pure of heart doesnt mean you ascend and that some real bad people did cheapened the whole thing for me.


I'm afraid I agree with you completely--rather heartbreaking when you look at what Daniel thought they were in 'Maternal Instinct', his willingness to ascend 'to do more', and his dealings with them afterward as it became increasingly obvious that they weren't what he'd hoped. *sigh* Oh, Daniel...
poor guy respected them and stuck up for them but finally realized they arent wht he thought....it was really sad but also good...i cant stand the riddles and sayings Oma uses...they make no sense at all....kinda sound like bad fortunes from a fortune cookie...

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 06:23 PM
i cant stand the riddles and sayings Oma uses...they make no sense at all....kinda sound like bad fortunes from a fortune cookie...

Well, those were based on zen koans, which have a religious function in meditation (as I understand it-which is not very). This is what I found about them on the wikipedia page on Zen:


Koans often appear to be paradoxical or linguistically meaningless dialogues or questions. But to Zen Buddhists the koan is "the place and the time and the event where truth reveals itself"[21] unobstructed by the oppositions and differentiations of language. Answering a koan requires a student to let go of conceptual thinking and of the logical way we order the world, so that like creativity in art, the appropriate insight and response arises naturally and spontaneously in the mind.

kennythewraith
March 24th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Well, those were based on zen koens, which have a religious function in meditation (as I understand it-which is not very). This is what I found about them on the wikipedia page on Zen:

to quote my favorite General...."that was a waste of a perfectly good explanation" lol :jack_new_anime04:

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 06:47 PM
to quote my favorite General...."that was a waste of a perfectly good explanation" lol
Lol! Sorry. Chanelled Daniel for a minute there... There's a reason he's my favorite. ;)

EvenstarSRV
March 24th, 2009, 06:50 PM
i agree..just because they eveolved....dont mean they are better or any different from us...except you know...the bodyless energy thing.......
yeah finding out that being pure of heart doesnt mean you ascend and that some real bad people did cheapened the whole thing for me.


In a way, I actually really like the fact that achieving ascension doesn't necessarily mean that you're a better person than someone who doesn't ascend, it just meant you made a different choice. I like that being an Ancient doesn't mean you're inherently better than ordinary humans.

Because in all honesty, I'm not comfortable with thinking that, because Daniel was able to achieve ascension upon his death, he was somehow 'better' or more pure of heart or more selfless than some of those who did not ascend when they died, like Janet, Jacob, Sha're, etc. So learning the truth behind ascension made it a bit less mystical and more even-handed for me, which I liked.

kennythewraith
March 24th, 2009, 06:56 PM
Lol! Sorry. Chanelled Daniel for a minute there... There's a reason he's my favorite. ;)

lol and theres a reason Jack is my favo...wait Sams my favorite because shes....wait lets not go there...yeah theres a reason Jack is my favorite.lol

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 07:13 PM
lol and theres a reason Jack is my favo...wait Sams my favorite because shes....wait lets not go there...yeah theres a reason Jack is my favorite.lol
Bwahaha! Dang, Kenny, you make me smile!

kennythewraith
March 24th, 2009, 07:23 PM
Bwahaha! Dang, Kenny, you make me smile!

lol its what i do conway...

amconway
March 24th, 2009, 07:42 PM
In a way, I actually really like the fact that achieving ascension doesn't necessarily mean that you're a better person than someone who doesn't ascend, it just meant you made a different choice. I like that being an Ancient doesn't mean you're inherently better than ordinary humans.

Because in all honesty, I'm not comfortable with thinking that, because Daniel was able to achieve ascension upon his death, he was somehow 'better' or more pure of heart or more selfless than some of those who did not ascend when they died, like Janet, Jacob, Sha're, etc. So learning the truth behind ascension made it a bit less mystical and more even-handed for me, which I liked.

Color me unsurprised. ;)
I believe we had aspects of this discussion as it relates to the Goa'uld--but that's another episode. :)

EvenstarSRV
March 25th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Color me unsurprised. ;)
I believe we had aspects of this discussion as it relates to the Goa'uld--but that's another episode. :)

Yeah...:o

One of the things that I love most about Stargate is how down-to-earth it feels compared to other sci-fi shows like Farscape, BSG, Star Trek, etc. So the less mystical/fantastical and the more rational/realistic things are on the show, the more I enjoy it. :)

amconway
March 25th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Yeah...

One of the things that I love most about Stargate is how down-to-earth it feels compared to other sci-fi shows like Farscape, BSG, Star Trek, etc. So the less mystical/fantastical and the more rational/realistic things are on the show, the more I enjoy it.

Y'know, one of the things that I think is great about SG-1 is that events and characterization leave so much room for interpretation, and provide so much food for thought. I think that's one of the think that's partly what made it appeal to such a wide range of people and last for such a long time.

The Stig
May 15th, 2009, 01:06 PM
absolutely fantastic. poor abydos. but daniel came back which is good.

balo
June 3rd, 2009, 08:11 AM
What a great episode ending of season 6.

We have action, good acting, Daniel is back , Skaa'ra , Anubis (my favourite villain), the ancients and a bit of Star Wars.

So for me this was a classic Stargate Episode, one of the best.

Rating : 9 / 10

vzzzzzbx
June 8th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Great episode to end season 6, a few great action sequences and you can tell how at the time it was thought this was possibly the last ever episode - the ending had that kind of feeling to it with the team heading towards the gate in the sunset and the Abydonians all having been ascended. And although I am a Star Wars fan, I have to admit I didn't see any major similarities at all.

Col. Tomorian
October 20th, 2009, 05:49 PM
After the destruction of Abydos, I was left with a "What the?!?!" feeling. I thought this episode was a big middle finger to the fans. This is where I stopped watching Stargate on tv.

Tachyon
December 7th, 2009, 02:55 AM
A good episode. Knowing that this could have been the series finale, it has this "full circle" thing going on by going back to Abudos, etc. Could have worked as a series finale in that sense, but luckily we got two more good seasons after this one. :cool:

gateship15
December 7th, 2009, 11:50 AM
i like this episode. i like that the bad guy was very very hard to destroy

AresLover452
December 7th, 2009, 12:08 PM
A good episode. Knowing that this could have been the series finale, it has this "full circle" thing going on by going back to Abudos, etc. Could have worked as a series finale in that sense, but luckily we got two more good seasons after this one. :cool:


This one made me mad... Skaara and the rest dies.... major suckage right there. But I could see why the writers did it, and Yes i am glad we got two more good seasons with Jack still around.

gateship15
December 7th, 2009, 12:12 PM
i agree to all that major suckage

AresLover452
December 7th, 2009, 12:15 PM
But I did like that they went back to Abydos. That was nice.

gateship15
December 7th, 2009, 12:16 PM
yes it was back to were it started

AresLover452
December 7th, 2009, 12:30 PM
But it was still sad.

gateship15
December 7th, 2009, 05:17 PM
yes it was

DJackson
January 31st, 2010, 01:37 AM
I havnt read any comments after the 1st page, but how would a tablet containing information on an Ancient city be in the possesion of Raa before he died..... seems a bit unlikely

jelgate
January 31st, 2010, 06:57 AM
I havnt read any comments after the 1st page, but how would a tablet containing information on an Ancient city be in the possesion of Raa before he died..... seems a bit unlikely

Its what the Goa'uld do. They have taken tons of Ancient technology and adapt it for their own liking. I wouldn't be surprised that while finding some Ancient treasure Ra discovered the tablet and hid away in his secret chambar.

mrscopterdoc
March 24th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Not a bad episode. Good seeing Daniel again.

Lunaeclipse
April 28th, 2010, 07:11 AM
Okay where to start... Liked it and hated it at the same time. It was great to see Skaara again as he is one of my favourite characters, which takes me to one of the reasons I hated it.

In Pretense Skaara explains that he would've got married, had kids, grown old and died... He was freed from Klorel and never really got to do any of that stuff anyway. That sux. :( I would've liked him to at least have been able to do one of those things...except the dying part.

Good - The elevator scene was funny. The look on Jack's face was priceless as was his explination as to how funny the situation was that Daniel was there asking him for help.

Bad - Skaara gets shot and subsequently dies. :(

Good - Daniel faces Anubus. I agree with it being like Starwars. I almost expected them to pull out lightsabres. Daniel's would've been green. :)

Good - Jack negotiates with Harak :) lol so funny. Although Jack seems a little loopy... :)

Bad - Daniel looses his logic and gives the eye to the bad guy with nothing to loose.

And I thought Anubis wanted to die, but wasn't allowed because they didn't want him in 'ascention land'. He kept challenging Daniel to do it and choose a situation he knew Daniel could not resist. Then he seemed kind of annoyed when Daniel couldn't. Then he destroyed Abydos, which to me kind of seemed like another challenge for someone to stop him. Gou'ald seems to have a death wish to me.

asdf1239
May 3rd, 2010, 01:44 AM
"your time is up"
"of that you are greatly mistaken"

maneth
October 18th, 2010, 08:57 AM
Loved seeing Daniel again and finally finding out what Anubis is.

J_schinderlin56
October 25th, 2010, 11:01 AM
I'm sorry, here's what I don't get about this episode:

Anubus was ascended being effecting people on a lower plane of existance. If even talking to "Lowers" is a big violation how is destroying an entire planet not?

The way I see it Daniel was just doing his duty as an ascended being by stopping him from taking an action that affects beings on the lower planes. Why stop Daniel? It was one Ascended vs another. What's the difference in Daniel attacking Anubus and Oma attacking Anubus? They didn't stop Oma (Threads). I don't get it.

Lunaeclipse
October 25th, 2010, 12:30 PM
I'm sorry, here's what I don't get about this episode:

Anubus was ascended being effecting people on a lower plane of existance. If even talking to "Lowers" is a big violation how is destroying an entire planet not?

The way I see it Daniel was just doing his duty as an ascended being by stopping him from taking an action that affects beings on the lower planes. Why stop Daniel? It was one Ascended vs another. What's the difference in Daniel attacking Anubus and Oma attacking Anubus? They didn't stop Oma (Threads). I don't get it.

I understood Anubis to be 'half' ascended...

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
November 1st, 2010, 10:27 PM
This episode is still one of my all time favorite episodes and its a top ten favorite.

Hornet
January 30th, 2011, 04:39 PM
I'm sorry, here's what I don't get about this episode:

Anubus was ascended being effecting people on a lower plane of existance. If even talking to "Lowers" is a big violation how is destroying an entire planet not?

The way I see it Daniel was just doing his duty as an ascended being by stopping him from taking an action that affects beings on the lower planes. Why stop Daniel? It was one Ascended vs another. What's the difference in Daniel attacking Anubus and Oma attacking Anubus? They didn't stop Oma (Threads). I don't get it.

Referring to that later episode..

Apparently Anubis was allowed to run free as a punishment to Oma. At least that's how I understood it. Oma was forced to watch Anubis running around as the destructive evil he was. That's why she just kept helping others ascend after Anubis. The other Ancients probably could have stop Anubis but they choose not to.

And the "others" decided not to interfere when Oma decided to kept Anubis away for good. IMO, Daniel may have convinced them that its time Anubis be stopped, that Oma's punishment was enough


I think it was Oma who stopped Daniel herself. She was there watching the entire incident unfold.

Lunaeclipse
February 24th, 2011, 06:07 PM
For the Anubis story see the episode entitled 'Threads.'

GateGhost
October 14th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Referring to that later episode..

Apparently Anubis was allowed to run free as a punishment to Oma. At least that's how I understood it. Oma was forced to watch Anubis running around as the destructive evil he was. That's why she just kept helping others ascend after Anubis. The other Ancients probably could have stop Anubis but they choose not to.

And the "others" decided not to interfere when Oma decided to kept Anubis away for good. IMO, Daniel may have convinced them that its time Anubis be stopped, that Oma's punishment was enough


I think it was Oma who stopped Daniel herself. She was there watching the entire incident unfold.

Yeah, that is what I understand about this episode.

Lunaeclipse
November 8th, 2011, 02:31 PM
This episode is one that annoys and delights me. Yay we get to see Skaara and he is doing well. The awesome "hard core" villain comes along, and that was also kind of awesome. Then Daniel was all like "Leave my city alone" , which I also loved. And seeing that Skaara still had his warrior spirit was great to see, considering that Jack wouldn't let him help in Pretence... but I digress... Then Skaara dies, which was a low point, however he is ascended, which gives fans of the character hope that he can return one day. The end of the episode where we see that the whole planet was ascended tries to make up for the fact that it got destroyed, but it just left me a little disappointed...

garhkal
November 11th, 2011, 01:33 PM
Yeah, that is what I understand about this episode.

Which makes me wonder.. WHY oma stopped him.

Darkland
November 11th, 2011, 10:02 PM
I wonder why Oma stopped him myself - it was the only chance to finally get rid of him.

Oma basically's just handed Anubis to be more a threat then ever.

fems
November 12th, 2011, 01:39 AM
Because Daniel was interfering with the lower planes, which is a big no no when you're ascended. She basically stopped him from breaking the rules.

Snowman37
November 16th, 2011, 05:59 AM
If Oma hadn't stopped him, the others would have. They wouldn't have been as kind.

Matt G
January 30th, 2012, 02:38 PM
Not sure where I watched this first time round...

1. There was a reasonable amount of hype going into this ep, we were expecting a big Daniel vs Anubis rumble. What we got was...

2. Hammond effectively saying "Daniel's helping you guys?" Good enough.

3. Is it me or would those flame torches have been brighter than Jack's gun light.

4. The return of Herak and confirmation if it was needed that "The Other Guys" was not a dream.

5. First word of "The Lost City". Presumably TPTB were starting to get ideas about Atlantis at this time.

6. Would Daniel have kicked Anubis's butt? Probably.

7. Seeya around, Abydos, certainly an interesting way to end the season.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
January 31st, 2012, 09:25 AM
This was the greatest episode of SG-1 and the franchise as a whole. And the origins of my name.

We returned to Abydos, the place where it all began.

And once again Shanks is credited as a "Special Guest Appearance," I think it's kind of cheap, he should be credited as a "Special Guest Star."

Jack was just golden in this one. The elevator scene and the whole thing with Herak in the Pyramid.

The action was just amazing in this finale, it felt like they went over the top. Not even Reckoning can match the action in this one. I think it might be because of the sequence of the pyramid blowing up, that was seriously sick.

Other notes from the episode:

It was great to see Skaara for one last time.
Joel's music composition for the episode is, as usual, just amazing. (I want my Original Soundtrack, damn it)
So Anubis is Half human-half ascended, and he figured out how to ascend
Herak expression (and looking at the other guy) during Skaara's ascension was really interesting
I can't believe Anubis admitted he didn't pull Daniel, someone else did (probably Oma)
That was a sweet ending to the episode, might be better than the one for Thread/Moebius


Darren/David you really need to reorder the Screencap gallery (for this episode only), some caps (one at a time) are out of order, and kind of messed with me during this review

Tomorrow, the beginning of the next segment of our journey through SG-1, Season 7. Daniel got descended, what?

Krisz
January 31st, 2012, 05:33 PM
A great season ender, going back to where it all began and closing what I call the 'Egyptian' chapter of Stargate begun in the movie. Things move into 'Ancient' chapter with the race to find Ancient technology to fight Anubis and then the 'Ancient' powered Ori.

Finally found out where my Ancient Egyptian statue prop I bought in the Stargate Liquidation Sale at the studio last year made an appearance on the show. He turns up on the table in Ra's secret chamber holding a string of pearls. I was beginning to believe that he was never used and then there he was! :)

My favourite Herak and Jack moment, including this great exchange! Makes me chuckle every time.

HERAK: I am Herak.
O'NEILL: Congratulations. Failing upwards I see.

Whilst it's sad to see the destruction of Abydos, it was good to know that Oma took care of the people so allowing Daniel to keep his promise that they'd be alright. Wonder if they'll live playing football (soccer) eternally in their tent village, and even if they know that they've been 'ascended.' I suppose something like this is more accepted by them as a sort of afterlife, more than the skeptical Tau'ri would, by questioning everything!

Jae'a
February 1st, 2012, 08:59 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/35359.html)
No more Abydos.. :(
Still, I enjoy this episode.

jelgate
February 4th, 2012, 02:49 PM
I am not going to call it the best episode of SG1 like a poster a few posts above did but it sure is a good episode. I find it has everything that made SG1 great. It has a good ancient mystery. The Eye of Ra being hidden like that was a pretty clever and interesting idea. It had a bunch humor in it from the rambling about Skaara being engaged to my favoriter sharing of jabs between Jack and Herreck. I crack up when Jack mention Herreck should mention to Anubis that "he screwed up again" and Jonas subsquent question of was it necessary to antagonize him. It does good with planet battles with early SG1. I noticed how good the Death gliders evaded the rocket launchers which was a subsquent contrast to the pilot. It also gives nice plot developments with the Lost City and I remember beind shocked that the Ascended people are Ancients. It was sad to see Abydos destroyed but think it was necessary to show Anubis' power and just how much greater threat he is now. Just to up the ante to the threat SG1 faces. I always love this episode because S7 and S8 bring a decline quality before rising in S9.

garhkal
February 5th, 2012, 10:05 AM
I find its a pity Herac died.. he was one of the better jaffa warriors we have faced... over the years.

Lieutenant Sparrow
February 8th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Awesome ep. Easily in my top 10. Maybe even top 5.

Right from the start we have great humour with Jack about to get on the elevator. And the whole ep is filled with humour. The talks between Jack and Herac being the highlight.

Then there is the great action with Jack, Teal'c and the Abydonians fighting off the Jaffa. And the scenes between Daniel and Anubis. With Anubis revealing who he really is. Daniel so would have kicked his butt if he wasn't stopped. The system lords were no match for Anubis's ship that's for sure.

And lets not forget the first mention of the lost city. Can't wait for Atlantis.

Bye bye Abydos :(

Zaany
September 6th, 2012, 01:22 PM
This episode always makes me realize how much facial expressions and body language is what makes this series so good. Just look at the elevator scene between O'Neill and Daniel...

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
September 6th, 2012, 01:41 PM
i think i shed a tear when this episode aired for the first in 2003 when anubis destroyed abydos.

garhkal
September 7th, 2012, 02:58 PM
One wonders.. if Anubis had NOT been destroyed, but just delayed, and had kept the "eye of what ever it was" weapon, how effective that might have been against the Ori ships?

Raj_2006
October 2nd, 2012, 09:40 AM
I doubt with would have put up much of a fight, because the Ori were using Ascended knowledge, I think it was also mentioned that anubis was only allowed to use the knowledge he learned from being ascended or something like that. And also the ori ships was made by the collective group of the Ori and anubis was on his own. Its hard to say to be honest but would be and interesting episode.

My question, does anyone know the music theme being played when Daniels talks to jack the second time and when he appears again and when they talk about the Anicents? Its the music with the choir. Here is a vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oTszK5qv64
I have looked everywhere on the net but can't find it.

garhkal
October 2nd, 2012, 02:07 PM
IIRC it was said he could use only his ancient knowledge, if he could also have gained it as a Gou'ald.

Brother Freyr
October 4th, 2012, 09:04 PM
Does anyone know the music theme being played when Daniels talks to jack the second time and when he appears again and when they talk about the Anicents? Its the music with the choir. Here is a vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oTszK5qv64
I have looked everywhere on the net but can't find it.
I think it's original music produced for the episode.