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April 30th, 2004, 11:25 AM
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The team finds an impoverished world enslaved by a Goa'uld underlord, but their plans to free it may be compromised when Jonas experiences unexplained visions of the future.

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morjana
May 9th, 2004, 07:41 PM
"Prophecy" will premiere in Syndication the weekend of May 15/16th.

Morjana

SGSlugger
May 10th, 2004, 10:44 AM
I enjoyed this episode. Nice take on precognition.

bcmilco
May 10th, 2004, 02:00 PM
It had a trippy little ending, and I liked it. :) It was a really good Jonas piece too.

Elwe Singollo
May 10th, 2004, 02:55 PM
Very good Jonas episode :)

JakeDeuxPointZero
May 15th, 2004, 09:57 PM
I liked it... Jonas is a really cool guy... I would definitely like to see his return... I wasn't a huge fan of the season 7 episode... but I suppose it was alright.

This episode was really good. I definitely look forward to next week's season finale, marking the historical moment where I will have seen every episode, ever. Does anyone know when SciFi will be allowed to throw season 6 into the Monday rotation?

Jill_Ion
May 20th, 2004, 03:28 PM
I also thought it was a good episode, and a good episode of Jonas. I also thought it was a good episode of Dr. Frasier. She got to do some good doctoring. :)

I'm a total Syndi--watching it only in syndication, and when I buy the DVDs. I'm really looking forward to Season Six's finale next week.

poppy_popcorn
May 20th, 2004, 05:36 PM
This was a great episode! I absolutely loved it! I missed 10 minutes of it though because I was stuck babysitting lil stubborn kids who decided to watch Spongebob. Oh well, Jonas is really awesome though! I wish he was still on the team! Oh well, Daniel's cool too but they really should of kept Jonas with em for a little bit longer.

KorbenDirewolf
May 21st, 2004, 12:45 AM
Pretty good episode, another Goa'uld bites it.

SciFi will get Season 6 onces it completes the US syndication run.. Then they lose Season 7 to syndication.

Jill_Ion
May 23rd, 2004, 01:56 PM
My only prob was the Goa'uld's name was Lord Mot(t?). Sounds like he was Lord of Applesauce. Plus, that's a common name in movies. Kinda distracting.

Hey, but if that's my only prob, it's gotta be a good ep! :)

ShadowMaat
May 23rd, 2004, 02:03 PM
My only prob was the Goa'uld's name was Lord Mot(t?). Sounds like he was Lord of Applesauce. Plus, that's a common name in movies. Kinda distracting.

Can't say I'm familiar with many characters named Mot. My big distraction from the name is that I kept thinking it should be Mut. Except Mut is Egyptian and a goddess and as it turns out, Mot is also a god, from the same pantheon as Baal... and he's Baal's arch-enemy. So technically, it's right on. ;)

There's a Mott's coffee house in my home turf. GREAT little place, best iced mochas around. I could really go for one right now. Gee, thanks, Jill. :P

Loved this ep. It's my favorite Jonas ep because it shows, to me, the lengths that Jonas is willing to go to in order to do good and to prove himself. It also shows just how unworthy he still feels, even that late in the game. :(

morjana
June 2nd, 2004, 03:33 PM
Syndicated ratings are in "Prophecy":

From SciFi Wire:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/

Top TEN SciFi Syndicated Shows

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Stargate SG-1------2.2 - "Prophecy" (first run)
Andromeda----------1.8 - "The Dissonant Interval, Part I" (first run)
Mutant X-----------1.6 - "Cirque des Merveilles" (first run)
She Spies----------1.6
Buffy--------------1.5
3rd Rock-----------1.4
The Outer Limits---1.4
Angel--------------1.3
The X-Files--------1.3
Beastmaster--------1.0

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 5/10/04 - 5/16/04


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Again, syndicated sixth season "Stargate SG-1" is the ONLY series in this syndicated category to have a season average rating OVER 2.0 -- currently syndicated season season "Stargate SG-1" has a season average rating of 2.23. The next highest rated series in this category is "Mutant X" with a season average rating of 1.92.


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sgeureka
June 8th, 2004, 09:40 AM
My only prob was the Goa'uld's name was Lord Mot(t?). Sounds like he was Lord of Applesauce. Plus, that's a common name in movies. Kinda distracting.
I also had a problem with this name. I once had a friend called Tom, and since he wouldn't stop messing with my first name, I didn't have much choice but to mess with his. Mot.

Anyway, it took me ages to understand what this ep was about, and I am still not so sure whether I got it, but I liked the look-into-the-future parts, even though they were pretty confusing (well, there is always the choice to rewatch it :) ).

Anubis
June 8th, 2004, 09:48 AM
I also had a problem with the name. It was awful. Plus, he obviously wasn't a very strong ruler

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 10:23 AM
I also had a problem with the name. It was awful. Plus, he obviously wasn't a very strong rulerI agree, named sucked, rulership skills sucked, you know what, he sucked... Lord Mot, i forgot who he was impersonating, which god? Or was it even a god...

Anubis
June 8th, 2004, 10:28 AM
I don't think he was impersonating, as far as I recall. He probably wanted to be like Anubis, strong and powerful

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 10:31 AM
Oh, ok. Well i liked how Jonas got visions, although it was killing him :(

Anubis
June 8th, 2004, 10:33 AM
It was, but he was saved in the nick of time

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 10:34 AM
Yah cause he was stubborn about it, haha...

omnian
June 21st, 2004, 05:07 AM
The part in this episode where the SGC came under attack was superb! I thought it was amazing!

I did wonder what Nirrti might have done to Jonas in that genetic manipulation thingy....shame he didn't have a whole host of other abilities too.

Anubis
June 21st, 2004, 06:55 AM
I'd like to know what she actually done something instead of being told that perhaps Nirriti did something

Elwe Singollo
June 21st, 2004, 11:19 AM
I think they writers made us assume that she did, because when was the last time Jonas got visions;), so they didn't really have to flat out make one of the characters say she actually did something to Jonas, but only speculation :)

bcmilco
June 21st, 2004, 05:15 PM
didn't they show Jonas in the DNA machine in the "previously on"s? So they were implying that he was "messed" with while he was in the machine by showing that clip. ;)

Selmak
July 11th, 2004, 07:51 AM
This episode bored me.

KorbenDirewolf
July 11th, 2004, 12:08 PM
I think the question is more one of if something had been done..

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 12:18 PM
Sure she did. Why would she leave the labrat feeling left out.

Anubis
July 11th, 2004, 11:14 PM
Still, quite a good episode

AgentX
July 12th, 2004, 08:53 AM
One of the better ones from Season 6 in fact.

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 09:08 AM
I liked the fact that the revisited the Nirriti situation

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 12:19 PM
Nirrti was always cool.

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 08:05 PM
We get to see about that comment from Nirrti in Metamorphosis.

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 08:38 PM
Jonas advanced... eh? another reason I have to dislike him

DownFallAngel
September 12th, 2004, 03:11 PM
I had forgotten how good this episdoe was.

morjana
September 12th, 2004, 05:36 PM
I had forgotten how good this episdoe was.

An excellent episode.

The firefight at the alien Stargate was intense, as was the "vision" of the SGC being invaded by the Jaffa.

Did you notice that the Goa'uld device being used to blow up the SGC gateroom was the same device from "Proving Ground?" (That the SGC trainees found in the warehouse during the test?)

Wonderful performances by all involved, and I really liked the Goa'uld Mot. Liked as in liked how well the actor carried off the personification of evil.

Morjana

Lugal
September 16th, 2004, 09:24 PM
My only prob was the Goa'uld's name was Lord Mot(t?). Sounds like he was Lord of Applesauce. Plus, that's a common name in movies. Kinda distracting.

Hey, but if that's my only prob, it's gotta be a good ep! :)

I'd actually heard of Mot before, so it didn't bother me, especially when I remembered his name means "Death". Wonder if we'll meet Yam (another of Baal's enemies)?
Great episode, and gives a lot of insight into Jonas.

For more on Mot, check here (http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/mot.html)

SeaBee
September 17th, 2004, 01:21 PM
Good episode. I liked the way Jonas kept trying to stop people getting hurt, and ends up causing the injuries with his advice.

LMichelle
December 21st, 2004, 02:08 PM
This ep was okay, but at least they did something with Jonas' character. :)

Yu`
February 9th, 2005, 08:10 PM
A really good Jonas episode he really shines here.

Daniel who? :D

emily_reich
February 10th, 2005, 09:15 AM
i really enjoyed this episode :) not only a great episode for jonas, but just for a lot of the characters... having him misinterpret his visions leading to sam getting hurt (and then the look on his face when he realizes what he did...) was definately one of the best parts...

also toward the end when he forces himself to see what happens... corin did a really great job in this episode :)

one of my series faves also :)

Spiderqueen
February 28th, 2005, 09:42 PM
I really enjoyed this episode. It was an awsome episode because it showed that Jonas was willing to put his own life in harm's way to make sure he found a way to save the SGC. The acting Corin Nemec performed was also well done.



having him misinterpret his visions leading to sam getting hurt (and then the look on his face when he realizes what he did...)

That was only one of the very good parts in it. I also enjoyed Dr. Fraiser because she handled the situation superbly. She really was an awsome Doctor for everyone at the SGC, I hated the fact she was killed...

...but anyway, great episode, can't wait to see it tommorow!

jckfan55
March 1st, 2005, 04:15 PM
jonas, ... having him misinterpret his visions leading to sam getting hurt (and then the look on his face when he realizes what he did...) was definately one of the best parts...

also toward the end when he forces himself to see what happens... corin did a really great job in this episode :)


I agree. And I liked how you saw the progression of the tumor and the effect it had on him physically. Well played.

emily_reich
March 1st, 2005, 05:46 PM
excellently played :D indeed, i loved how he got worse and worse and insisted on fighting it more and more to try and save them... i always say that people who think corin can't act haven't seen this episode... :p

cuz really... it's one of my series fave actually :) and i do agree... frasier was great too :)

Grin
March 2nd, 2005, 01:17 AM
This episode actually made me respect Jonas a lot more.

Spiderqueen
March 2nd, 2005, 11:23 AM
When we first met Jonas in Meridian, I wasn't too sure about him but as Season Six began I really really enjoyed having Jonas around. This episode made me feel bad for him because he felt like he still needed to be accepted into the SGC. I think Jonas realized after this that people did care about him (well, he wasn't sure about Jack, but he discovered that in Homecoming). This also showed how much Jonas cared for the people here, which was also special. This will stay as one of my favorite episodes.

ShadowMaat
March 2nd, 2005, 11:32 AM
I think Jonas realized after this that people did care about him (well, he wasn't sure about Jack, but he discovered that in Homecoming).
Really? I never once got the feeling that Jack did more than tolerate Jonas's presence, and in Homecoming I felt that he was impatient for Jonas to leave. Very much a "don't let the iris hit you in the ass on the way out" kinda thing. But that's just me.

I did think Prophecy was a brilliant ep and showcased Corin's talents as an actor, as well as Jonas's desperate need to belong and his overwhelming desire to help and protect those around him, no matter what. :(

Matt G
March 2nd, 2005, 01:14 PM
Not dead cert where you get tha theory from Shadow. Yes, there was never the connection between Jack and Jonas that there was between Jack and Daniel but Jack's never come accross as the type who puts people he can 'tolerate at best' on his team in the first place.

Jack and San certainly saw him as more of a kid than Daniel but I don't think Jack ever had a real problem with him from Descent onwards.

ShadowMaat
March 2nd, 2005, 02:09 PM
Not a theory, that's just how I "saw" the ep. Jack may not show affection much, but he does tend to tease them and other than the bit in Descent and possibly some stuff in Full Circle, I didn't see much teasing-type stuff. Even in Prophecy he seemed... preoccupied when he visited Jonas. But I'll be the first to admit I'm heavily biased. And I also think that RDA has been acting cranky and distracted in general since the end of season 5. *shrug* Just my interpretation.

greytop
March 2nd, 2005, 02:38 PM
One of Jonas' best. I like how he figured that Nirriti was the cause. Her last legacy before she passed on.

Hex.FTB.enabled
March 2nd, 2005, 07:32 PM
I like this ep. It showcased both Jonas and Corin quite well. My only quip is that the whole Jonas-is-different-somehow thing seemed to have a lot of build-up without much explanation. (shrug) still like it though. :)

ShadowMaat
March 2nd, 2005, 07:46 PM
That's because TPTB suck. :P Nah, not quite, but they're notoriously bad at follow-through and since for whatever reason they decided to wipe his existence out of the show, it makes it a bit hard to finish his story. :(

And after events in Moebius, there's a chance Jonas never existed... Not as part of the team, anyway. Or maybe not as a surviving member...

Spiderqueen
March 2nd, 2005, 09:52 PM
HUH? Okay, first of all what's TPTB??? (Forgive me, I'm new and haven't finished reading the FAQ page yet). Second, what do you mean by this:


And after events in Moebius, there's a chance Jonas never existed... Not as part of the team, anyway. Or maybe not as a surviving member...

I'm from the US and haven't seen Moebius yet! You mean Jonas never joined SG-1 because of something in Moebius?!?!?!?!?! WHAT????

*Spiderqueen, it's time to go to your happy place...*

ShadowMaat
March 3rd, 2005, 03:44 AM
TPTB- The Powers That Be, the writers/producers of the show.

Moebius does hinky things with time and with the deep and unabiding suspicion I have of TPTB- particularly in regards to Jonas- I wouldn't put it past them to try and sneak this idea through under the guise of something else.

Spiderqueen
March 3rd, 2005, 10:27 AM
See? See? That's why you never, ever mess with time unless it's vital. Like in prophecy; Stargate Command would have been doomed if Jonas hadn't warned everyone what was going to happen. SG-1 better have had a good excuse!

;) And you're probably right; TPTB would love the opprotunity to fiddle with this for a while. Perhaps we should ask Joe Mallozzi if this is going to happen (like he'll answer that, lol).

ShadowMaat
March 3rd, 2005, 11:37 AM
I asked. :D Although I caged it in such a vague way he'll probably give us a vague answer that won't tell us anything. But at least I tried. :)

Spiderqueen
March 4th, 2005, 08:50 AM
I read your post. It's actually pretty good for vauge so I'm sure Mr. Mallozzi will answer in a not-so-vauge way. We can only cross our fingers and hope!

PugGate
May 5th, 2005, 08:21 AM
I thought this was a cool ep! Mut was funny( and yes I'm misspelling his name with the intent to make fun of him).

But if they cut out Janas's tumor, what's stopping it from growing back? It sounds like Nirrti put it into his genetic make-up.

Spiderqueen
May 5th, 2005, 08:34 AM
At the end of the episode, Dr. Janet tells everyone that she "got the whole thing out" so I'm guessing that she and Dr. Sandy Van Densen were able to remove everything, including the tissue where it had begun to form. I don't think it will come back because it was directly linked to the gene splitting machine. When Nirti placed Jonas inside, it somehow gave him the tumor. So I believe, and I hope I'm right, that the only way the tumor would come back is if some other person snatched Jonas up and thrusted him in again.

Chaka's_Mum
May 9th, 2005, 04:31 AM
One thing I liked about this was the way that the visions never appeared to Jonas in context. All he saw was an outcome - not the events that led to it. As a result, what seems like an incredible gift (tumour notwithstanding) turns out to be a massive double-edged sword. Instead of saving Sam from injury, his intervention leads to the very set of circumstances he was trying to prevent. Had she gone off-world as planned, she would never have been involved in the accident.

Naturally, this puts Jonas in one heck of a quandary when he gets that vision of the off-world team being wiped out at the gate. What should he do? The last time he intervened, he caused the event he had witnessed - will that happen again? But, if he doesn't step in, and the events he witnessed come to pass - he has to live with that for the rest of his life. With only an outcome to judge by, not the contributing events, he's not got the first idea whether what he saw was the consequence of intervention or silence. All he knows is that they died.

On a completely separate note, when I first came to Wales, my primary school teacher started teaching me Welsh using the 'Cymraeg i Blant' reader series. It revolved around the life of a brother and sister and their dog. The dog's name was 'Mot', which (correct me if I'm wrong) is short for 'smotyn' or 'spot'. :)

Anubis345
May 9th, 2005, 05:49 PM
i like how the ep was focuse don Jonas being a member of SG-1 and trying to earn his place in O'neills eyes

Spiderqueen
May 17th, 2005, 08:24 PM
:D Awsome...fun...:)

greytop
May 17th, 2005, 10:04 PM
One thing I liked about this was the way that the visions never appeared to Jonas in context. All he saw was an outcome - not the events that led to it. As a result, what seems like an incredible gift (tumour notwithstanding) turns out to be a massive double-edged sword. Instead of saving Sam from injury, his intervention leads to the very set of circumstances he was trying to prevent. Had she gone off-world as planned, she would never have been involved in the accident.

Naturally, this puts Jonas in one heck of a quandary when he gets that vision of the off-world team being wiped out at the gate. What should he do? The last time he intervened, he caused the event he had witnessed - will that happen again? But, if he doesn't step in, and the events he witnessed come to pass - he has to live with that for the rest of his life. With only an outcome to judge by, not the contributing events, he's not got the first idea whether what he saw was the consequence of intervention or silence. All he knows is that they died.Isn't most prophecy done this way?


On a completely separate note, when I first came to Wales, my primary school teacher started teaching me Welsh using the 'Cymraeg i Blant' reader series. It revolved around the life of a brother and sister and their dog. The dog's name was 'Mot', which (correct me if I'm wrong) is short for 'smotyn' or 'spot'. :)That reminds me of the readers I had in grade schools when learning to read. The brother and sister were named Dick and Jane and their dog was named Spot.

Chaka's_Mum
May 18th, 2005, 10:55 PM
Yes it is - but it's just the way the Jonas tackles it. At the beginning, he views his foresight as a fantastic gift, a chance to prevent bad things happening because he sees them in advance.

We all know that visions of the future are seriously double-edged swords, but he doesn't. Not only is it a great tool to help the team, it's also his big chance to finally win Jack's outright approval. The fact that the 'gift' is caused by something that will kill him if he doesn't get rid of it is irrelevant.

When he finds out (the hard way) that his 'gift' is a tricky, tricky thing, this changes the perspective for him. Now, when he gets a vision, what's he supposed to make of it? What does it really mean? What will happen if he tries to prevent what he sees this time? He could save the lives of the off-world teams - or condemn them to death; and it all depends upon how he interprets what he's just seen.

jannagalaxy
May 21st, 2005, 02:30 AM
I personally think that this episode was brillient. It makes me wonder why Jonas didn't ascend in season 7. That could of opened up a whole new path. I think that's the way we could of seen more of him. I thought he was a great character.

Given those abilties he would of been a prime choice to ascend. I mean the episode showed that he had alot of potential (ok I know it nearly killed him!).

Well that's what I think anyway.

Thanks for reading.

Spiderqueen
May 21st, 2005, 10:46 AM
I don't think it would have been a good thing for Jonas to ascend. For one thing, It would have left the team (yet again) without an archeologist, even if Daniel was coming back. And I don't think it would have caused the same spout of sympathy that went out to Daniel when he died and ascended. I myself was devistated at Daniel and Dr. Frasier's death, and to see Jonas die too would have been just too much. No; I think letting him live was better because this gives SG-1 a path to visit him if TPTB ever dial that address again.

QuiGonJohn
June 16th, 2005, 04:47 AM
I liked the episode. I think one thing they did good was to bring in another doctor to do the brain surgery. Fraiser's good, but for something like that, you need a specialist. They have really brought Jonas a long way into the team. Unfortunately, now that he's fully accepted, he's about done. Well, Daniel will be back soon.

Spiderqueen
June 19th, 2005, 09:10 AM
Yeah, I won't say that I don't like Daniel, because ever since he came back he's been so much better. But I do miss Jonas. He was a great guy to have around, and he was very helpful. We have Prometheus and Daedalus thanks to his Naquadria. I think this episode showed much of the conflict he'd been having since Meridian. He wants to show he's changed and that he can do good things without putting himself first. I miss him, even though I am glad to see Daniel again. If they'd only have Jonas visit the SGC..!

JastersLegacy
July 13th, 2005, 06:33 PM
I think this was one of my favorite episodes. Of course, I'm a sucker for all this 'see into the future' crap...

Man... I try so hard to hate Jonas... he just isn't DJ! But he is a hard one to hate.... despite the fact that he was the replacement DJ... I guess he's okay :)

zats
July 13th, 2005, 07:26 PM
There's a certain puppyish quality that makes him annoyingly endearing. :rollseyes:

Spiderqueen
July 14th, 2005, 12:30 PM
This is how I look at it. Daniel was always a fun guy to have around. Yes, he was a bit of a nerd, but I've always enjoyed learning about history and stuff so his job on SG-1 always appealed to me. While he wasn't my favorite character (that honor goes to Jack :D ) sometimes he would pull out these great solutions to problems out of thin air, and they would be just in the nick of time. Of course, at the same time, I thought he was a pretty weak character. The guy didn't seem to be able to do much but stand there, figure out translations, and struggle with the trauma of loosing his wife and girlfriend to the Goa'uld.

However, when he died, I was in tears. How could the kill off Daniel?! He'd been around since the official movie, and he'd been best friends with Jack--heck, he'd saved Jack's life on Abydos! But that was the way that the cards fell. When season six began, I wasn't too sure that I was going to like Jonas. But you have to, in the end. In a lot of ways he was like a kid going to Disneyland; these people come from another world and tell him that therer are even more worlds to explore besides Earth and Kelowna!!! He's really excited about being excepted into this huge project with all of these older guys who know loads more than he does about Naquadria. Then this catastrophe happens at a time when he should be rejoicing about meeting people from another world. At first he lies because that's what his government is telling him to do. But when you think about, Daniel changed Jonas even as he was dying millions of light years away. Because of Daniel's sacrifice, Jonas was able to come forward with the truth about the bomb accident.

So what I think happened was, "I'm Professor Jackson, here's what I've taught you, go and do something with it while I'm gone for a year." While Daniel was gone (and ultimetly developing as a character for the better, YEAH!!) Jonas was around and I think this might have been good for SG-1 to expirence some new blood. When Daniel came back, Jonas took all of the stuff he had learned and brought it back to his homeworld. I don't think you can hate Jonas because Daniel was better, or vice versa for that matter. They come from different backgrounds and different worlds. Each one has his good qualities and weaknesses. Perhaps one day, we'll see an episode where there's some major Daniel/Jonas interaction, problem-solving and kick butt action. That would be fun!

LuvsJonasQuinn
August 23rd, 2005, 12:54 AM
Jonas really wanted to prove himself to the team in this one. I wanted to give him a hug because he felt so bad about Sam getting hurt. And I was definitely willing to sign up to give him some TLC after his surgery. :D I liked how at the end Jack told him to hurry up and get better because the team needs him. And when Jonas asked Sam if Jack was okay considering he'd just said that and she told him about how it was a sign that he had the Colonel's trust and respect.:)

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 06:25 AM
Nice end to the year this episode, full of action what Stargate is for!

walter_MacChevron
October 31st, 2005, 08:42 PM
Another pretty good Jonas eppy........i always love these types of episodes where someone can alter the future/events

veryangrystargatefan
June 20th, 2006, 08:36 PM
Prophecy is my favorite Stargate episode of all time!

Rachel (veryangrystargatefan)

desert fox
July 7th, 2006, 05:37 AM
wow ! A great Jonas episode. Future visions and time paradox thing was indeed interesting. The vision of Jonas in which Jaffa entering SGC and destroying it was quite good.

Ilana
March 4th, 2007, 09:05 AM
Hello, I'm new posting to this forum, though I've been reading for a long time. Can someone explain what happened at the end of this ep...? What was all that sort of "fairy dust" just before the three got in the elevators to grab something to eat? I didn't get it...sorry to be so dense!!!

Integrabyte
March 4th, 2007, 11:53 AM
You sure this happens in prophecy? I just saw it and it ends with Jonas on the bed. Are you referring to the episode when they invite Hammond to dinner? Thats when Daniel says hi from another plane of existence ;). The wind signifies his presence.

Team SG-1*save the show*
March 4th, 2007, 12:20 PM
i love this episode. my fav bit is this:
:mad: your the tau'ri of stargate command?
:jack: And your Lord MOTTE. come to punish us for our incilence....

love it

Ilana
March 4th, 2007, 12:21 PM
Is this senility at such a young age???!!! I just watched this last night, does it end that way? I must be getting mixed up then as I saw the Lord Mott ep last night and the other, when DJ descends the night before, I just TiVo like crazy and watch when I have an opportunity. I am indeed referring the ep where they invite Hammond and he declines ... so that's the ep in which DJ ascends and that's DJ????

Team SG-1*save the show*
March 4th, 2007, 12:54 PM
The episode where daniel ascends is called meridian (5x21). Prophecy is 6x21 so i think you got mixed up there.:lol:

Ilana
March 5th, 2007, 02:45 PM
It happens. Thanks for the answers everyone.

Two_L's
May 21st, 2007, 06:30 AM
This episode was pretty cool. I liked how Jonas, after all this time, still found it necessary to prove his worth to the team, especially Jack. Corin Nemec did an excellent job in this ep and it was exciting waiting to see if Jonas' visions were going to prevent certain events from happening or not. The vision where the goa'uld were destroying the SGC was really well done and Dr Frasier was also awesome. :)

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
September 30th, 2007, 01:57 PM
This episode was pretty cool. I liked how Jonas, after all this time, still found it necessary to prove his worth to the team, especially Jack. Corin Nemec did an excellent job in this ep and it was exciting waiting to see if Jonas' visions were going to prevent certain events from happening or not. The vision where the goa'uld were destroying the SGC was really well done and Dr Frasier was also awesome. :)

:indeed: Jonas really showed how far he was willing to go to be a useful member of SG-1! One of my favourite Jonas episodes of the season! :)

s09119
October 3rd, 2007, 03:09 PM
I was rewatching this on Skiffy today, and something occured to me...

In Jonas' vision, the Jaffa's staff blasts smashed right through the control room's windows. But in several episodes, both previous and later, we see that that window is very resistant to staff blast fire, and never breaks under it. So why did it get shattered this time?

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
October 4th, 2007, 02:56 AM
plot hole for dramatic effect? Maybe it was because it was under heavy fire and all the times before it was only hit by one blast?

s09119
October 4th, 2007, 11:37 AM
plot hole for dramatic effect? Maybe it was because it was under heavy fire and all the times before it was only hit by one blast?

I'm gonna have to go with plothole here. A Jaffa came through and fired a single blast into the window, and it shattered.

See, here's a shot of the window taking direct fire in "Zero Hour", and it holds up fine. I tried to get the shot of it staying whole in "Chain Reaction", too, but stargatecaps.com didn't have one:

http://www.stargatecaps.com/sg1/s8/804/ZERO%20HOUR_617.jpg

Durbelethwen
October 4th, 2007, 01:05 PM
First off I would like to say that I like this episode.
Last night my little sister was watching it for the first time and she was able to figure out parts of the episode before they were fleshed out because she has watched episodes of "That's So Raven". At the beginning she figured out that Jonas was seeing visions of the future because he had the same sort of expression on his face that Raven does. Also she was able to predict that after Jonas warned Sam about going off world that it would occur anyway because that is what happens on "That's So Raven."

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
October 4th, 2007, 01:53 PM
The old 'I'm having a vision of impending doom' look! Everyone who has visions on TV or in films has the same expression!

Either that or the Stargate writers are Raven fans! :p

Butlersgate
March 14th, 2009, 06:57 AM
The old 'I'm having a vision of impending doom' look! Everyone who has visions on TV or in films has the same expression!

Either that or the Stargate writers are Raven fans! :p

it ties into the plot well though, considering the device with nirrti because he was on it for so long and she would of done something to him in that time. the thing that bugs me more is that a staff blast goes through the window and kills walter and injures hammond, which in other episodes never happens when a staff blast has hit the window.

Dinoman
April 1st, 2009, 04:59 PM
It's nice to see Jack finally warmed up with Jonas, sadly it is near to the end.

The Stig
May 15th, 2009, 01:05 PM
I enjoyed this episode. Nice take on precognition.

indeed it was.

balo
June 2nd, 2009, 07:45 AM
It was a good episode and maybe the best Jonas episode of the series. :jonasanime08:

The SGC scene when they were under attack was pretty cool .

Rating: 7 / 10

Ulkesh47
June 2nd, 2009, 02:07 PM
The SGC scene when they were under attack was pretty cool .
To put it mildly! Walter dead. Airmen dead. Hammond blown up... It's like "There but for the Grace of God" all over again!

suse
June 2nd, 2009, 02:33 PM
Poor Jonas, still feeling he has to prove himself.

I really liked the guy.

vzzzzzbx
June 8th, 2009, 06:05 PM
Great episode. The visions of the attack on the SGC and the ambush at the gate were very dramatic and well done, and Lord Mot made a pretty good villain, shame he only lasted the one episode really.

Ulkesh47
June 9th, 2009, 07:51 AM
Lord Mot made a pretty good villain, shame he only lasted the one episode really.
And shame that he didn't die on screen.

Alan Wake
June 17th, 2009, 10:40 AM
Watching the mini marathon on scifi right now, and this episode is currently on.

I liked this story. Season 6 seems to have a darker edge to it then the other SG-1 seasons.

The part where Jonas had his vision with the destruction of SGC was the coolest part.

mrscopterdoc
March 24th, 2010, 02:17 PM
I like this eppy for Jonas and I am sad he has to go soon.

maneth
October 18th, 2010, 08:57 AM
Loved this ep, and at least Jonas didn't die...

zainea13
December 19th, 2011, 12:04 AM
This was a really great episode, and I absolutely love Jonas, is future departure is so sad...

Dave2
December 19th, 2011, 03:13 PM
I don't understand what intervened to prevent the Jaffa from killing the SG teams and getting the bomb.
Did Mott have anything to do with it such that his death prevented the Jaffa from completing their mission??

Furthermore, he criticized his underling for sounding the alarm and said that he arranged for them to be free......but then it was the girl who freed them and who then killed Mott. What did I miss here?

zainea13
December 21st, 2011, 06:19 PM
I don't understand what intervened to prevent the Jaffa from killing the SG teams and getting the bomb.
Did Mott have anything to do with it such that his death prevented the Jaffa from completing their mission??

Furthermore, he criticized his underling for sounding the alarm and said that he arranged for them to be free......but then it was the girl who freed them and who then killed Mott. What did I miss here?

haha, you got confused. Ok, the ambush was set by Ma'at and he allowed the servant girl to free SG-1, then Jonas has his premonition and Hammond sends the warning. Ma'at's slave boy heard the radio. The slave man said to check on the prisoners and then sounded the alarm. The alarm/horn alerted SG-1 to the coming Jaffa and allowed them to counteract the ambush. Hope that makes sense lol. Go Jonas!

Matt G
January 29th, 2012, 01:29 PM
I stuck a VHS into the Halls of Res machine...

1. The laugh is, by the time this ep aired in the UK, we already knew that Jonas was being written out of S7!

2. Rewatching, the biggest thing was remembering how all the premonitions played out.

3. Again, the guy was still trying desperately to fit in.

4. Still, the way the final ambush was averted was a bit nuts.

Decen enough ep.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
January 30th, 2012, 05:55 PM
Thought it was going to be terrible, but it was still average. With some entertaining moments.

I think this might be the last time we actually see the original GDOs on screen (we'll see a more compact version on Atlantis). I always wonder (present tense) what happened to them.

Also, this might be the only time the Goa'uld come through the Gate to attack Earth/SGC (during the normal timeline (not alternate timeline, like past episodes), even if it was changed by Jonas).

Tomorrow, the final episode of the part of our journey through the 6th Season. It is my favorite episode of SG-1 and the franchise as a whole.

Krisz
January 30th, 2012, 06:53 PM
Another episode I enjoyed watching again, not having seen it for a long time.

At this point I felt it was quite sad that Jonas was being written out, he really did find his feet in the end, even though he doubted his true value still. I'd come to like the personable character by this time.

I love anything to do with prophecies and how they can be interpreted to suit whatever the situation or state of mind warrants. A fun look at what problems actually knowing what will happen and trying to change events can cause, the outcome is not always the desired one! An entertaining episode for this and it was fun to watch again. :)

Jae'a
January 31st, 2012, 06:55 AM
Tomorrow, the final episode of the part of our journey through the 6th Season. It is my favorite episode of SG-1 and the franchise as a whole.
Really, I'd never have guessed... ;)

My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/35322.html)
Great stuff, this ep. :) Poor Jonas, he so wants to help...

bookwormjules
January 31st, 2012, 06:14 PM
Only watched this episode once before, now I know why. One of my least favourite episodes - just never appealed to me.

Knowing Janet's history, I don't think she would have allowed Jonas' condition to go on as long as it did - even if he didn't want it.

jelgate
February 3rd, 2012, 04:00 PM
Not good but not bad either. The concept of Jonas having precognition is interesting and something Stargate has never explored before. So it was interesting to Stargate's twist on this science fiction classic. But the whole Lord Mot and his clash with SG1 was yawning to me. It was nothing special and ground breaking in seeing them kill Mot. I was more interested in Jonas especially the part about him still having to prove himself. That part between him and Fraiser was very eye opening. Something that annoyed me is when the SGC was being attacked in the "Jonas vision" why did not any of the technicians think of closing the iris instead of waiting for Hammond. Of course he will want the iris closed.

Lieutenant Sparrow
February 8th, 2012, 05:34 PM
An interesting ep. But not one I would revisit.

Sad to see Jonas still thought he had to prove himself even at this point.

Time to watch one of my all time favourite eps.

Cluas
January 30th, 2013, 11:26 PM
This ep shows that the writers thought it to be the last season. It was average, but interesting too.

Falcon Horus
July 10th, 2013, 01:22 PM
I love Jonas so much, and I will miss him come season 7... :(

Anyhow, I really enjoy this episode so much. Jonas still doubting if he really is one of the team and trying to proof himself worthy, almost getting himself killed in the process.

It's an interesting idea being able to predict the future but as we all know too many variables to take into account. However, doesn't mean we can't influence the outcome or the way things go.

It gets tight at the end when Jonas knows what's going to happen and he can't say it anymore... the first time round I was like "Oh ****, this is not happening". Of course, second time viewing (or many more to be precise) I did know what was going to happen and how, but I was still on the edge of my proverbial seat.

Fun thing spotted: when Teal'c shoots that one Jaffa that's standing on the little wall, the wall moves back and forth when the stunt guy falls backwards. :p

kirsten187
August 22nd, 2014, 04:10 PM
Does anyone in the UK remember when this episode was first shown on Channel 4 in the UK? I'm thinking around 2003 / 2004 time.

Falcon Horus
August 22nd, 2014, 04:28 PM
According to the Wiki page its first airing on Sky One was on February 19 2003, so Channel 4 would probably be the same year (if not around the same time).

kirsten187
August 22nd, 2014, 05:01 PM
Thank you. That's the sort of time I had in mind. It's the first episode I saw and probably helped with my love of Fraiser as my favourite character (along with Hammond, of course).

I Am Not James Spader
September 19th, 2015, 09:21 AM
A good episode but I wish that they'd had the time to make the effect of the visions a little more complex.

However, it was good for a 40 minute story and the little twist in the effect of the final vision was great in being the catalyst to prevent it coming through.

And I love that like the writers again showed the natives as taking charge of their own destiny - the girl freeing the soldiers and executing the Go'auld herself. I would have like it if they'd shown her turn the gun on the traitor with the implication that she killed him too.

garhkal
September 19th, 2015, 08:38 PM
An OK episode for me...

Anja
September 23rd, 2015, 12:12 PM
Little bit fortune telling, a great many bad guys :indeed: and a cute Jonas Quinn, who is doing a great job trying not to replace Dr Jackson but to present an interesting character.

Manche
November 23rd, 2018, 11:35 AM
I think that this is the great episode for Jonas and it belongs to my favourite episodes in the whole series. Jonas had such a great potential as a character and I was really sorry that he was gone so shortly after this episode

I especially like the vision of Jonas as seemed to be quite powerful (the vision with the attack at SGC the best, poor soldiers there they managed to stop Jaffa but too late unfortunately) and his desperate effort to help at the cost of his own life.

I like one specific point in the vision of the ambush by the Gate and it is that Teal'c died when he was trying to save the member of different SG team (major Pierce). Not only because I like the character of Pierce (he was great, I would wish to see him more in later seasons as least the same amount of episodes as Reynolds) but I do not remember a different scene when SG1 member would be injured or killed when he tried to save a member of different team. All these guys on SG teams are important after all.

Falcon Horus
December 22nd, 2018, 09:10 AM
For me, personally, this is the best episode of season 6 and the best one for Jonas Quinn. I love that character so much and it really saddens me that he won't be around come season 7 but it is what it is, I guess.

In any case, another episode which starts with Nirrti's history of wanting to create and advanced human, and it shows us how far she might have gotten were she still alive. I think she would have been pleased with Jonas' ability to see the future, even if it was sketchy at best and perhaps only one of many possibilities.

The idea of predicting the future exactly as it will happen is a fascinating one, though so many possible outcomes one would just get a headache just thinking about it.

Also, spotten this fun fact again...


Fun thing spotted: when Teal'c shoots that one Jaffa that's standing on the little wall, the wall moves back and forth when the stunt guy falls backwards. :p

And I'd also like to second the below...


All these guys on SG teams are important after all.

Prophecy showcases the brave men and women of the SGC quite nicely.

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Manche
December 22nd, 2018, 11:46 AM
Even when different SG teams never were central focus of the series, we could see all these years that are no less competent than SG-1, yes, they were killed many times, but never was shown that it would be for not being good enough, they only had bad luck. Only two SG teams members who were not competent were these two members of SG-9 from The First Commandment (Hanson and Baker) who proclaimed themselves as Gods.

I agree that this episode shows the heroismus of SGC personal nicely.

I noticed one possible mistake in one of Jonas¨s visions - when he had the vision of burned Sam, should not be Siler seen in this vision as he was present there when it really happened?

Falcon Horus
December 22nd, 2018, 11:59 AM
I noticed one possible mistake in one of Jonas¨s visions - when he had the vision of burned Sam, should not be Siler seen in this vision as he was present there when it really happened?

I don't think it was a mistake since he didn't see the whole vision. He only saw a piece of it so when he assumed she got hurt off-world, it was because he didn't have the information about Siler being there too. If he had seen Siler as well, he would have known it would happen at the base so he would never have stopped her from going. He would have known the reason of her injury.

Manche
December 22nd, 2018, 12:11 PM
For me, personally, this is the best episode of season 6 and the best one for Jonas Quinn. I love that character so much and it really saddens me that he won't be around come season 7 but it is what it is, I guess.



It is hard to choose the best episode from season 6, i like all episodes there and there is no episode which I would call as bad (even some episodes which are considered to be weaker as Shadow Play or Sight Unseen), but I agree that this is the best episode of the season. And in terms of Jonas, I also think that this is his best episode. I also liked him very much, I was dissapointed that he was forgotten so soon. Maybe I should not say it as it is not the much popular opinion but I liked Jonas much more than Daniel and I was quite dissapointed that Daniel's return accompanied the departure of Jonas.

Falcon Horus
December 22nd, 2018, 12:27 PM
Maybe I should not say it as it is not the much popular opinion but I liked Jonas much more than Daniel and I was quite dissapointed that Daniel's return accompanied the departure of Jonas.

Maybe, but I don't care because I share that opinion. ;)

Manche
December 22nd, 2018, 12:31 PM
Maybe, but I don't care because I share that opinion. ;)

I am so glad, that I am not alone.:)

Who Knows
December 22nd, 2018, 03:27 PM
11.06

jelgate
December 22nd, 2018, 06:35 PM
Maybe, but I don't care because I share that opinion. ;)

Thirded

jelgate
December 29th, 2018, 12:30 PM
Im less generious than FH. All things she said however are true. This is a nice episode to see how Jonas has progressed since Redemption but it leaves a sour taste for me since he leaves in 3 more episodes. Story wise its your standard episode. Seeing the future is a classic sci-fi story. I give it a fair. Im 13/15 and 6 minutes 33 seconds

BethHG
January 16th, 2019, 01:28 PM
I love Jonas! He is my favorite character! 8:35 for the puzzle.

hedwig
January 16th, 2019, 08:00 PM
8:24

Falcon Horus
January 27th, 2019, 02:20 PM
6:28 -- few seconds faster than Jelgate. :)