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<FONT SIZE=4 COLOR="#0066BF"><B>MEMENTO</B></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 620</FONT>
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Prometheus is forced to land on an alien world, where the local Stargate is the team's only chance of returning home -- though the local population believe the gate to be a myth.

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JakeDeuxPointZero
May 8th, 2004, 09:25 PM
I just saw this episode on syndication rotation (first time I've watched season 6 on TV!), and I must say, I definitely enjoyed it. I don't know why... it was just a good episode... especially since those people had absolutely no expectation of anybody from another planet, then we suddenly show up... that was cool.

Major Tyler
May 8th, 2004, 11:07 PM
I really like this episode because it kind of reverses roles on the show. We are the alien visitors who need help from the less advanced planet. The fact that the Tagrians used nuclear ICBMs was really cool.

Elwe Singollo
May 9th, 2004, 12:55 AM
I really like this episode because it kind of reverses roles on the show. We are the alien visitors who need help from the less advanced planet. The fact that the Tagrians used nuclear ICBMs was really cool.
I agree :)

Dragonlor
May 9th, 2004, 01:28 AM
I thought the first 15 minutes was funny. I think the characters watched too much Star Trek. Good episode.

KorbenDirewolf
May 9th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Just goes to show that human nature is human nature, no matter what world they're from.

SGSlugger
May 9th, 2004, 05:45 PM
I liked this ep as well. I reserved roles was interesting. Good thing that we don't have a Prime Directive! I would be interested in seeing some more contact with them in S8...anyone else?
Although I wouldn't say that they were less advanced.

JakeDeuxPointZero
May 9th, 2004, 06:50 PM
Yeah... I'd definitely like to see some more contact... as for how advanced they are, I'd say they're probably slightly more... they have stuff that can float on its own (the gun turrets) and they have missiles that can launch toward something orbiting in space!

And, yes, I'd definitely like to see their return in s8... although,(season 7 spoilers... "Grace", I think... the Carter episode from season 7)










when we go to retreive the Prometheus in season 7, don't we technically return to that planet, even though it's not seen? Just wondering... but I'd definitely like to see their return.

KorbenDirewolf
May 10th, 2004, 12:15 PM
a Prime Directive?

SGSlugger
May 10th, 2004, 12:55 PM
a Prime Directive?

In Star Trek, the Prime Directive was a Starfleet order that under no circumstances are we allowed to interfere (ie, make contact, swap technology with) with a more primitive race. A primitive race was anyone that didn't achieve a warp flight.

If the SGC had one, we couldn't have landed on Pangara (right planet?) to see if they had a stargate.


when we go to retreive the Prometheus in season 7, don't we technically return to that planet, even though it's not seen? Just wondering... but I'd definitely like to see their return

I often wondered how they did this too 'cause they just jumped right in with Sam on the Prommie.

bcmilco
May 10th, 2004, 01:57 PM
If the SGC had one, we couldn't have landed on Pangara (right planet?) to see if they had a stargate.

Pangara was the planet with the Tritonin (sp) in Cure. This planet was called Tagrea (sp).

Captain Amazing
May 13th, 2004, 06:22 AM
There is something about this episode that I just love. I don't specifically know what it is :)

It really well directed though!

KorbenDirewolf
May 13th, 2004, 03:13 PM
In Star Trek, the Prime Directive was a Starfleet order that under no circumstances are we allowed to interfere (ie, make contact, swap technology with) with a more primitive race. A primitive race was anyone that didn't achieve a warp flight.


ahh.. I gotcha now. ;)

Jill_Ion
May 15th, 2004, 06:57 AM
This was an OK episode--good to be sure, but not great in my book. I think I gotta watch it again (isn't that terrible ;) ) to fill out what specifics I liked/didn't like.

morjana
May 26th, 2004, 07:14 AM
Syndicated ratings are in for the first run of "Memento":

From SciFi Wire:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/

Top TEN Syndicated SciFi Shows

Mutant X------------1.9 - "The Prophecy" (first run & series finale)
Stargate SG-1-------1.9 - "Memento" (first run)
She Spies-----------1.6
Andromeda-----------1.5 - "Time Out Of Mind" (first run)
Buffy---------------1.5
3rd Rock------------1.4
Angel---------------1.3
The X-Files---------1.3
Beastmaster---------1.2
The Outer Limits----1.0

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 5/3/04 - 5/9/04


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"Stargate SG-1" continues to be the only series in this syndicated category to have a season average rating OVER 2.0 -- currently, the average syndicated rating for SG-1 (season six) is 2.23. The next highest rated series in this syndicated category is "Mutant X" with a 1.93.


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Morjana

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Anubis
May 26th, 2004, 07:42 AM
Memento was actually quite a decent episode considering that it was towards the end. Generally around this episode gets a little dull and the final two are more exciting building up to the end

SeaBee
May 27th, 2004, 12:54 PM
Err.... I don't remember this ep. at all, and I'm sure I didn't miss any of season 6.
Ah, grunnocks! Guess I'll have to go thrugh my vids and see if it's there. :D

omnian
May 27th, 2004, 01:04 PM
I hadn't seen this ep until last week and it is very cool. I don't like the beginning much because it seems like Star Trek but the rest is okay. The uncovering of the Stargate is very reminiscient of the beginning of the movie which made me smile, lol.

Selmak
July 11th, 2004, 07:58 AM
Is it a rule that ever 4 and 1/2 seconds something has to go wrong with the X-303.

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 08:10 PM
I think it was the first time we get to see the X-303's ring transporter.

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 08:37 PM
I should stop saying X-303

VirtualCLD
August 3rd, 2004, 06:06 AM
What's wrong with X-303?

greytop
August 3rd, 2004, 06:24 AM
I should stop saying X-303
The X-303 is easier than writing Prometheus every time you need to post. :)

KorbenDirewolf
August 3rd, 2004, 11:27 AM
But it's no longer called the X-303. Prometheus is now a BC-303.

DownFallAngel
August 3rd, 2004, 11:29 AM
Yea why did they change that?

greytop
August 3rd, 2004, 12:27 PM
Why don't we just call it the 303. :) :rolleyes: :D

Anubis
August 3rd, 2004, 01:27 PM
The X-303 the 303 the Promethus, there is no difference. It's just the X-303 is the project name, not the ship name!

greytop
August 3rd, 2004, 01:32 PM
The X-303 the 303 the Promethus, there is no difference. It's just the X-303 is the project name, not the ship name!
I know that.

VirtualCLD
August 4th, 2004, 05:17 AM
Have they officially changed it to BC-303? So it's no longer experimental? Boy, that was fast.

DownFallAngel
August 4th, 2004, 08:07 AM
Have they officially changed it to BC-303? So it's no longer experimental? Boy, that was fast.

I don't know...it kinda took on a massive Anubis' mother ship. So it shouldn't be experimental. I mean it did take alot of hits and its shields still held out. Good ol' Asgard.

KorbenDirewolf
August 4th, 2004, 11:20 AM
Actually, I was wrong.. It was sometime after this episode that it changed. Sorry!


Spoiler "Enemy Mine"













They start referring to them as BC-303s in "Enemy Mine".

Rhydderch Hael
August 5th, 2004, 10:15 PM
In any case, the 303's are run by Air Force crews. In this episode, that much so is evident.

It's probably why Prommie got into so much trouble. For a ship, this crew certainly didn't act like the crew of ship. In all truth, the technical advice for the show concerning starship operations was very lacking.

1: Informing all hands to brace for impact. Giving such order was long and awkward. On a Navy ship, simply sounding the collision alarm would have done the same job, even better since the verbal warning has a chance of being garbled or drowned out by commotion, whilst an alarm doesn't get glossed over by hurried ears. "Sound collision!" is a shorter order for the captain to give as well.

2: Military thrust. Colonel Ronsen, CO of Prommie, orders the ship to draw away from the exploding reactor at full military thrust. In other words, jog away from it at an engine setting recommended by the manual. Such an order is one that does NOT get you away as fast as you possibly can (where you strive for maximum acceleration by pushing it to the redline).

3: Radar. The Prometeus radar screen has that familar scop display with a radial screen and a "strobe"— that glowing straight line that sweeps around the circle. That is indicative of a planar radar array. Prometheus is easily the most advanced vessel ever created on Earth— yet does not have a phased-array radar system like the Ticonderoga class? I was in first grade elementary school when the SPY-1 radar system was put into the fleet. It's not like the thing is some new-fangled contraption.

I still shudder at the sight of personelle elevators aboard the ship. You'd think a bunch of ladders would be cheaper and easier to maintain.

Erik Pasternak
August 5th, 2004, 10:48 PM
Ladders would be cheaper and easier to maintain, but who wants to take ladders everywhere? THey are also not good if you need to move a large bulky piece of equipment or a big box inbetween decks.

Rhydderch Hael
August 6th, 2004, 08:06 AM
Ladders would be cheaper and easier to maintain, but who wants to take ladders everywhere? THey are also not good if you need to move a large bulky piece of equipment or a big box inbetween decks.
Hellooooo. They're in space.

You want to move something, you shut off the local gravity field to that section and float the stuff through.

Elevators break down. And they're most likely to break down in combat conditions. The shafts provide conduits for fire and decompression effects to spread through multiple decks at once. And traffic in battle conditions makes elevator transit very impractical.

VirtualCLD
August 6th, 2004, 08:15 AM
Well, I know that this is an AF ship, not Navy, and I'm pretty sure it is not run by the Navy nor are there any Navy personnel on board (but I could be wrong), so they are trying to use AF terms and nor Navy. However, although aircraft carriers are Navy ships, I don't believe they use elevatorss (except when moving aircraft), they have stairs and ladders for people to use, and they are big honking ships. You would think that the Prometheus wouldn't use elevators as well, only ladders and stairs.

greytop
August 6th, 2004, 11:40 AM
Ladders would be cheaper and easier to maintain, but who wants to take ladders everywhere? THey are also not good if you need to move a large bulky piece of equipment or a big box inbetween decks.
I believe that they have rings to move stuff. SG-1 use them to go down to the ground. So I assume that they are used to move heavy thing deck to deck.

Rhydderch Hael
August 6th, 2004, 12:58 PM
Well, I know that this is an AF ship, not Navy, and I'm pretty sure it is not run by the Navy nor are there any Navy personnel on board (but I could be wrong), so they are trying to use AF terms and nor Navy. However, although aircraft carriers are Navy ships, I don't believe they use elevatorss (except when moving aircraft), they have stairs and ladders for people to use, and they are big honking ships. You would think that the Prometheus wouldn't use elevators as well, only ladders and stairs.
Agreed. The funny thing is, the Navy's got a century or two up on the Air Force when it concerns the experience and protocols in managing a very large vehicle in a combat situation. Why their influence is not in the operation of Prommie is a ludicrous mystery.

SG_Mike
August 10th, 2004, 09:45 AM
Side Note: If you are watching Atlantis, notice that both this Episode 620 and Atlantis ep 105 use the same confernce table. My 7 yr old son caught this.

Elwe Singollo
August 10th, 2004, 10:18 AM
Ah- ur right! Thats kind of funny, well to me that is :rolleyes:

Anubis
August 10th, 2004, 10:35 AM
Side Note: If you are watching Atlantis, notice that both this Episode 620 and Atlantis ep 105 use the same confernce table. My 7 yr old son caught this.


I was watching 105 yesterday and I didn't notice this until now. Boy do they love reusing their props!

SG_Mike
August 10th, 2004, 11:20 AM
I was watching 105 yesterday and I didn't notice this until now. Boy do they love reusing their props!

I have never minded too much unless it was REAL OBVIOUS. But in this case it was subtle. Still funny to think as if someone stole that table.

Anubis
August 10th, 2004, 01:00 PM
I agree with that, if it's too obvious I don't like it and I think they just use it as a big excuse, however if they cover it up, good for them [and us]!

mishy_mo
October 4th, 2004, 02:21 PM
i like this ep but colonel Ronson he was just a little too pig headed for my liking

no doubt in there to conter SG-1 'over-whelming coolness'

walter_MacChevron
October 7th, 2004, 09:09 PM
one of the few episodes i liked of the season....along wtih "abyss" and "full circle"

lionel_pendergast_rocks
October 31st, 2004, 12:50 PM
i finally go tto see this ep only a few weeks ago, because i missed most of s6, so i watched them all out of order. i really liked this one becasue it one, involves the prometheus, and it deals with an advanced civilization. the best scene in the show has to be the explosion of the hyperdrive. :eek:

Major Fischer
November 25th, 2004, 01:45 PM
So I'm going to correct PDL, who in the commentary says that the camoflage uniforms being worn by the soldiers in this episode are "East German." They aren't. It's the Flecktarn camoflage pattern used by first the West German than German Bundeswehr.

The East German Nationalen Volksarmee wore two different patterns, one that I believe was called splinter in the country's earlier years, and than replaced by the easier manufacture Rain Pattern. Rain Pattern can be seen on Dr. Markov in Watergate.

Unas
November 26th, 2004, 12:55 AM
In any case, the 303's are run by Air Force crews. In this episode, that much so is evident.

It's probably why Prommie got into so much trouble. For a ship, this crew certainly didn't act like the crew of ship. In all truth, the technical advice for the show concerning starship operations was very lacking.

TPTB is playing to the stereotypes of both the military and sci-fi because it's much more easily relatable. The bridge looks way too much like ones on Star Trek. I believe ships use blue alert instead of red now since blue is a more calming color.

Im ambivalent towards this episode. I liked the gate raising nod to the movie. What bugged me was the Tagreans themselves. They are another "Earth jr." society where everyone dresses and talks like us. They have a huge military despite having no threats. Why was the commander so worried about defense when they are the only nation on the planet and there is no rebellion?

Major Fischer
November 26th, 2004, 08:00 AM
TPTB is playing to the stereotypes of both the military and sci-fi because it's much more easily relatable. The bridge looks way too much like ones on Star Trek.

TPTB claim it's based off the bridge of a nuclear air craft carrier. We should all remember that science fiction often all copy from original sources. Even Star Trek ;)

Major Tyler
November 26th, 2004, 08:59 AM
They have a huge military despite having no threats. Why was the commander so worried about defense when they are the only nation on the planet and there is no rebellion?Did they ever establish that they were the only nation on the planet? If they are, maybe they are the only nation on the planet because they invaded all the others, and are now struggling to keep them. Domestic conflicts can be just as dangerous (or more so) than international ones.

LMichelle
December 7th, 2004, 12:15 PM
C'mon, we knew they were going to find the Stargate. Then there was going to be some conflict. This ep was pretty predictable. :rolleyes:

Madeleine
December 7th, 2004, 02:40 PM
There was one bit that I could never have predicted:

Old man: "I worship the god Whatnot."
Visitor: "Whatnot was a false god, and he's long dead."

So... does the old man laugh at the foolish visitor? get upset with the heretical visitor? challenge the mistaken visitor? rant at the iconoclastic visitor? express any surprise at all at the visitor's assertion? No! Not at all! It was pretty much -

Old Man: "Oh. Want to look at my books?"

Sheesh.

I found s8's Icon to be very cathartic.

Rhydderch Hael
December 10th, 2004, 07:15 PM
TPTB is playing to the stereotypes of both the military and sci-fi because it's much more easily relatable. The bridge looks way too much like ones on Star Trek. I believe ships use blue alert instead of red now since blue is a more calming color. ...
As I recall, Star Trek: Voyager introduced Blue Alert to signal the crew that the ship was conducting atmospheric or landing operation.

The traditional "Red" Alert is appropriate for battle conditions because the red light spectrum does not impact one's night vision— something important if you're trying to acquire a target or threat visually.

lionel_pendergast_rocks
December 11th, 2004, 03:37 PM
this is one of my favorite s6 episodes. one, because it has the prommie, and two, it has that awesome scene with the hyperdrive exploding right behind the ship.

'some would see nostalgia as a weakness'

corey2002
December 28th, 2004, 01:59 PM
i did not finish the ep and am not shure wether this was mentioned already but: these people seem avanced(did not finish to know wether this is true)so why would sg1 not ask if they had a hyperspace generator?

veneticuss
January 2nd, 2005, 01:14 AM
i did not finish the ep and am not shure wether this was mentioned already but: these people seem avanced(did not finish to know wether this is true)so why would sg1 not ask if they had a hyperspace generator?
I don't really think they were that advaced. How can they have a hyperspace generator, if they even dont have a space ship?

corey2002
January 4th, 2005, 08:23 PM
I don't really think they were that advaced. How can they have a hyperspace generator, if they even dont have a space ship?
i didnt see the full thing to know wether or not they had a ship

Flyboy
January 5th, 2005, 08:54 AM
IMO, the Navy should be commanding the 303, along with an Air Force contingency for piloting the Gliders and some marines for ground combat.

Yu`
February 9th, 2005, 08:08 PM
This one was ok but Kelfas was annoying, he was way to over the top.

jyh
February 28th, 2005, 03:16 PM
I too really like this episode, even tho there ARE some funky, cheesy parts (I noticed too that when Teal'c said Heru'ur is a false god, the professor didn't take offense or protest or anything). And I also thought the Prometheus scenes needed work. (They had just agreed that Ronson was in charge, but it was O'Neill who voiced the initial message to the planet. Also, I realize the Air Force doesn't have much experience in commanding large ships, so I guess that's why they do some things the way the Navy does.)

Regardless, one reason I think I liked this episode is that there wasn't a dire threat from a mortal enemy. A bit of a break from being chased and cornered by the Goa'uld or some other nefarious species. It was a good example of human relations... we met some potential new allies, O'Neill & Ronson learned a bit about diplomacy, and the Robert Foxworth character learned to take charge and follow his principles.

I just think it was a very enjoyable ep.

GaterGina71
February 28th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Since I have been coming to Gateworld I have picked up on little things like props and whatnot in the eps. In Memento, the guy sitting next to Ronson on the bridge on the right, his name badge says Peter(I think its the right name) Deluise. I know for sure the last name was right, but there are so many of them its hard to keep track.

yasureubetcha
February 28th, 2005, 09:06 PM
Old man: "I worship the god Whatnot."
Visitor: "Whatnot was a false god, and he's long dead."

So... does the old man laugh at the foolish visitor? get upset with the heretical visitor? challenge the mistaken visitor? rant at the iconoclastic visitor? express any surprise at all at the visitor's assertion? No! Not at all! It was pretty much -

Old Man: "Oh. Want to look at my books?"



Yeah, that bothered me a lot. No realism in that AT ALL.

And the Prometheus' crew uniforms look somewhat like the ones from ST: Enterprise, which bothered me a little. Plus Ronsen, for all his claiming command, only basically took suggestions until they landed, when he suddenly became Mr. "This is my ship." I liked him better as a blowhard than a useless wet noodle, but the change was quite sudden.

Hywel
April 29th, 2005, 06:00 AM
Did the xenophobic defense minister guy remind anyone of Lurch from the Addams Family?

PugGate
May 5th, 2005, 08:37 AM
There was one bit that I could never have predicted:

Old man: "I worship the god Whatnot."
Visitor: "Whatnot was a false god, and he's long dead."

So... does the old man laugh at the foolish visitor? get upset with the heretical visitor? challenge the mistaken visitor? rant at the iconoclastic visitor? express any surprise at all at the visitor's assertion? No! Not at all! It was pretty much -

Old Man: "Oh. Want to look at my books?"

Sheesh.

I found s8's Icon to be very cathartic.


That old guy drove me crazy!


Cool ep with the Prommie and all the guns. I especially liked the uncovering of the Stargate.
I thought it was funny that the Tigrean(sp?) city had earth-like billboards.

QuiGonJohn
June 15th, 2005, 07:29 AM
I thought the first 15 minutes was funny. I think the characters watched too much Star Trek. Good episode.I thought they were kinda making fun of Star Trek, (and a lot of normal military protocol in general).

In Star Trek, the Prime Directive was a Starfleet order that under no circumstances are we allowed to interfere (ie, make contact, swap technology with) with a more primitive race. A primitive race was anyone that didn't achieve a warp flight.
If the SGC had one, we couldn't have landed on Pangara (right planet?) to see if they had a stargate.If the SGC had one, they couldn't have done A LOT of what they've done over the years.

The uncovering of the Stargate is very reminiscient of the beginning of the movie which made me smile, lol.I liked this a lot too.

One thing I really liked about this episode was that the Tegarens did not turn out to be some "evil" race with some sinister motive or other such skeleton in their closet. Too often, a lot of sci-fi leans on something like that. True, the defense guy was way over paranoid, but that was it, he just wanted things to stay the same. The Chairman had some concerns about the new visitors, but was willing to move forward with relations and try to help them. Very good story the way it was done.

Lucreleia
June 30th, 2005, 03:47 PM
i did not finish the ep and am not shure wether this was mentioned already but: these people seem avanced(did not finish to know wether this is true)so why would sg1 not ask if they had a hyperspace generator?

How could they have a hyperspace generator, if they haven't been to other planets, and not even met people from other worlds?

LuvsJonasQuinn
August 23rd, 2005, 12:49 AM
I like how well Jonas and Teal'c worked together in this one to figure out where the gate was buried. Nice that Earth made some a new ally. Jonas definitely has some great muscles. :D Did anyone else notice how Teal'c called him Jonas and not JonasQuinn when they were uncovering the stone covering the gate? That always stands out to me for some reason.

CovertOperative
August 23rd, 2005, 02:21 PM
Just saw this episode again last night, and noticed something. Was it just me, or did the weapons Commander Kalfas and his men were using resemble the weapons of the Genii on SGA?

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 06:26 AM
Yes they do, maybe TPTB hoped no one would realise but thats the problem with repeats!

walter_MacChevron
October 31st, 2005, 08:39 PM
Nice Jonas eppy....but i rather they save time and effort for good stroies rather than new props;)

AscendedAbydonian
February 8th, 2006, 02:58 PM
HEy everybody! Memento was just on SciFi, and I forgot how much I loved that episode. When did Col. Pendergast take command over The Promethious?

Jumper One
February 8th, 2006, 03:28 PM
HEy everybody! Memento was just on SciFi, and I forgot how much I loved that episode.

I thought I was the only one! I have no idea why its so good... it just is...

Anyway, he took over.... I just realized I have no idea when. :)

Jumper One
February 8th, 2006, 03:29 PM
Oh yeah, did anyone notice whether the Memento stargate had 9 chevrons? It looked like it did, but i'm not sure.

freyr's mother
February 8th, 2006, 04:08 PM
Pendergast took command of prommie in The New Order. 801-802

AscendedAbydonian
February 8th, 2006, 05:24 PM
[QUOTE=Jumper One]I thought I was the only one! I have no idea why its so good... it just is...

I love the part when they uncover and raise the Stargate in the setting sun

the fifth man
February 8th, 2006, 06:55 PM
Yeah, I caught the last half of "Memento" tonight on Sci-Fi. I agree, it was a really good ep from season 6.

NakedJehutyV2
February 8th, 2006, 09:19 PM
tivo'd it not bad

Stricken
February 9th, 2006, 12:46 AM
Oh yeah, did anyone notice whether the Memento stargate had 9 chevrons? It looked like it did, but i'm not sure.
All Stargates have 9 Chevrons two of them are rarley seen as they are normally in the ground.

See GateWorlds Omnipedia Arictle Here (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/s/stargate.shtml)

Darkstar
February 9th, 2006, 03:57 AM
All Stargates have 9 Chevrons two of them are rarley seen as they are normally in the ground.

See GateWorlds Omnipedia Arictle Here (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/technology/s/stargate.shtml)

yes all gates have nine chevrons, duh im supprised people think they dont, watch episodes such as prisoners the 5th commandmant and you will see the gates in all their glory without being stuck in the ground.

earths SG is the same as all the other gates, there isnt anything special about the earth gate with slight exceptions being the powersource jack used to dial the asgard in season 2, all gates can do that, the only gate that has superiority over others is the atlantis gate, this is only because the ancients made that gate the only known gate to be able to dial the milky way, for reasons that make sense as far as the wraith are concerned.
:D

skeezix
March 22nd, 2006, 06:48 PM
I enjoyed this episode but something irks me. I have this feeling that, as I've only seen some of season 7 and none further, we are never going to see these people again. The way events unfolded it seems logical we would try to make an alliance or at the very least get some tech or something. When I think of the episode this way, it really feels like a filler episode and it seems to me that the writers were just kind of stuck trying to find a direction and threw this in there to fill the gap. Normally a filler ep wouldn't be bad, stand alone eps are great when done right as this one was. But it being a good filler ep is what kills it for me because it becomes one of those "What ever happened to those guys?" episodes in my mind like the Nick Ballard/Crystal Skull ep. Entertaining and well written episode but I can't help but feel it went to waste.

Btw, one thing I really enjoyed about this ep was the bickering between two prick characters on opposite sides, the commander of the Promethius and that military guy from the other planet that got arrested at the end. Rarely do any shows have that.

gater_girl
May 19th, 2006, 06:38 PM
Did anybody else notice that one of the tables is almost the same as the one in atlantis?
(in spoiler tags because i can't make them smaller)

http://www.stargatecaps.com/sg1/s6/620/html/6x20%5F0465.html


http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s1/117/html/letters000.html

captain jake
May 19th, 2006, 07:50 PM
Nope didnt notice that.

Zoser
July 6th, 2006, 03:19 PM
I just watched 'Momento' from season 6 and it has one of my favorite scenes in it that is totally Stargate - it is the raising of the gate with the sun shining through it. Strangely it reminds me of the barn raising in the movie 'Witness' also a favorite of mine.

desert fox
July 7th, 2006, 05:34 AM
I have liked this episode. It reminded me good old Star Trek : TNG days. First contact with a less developed civilization from space , distrust by each sides etc. Great stuff.

kcouncil
February 17th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Col Ronsen's rank is upside down on his flightsuit. I'm watching SG-1 season 1-10 for the first time and hope they get that small but important (to this Air Force Lt Col) item corrected.

VSS
February 17th, 2008, 02:30 PM
I just watched 'Momento' from season 6 and it has one of my favorite scenes in it that is totally Stargate - it is the raising of the gate with the sun shining through it. Strangely it reminds me of the barn raising in the movie 'Witness' also a favorite of mine.

That's exactly what I thought, too. Even the music.:)

February 25th, 2008, 10:10 PM
Col Ronsen's rank is upside down on his flightsuit. I'm watching SG-1 season 1-10 for the first time and hope they get that small but important (to this Air Force Lt Col) item corrected.

THANK YOU! I thought I was seeing things!!

BTW...The visuals on this episode were fantastic and I REALLY liked the lighting of the interior of the windowed rooms on Prometheus...very realistic!!

jyh
June 6th, 2008, 02:53 PM
I always liked this episode (on now on SciFi). It just seems so 'real': being stranded in an unknown place in the galaxy, trusting new acquaintances (or not), searching for and digging up the buried Stargate. I really like the scene when it's brought out of the ground. I know it's a bit cliche and melodramatic, but pulling it up with the sun slanting through it... it's just cool.

Also realistic how SG-1 comes face to face with someone just like Jack: cynical and suspicious, and quick to try a military solution.

L E E
July 26th, 2008, 01:17 AM
seems like everytime something goes wrong with earth space crafts, it's because of the "instability of naquadria". this is getting to be like "reversing the polarity" thing.

what i like about this episode is the prometheus. and jack being diplomatic. this is not the first time this season that i noticed that he had sort of been channelling daniel. am i the only noticing the change in jack's attitude this season?

L E E
July 26th, 2008, 01:18 AM
I always liked this episode (on now on SciFi). It just seems so 'real': being stranded in an unknown place in the galaxy, trusting new acquaintances (or not), searching for and digging up the buried Stargate. I really like the scene when it's brought out of the ground. I know it's a bit cliche and melodramatic, but pulling it up with the sun slanting through it... it's just cool.


yup. that scene was really cool. best scene in the ep. imho. :cool:

Butlersgate
March 14th, 2009, 07:16 AM
fantastic episode, i don't think these people are mentioned again are they?

Krisz
March 14th, 2009, 07:38 AM
fantastic episode, i don't think these people are mentioned again are they?

No, but I don't think there was much to go back to really. The episode itself was a good one. I really liked it too for the gate raising bit, it echoed the pulling up out of the sand of Earth's gate at Giza in the original movie, that was a nice touch.

It was great episode that explored many parallels that Earth went through. The Daniel like archaeologist who despite the beliefs of his world doggedly pursued the idea that the gate existed and their planet's history was older than officially recorded. The military leader who feared what the gate would bring, what the population would think learining of aliens visiting but the leadership deciding too to keep it from them.

Despite being one of the less popular episodes it is up there amongst my favourites. It captures the spirit of what I feel Stargate is all about, the awe and mystery of new discoveries.

Butlersgate
March 14th, 2009, 08:05 AM
No, but I don't think there was much to go back to really. The episode itself was a good one. I really liked it too for the gate raising bit, it echoed the pulling up out of the sand of Earth's gate at Giza in the original movie, that was a nice touch.

It was great episode that explored many parallels that Earth went through. The Daniel like archaeologist who despite the beliefs of his world doggedly pursued the idea that the gate existed and their planet's history was older than officially recorded. The military leader who feared what the gate would bring, what the population would think learining of aliens visiting but the leadership deciding too to keep it from them.

Despite being one of the less popular episodes it is up there amongst my favourites. It captures the spirit of what I feel Stargate is all about, the awe and mystery of new discoveries.

i thought there was a lot to go back too, they could of been allies in battles with the gou'ld etc. they had similar technology and would of been worthy allies, not ones which always have their own problems or are too advanced to help us out on a regular basis.

Krisz
March 14th, 2009, 11:02 PM
i thought there was a lot to go back too, they could of been allies in battles with the gou'ld etc. they had similar technology and would of been worthy allies, not ones which always have their own problems or are too advanced to help us out on a regular basis.

I guess so, unfortunately it ends up like it did with other potential allies, no time to revisit and they are just a note in the record of planets visited by SGC teams. You do make a good point that the people of this planet had the potential to be a good ally. It would have been interesting to see allies of similar technology joining in with the fight, but I think the leaders of Earth wanted more superior technology than theirs to use against the Goa'uld and that's why races like these were not approached again.

Dinoman
March 30th, 2009, 04:25 PM
I wonder why it was Jack who broadcasted the message to the planet instead of Ronsen, who was the official commanding officer of the vessel. I am glad that Jack did that and totally agreed with the Chairman said about something in Jack's voice gave him confidence that the team is trustworthy.

The Stig
May 15th, 2009, 01:04 PM
it was an ok ep. nothing more

major davis
May 15th, 2009, 01:06 PM
it was an ok ep. nothing more

It was the first stargate ep I ever saw. Lol, aliens with German uniforms.

7/10

major davis
May 15th, 2009, 01:06 PM
fantastic episode, i don't think these people are mentioned again are they?

Unfortunately no.
I would have liked to see a joint mission.

balo
June 1st, 2009, 07:44 AM
This was a great episode!

A bit Star Trek to it in the beginning but loved the Prometheus scenes .
And when they found the stargate.

I wish we could see more from this planet later. Maybe new allies ?

Rating : 8 / 10

mrscopterdoc
March 24th, 2010, 12:49 PM
Good episode, sort of like back to the good old early days.

maneth
October 16th, 2010, 10:11 AM
I really enjoyed this one, great conflict and I think Prometheus is a great ship.

Col. Shadow Quinn
December 31st, 2010, 11:18 PM
From this episode, the speed of the Prometheus' original hyperdrive was 237,383.28c (40.62 Light-years in 90 minutes) and its maximum sublight speed is 1.14c (.38 Light-years in 4 months). I would truly have to congradulate the engineers for making a ship capable of achieving a faster-than-light speed using its sublight drive.

Dave2
December 19th, 2011, 01:15 PM
This is the type of episode I really like. I was intrigued to see Alex Diakun as Tarek, who of course is well-known from appearing in at least 3 or 4 episodes of the New Outer Limits. A reliable character actor always. He did a good job. I'd like to hear alot more about what happened in the case of planets such as Tagrea, Langara and Pangara, whose societies had evolved very close to our own, what their history was like, etc.

I also like this episode because there was nothing gruesome. I abstain from certain episodes that show too much gruesome scenes such as the episode where Baal was killing O'Neil and putting him in the sarcophagus repeatedly. I had to pass on that episode.

LeftHandedGuitarist
January 7th, 2012, 08:22 AM
This is the type of episode I really dislike. Frustrating, dull, bland and predictable with no ultimate lasting impact on either the show as a whole, or myself as a viewer. And boy, I HATE the Prometheus as a story device.

I wasn't a fan of most of the actors in this one either, nor the characters they portrayed. The Prometheus' commander was utterly unnatural and stilted in his performance, the Tagrean commander was a dick and the professor from the library was really creepy. However, Robert Foxworth, who played the chairman, is always good in whatever I see him in.

How fortunate that Teal'c and Jonas uncovered the small piece of the Stargate cover stone which had the explanation of what had happened(!)

I don't think I can sit through the commentary track for this one - it will be the first one I've skipped, so that's a pretty decent run.

On the upside, the episode did have a brilliant dialogue exchange at the start:
- "Teal'c, prepare to assist with damage control."
- "I am prepared, O'Neill."
but, after that's it's all downhill!

RATING: 5 out of 10

mathpiglet
January 27th, 2012, 07:51 AM
I like this episode!

It made me think of how our world would react if the same thing happened to us. Mind you, we haven't hidden our history, but still, what would happen if intelligent aliens (conveniently speaking our language) came for a visit. Would we try to shoot them out of the sky?

Matt G
January 27th, 2012, 01:28 PM
I stuck a VHS in my Halls of Res machine...(I think...)

1. First look at a properly crewed Prometheus.

2. If those aliens mathpiglet was talking about had accidentally set off an EMP in our atmosphere I think we'd be a bit narked!

3. I don't think that professor could have been 'that' devout a follower of Horus.

4. Did we ever seen Col Ronson again?

Decent enough ep.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
January 27th, 2012, 03:38 PM
This was a great episode, and an underrated one at that.

I think this was kind of an origins story with the buried gate, like the beginning of the original movie.

Joel's score during the whole stargate unearthing scene was just awesome (why exactly don't we have original soundtracks yet? Come on Joel).

Monday, I haven't seen that one, all I know is that it's a sequel (kind of) to an earlier episode from this season.

Jae'a
January 30th, 2012, 07:10 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/34862.html)

A 'meh' ep for me.
But I agree about liking the part when they dig up the Stargate, similar to the film. :)

Krisz
January 30th, 2012, 05:54 PM
The discovery and excavation of the gate is what I loved about this episode too, captured the same moment of discovery as in the original movie. The music is great too, really added to the whole awe and mystery of the discovery for the Tigreans.

"These aliens............."

I just loved that idea of a civiliisaton being faced with a visit from people from another planet. It makes it fun that in this case it's people and and a space ship from Earth instilling awe and fear in people of another world.

It's also good that at this point in time in Stargate they still went through trial and error with their ships and technology, still finding that things go wrong and finding inventive ways of getting out of trouble. In this case they had to find a buried gate on a planet of curious yet suspicious people or they were stuck far from home.

This has always been one of my favourite episodes of season six. :)

bookwormjules
January 31st, 2012, 06:10 PM
4. Did we ever seen Col Ronson again?

I don't think we do, but I sort of agree with the statement about him below, perhaps that's why/



.... The Prometheus' commander was utterly unnatural and stilted in his performance, the Tagrean commander was a dick and the professor from the library was really creepy

^ Also, tell us how you really fee! Although I have to say I agree with you on the commander part too.

Overall an enjoyable episode. Was nice to see the Promethus - limited as it was. Man that ship has had it's run and that's before the battle of anterartica, commandered by Vala, blown up my crazed power hungry military aliens

jelgate
January 31st, 2012, 06:48 PM
Ronson appears in Grace. They never did say why he stopped commanding the Prometheus

LeftHandedGuitarist
February 2nd, 2012, 07:45 AM
^ Also, tell us how you really feel!

Haha! I stand by my comments. The episode got me worked up due to how much I disliked the casting choices.

jelgate
February 3rd, 2012, 03:32 PM
You're all nuts. This episode was awesome. It was interesting to see the advantages and disadvantages of the Prometheus of a ship. I kind of like these early years of the ship when it was more of a liablity then an asset. It was not until S8 that the ship actually useful. And I also like the mystery and seeing where the gate is located. I always said Jonas and Teal'c worked well together. This episode highlights thier detective work in locating the gate and activating it once again. Yes I suppose you can can the xenophobic society has been done before but thier are a lot of stories that were done to death in SG1

Lieutenant Sparrow
February 8th, 2012, 04:41 PM
I enjoy this ep.

The start with Prometheus was very cool. Although a bit Star Trekish.

Gotta agree that the Tagrean commander was an ass. Glad he was shut down at the end. Uncovering the Tagrean stargate felt very much like the original movie.

Cluas
January 30th, 2013, 11:12 PM
I liked this one. It shows that there are more planets out there just like earth, where people fight each other in stead of the Goa'uld.
Foxworth was so great as Ashwan, we should have a leader like that, here on earth :jack_new_anime04:

Baron Of Hell
July 8th, 2013, 03:05 PM
I liked this episode but one thing go to me. I might have said this before but it is very wrong to have SG1 always bringing guns with them to situations like this. You know the aliens are going to tell them to drop their weapons.

Falcon Horus
July 9th, 2013, 03:04 AM
There's but one scene that I really, really love and that's the part where they uncover the gate and pull it up from it's grave. It's obviously a hint to the same scene in the film, but I really enjoy watching it. It has a very epic feel.

I also like the gunbatteries positioned around the ship, and the view of the city.

Beyond that, I find this a rather meh episode. Not bad, but not great either.

Fun fact: when Ronson is running his simulation at the beginning, and he orders the weapons ready for launch, the camera turns to the guy sitting at the station. If you look passed him, you can see that space is actually a black curtain with tiny specs of tinfoil attached to it. You can quite literally see the waves in the curtain. Someone forgot to put the background a little out of focus there so you wouldn't notice. Short version: the background looks fake.

I Am Not James Spader
September 19th, 2015, 05:52 AM
O'Neill is driving me insane.

There is far too much snark out of his mouth and disrespect for everyone who isn't Hammond or in SG-1 like mouthing off like a teenager in front of the ship's commander. And listening to that transmission to the planet to stop the attack was a painful tension killer. Keeping calm is one thing, but some urgency in his voice to put across the importance rather than sounding like he is ordering a pizza.

And yet the great soldier and leader is only carted out on occasion like forsaken and Paradise Lost.

Very infuriating.

A great episode though. Comes across in as though it has it has a very, very large scope - the events in space, the first contact, the background of the society, the city and the quest for the Stargate with the political shenanigans. Very epic. I love that the conflict was resolved by Ashwan and not by one of the regular characters. I was convinced that they'd go with the cliched situation of Klafas gunning down the chairman in a last ditch effort to retain power, but I'm glad I was wrong.

Why does Ronson say "full military thrust"? I looked it up and don't understand - is it the maximum thrust without using adding more fuel or something?

Anja
September 23rd, 2015, 12:22 PM
I like this episode!

It made me think of how our world would react if the same thing happened to us. Mind you, we haven't hidden our history, but still, what would happen if intelligent aliens (conveniently speaking our language) came for a visit. Would we try to shoot them out of the sky?

Okay, it's three years later now but I asked myself the same question: Would we have reacted similarly? Well, I do think so.

Cleve
July 4th, 2018, 03:02 PM
I haven't read all the posts here, but has anyone noticed, the chowderhead colonel, the commander of Prometheus is out of AFR 35-10? Or whatever they call it now? His bloody birds are upside down.
He's gotta the laughing stick of the O club.

Falcon Horus
December 22nd, 2018, 04:31 AM
It's an interesting story about trust/mistrust, stuck in a bind, making new friends or possibly enemies and discovering an erased past.

These sort of stories are a dime a dozen, but sometimes it will have a good enough quality to keep you entertained for 42 minutes. This certainly had that for me (didn't in a previous rewatch -- see below).

But Heru'ur isn't Horus. He's Horus the Elder. Probably the only thing that bugged me this time around.

And I still absolutely adore this moment in the episode...


There's but one scene that I really, really love and that's the part where they uncover the gate and pull it up from it's grave. It's obviously a hint to the same scene in the film, but I really enjoy watching it. It has a very epic feel.

************


...I find this a rather meh episode. Not bad, but not great either.

Clearly had a change of heart about its quality since the last time I watched it cause before I considered it just "meh" and now I'm giving it an "excellent" rating.

How would you rate SG-1's "Memento?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

But this still holds true though...


Fun fact: when Ronson is running his simulation at the beginning, and he orders the weapons ready for launch, the camera turns to the guy sitting at the station. If you look passed him, you can see that space is actually a black curtain with tiny specs of tinfoil attached to it. You can quite literally see the waves in the curtain. Someone forgot to put the background a little out of focus there so you wouldn't notice. Short version: the background looks fake.

*************EDIT*************

3-episode quiz: The Changeling, Memento & Prophecy (https://goo.gl/forms/nVdKdL723TrUiO0q2)

Jigsaw puzzle: Memento (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=AJ77297L)

jelgate
December 28th, 2018, 03:43 PM
Pendergast was a much better commander than Ronson. I find myself in agreement with FH. This episode has been done before but their is something about the clunkyness of the Prometheus, and the treasure hunt, and the preferring to live in ignorance that I like. I got 5 seconds on the puzzle but im pretty sure that was a computer glitch:P

Falcon Horus
December 29th, 2018, 03:59 AM
Speedy jigsaw... :p

Flash, is that you?

Who Knows
December 29th, 2018, 05:59 PM
12.54

BethHG
January 8th, 2019, 03:17 PM
10:43 for me

Falcon Horus
January 27th, 2019, 02:12 PM
8:54