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April 30th, 2004, 11:21 AM
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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 616</FONT>
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SG-1 attempts to save a planet's inhabitants from Nirrti's genetic experimentation, but find themselves to be her next victims.

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jenniferhailey
May 3rd, 2004, 11:07 AM
I loved this episode, one of the best in season six.

Jacqueline Samuda, Dion Johnstone, Alex Zahara - 3 cheers

And love the Sam almost...

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stargate barbie
May 9th, 2004, 07:19 PM
I loved this episode, one of the best in season six.


i agree. brilliant ep.
liked the subtle homage to the graduate, with nirtti and jonas.
everyone did a great job in this one, and the lighting in the cell was very cool.

Elwe Singollo
June 20th, 2004, 04:28 PM
I liked the way how they froze the bullet Jack shot. That part was interesting how they did it, they put glass under it, and started shaking it (not exactly what the commentary said, but somewhat close).

bcmilco
June 20th, 2004, 06:49 PM
I very much liked this episode, but why oh why did they have to kill Nirti!?! She had the whole "Genetically Engineering Hosts" story arc and I was really disapointed they killed her so easily :(

Elwe Singollo
June 20th, 2004, 07:09 PM
Yah, i was terribly dissapointed when she died:( The whole Jonas being an uber human was quite interesting. Question though, has Nirriti been played by the same actress throughout the episodes she has been in?

ShadowMaat
June 20th, 2004, 07:09 PM
I very much liked this episode, but why oh why did they have to kill Nirti!?! She had the whole "Genetically Engineering Hosts" story arc and I was really disapointed they killed her so easily :(
It would be interesting to have her come back. Maybe not everyone was willing to listen to Woden and Eggar and they got Nirrti to a sarc. Or the symbiote escaped and has snagged someone else... Granted, it's a million to one chance, but it could happen...

Madeleine
June 20th, 2004, 07:48 PM
I very much liked this episode, but why oh why did they have to kill Nirti!?! She had the whole "Genetically Engineering Hosts" story arc and I was really disapointed they killed her so easily :(

Agreed. I expect it happened because they didn't know there would be another season, but it would still have been a good one to leave open just in case.

bcmilco
June 20th, 2004, 07:53 PM
has Nirriti been played by the same actress throughout the episodes she has been in?

Yup, she has.

ShadowMaat
June 20th, 2004, 08:00 PM
I really liked Jacqueline Samuda's portrayal of Nirrti. She did a particularly good job in this ep, which she co-wrote with James Tichenor. It's one of my favorite eps of the season, although I still wish Nirrti had been a bit more agressive- and devious- in regards to Jonas. I've never known her to take "no" for an answer before, especially not when she has someone at her complete mercy...

Anubis
June 20th, 2004, 11:21 PM
Generally, all Gou'ald don't take no for an answer. I think the Jonas tormenting Nirriti was great

Apepi
June 21st, 2004, 01:45 AM
Why?,,,Hello, shes a Goa'uld[/I] but why oh why did they have to kill Nirti!?! ]

Rak lo najaquna,shelre hara kek Nirrti :eek:

Apepi
June 21st, 2004, 01:53 AM
Why?hello,shes a Goa'uld,thats why.,,,,,,Rak lo Najaquna,shel re Hara KEK :eek:
I very much liked this episode, but why oh why did they have to kill Nirti!?! She had the whole "Genetically Engineering Hosts" story arc and I was really disapointed they killed her so easily :((sorry about last post naffed up,even Gods make mistakes)lol

omnian
June 21st, 2004, 04:42 AM
Those people were kinda icky...especially the one with telekinesis! He had an extra eye in the side of head! I think it was him anyway..............shame they weren't perfected though.

The way Alabran and the Russian died were very X-Men the Movie reminiscent. But I liked it :)

bcmilco
June 21st, 2004, 05:02 PM
Why?hello,shes a Goa'uld,thats why.

No kidding? :eek: :p

I still liked her better then most of the other goa'uld and wish they had kept her aournd to be a thorn in SG-1s side another day. :p

Elwe Singollo
June 24th, 2004, 01:45 PM
:( I miss her... Was this the last time we saw the people of that planet that changed due to Nirriti's experimentation?

bcmilco
June 24th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Was this the last time we saw the people of that planet that changed due to Nirriti's experimentation?

Yes.

Elwe Singollo
June 24th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Other than Jonas's visions, i wish they would at least show a little return of the one of the other psycic people :(

ShadowMaat
June 24th, 2004, 07:16 PM
The point of the ending was that Woden and Eggar were going to undo everything that Nirrti did to them and their people and then destroy the machine. So there are no more psychic mutants running around.

Unless they changed their minds...

Maybe they saved Nirrti, too...

*wistful sigh*

Elwe Singollo
June 24th, 2004, 07:28 PM
*Shock* I forgot about the ending, haha... But that would be interesting if they didn't turn themselves back or something, and Nirriti didn't die, and someone just made a cracking noise, haha... But there goes my imagination :)

Mio
June 24th, 2004, 07:50 PM
Or maybe Nirrti had a ha'tak in orbit...and then was rescued and got healed in the sarc!

::continues wishful thinking::

bcmilco
June 24th, 2004, 11:52 PM
Well she did have to ring down from somewhere when she first arrived :)

*more wishful thinking* ;)

Roatbaum
June 25th, 2004, 12:28 AM
Nirtti was my favorite Bad Girl. I hated to see her go too, and I ws a little put off by whole super human thing re Jonas.I liked the character but I didn't like that part of the storyline and we all know that the "snake heads' don't know how to die.

Elwe Singollo
June 25th, 2004, 12:32 AM
I think Jonas wasn't really 'super human', but he had the just advanced enough human body that Nirriti needed to make her perfect creation, thats what i think, but maybe ur right, that does make him 'super' human, haha..

Selmak
July 11th, 2004, 07:47 AM
I didn't like this episode at all... for some reason.

Anubis
July 11th, 2004, 07:50 AM
For some reason? I like it since Nirriti was back

greytop
July 12th, 2004, 08:19 AM
My favorite part is when right before Nirriti puts Jonas in the gene machine. She looks at the guy who reads minds (I don't remember his name) and he doesn't look at her.

Nirrit: You're not human.
Jonas: I'm human alright but not from Earth.

Jonas steps into the machine and it shows his DNA. It is similiar but yet different. That is what made her interested in him.

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 08:26 AM
I know, I like Jonas's sense of humour

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 08:43 AM
This was one of the better episodes in season6.

AgentX
July 12th, 2004, 08:51 AM
The only reason I tolerated this episode was the presence of Nirriti, she really is an under utilized character.

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 08:07 PM
For some reason? I like it since Nirriti was back
I actually fell asleep during this episode... and I never fall asleep during SG-1.

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 08:09 PM
I like the comment about Jonas' evolution.

I know I'm going to be pelted for this... since it seems that this thread is a Nirriti lovefest... I'm not a big fan of Nirriti.

greytop
July 21st, 2004, 12:21 AM
I know I'm going to be pelted for this... since it seems that this thread is a Nirriti lovefest... I'm not a big fan of Nirriti.
You'e not the only one, Selmak. I don't care for Nirrit either. I'm for the good guys.

ShadowMaat
July 21st, 2004, 04:11 PM
You'e not the only one, Selmak. I don't care for Nirrit either. I'm for the good guys.
Good guys are boring. :P

Or, rather, cheering on only the good guys is boring. I was mildly curious about Nirrti's obsession with genetics as opposed to empire-building, but I never found her very interesting until this ep and that's almost certainly because of her interest in Jonas and what she discovered about his genes.

I wish we'd learned more about that. I wish the writers weren't so determined to scrub all trace of Jonas from their plotlines and to ignore this huge honkin' potential they've built up. *sigh* It could have been really interesting to see exactly what made Jonas different...

greytop
July 21st, 2004, 04:43 PM
I believe that Nirrti want a superior human host for herself. When she had that she was going to make her move but Anubis beat her to it.

Elwe Singollo
July 22nd, 2004, 07:29 AM
I've always thought Nirriti wanted to find the perfect super human of some sort so she could blend with him/her.

Liv
August 23rd, 2004, 04:40 AM
I have a tiny question: Did I hear Walter call Sam "Sir" at the beginning of the episode? She says "Page General Hammond and Colonel O´Neill to the Gate Room." and he replies with "Yes, Sir".

What's up with that? Am I hearing things? Was it a slip-up that was left in, or..?

Anubis
August 23rd, 2004, 04:55 AM
I have a tiny question: Did I hear Walter call Sam "Sir" at the beginning of the episode? She says "Page General Hammond and Colonel O´Neill to the Gate Room." and he replies with "Yes, Sir".

What's up with that? Am I hearing things? Was it a slip-up that was left in, or..?



I'm not sure if this happened, but if it did, I believe that whatever gender you are, you are referred to as sir. I believe the same goes with the Navy too.

Liv
August 23rd, 2004, 05:49 AM
I believe that whatever gender you are, you are referred to as sir. I believe the same goes with the Navy too.
I thought about that, but I'm fairly certain Sam´s been called Ma'am prior to this.

Anubis
August 23rd, 2004, 06:10 AM
I thought about that, but I'm fairly certain Sam´s been called Ma'am prior to this.



I really don't think it matters to who's been spoken to, as long as they don't get insulted, then they won't babble on complaining.

SeaBee
September 19th, 2004, 08:34 AM
For me, this was a very good, if slightly "icky", episode.
I would have liked to see a better ending to Nirti, it seemed a little lame to me, but otherwise a good ep.
Imagine how powerful she would have been, if her "super host" plan had succeeded. A Goa'uld capable of reading minds and killing with just a thought. Now that would be a "baddie". :D

mishy_mo
September 28th, 2004, 03:02 AM
I have a tiny question: Did I hear Walter call Sam "Sir" at the beginning of the episode? She says "Page General Hammond and Colonel O´Neill to the Gate Room." and he replies with "Yes, Sir".

What's up with that? Am I hearing things? Was it a slip-up that was left in, or..?

yes this did happen but it dosen't matter wither they call her Sir of Ma'am as long as they acknowlegde that she is supperior in rank to them

poor walter thats all he ever gets to say

i must admit i did like this episode i could tell the produces and writter where pretty passionate about it

Liv
October 5th, 2004, 12:17 PM
I have a tiny question: Did I hear Walter call Sam "Sir" at the beginning of the episode? She says "Page General Hammond and Colonel O´Neill to the Gate Room." and he replies with "Yes, Sir".

What's up with that? Am I hearing things? Was it a slip-up that was left in, or..?

yes this did happen but it dosen't matter wither they call her Sir of Ma'am as long as they acknowlegde that she is supperior in rank to them
Okay, I buy that. But it still strikes me as somewhat odd that he would refer to her as "Sir", especially since she's been called "Ma'am" before. My point is, I wouldn't find it odd if she was constantly referred to as "Sir".

It's no big deal, sometimes my curious mode just ambushes me and I can't get away. ;)

SeaBee
October 6th, 2004, 02:33 PM
Okay, I buy that. But it still strikes me as somewhat odd that he would refer to her as "Sir", especially since she's been called "Ma'am" before. My point is, I wouldn't find it odd if she was constantly referred to as "Sir".

It's no big deal, sometimes my curious mode just ambushes me and I can't get away. ;)

I have a feeling that she's even been hailed with a "Yessir, Ma'am", which is also a permissable form of address.

Yu`
February 8th, 2005, 08:07 PM
Another Goa'uld bites the dust! a pity too cause Nirtii was a cool villain.

Great story, but why didnt the mind reading dude read anyone elses mind? like Carter or Jonas?

greytop
February 8th, 2005, 08:12 PM
Another Goa'uld bites the dust! a pity too cause Nirtii was a cool villain.

Great story, but why didnt the mind reading dude read anyone elses mind? like Carter or Jonas?
I don't believe he could read Jonas' mind. When they came to get Jonas, he start something before the one who could stop montion stopped him from attacking the one who could read minds because he saw Jonas to start to throw a punch at him. Then when Nirriti looked at the one who could read minds, he only shook his head that he couldn't read his.

Yu`
February 9th, 2005, 12:39 AM
I don't believe he could read Jonas' mind. When they came to get Jonas, he start something before the one who could stop montion stopped him from attacking the one who could read minds because he saw Jonas to start to throw a punch at him. Then when Nirriti looked at the one who could read minds, he only shook his head that he couldn't read his.


Sounds like a good theory, but why not read Carters mind? or Teal'c?

Willow
February 28th, 2005, 04:14 AM
I thought this episode was ok, but not one of my favourites and I agree with those that say the Nirrti storyline was resolved too quickly.

Also, I didn't like the way they didn't even have Jonas playing along with Nirrti for a while when she tried to seduce him. I thought that he would as a means of helping the others. Nor did I like the way they killed off the Russian soldier as again it all seemed a little too neat to me.

Oh and as for Alabran (sp?) all I could think of whenever I heard his name was the cereal All Bran that we've got here :)

Celsius
March 14th, 2005, 08:58 AM
I can't help feeling kinda sorry for Nirrti; I mean she looked so helpless while she was dying. Plus she was a cool villain :(.

And I agree with you guys, the Nirrti-storyline could surely have developed into much more. Maybe a showdown with Cassie would have been cool :D

But Metamorphisis is a cool, but disturbing episode. The guy exploding into water at the beginning was unusally graphic for Stargate, but I liked that Jack was prepared to put the guy out of his misery. Plus the ep kinda relates to the real world, and questions whether fiddling around with DNA is really ethically correct. Overall good stuff.

QuiGonJohn
June 14th, 2005, 04:56 AM
This was a good episode. I think the hand gestures for telekinesis they kinda overdid to copy Star Wars. If you can move things with the power of your mind, why do you need to move your hands?

Galesa72
June 23rd, 2005, 02:33 AM
I was very surprised to know that Jonas was more “evolved” thank the rest of the SG-1. If that is true why his planet was less advanced than ours?

Another thing I don’t understand is why does Nirti need to have Jonas as “king” type of thing “we will rule together the Galaxy”…I thought she is experimenting to get a better host for herself. So it makes sense she wanted to use Jonas’ body for that purpose. But why would she want to “ask” him anything? She is supposed to do it by force. Why all that flirting? She doesn’t need a male anyway to reproduce (Cure? )

jannagalaxy
August 11th, 2005, 09:48 AM
I was very surprised to know that Jonas was more “evolved” thank the rest of the SG-1. If that is true why his planet was less advanced than ours?

Another thing I don’t understand is why does Nirti need to have Jonas as “king” type of thing “we will rule together the Galaxy”…I thought she is experimenting to get a better host for herself. So it makes sense she wanted to use Jonas’ body for that purpose. But why would she want to “ask” him anything? She is supposed to do it by force. Why all that flirting? She doesn’t need a male anyway to reproduce (Cure? )

I think that she wanted him to be her next host.

About reproduce, maybe she wasn't a QUEEN goa'uld. Just another regular snake. Symbyotes have no gender. The goa'uld could of just assumed the form of a female because of the host.

But I do like that last thought. That would be a great story, if she created a child between them or even a clone kind of mixing the genes. It only take a cell (I think) to do that. Imaging what could of been created.

LuvsJonasQuinn
August 18th, 2005, 12:27 AM
Can I just say that an angry Jonas is a hot looking Jonas. Then again, Jonas looks hot no matter what.:D I thinkk Jack was impressed with Jonas when Jonas took a swing at one of them when they were taking him to Nirrti. Nirrti definitely saw something in Jonas's DNA that intrigued her. This episode is one of the ones that makes me wonder if Jonas has Ancient DNA. I'm glad they were able to undo what was done to Sam and Jonas but I feel bad for the Russian colonel dying because I actually kind of liked him.

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 06:20 AM
This was a good episode. I think the hand gestures for telekinesis they kinda overdid to copy Star Wars as we all know thats what they do best on Stargate!

PaddySuuHuu
September 24th, 2005, 03:49 PM
Hi! This is my first post. :) I just watched this episode and I think it was pretty good! My favorite character in SG-1 is Major Carter (of course :D) and in this episode Carter is just so good!

Sorry for my bad English... I'm drunk and I'm from Finland. :)

Metarock Sam
September 25th, 2005, 08:23 AM
This was a good Jonas episode as it showed us how he is more evolved than us and also a good end to Nirrti.

walter_MacChevron
October 31st, 2005, 08:31 PM
Yeah good ending for Nirrti but a slightly below okay eppy...i dont know whenever i think of this eppy i just think "blah"

skeezix
March 22nd, 2006, 06:43 PM
Didn't like this episode much. The alien people were ugly to look at despite the reasoning behind their appearance. The one guy had an eye near the back of his head.... -_- And why did they not bring TERs? They know shes invisible, they have mentioned it several times before. They sweep the base when something is wrong because they suspect it might be Nirrti but when they actually go to kill her they don't bring them? Makes little sense to me. Also, I really hate endings like this one where some local goes from no knowledge to a deus ex machina position wham bam and we're done in 3 minutes. It felt kinda lame to me. But anyway, thats one more goa'uld down.

Gater_Gurl
June 1st, 2006, 09:36 AM
I really liked this episode. I just wish that they wouldn't have killed off Nirrti, she was my favorite.

desert fox
July 7th, 2006, 05:38 AM
bye bye Mrs Mengele/Dr Moreau Nirtii.

Dark Falcon
July 24th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Eww...

The third eye above one of the mutated guy's left ear
made my stomach turn. This episode was creepy. :eek:

But the battle sequence was spectacular.

Two_L's
May 7th, 2007, 06:14 AM
I liked this episode, and not just cause it has a couple of nice S/J moments. ;) I liked the mutant guys, they were pretty cool and I felt sorry for them believing that Nirrti was going to help them. The two guys bursting into water was pretty graphic though, I could barely watch :o It was a good, albeit quick ending for Nirrti too.

JJMPB
September 26th, 2007, 06:42 PM
did anyone else notice that when jonas and carter were coming off the elevator and talking about the nurse jonas wants to ask out carter calls him a chicken sh*t and it wasn't bleeped out


Jake

First
September 26th, 2007, 07:41 PM
LOL I must have missed that! I'll watch it again.

I really liked this ep, cool mutant powers. Dont mess with Wodan! and we even learned Jonas is a little bit special in the gene department.

I liked the part near the end where Jack is trying to telepathically convince Eggar to read Nirrti's mind. No speaking, just Jack's facial expressions say it all!

JJMPB
September 27th, 2007, 06:16 AM
i know lucky i recored it and i had to play it back a bunch of times just to make sure i heard it right also turned on the close caption and that confirmed it cause it bleeped out sh_ _ on it so i was like wow


jake

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
September 27th, 2007, 03:02 PM
We may have learned that Jonas's genes are special but nothing ever came of it :( Even when Anubis captured him (in homecoming 7:02) he said 'His physiology merits further experimentation. He may still prove to be very useful' but still nothing! :mad: I want to know whats so special about Jonas Quinn!

garhkal
September 27th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Maybe something in their mind that allows them greater memory retention/faster learning than a normal person.

First
September 27th, 2007, 07:53 PM
I'd like to know that too. We know he is more advanced than the average human, but still a long way off a true Hoktar. A bit of a missing link really. So maybe he's simply not advanced enough to be of any long term storyline significance other than fast learning ability, with the notable exception of:
The upcoming episode where he predicts the future

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
September 28th, 2007, 05:18 AM
there is that, but we don't really know if the ability to predict the future is because of his more advanced genes or something that Nirrti did to him. I don't think it was a natural ability - it was a brain tumor that would have killed him if he had left it any longer! Still its a good Jonas episode that shows how determined he is to be a useful member of SG-1!

P-90_177
September 28th, 2007, 05:25 AM
i'd say that is actually the best jonas ep of the season too.

L E E
July 25th, 2008, 05:32 AM
ewww. those poor mutated people. it's an interesting episode. just a bit disappointed that it was not explained what made jonas unique. how different is his dna from the tau'ri? is it just him or all kelownans? i know he absorbs information quite fast according to earlier eps. other than that what else is he capable of doing?

i don't get why nirrti was being nice to jonas. what's the point? if she succeeds in turning jonas to become the perfect host, jonas will become her host right? what's with the temptation scene? :confused:

it's nice to see that jack tried talking his way out of his trouble this time. he kind of reminded me of daniel when he was convincing the 2 psi mutants of the true nature of nirrti. :cool:

too bad the russian team leader had to die. i liked him. a good soldier. :(

someone mentioned the ter. they knew they were going to confront nirrti who likes using her invisibility device. why not bring a ter? :confused:

SamJackShipper93
August 9th, 2008, 09:34 PM
Nirrti was my favorite Goa'uld EVER! I just loved the way Jacqueline Samuda played her!

This is one of my favorite episodes, and definetely my favorite from Season 6. Loved the acting, great makeup (Egar and Woden really freaked me out!) and loved the subtle shippy moments between Jack and Sam (points to username!)

Also loved seeing Nirrti in Continuum, wish she would have been in it more!

* * * * * Five out of Five stars from me! ~Jess:)

Butlersgate
March 14th, 2009, 08:02 AM
this was a cool episode, they would kill the russian though wouldn't they haha

Dinoman
March 25th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Anyone notice Wodan looks a bit like Sergeant Harriman?

The Stig
May 15th, 2009, 12:59 PM
I very much liked this episode, but why oh why did they have to kill Nirti!?! She had the whole "Genetically Engineering Hosts" story arc and I was really disapointed they killed her so easily :(

yes it would have been nice to keep her around a little while longer but all good things must come to an end.

Ulkesh47
May 15th, 2009, 01:44 PM
i'd say that is actually the best jonas ep of the season too.
I'd pick "Prophecy", "Redemption", and "Descent" as his best eps.

balo
May 26th, 2009, 07:29 AM
It was an ok episode , but not one of my favourites.

The guys bursting into water was pretty cool. :rolleyes:

Nirtii is dead and I will not miss her.

Rating : 6 / 10

vzzzzzbx
June 6th, 2009, 05:11 PM
The end of Nirrti (Force Choke, anyone?) and the pretty convincing makeup on the mutants were probably the only two memorable things about this episode.

techwork
September 27th, 2009, 10:06 AM
this was a cool episode, they would kill the russian though wouldn't they haha

Do not hurt Kenny. If he not existed, TPTB would have to kill SG-1. Or Harlan worn out to make new copies.;):)

Tachyon
December 1st, 2009, 05:35 AM
Me likey.

It was nice to see the bi**h Nirrti back (tee hee) and the concept of the story was interesting. One of the season 6 highlights for me. :cool:

mrscopterdoc
March 23rd, 2010, 07:59 PM
One of the best episodes of the season. I am glad Nirrti is finally dead.

Pharaoh Atem
March 23rd, 2010, 08:32 PM
One of the best episodes of the season. I am glad Nirrti is finally dead.

it sucks that it took her this long to finally die

mrscopterdoc
March 24th, 2010, 08:59 AM
no kidding

Jacquelyn
April 8th, 2010, 07:48 AM
One of my fave episodes. :D Though Nerrti is both cool and quite annoying. :lol:


Ohh wow when Sam said "Over my dead body." that was a great line. :) And at the end when Sam was dying and Jack just ran in and grabbed her in his arms! :D WOW i LOVED that part. Another one of my fave Sam/Jack moments.

maneth
October 12th, 2010, 08:07 PM
Yeah, loved the Sam/Jack interaction. After Sam had been in the machine and was back in the cell, she rested her head against Jack's shoulder. Awww!

Those poor people were uncommonly ugly, though. But I'm glad that for once it wasn't SG-1, but rather Nirrti's former slaves, who killed her.

LeftHandedGuitarist
January 1st, 2012, 02:33 PM
Strange episode, and somewhat enjoyable but also kind of infuriating, and the mutated villagers are quite annoying in their inability to listen to reason. The conclusion of the episode is also a bit overly simplistic - just look into Nirrti's mind! Could have saved a lot of trouble if he'd done that earlier.

This show does like to kill off Russians, doesn't it?

I would never have guessed that Dion Johnstone was under all that makeup as Wodan. Another strange point - for some reason in this episode I found Nirrti very attractive! Not so much in her previous episodes.

Had to double-check the opening sequence, although the alarm sound partially obscures the word, Carter definitely says "chicken ****", and the DVD subtitles keep it in too. Surprising!

RATING: 6.5 out of 10

Matt G
January 21st, 2012, 03:44 PM
Pretty sure I would up catching this ep on squinty vision - complete with...was it the Care Bears or the Men in Black II song as an alternate theme tune.

1. Interesting to see than Jack and Ivanov seemed to get on relatively well.

2. Woden and crew were certainly ugly.

3. Her head falls on his shoulder...and the shippers went beserk!

4. Nice one Jonas!

5. Scratch Nirrti, wasn't expecting her to bite the dust but...

Good ep.

bookwormjules
January 23rd, 2012, 02:55 AM
Glad Nirrti is gone, but not a favourite episode of mine - it dragged out too long, and I found some of the scenes Jonas was in weren't preformed very well by the actor. Although the scenes between him and Nirrti were amusing.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
January 23rd, 2012, 03:38 PM
Thought it was an average boring episode.

So Nirrti is now dead, killed by her own followers.

Tomorrow, a clip show, and a few more countries will know about the Stargate program.

Krisz
January 23rd, 2012, 05:12 PM
Nirti finally got what she deserved..........killed by one of her experiments!!!

At least they followed up on that storyline that the Russians had their own SG team and we actually got to see them!

Jonas being seduced by Nirti, ugh, made me shudder! Poor guy, having that distorted snakehead voice in your ear! Not really that romantic is it?!!!! :eek:

The horrible disintegrating of bodies into water was well done for the TV budget. Clearly inspired by the fate that befell that senator in the X-Men II movie when he was genetically altered into a mutant. I remember that effect in the Kevn Bacon movie 'Hollow Man' as well.

Jae'a
January 24th, 2012, 08:35 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/34005.html)

I read through this thread, and what's with the Nirrti love fest?? :P
(Glad it's ended with this page though!)
I think she's an awful person, considering the things she does...

I also saw that some people were grossed out by the liquification of the first guy from the planet and the Russian. Hey, you should see some of the gory cr*p my sister watches!! :lol:

jelgate
January 28th, 2012, 01:03 PM
Jack's anti-Russian tendencies seem highly hypocritical but at the same time I'm not surprised given his time on Black Ops. I like seeing the Russian team. I wish it was something that was explored. Redemption established that their would be a Russian team at the SGC but we rarely see said Russian team. I like this episode to show the Russian team interaction. This episode is also one that grosses me out at the genetic muntants are really gross looking in good way. This episode has a love hate for me. I love the exploring and establishing of Jonas being more genetically advanced because of living of Kelowana but I hate and am sad it was never explored because he was dropped in favor of bringing back Daniel. It also seems a cop out to destroy the machine when some good stories could have come from. But it was interesting to see how Nirriti died. I wasn't expecting a neck snap. Quite different in how the System Lords are killed

fems
January 28th, 2012, 01:13 PM
But it was interesting to see how Nirriti died. I wasn't expecting a neck snap. Quite different in how the System Lords are killed

I think they're often pretty creative when killing System Lords or other important Goa'uld.

Lieutenant Sparrow
February 7th, 2012, 07:58 PM
Just an okay ep. Nothing special.

Nirrti's death was cool at least.

Silversi
October 8th, 2012, 07:09 PM
I have a question about the opening credits of this episode. I noticed it the first time through years ago when I watched the eps straight through, and now I noticed again...starting on this episode in the opening credits the scene for RDA's clips have him shooting a gun from 'Paradise Lost' rather then zooming on the Sarcophagus when he was being resurrected after one of the many times that Ba'al tortured him to death episodes earlier. I know its a minor 2 second difference...but any idea why they changed it mid-season for that small little sequence? Do you think that RDA didn't like that shot of himself and wanted something that showed more action? I just thought it was intriguing. I like details. :)

Loved Jonas in this episode!

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 9th, 2012, 06:35 AM
I have a question about the opening credits of this episode. I noticed it the first time through years ago when I watched the eps straight through, and now I noticed again...starting on this episode in the opening credits the scene for RDA's clips have him shooting a gun from 'Paradise Lost' rather then zooming on the Sarcophagus when he was being resurrected after one of the many times that Ba'al tortured him to death episodes earlier. I know its a minor 2 second difference...but any idea why they changed it mid-season for that small little sequence?

According to one of the commentaries, RDA didn't like the shot, so it was changed out.

Seaboe

hedwig
October 9th, 2012, 09:08 AM
The horrible disintegrating of bodies into water was well done for the TV budget. Clearly inspired by the fate that befell that senator in the X-Men II movie when he was genetically altered into a mutant. I remember that effect in the Kevn Bacon movie 'Hollow Man' as well.

Unlikely, since "Metamorphosis" was aired about the same time as X-Men II. :)

Silversi
October 9th, 2012, 12:45 PM
According to one of the commentaries, RDA didn't like the shot, so it was changed out.

Seaboe

Really? That was a full on guess on my part, without even watching the commentaries yet! LoL, I feel kind of proud of myself. Ha, I'm weird that way. :)

chocolateluvr23
December 30th, 2012, 06:38 PM
I was re-watching the episode metamorphosis when i noticed in the beginning walter says "yes,sir" to carter. just wondering if that was a slip up or done on purpose hehe.

garhkal
January 4th, 2013, 02:04 PM
Nope.. Common mil parlance is to refer to ANYONE of officer rank as sir. Some women do prefer it from my navy days..

Anoobis
January 5th, 2013, 12:26 AM
My favorite Nirrti episode, and that's where she earned my "Dirrti Nirrti" nickname. Her dress kicks butt, and I wonder how Jonas could resist so well. He should have at least kissed her, I mean ... I bet she wouldn't have minded. Enjoy the moment, right? He could still kill her afterwards. *lol*

Cluas
January 29th, 2013, 11:16 AM
Cool ep. Nice to see the Russians again
:indeed:

Baron Of Hell
July 7th, 2013, 03:50 PM
Really liked this episode. The one thing I didn't understand was Nirrti's hands, it looked liked they were burnt but nothing was ever said about it. Or was actress in a fire or something and that is how her hands look naturally. Either way she is very attractive.

I love the mutant makeup in this. The third eye was very creepy.

fems
July 8th, 2013, 08:02 AM
Really liked this episode. The one thing I didn't understand was Nirrti's hands, it looked liked they were burnt but nothing was ever said about it. Or was actress in a fire or something and that is how her hands look naturally. Either way she is very attractive.

I love the mutant makeup in this. The third eye was very creepy.

It's been ages since I've last seen this episode but didn't Nirrti have mehndi decorations (henna tattoos) on her hands? Fits with her whole Hindu appearance.

Baron Of Hell
July 8th, 2013, 01:31 PM
It very well might have been tattoos.

Falcon Horus
July 9th, 2013, 02:30 AM
Nirrti's back, and she tries to seduce Jonas. Isn't that just his lucky day... :p

So, she made good on her promise after Rite of Passage (s5) to begin her experiments again, and this time she has a nifty machine to help her in her quest towards creating the perfect host. Clever that one is.
BUT she didn't count on SG1 coming to thwart her plans for world domination. Damn that!

And hey, Jonas and his people are an evolutionary wonder which she would love to study further. Too bad, Jonas isn't in a cooperating mood. She didn't expect him to turn her down, betrayal... it stings. (Fifth can attest to that)

Icky, yet infinitely cool is the guy turning into water... didn't they do that on X-Men as well?

LionHamster
April 8th, 2015, 06:50 AM
Why can't anyone be 2 faced backstabbers in this show like seriously he couldnt have gotten nirrti to make him hoc'tar then killed her

Brother Freyr
April 9th, 2015, 06:37 PM
Why can't anyone be 2 faced backstabbers in this show like seriously he couldnt have gotten nirrti to make him hoc'tar then killed herIt's an interesting way to write the episode, but ask yourself... Looking at the recipients of her other "enhancements," would you want to risk it? :eek:

LionHamster
April 11th, 2015, 05:42 AM
It's an interesting way to write the episode, but ask yourself... Looking at the recipients of her other "enhancements," would you want to risk it? :eek:

Yes

I Am Not James Spader
September 16th, 2015, 09:25 AM
Well that didn't last long.

Right after Paradise Lost, Jack is back to being a twit again.

And it doesn't even make any sense - he gets snarky about the Russians promising to help Alebran (as though they've step over the line by being decent human beings) and in the infirmary he tells the kid "You look fine to me" while Alebran is obviously not fine at all.

And what exactly is Jack's problem with Russians? I still can't figure out why he is so offended by them.

hedwig
September 16th, 2015, 10:43 AM
Nothing was ever explained about Jack's animosity towards the Russians. Just one line could have explained it, but it never happened.

With Alebran, maybe he was just trying (and failing) to reassure the kid that he was going to be fine (which he already knew he wasn't). Parents do that to children all the time.

I Am Not James Spader
September 16th, 2015, 02:34 PM
Nothing was ever explained about Jack's animosity towards the Russians. Just one line could have explained it, but it never happened.

With Alebran, maybe he was just trying (and failing) to reassure the kid that he was going to be fine (which he already knew he wasn't). Parents do that to children all the time.

That lack of explanation has Jack come across as simply prejudiced.

He wasn't trying to reassure Alebran either - Jack's tone and demeanour was very hostile, like he just wanted the kid to go home and stop being a bother.

I was expecting the episode to end with Colonel Chekov getting upset again that another Russian soldier is dead while SG-1 returns unscathed. I don't blame him for being suspicious. :)

Anja
September 23rd, 2015, 01:19 PM
Nice!!!!!!
Wonderful characters, the Russians, sexy Nirrti, a loyal Jonas and SG1 in desperate need of help. Carter one feet from hell, people turning into water, O'Neill in distress.
Not one boring second.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
September 24th, 2015, 06:22 AM
Right after Paradise Lost, Jack is back to being a twit again.

This is why, by the time RDA left the show, I was ready to wave his character goodbye. He was my favorite, but they turned him into such an idiot by the end that I was glad to see him go.

Seaboe

Nirude
June 16th, 2016, 01:00 PM
Nice!!!!!!
Wonderful characters, the Russians, sexy Nirrti, a loyal Jonas and SG1 in desperate need of help. Carter one feet from hell, people turning into water, O'Neill in distress.
Not one boring second.
Sleeping with a Goa'uld would be.. um, very weird. Just my thoughts :P

Anja
June 17th, 2016, 01:27 AM
We were made to believe that Jonas was tricked into bed with Nirrti - I don't know if sth happened, he was unconscious or at least heavily drugged. Ask Daniel, he definitely did it in Hathor.

jelgate
June 17th, 2016, 05:13 AM
Both were seduction. Beyond that is blind inference

Anja
June 19th, 2016, 01:42 AM
Both were seduction. Beyond that is blind inference

Daniel did it, the larvae were supposed to have his genes! (He told that to Dr Fraiser)

jelgate
June 19th, 2016, 06:48 AM
Their are numerous ways to get DNA. Especially if you want to factor in science fiction

Anja
June 20th, 2016, 01:01 AM
Which way did Hathor choose if not the pleasant one?

Falcon Horus
June 20th, 2016, 03:29 AM
Which way did Hathor choose if not the pleasant one?

She raped Daniel to get it. Nothing pleasant about it.

jelgate
June 20th, 2016, 05:28 AM
Nice try Anja but I'm not falling for that trap.

Anja
June 21st, 2016, 04:07 AM
Nice try Anja but I'm not falling for that trap.

What trap?

jelgate
June 21st, 2016, 12:54 PM
Absence of a reason doesn't make my point wrong

Anja
June 22nd, 2016, 10:35 AM
Absence of a reason doesn't make my point wrong

Doesn't make it right either!

jelgate
June 22nd, 2016, 12:47 PM
The same could be said about your theory

Anja
June 23rd, 2016, 12:06 AM
The same could be said about your theory

Indeed!!!

BethHG
July 10th, 2018, 04:10 PM
1. Interesting to see than Jack and Ivanov seemed to get on relatively well.

2. Woden and crew were certainly ugly.

3. Her head falls on his shoulder...and the shippers went beserk!

4. Nice one Jonas!

5. Scratch Nirrti, wasn't expecting her to bite the dust but...

Good ep.

I agree with this.

I am really tired of the poor Russians being the red shirts though. :mad: I really liked it besides that. :)

Falcon Horus
November 25th, 2018, 05:56 AM
Okay, onwards...

I don't know how I felt before about this episode, but today I'm OK with it. It's a good, solid story as far as I'm concerned. Nirrti is definitely one of my favorite Goa'uld around, and she gets a fitting end. She had it coming.

We all knew she was going to continue her experiments so when Ivanov and his team arrive back with Allebran, we're not surprised to learn she's still at it, and she's still killing people with her research. She's the Goa'uld version of Doctor Mengele. :S

But it's nevertheless fascinating to see how far she's come, and how far Jonas Quinn is ahead of Earth humans too. That scene though when she's courting him... Yikes! Rejection stings, even for a Goa'uld. :p

Carter would never have been killed off so there was never any danger for her. Ivanov, on the other hand, he was a dead man the moment he requested to join the off-world op.

How would you rate SG-1's "Metamorphosis?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

jelgate
December 9th, 2018, 04:35 AM
Look FH and myself made it on TV. I think we did good as brothers. We had to makeup for our look.

This episode always leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Their was so much potential in the Jonas arc that was dropped because the writers had to bring back Daniel. Besides my rant its an average episode of what you'd expect from SG1. Fair

Falcon Horus
December 10th, 2018, 01:47 AM
Look FH and myself made it on TV. I think we did good as brothers. We had to makeup for our look.

Beauty's on the inside... (the outside is a bonus) :p

Falcon Horus
December 19th, 2018, 02:34 PM
3-episode quiz: Metamorphosis, Disclosure & Forsaken (https://goo.gl/forms/xHc0qwPR7KdvrbwB2)

Jigsaw puzzle: Metamorphosis (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=HGX3NQ80)

Who Knows
December 19th, 2018, 07:37 PM
17.14. Way too psycadelic http://i.imgur.com/VGeVM47.jpg

Falcon Horus
December 20th, 2018, 07:31 AM
17.14. Way too psycadelic http://i.imgur.com/VGeVM47.jpg

:lol:

Chaka-Z0
December 20th, 2018, 10:23 AM
17.14. Way too psycadelic http://i.imgur.com/VGeVM47.jpg

Your profile pic perfectly matches your comment.

Falcon Horus
December 20th, 2018, 12:34 PM
Your profile pic perfectly matches your comment.

Cannot be unseen... :p

Falcon Horus
December 22nd, 2018, 02:05 PM
Few... psychelic and kinda hard --> 12:02

jelgate
December 22nd, 2018, 02:39 PM
It is quite a difficult because of the random colors. 10 minutes 1 seconds

hedwig
December 22nd, 2018, 04:52 PM
11:37

BethHG
January 8th, 2019, 02:11 PM
Your profile pic perfectly matches your comment.


:lol:

13:34