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    What could the Asgard do

    Heres an idea about what a real Asgard warship could do:

    The Asgard have the knowledge to build a time diletion device, and from the encounter with the replicators they know it can be used to make time move faster.
    Just because Thor didn't know how they did it doesn't means the Asgard can't figure it out. Thor is afterall a "soldier" not a scientists.

    So, Part 1, install such modified time diletion device on a O'Neill Class.
    LEts say it can make the time flow 1000 times as fast, this gives the ship a trendemous advantage against all other ships, because with as fast as weapons travel in stargate, it can easily dodge them with out even trying by just crusing along.
    Second, in the time frame it fires normaly one shot, it can fire 1000 shots, and since the time is compressed when firing those shots, they will end up at the same spot. Greatly affecting their damage potential since its so concentrated.

    Next, they know about the replicator distruptor and it stands to reason they where told about the dakara device. And both use the same principle.
    Therefore the asgard should be able to rigg the disruptor tech to affact, say starships and demolecurize them. And dakara showed that the disruptor wave goes right through replicator enhanced shields. Worth a try if it goes through Ori shields.

    Third give them the plans for the Ori satellite, they should be able to figure out how to power it, or atleast how the beam penetrates most lesser kinds of shields and develop a defense against it.
    Even if they get it to fire at full strength only every 10 minutes, in time diletion mode its still firing every 0.6 seconds ...

    Now we are combining this all into say the Teal'C Class battlecruiser....

    That is a serious can of whoopass against anyone.

    #2
    I like the idea, but allow me to be the 1st to poke holes.

    The Asgard are A. not smart enough or should I say are not open minded enough to do that. also at 1000 times, 1 sec to us is 16mins for that ship. So a 15 min battle would be 10.4 days. You really shorten the life span of the ship and its crew with such a trick. For all you know they might already be doing it as a loclaize effect for their weapons, so a 2nd time dialection device would not work.

    I however like the idea of Organic Armour grown in such a fashion.

    As for the distruptor, even the Asgard are not sure how it works, they for many reasons, still in the stone age comapred to the this stuff.

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      #3
      For the shields I suspect that they already found a way of blocking the weapon, see the camelot our shields were effective in that battle, now if only they made the upgrade to the ha taks.

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        #4
        Yes, exceppt that from the view of the crew the battle is going normal and the emeny ships are basicaly standing still.
        If a battle would last 15 mins real time, as it would on the dileted ship, however to us outside the time diletion, the battle would indeed be over in 1 second.

        As for the distruptor, i would say maybe, maybe not. Thor only said he doens't realy know how it works when o'neill build it, we don't know if the asgard scientists made progress since then, but some progresse they had certainly made by reckoning with a modified disruptor.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Deckker
          As for the distruptor, even the Asgard are not sure how it works, they for many reasons, still in the stone age comapred to the this stuff.

          They must know how it works, how else were they able to construct a satalite that could fire the disrupter beam.

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            #6
            I don't think time dilation fields and disruptor weapons are going to work. It would just be to easy. However, if we could get Hetaks upgraded with enhanced sheilds, even at half the strength of our sheilds they would own. Ori weapons reduced Deadie's sheilds to 60% in one shot. Then down to 40% in the next. Thats an average of 30% damage each shot. That ensures that, even at half the strength of Deadie's sheilds, the Hetak would survive atleast the first shot. Can't say that much for their current sheilds. All we would have to do is run evasive manuevers while opening fire. Several Hetaks were able to avoid Ori fire this way, but not long enough to make a difference. Its also important for them to concentrate fire on one ship at a time.

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              #7
              Well, the first shot toke the shields down to 50%
              But yes, the time diletion and disruptor will not be used, because it would work and be rather easy. the writers don't like to let us use the available tech. they prefere to invent plot devices and forget all the other stuff in doing so.

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                #8
                Who says that the Ori ships don't have Time Dilation Blockers.
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                  #9
                  I said it in another thread and don't think the time dilation field would work on a ship. Everything we have seen before show that time dilation fields fixed locations and not ship based, possibly be because ships power other systems and a time dilation would be too much for a ship engine. Also in both cases the time dilation field was used it was used over a comparitively large area or a planet sized thing.

                  The Asgard could easily create something like the disruptor but modifying it is something completely different I mean its not exactly an easy thing to accomplish.


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                    #10
                    The Asgard could pull what your saying off as they can just move to a different body. They could work for 10,000,000 years and find a way to beat the Ori in 10 minutes.
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                      #11
                      if they fired the weapons at that kind of rate at the same spot the shots may in fact destroy each other, if they are plasma based like hat'ac weapons then they definitely will, pure energy weapons may merge to form one big shot. If they are plasma based they could just use weapon that fires a stronger shot and needs to charge it would no time at all with the dialation

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                        #12
                        Why don't the Asgard just put the time dilation device on their own planet and make it goes as fast as say 100 years per second like what the replicators did so they'd actually have like a million odd years for advancement in a single day.
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                          #13
                          They might forget who O'Neill is.
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