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SG-12
March 11th, 2006, 04:10 PM
In season 8's Mobius when the puddle jumper destroyed the hatak, was it because it hit vital systems or because its weapons were really powerful?

Anubis1989
March 11th, 2006, 04:16 PM
It hit vital systems, only 2 drones were used. Hundreds...thousands were needed to defeat anubis' fleet on 30+ ships in lost city part 2

SG-12
March 11th, 2006, 04:19 PM
Are you sure it was firing drones? they didn't look like it. I thought it was an energy based weapon.

Anubis1989
March 11th, 2006, 04:23 PM
well the ship was a puddle jumper and the puddle jumpers in atlantis fire drones and that puddle jumper did originally come from atlantis so i assume they r drones, they look like them to me

Chutzpah
March 12th, 2006, 07:34 PM
From what i have seen, drones don't explode on impact. They just keep ripping through the ship until it's destroyed. Anubis had like 35 ships? Including at least one mother ship and they wereprobably upgraded with Anceint knowledge. Two drones would have taken ages to destroy them.

generaloneill
April 8th, 2006, 10:09 AM
In season 8's Mobius when the puddle jumper destroyed the hatak, was it because it hit vital systems or because its weapons were really powerful?

you got the episode where o'neill destroyed a mothership mixed up it wasn't moebius it was it's good to be king the episode with colonel maybourne:mckay:

NakedJehutyV2
April 8th, 2006, 10:40 AM
it's called the time (puddle) jumper.


it hit vital parts

O'Neil
April 8th, 2006, 11:00 AM
From what ive seen, drones seem to have a mind of their own, or can be controled thru mind control from whoever is sitting in the chair.

In "Rising", Shepperd told Ford to look for a weapons console, and the side hatches opened up, and 1 drone shot out, and immediately turned around. Shepperd didnt do that, cause the expression on his face was one of confusion, so that tells me that the drones have a mind of their own.

The 2 drones that were fired by the time jumper, (O'Niell was flying) must have known were vital parts were at and took them out in a hurry.

tomchris45
April 8th, 2006, 11:07 AM
From what ive seen, drones seem to have a mind of their own, or can be controled thru mind control from whoever is sitting in the chair.

In "Rising", Shepperd told Ford to look for a weapons console, and the side hatches opened up, and 1 drone shot out, and immediately turned around. Shepperd didnt do that, cause the expression on his face was one of confusion, so that tells me that the drones have a mind of their own.

The 2 drones that were fired by the time jumper, (O'Niell was flying) must have known were vital parts were at and took them out in a hurry.

No they don't have a mind of their own, they are however controlled by someones mind. Although Sheppard didn't realise he fired, we did want to fire, and he wanted to fire at the ship that was firing at him (if I remember correctly). The ship read this from his mind and fired at the ship. The same way as if you wanted to fire at a ship on say daedalus, u'd select the ship you want to target and press the fire button. Just the jumpers are more instantaneous.

Bragi
April 8th, 2006, 11:10 AM
From what i have seen, drones don't explode on impact.

Yeah, yet another thing that depends on the plot. Sometimes they blow up on impact (like Rising, and the Tower) and other times they rip right through their target (Lost City 2).

If I'm a writer, I say it depends on the person controlling them, what he wants the Drone to do. So Sheppard wanted to blow up the Darts (because he didn't know Drones could impact something without blowing up), so they exploded on impact. O'Neill, having the Ancient repository in his mind at the time, knew that Drones could pass through targets without detonating and still destroy their targets.

But as I lament almost every day.... I'm not a staff writer.....

talyn2k5
April 8th, 2006, 11:36 AM
I think you`ve come up with the most logical explanation there Bragi. Its certainly the best explanation i`ve seen (although I may`ve seen the same explanation somewhere before.)

FYI: I don`t think the TJ in Its Good To Be King was the same as the one from Before I Sleep. In BIS the other Lantians ordered that TJ destroyed. Considering how annoyed they were I would think they`d make sure it was destroyed and not just take Janus' word for it.
He probably just built another one behind their backs when they came through the Stargate back to the Milky Way. Plus the IGTBK TJ had MW glyphs on it whereas the BIS TJ had Pegasus glyphs. He may`ve changed them but I think its more likely that the IGTBK TJ is a different one to the BIS TJ.

*Puddle Jumper One departing from Acronym Hell in 2 minutes.*

O'Neil
April 8th, 2006, 07:25 PM
No they don't have a mind of their own, they are however controlled by someones mind. Although Sheppard didn't realise he fired, we did want to fire, and he wanted to fire at the ship that was firing at him (if I remember correctly). The ship read this from his mind and fired at the ship. The same way as if you wanted to fire at a ship on say daedalus, u'd select the ship you want to target and press the fire button. Just the jumpers are more instantaneous.



What about the drone in the very beggining (in Rising) that was activated by Beckett in the chair. The radio in the chopper said, "There is a rogue drone, that can seek a target on its own, land immediately!"

If it was a rogue drone, and could seek out a target on its own, then certainly, they have a mind of their own when not controlled by ones thoughts.

Mattathias2.0
April 8th, 2006, 07:46 PM
I believe that since they are an interface... that they are controlled by the mind... which I suppose that could mean either they could find the info either in the ships computer, or the driver, or both to complete the task desired.

That's my take on it. I include these episodes within my theory: It's Good To Be King, Rising, Before I Sleep, and The Siege.

Mattathias

Steve_the_Wraith
April 9th, 2006, 07:33 AM
Yeah, yet another thing that depends on the plot. Sometimes they blow up on impact (like Rising, and the Tower) and other times they rip right through their target (Lost City 2).

If I'm a writer, I say it depends on the person controlling them, what he wants the Drone to do. So Sheppard wanted to blow up the Darts (because he didn't know Drones could impact something without blowing up), so they exploded on impact. O'Neill, having the Ancient repository in his mind at the time, knew that Drones could pass through targets without detonating and still destroy their targets.

But as I lament almost every day.... I'm not a staff writer.....
Sounds good but also remember that the jumper drones are different than the chair weapon drones

The jumper Drones are smaller oranger and seem to explode on impact
The chair weapon drones are larger whiter and bore through targets

Harekin
April 9th, 2006, 12:13 PM
Also in Before I Sleep they didnt look like drones...they popped out from a different part of a ship than the drones usually do, fired and then retracted immediately. Im convinced they were an energy weapon, not drones.