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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 601</FONT>
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Tragedy reunites Teal'c with his son, who blames him for the death of his mother. O'Neill and Carter launch a risky plan with untested technology when Earth comes under attack by the Goa'uld.

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jenniferhailey
May 3rd, 2004, 11:16 AM
Redemption. Rocks.

Now this was one of the best episodes/arcs of Stargate history.

Nice to see the return of SIMMY!!!!!!!!!! <swoon> and also Ryac.

It was just a great opener. And David Hewlett was a major bonus!

This and Within the Serpents Grasp are amongst the best of Stargate. :D

omnian
June 21st, 2004, 04:37 AM
Great season opener. Was wondering where Drey'auc (?) had gotten to. Shame she had to die though....

Loving the X-302 as well. Shame it doesn't feature more often. :(

Elwe Singollo
June 22nd, 2004, 01:03 AM
Because its always broken, haha... Well not 'broken', but not working how they want it to work, ahh, nvm, you know what i mean. I was touched when we saw the sad look on Teal'c's face :(

Apepi
June 22nd, 2004, 04:37 AM
Redemption 1+2 rocks, the McCay and Carter thing was great,the X302 was great,and i will agree with an earlyer post by Jennifier, this and "within the sepents grasp is by far some of the best work MGM have done,hope season eight lives up to this"LETS KEEP ARE FINGERS CROSSED" Its a strange thing us Humans do for luck (lol) :eek:

Elwe Singollo
June 22nd, 2004, 09:58 AM
From what i've read, imo, the premiere(S8) looks interesting to me:)

Anubis
June 22nd, 2004, 10:10 AM
Good bonding between McKay and Carter. And the rise of Anubis

sgeureka
July 6th, 2004, 09:27 AM
I remember watching the episode for the first time (without big spoilers) and thinking "Boring, we already covered that in Serpent's song". Still, it's one of my most-watched episodes of S6 (that's what you get for having Revelations - Redemption1 - Redemption2 - Decent on tape in that order :p )

I loved to see McKay back, didn't have any poblems with Jonas because by the time I watched it I knew MS would be returning for S7, and (talking about Pt 2 here) I would have never guessed the solution to how to stop the gate from blowing up Earth (although I have heard that even twelve-year olds could come up with the solution :( :) )

Selmak
July 11th, 2004, 07:36 AM
Did Anubis build that device with his Ancient knowledge or did the Ancients already build it.

Anubis
July 11th, 2004, 07:38 AM
It was an ancient device so I'm guessing the ancients built it and Anubis just located it and used it against us

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 08:23 PM
I guess after it was destroyed it was possible for him to rebuild the device with his Ancient knowledge.

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 08:40 PM
There was a great scene where ry'ac was beating teal'c.

Lugal
August 20th, 2004, 07:30 AM
I noticed Anubis' hologram was as tall as the stargate, but Anubis himself is only about as tall as Daniel. I think he has issues with his height. :D

greytop
August 20th, 2004, 01:38 PM
I noticed Anubis' hologram was as tall as the stargate, but Anubis himself is only about as tall as Daniel. I think he has issues with his height. :D
He does. He thinks he above everyone else. :eek:

Anubis
August 20th, 2004, 02:42 PM
I noticed Anubis' hologram was as tall as the stargate, but Anubis himself is only about as tall as Daniel. I think he has issues with his height. :D

He does. He thinks he above everyone else. :eek:


It's probably projected larger as it goes through, although I haven't a clue why!


*I am above everyone else!:p *

SeaBee
September 19th, 2004, 08:43 AM
Good opening episode.
Lots of by-play between McKay and Carter, and it was nice to see Rya'c and Bra'tac again.

TheWarrior
February 8th, 2005, 04:57 AM
It's probably projected larger as it goes through, although I haven't a clue why!


*I am above everyone else!:p *


Could be to make himself seem more powerful to us and other humans. Camera shots that make people taller show their power over those who are looking up to him etc.

I liked this episode alot - the episode started off slow but got going. I also felt the change in direction, I mean the end of Season 5 did slump abit, and this started off great.

Seeing McKay in Part I and Part II, you can see why the producers bought him into Atlantis, he has changed since 48 Hours and was great in this episode.

PugGate
May 6th, 2005, 05:10 PM
I liked it when Teal'c, Bra'tac, and Ry'ac ringed down and the guards said, 'identify yourselves," and Teal'c starts shooting everybody.

"You're creeping me out McKay." :D :D

I wonder if the Ancient weapon is powered by a ZPM?

McKay: "What's the little alien guy <Jonas> doing?" :D :D

I would've thought that the Airforce would've taken the Abydos gate before they would rent the Giza gate from the Russians

valaCB
May 14th, 2005, 01:58 AM
excellent epi and so is part 2

QuiGonJohn
June 8th, 2005, 06:10 AM
I liked the season opener. Will watch part 2 tonight. They showed a lot of Jonas early on, then he seemed to be forgotten about for a while. But then they did go back to him.

Stricken
June 17th, 2005, 03:20 AM
Redemption 1+2 rocks, the McCay and Carter thing was great,the X302 was great,and i will agree with an earlyer post by Jennifier, this and "within the sepents grasp is by far some of the best work MGM have done,hope season eight lives up to this"LETS KEEP ARE FINGERS CROSSED" Its a strange thing us Humans do for luck (lol)

JanusAncient
June 17th, 2005, 04:18 AM
Ry'ak was pretty awesome too, can't forget those Jaffa, and their children. Also, that Ancient weapon, the way it looked was just great! The Ancients really can design a weapon!

walter_MacChevron
October 31st, 2005, 08:02 PM
Yeah, these episodes were pretty cool and i loved that ancient weapon!!!

Darkstar
May 17th, 2006, 06:41 AM
Just seen the episode last night, great shots of the X-102 and the gate underneath, great ideas here and i forgot how good this was!!!! :D

captain jake
May 19th, 2006, 09:27 PM
Ya it was a great episode.

timdalton007
May 23rd, 2006, 06:48 AM
Just seen the episode last night, great shots of the X-102 and the gate underneath, great ideas here and i forgot how good this was!!!! :D

I think you're refering to Part 2. Anyway, this was a terrific episode (refering to part 1). The episode was well written and even had a diffrent feel to it then the episodes ebfore it. I don't why but the episode seemed...different somehow. I don't know if it was the style, the writing, or what but it seemed diffrent like the start of a new chapter in SG-1. But the acting was good espeically between McKay and Carter. The Teal'c subplot worke dout well also in adding some emotion to the episode. I give this episode a 8/10.

timdalton007

Amanda Eros
May 23rd, 2006, 06:55 AM
I thought that it was a great two parter. I loved the writing style and the character development. Carter and McKay were funny, and Jonas was so cute!

scifi_girl
May 24th, 2006, 10:30 AM
I thought that it was a great two parter. I loved the writing style and the character development. Carter and McKay were funny, and Jonas was so cute!

i agree with you. i wasnt sure about whether i would like jonas, but i ended up liking him a lot

angelfire east
December 19th, 2006, 10:03 PM
Good episode.

LOL @ Jonas in this episode. He's so chearful:D I love the thing he has for the whether channel, asking Sam about what color to wear, and crossing his figures. And how could I forget the boxing :lol: He's like one of those dools, you knock him down and he just pops back up right away:D I wonder if he did somehow knock Teal'c down or if Teal'c was impressed enough with him to speck to Jack on his behalf?

I like the Sam/Jonas friendship, I don't see the big problem some people have with it. I did see Sam not really wanting him to join the term (it's too soon and he's too involed) so I wonder if that going to come into play or if I'm seeing somethign that isn't there.

Loved all the X-301 scenes

Rodney was brilliant, I love his interaction with Sam and Jonas.

Poor Teal'c, it' was nice seeing his fmaily again and hacing some closer with his wife.

I hear that Colonel O'Neill's "injured leg" was based on his real-life injury which he had carrying his 3-year old daughter in which he fell just days before filming begun. Anyone know if that true?

oh yeah LOL at all the food Teal'c had when he was talking to Jack. THe boy can sure pack it away.:lol:

Two_L's
April 15th, 2007, 06:54 AM
The episode was well written and even had a diffrent feel to it then the episodes ebfore it. I don't why but the episode seemed...different somehow. I don't know if it was the style, the writing, or what but it seemed diffrent like the start of a new chapter in SG-1.

I got this feeling as well. For me, I think it might have something to do with Daniel not being around anymore and I feel like O'Neill, Teal'c and Carter have kinda changed because of it. Not in a bad way though, but more like you said, as though it is a 'new chapter' in their lives. O'Neill in particular seemed different in this two parter. He was still making jokes, but there was something there that I couldn't quite put my finger on. I think he was quieter than usual, more-so in the second part.

The interaction between Carter and McKay was great, even though I can't stand him :P

I really like Jonas, he's cute and I love how happy he always is :D However, he isn't Daniel so I can understand why Jack and Sam don't want anyone to replace him :(

The scenes between Teal'c and Ry'Ac are very touching and I also love the scene where O'Neill calls Carter an 'egghead' :lol: Good episode to start the season!

VOOK
January 6th, 2008, 05:33 AM
Just finished rewatching this episode, loved it when I think about the episode I think It must of been one of those earlier episodes when the Earth was again in trouble but nope it was in S6.

8/10

ijffdrie
January 8th, 2008, 04:21 AM
just thinking: should polls be added to the episode threads so we can say how we liked em?

Chezlee
January 20th, 2008, 10:57 AM
just thinking: should polls be added to the episode threads so we can say how we liked em?

not a bad idea. On topic, I like this episode basically because of mckay and carter. A lot of peopel think he is annoying because he is so sarcastic and mean...I like him like that and I like him a bit less in recent Atlantis episodes because he isnt really like that anymore :(

captain jake
July 4th, 2008, 07:26 AM
The death of Drey'auc was a sad but excellent way to demonstrate the mortality of the Jaffa. If the SGC and Jaffa rebellion cannot find a way to free themselves from the need to carry an infant Goa'uld than they will never be able to wipe out the Goa'uld for good. We also get a glimpse of the future space program of Earth. The X-302 accompanied with an experimental hyperspace generator shows us that having a platform to go into the galaxy and fight the Goa'uld on an entirely different front is not far off. In all this is a great episode.


just thinking: should polls be added to the episode threads so we can say how we liked em?

If you go to the episode guide of Gateworld you can look at any Stargate episode and rate it from 1 to 10. There is no need for polls on the individual episode threads.

generaloneill
July 22nd, 2008, 06:21 AM
Rodney was brilliant, I love his interaction with Sam and Jonas.


I hear that Colonel O'Neill's "injured leg" was based on his real-life injury which he had carrying his 3-year old daughter in which he fell just days before filming begun. Anyone know if that true?



that is true an issue of tv zone that i have ran an sg-1 special that listed the highs and lows of sg-1 season by season one of the lows for season 6 was

The unexplained disappearance of the O'Neill character in the first half of story (in real life actor RDA injured his knee explaining his reduced involvement in this episode)

they could have put in a line that said his injury had started bothering him and that he went to the infirmary and doctor fraiser told him to lie down and rest his leg.

L E E
August 2nd, 2008, 10:22 PM
good ep. because of the x-302, the mackay/carter scenes. i really really love it when o'neill is in fighter pilot mode.

A Wraith Named Bob
August 8th, 2008, 08:56 PM
I watched this episode today and I thought it had great emotion in it.

Colonel Carter
December 17th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Did Anubis build that device with his Ancient knowledge or did the Ancients already build it.

Yes the Ancient's built it, in fact, very early in the Gate program. Well their Gate program. It's not a weapon and in fact has a very, very specific purpose that is integral to the entire gate system.

Colonel Carter
December 17th, 2008, 07:15 PM
I wonder if the Ancient weapon is powered by a ZPM?


Nope, not ZPM powered. It's not that complex or powerful. It looks bigger than it is. If it was ZPM powered, when Ry'ac blew it up, it would have wiped out the whole planet.

Butlersgate
March 14th, 2009, 08:41 AM
i love that this episode ended on jack saying "oh for crying out loud"

Dinoman
March 19th, 2009, 04:53 PM
Jonas is a lovely and cheerful character. He keeps his hope in joining SG1 after stucking 3 months in SGC doing nothing but reading through Daniel's works! He is a bit like Daniel in the early seasons but he gives thoughts way beyond the books in a subtle way. When he asked question on how to get the Stargate into the mountain I think he already had an answer in mind.

I also sense some differences in Jack: he seems to be more serious and less playing around. I watched MacGyver protrayed by RDA before watching SG1 and in the early seasons I cound not stop thinking that 'Jack looks like MacGyver'. But from this season onwards I can really tell the difference between the 2 characters: 'This is really Jack O'Neill!'.

Dinoman
March 19th, 2009, 04:56 PM
I should have post my reply in the Part 2 thread, sorry!

Commander Aegir
March 20th, 2009, 12:18 PM
I like the relationship between Ryac and Tealc because it hadn't really featured much until this episode. Some great acting from Chris and Neil.

Detritus
April 22nd, 2009, 01:10 PM
I love Jacks humor in this episode.....

HAMMOND
Colonel Checkov feels that as a symbol of our joint efforts, a Russian officer should be assigned to join SG-1.

O'NEILL
Over my rotting corpse, Sir.

HAMMOND
Colonel…

O'NEILL
I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?

HAMMOND
I said I would discuss it with you and that I was sure you would give it some careful thought.

O'NEILL
And that I will, General, but I'm still pretty sure I'll say…'bite me'.



Doesn't pull any punches at all concerning his feelings about the Rusians,

balo
May 5th, 2009, 07:35 AM
What a way to start Season 6 ! Great acting by everyone.

McCay and Carter had some funny moments too... :mckayanime22:

the X-302 scenes was brilliant , hope we can see more of it later

Rating : 8 / 10


:mckayanime18:

The Stig
May 11th, 2009, 10:56 PM
The X-302 is so cool. They should bring it back. Chris Judge was good in this ep. And RDA was funny as usual.

vzzzzzbx
May 24th, 2009, 07:29 PM
Good episode to kick off Season 6. In typical bad guy style Anubis spouting the cliches, these types never learn.

MyzteriouZ
June 22nd, 2009, 06:53 PM
Poor Teal'C, he's had a rough few episodes here, from being fooled by a minor Goa'uld in The Warrior, To losing one of his best friends in Meridian, to now losing his wife...even for a hardcore Jaffa Warrior that has to be tough times :(

jsonitsac
August 22nd, 2009, 05:51 AM
This is a pretty solid season opener in my opinion, it opens a few new threads, Jonas Quinn, the X-302, etc. but also creates some new conflicts: How will the rebel Jaffa live? What does Anubis have in store for Earth, etc.? Great way to kick off a new season. ****.5

mrscopterdoc
March 21st, 2010, 12:34 PM
Jack is still funny, and I still miss Daniel. Jonas is actually quite funny and likable though.

maneth
October 5th, 2010, 10:47 AM
I miss Daniel like hell, but Jonas is growing on me. Poor guy, he had a tough start. I still want to punch McKay, though! I hope we'll see more of Rya'c now that he joined the fight.

Dave2
December 7th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Just watched it.....too bad they didn't have a way to contact ascended Daniel to help them out. Or at least contact the Asgard!
I think Jonas is just great. Interesting how an alien earth-like planet has earth names for people. I wonder when they were taken away from Earth....

LeftHandedGuitarist
December 11th, 2011, 04:20 AM
I'm suprised how much I enjoyed this episode. I think when it was first broadcast, I was still bitter over the loss of Daniel and had a hard time accepting the show without him. For this rewatch and knowing what is to come, all those feelings have disappeared and I can enjoy it for what it is.

And this is a fantastic episode. It's epic, with a great mix of different characters, both regular and old favourites (or in the case of R'yac, not favourites at all! However, now that the actor is older he is MUCH improved in terms of acting and the scenes with him and Teal'c are wonderful).

McKay is great in his classically annoying way, although at this point we haven't grown to understand him or like him properly. He's still close to what he would become, but slightly more cocky than later - he's lacking the slight cowardice which he becomes famous for. Jonas' enthusiasm and upbeat attitude is refreshing and endearing, we see Lt. Simmons back after a long absence (and he's certainly found a bit of confidence now).

Most of all, there is SO MUCH humour in this episode, which makes it a delight to watch. I think my favourite line was Jack's little remark about SG-1 needing a geeky fourth member to "offset our overwhelming coolness". :D

The X-302 is cool, and a part of the show I had completely forgotten about. However, I wasn't the biggest fan of Earth building their own ships as it begins to move the show a bit too far in the direction of Star Trek - there are certainly later episodes which I hate for this ('Space Race' can go **** itself).

EDIT: One big question I'm confused on - what happened to the Goa'uld cargo ship that the SGC has? O'Neill/Chekov mention something about not having it any more, but I don't recall it being destroyed in the season 5 finale?

RATING: 9 out of 10

Matt G
January 1st, 2012, 02:41 PM
I'm either the first Rewatcher to start in on S6 or the the two guys before me started seriously early...

September 2002: The talk amongst US Gaters was on the switch from Showtime to Scifi but the big story was that 'first...there was an S6 of SG1...the first time a show I'd gotten into lasted that long and then that it was a leap into the unknown character wise and therefore a potential jump-the shark moment...

1. Jack's "Next" as they kept going through Daniel-replacement candidates.

2. Really wasn't sure what to make of Jonas here...

3. X-302 = cool, but doesn't work so well.

4. Could have lived with a Russian on SG1, even if Jack couldn't...

5. McKay...was not pleased to see him again...

6. Ry'ac still cared for his Dad...:)

7. Now...what...

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
January 2nd, 2012, 03:53 PM
Pretty good opener to the new season of SG-1, on its new home.

Anubis wants to destroy Earth, like that's original.

Jonas wants to be on SG-1, we have a new spaceship (X-302), Jack's talking out of his ass (gotta love that), and the Russian's what one of their own on SG-1.

Tomorrow is the conclusion to the 2-parter that starts SG-1 Season 6 and 2012. Great way to start the year, if I say so myself.

Jae'a
January 3rd, 2012, 07:59 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/30148.html)

I'm a little surprised that the Russians want one of their own in SG-1 after 'The Tomb'...
But you gotta love Jack making fun of bad guy talk again at the end. :D

Krisz
January 5th, 2012, 08:15 PM
The thing that always stood out in this episode for me was the way Teal'c and Rya'c interacted in this. Their estrangement highlighted the difficult choices made by the Jaffa who chose to follow the fight for freedom. They suffer isolation and deprivations, the extreme example brought home by Dray'uc's death.

She died because she refused to take a new symbiote, she would not allow another Jaffa to be killed for theirs and the Goa'uld were now wary of letting the Jaffa have the free access to the larval Goa'uld as they used to. Teal'c lost a wife and his son a mother in his belief that the fight was worth continuing, it's a terrible thing to face, but she did die "free!"

The wonderfully done funeral scene was made even more poignant with the emotive music score that accompanied it.

Also love the different ways Jonas approaches the various members of SG-1 and gets them to consider what he could offer as a member of SG-1. He displays his genius in such unassuming ways. A great introduction to a likeable character.

jelgate
January 7th, 2012, 01:07 PM
I just love Redemption. It flows through so nicely as a two parter. So much that they had to insert that cliche Anubis scene is set tension. Too me it works on so many level like showing Jonas' desire to join SG1 and show how is able to contribute. The X-302 is interesting spacecraft. I liked how that while it works it is shown to have a flaw. The Teal'c and Ryac scene is sad to me. Their is something I like about how Teal'c saying Rya'c has never lost his trust. The Russians being angry seem overdone. It seems every episode Col. Chekov is angry about something. Finally I like the problem of the Gate having this problem. Not only does it teach something new about the Stargate but it once again shows how dangerous an enemy Anubis is.

Nut_ty
January 8th, 2012, 02:27 PM
I have to admit that I fell in love with Daniel from the original movie onward. I also didn't really get hooked on the show until I saw it on Hulu the beginning of 2010. The first time I rushed through this season and with every episode I kept hoping that Daniel would return. This time around I'm starting to appreciate Jonas. He starts to demonstrate his value as a member of the SGC by noticing that the X-302 wouldn't be able to access hyperspace. I used to think he smiled way too much, but my attitude on that has changed as well.

This episode really starts Season 6 with a bang! The suspense this episode (and all the others) is enhanced by the magic of Joel Goldsmith's music. I had never realized how important the music can be before I starting watching Stargate.

Lieutenant Sparrow
February 2nd, 2012, 01:42 AM
I remember the first time I saw this I was missing Daniel and really hated Jonas. But after watching it a third time, I really like Jonas. Just not as much as Daniel.

Ah the X-302. I'm a huge fan of spaceships and space battles so the 302 is right up my ally. Bring on the 303.

And I agree that Rya'cs' actor has improved.

Cluas
January 27th, 2013, 11:55 PM
Now, that's what I'm talking about, gotta be my fave episode so far, along with a few others. Great start of season 6 - Loved Jonas, and it was also nice to see McKay again - Now I will watch the conclusion - This ep. was SO exciting :D

Final
March 8th, 2013, 10:46 AM
The episode was well written and even had a diffrent feel to it then the episodes ebfore it. I don't why but the episode seemed...different somehow. I don't know if it was the style, the writing, or what but it seemed diffrent like the start of a new chapter in SG-1.
I got the same feeling watching this, couldn't quite put my finger on why. Either way great episode.

Falcon Horus
June 29th, 2013, 01:39 PM
Lieutenant Simmons (as played by Tobias Mehler) -- what a nice surprise seeing him still around! :D

Spotting Martin Wood and Dan Shea in the background has become a sport now. :p It's fun.

And yay, I was glad to be rid of the mask intro, instead I now have to watch the spinning gate every episode... not so much yay afterall... :S

9 try-outs -- I bet the SGC personnel has a pool going there. :p And Jonas is not picked, and he so wants to be out there. Don't worry, mate, you'll get your shot.

Oh yeah, McKay's also back... *le sigh* ...still arrogant and annoying. :mckay:

So, Anubis is reigning hellfire and doom on planet Earth. Ah, not to worry Sam will pull something out of her butt... head... :p

Baron Of Hell
July 4th, 2013, 04:23 AM
Not liking Jonas at all, maybe he'll get better in part 2. The return of McKay was a nice touch. I hope he does something useful in part 2.

I have no idea how they are going to get out of this mess but I was thinking maybe pack up the stargate and take it into space.

For the teal'c and son part I didn't care for the violent moments but the part when they made up was cool. Nice to see a emotional Teal'c

Anja
September 26th, 2015, 07:00 AM
Exciting, so I watched the next one right up.
Father - son relationship and many questions still to be answered.
Most important one: Will they avoid disaster?

BethHG
July 9th, 2018, 05:43 AM
Good episode. The funeral pyre reminded me so much of Darth Vader's funeral pyre that the Star Wars theme kept running through my head. :D

I loved the scenes between Teal and Rya'c. CJ really acted his best in the emotional parts!

Poor Jonas being ignored, and it is always good to see McKay in all his arrogant glory.

Falcon Horus
August 9th, 2018, 10:29 AM
YAY, new intro -- so long mask of Ra.... Oh dear, all that turning... nauseating... :comeon:
Okay, can I have the mask of Ra back now. :S

Anyway... season 6. I'm at the halfway point in rewatching SG-1, and nearly going for a year now. It'll be a full year in November I think (checks first post on Stargate Command to be sure) -- * please hold * -- nope, my first posting was around October 16, 2017. So, it'll be a full year in October.

So, SG-1 is doing new-member trial runs and they are seemingly going very smooth. How many did you say, 8? Oh wait no, 9. Captain Matheson lasted a full two hours. How quaint. :p

Jonas' favorite channel is the weather channel. LOL! Entirely forgotten about that one. And so eager to give back and learn and be part of the SGC and contribute, and nobody really lets him. Not unless General Hammond makes them to.

And they also build a new X-30...2, which after the fiasco of the 1, is entirely human built so no surprises on board. Also no phasers sadly. :p And a hyperdrive. Neath (if it works that is).

The Jaffa funeral pyre was interesting, and presented a small opportunity to learn something of Jaffa funeral rites but alas it was too short to matter in the grand scheme of things. It's a bit glossed over and seemingly quickly forgotten as soon as the mission to save the Tau'ri from Anubis' doom presents itself.

Ah yes, Anubis is bombarding the Earth gate with some spiffy Ancient technology, in order for it to selfdestruct and take Colorado with it, which also brings back McKay... whom I still have no love for. Thank goddess they altered his character a wee bit for Atlantis -- even though I have no love for him there either.

Overall, it's an excellent start of the season, as far as I am concerned so I'm giving it an excellent. I was properly entertained for 42 minutes. :)

How would you rate SG-1's "Redemption, Part 1?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
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Falcon Horus
August 9th, 2018, 02:05 PM
Oh... by the way, fun fact I forgot to mention...

The counter which keeps track of how long a wormhole has been open, has a three to four second jump when the camera is on General Hammond than when the camera is on Major Carter. The counter is reflected in the window behind Don Davis.

A slight continuity error, I'd say. :p

Falcon Horus
August 9th, 2018, 02:46 PM
3-episode quiz: Redemption I, Redemption II & Descent (https://goo.gl/forms/hTi6rxS2IvjbcvpB3)

Jigsaw puzzle: Redemption, part I (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=6O4ZAYNA)

BethHG
August 9th, 2018, 07:01 PM
11:32

jelgate
August 10th, 2018, 02:16 PM
9 minutes 12 seconds

ReganX
August 17th, 2018, 11:59 AM
I was late to start watching Stargate.

My best friend introduced me to the show after Season Eight had aired, via DVDs for the movie, the first season (apart from Children of the Gods) and part of the second season. I was hooked at once, and went on to buy the DVDs for myself, in stages. I honestly can’t remember the exact order I watched the show in, but I know that it wasn’t chronological.

I think that this affected my view of Season Six in a lot of ways because I was aware that Daniel would be back on the show, and that Jonas wasn’t going to be around in the long-term. As a result, I think that I was inclined not to want to get attached to the character at first, and that, with the earliest episodes of the season, I perceived more of a focus on Jonas’ character than there actually was, and the perceived excessive focus seemed wasteful, given that the character wasn't going to be on the team for future seasons. On the other hand, it also meant that my feelings towards Jonas as a character weren’t affected by his replacing Daniel, and I came to like him a lot, so much so that I wished, and still wish, that he could have stayed.

I like the way Redemption, Part 1 opens with a bang, and it’s a nice touch that, five years into the SGC’s operations, they are as alert as ever when there’s an unscheduled ‘gate activation. Another show might have phased out the reaction, or at least toned it down a lot, to save money on extras, if nothing else, but the SGC remains as alert as I would expect a military operation to be in their situation. It also serves as an effective contrast to the way things were five seasons earlier, when the stargate was being ‘guarded’ by bored troops who spent their time playing cards.

The brief SG-1 career of the unfortunate Captain Hagman was funny. Under other circumstances, I’d find it noteworthy that Daniel was replaced by a military officer but Jack’s “Next!” is all you need to know that Hagman is the latest in a line of potentials, even without this point being reinforced later.

I love the credits with the close-ups of the spinning stargate.

One thing I love about Jonas in this episode is that he immediately gives off a vibe that he’s not from Earth. I think that his fascination with the Weather Channel was a good way of showing that he’s not from Earth.

The introduction of the X-302 was also well done, and shows the progress that has been made in the year and a half, or thereabouts, since the ill-fated X-301. They learned their lesson, ensuring that it was all human built, rather than just reclaiming a Goa’uld glider. It also seems fitting that they were able to take it a step further than the Goa’uld gliders by making it capable of hyperspace, even if it didn’t work out at first.

It’s the difference between the Goa’uld and the humans on Earth; the Goa’uld stole the technology of other races and, to the best of my recollection, they tended not to develop their own, at least not to any great extent. They didn’t seem to be much more advanced in the show’s present than they were thousands of years in the past. Humans, on the other hand, were always working to improve their own technology, and used advanced alien technology as a starting point to develop their own. I’d say that this is why races like the Tollan and the Aschen were able to overtake the Goa’uld in terms of technology.

Tact, thy name is not Jack O’Neill.

What was Hammond thinking, broaching the possibility of a Russian officer on SG-1 to Jack while Colonel Chekov was present? He had to know that Jack would not respond positively to the idea.

Did Jonas actually manage to knock Teal’c down, or was Teal’c convinced that he’d be a good member of the team and that’s why he spoke to Jack about him joining SG-1?

I didn’t like that Colonel Chekov confronted Sam about the X-302 first, rather than broaching the matter with Hammond, which would have been much more appropriate.

Rya’c and Drey’auc were never prominent characters, but I like the way they used the latter’s death to draw attention to the long-term issue for the Jaffa, once the Goa’uld no longer trusted them with their young. Of course, this was also problematic for the Goa’uld, since they relied on the Jaffa to incubate larval symbiotes.

I don’t like Anubis, but I like his plan. It was simple, but sadistic.

I love that they had Sam take part in the first X-302 flight. She didn’t often get to do any piloting. I also love that they thought of flying to Abydos to access their stargate, rather than overlooking a potential solution, which always irritates me.

I’d almost forgotten how arrogant McKay was at first, given that he improved once he went to Atlantis. At the end of the episode, he seems almost pleased over the failure of the Abydos 1 mission, even though that was their best hope of contacting help to keep all life on Earth from being wiped out.

Nice Sam/Jack scene at the end.

Overall, I rate this episode as Excellent. It was a great start to Season Six.

The jigsaw took me 14:16. I guess I need some practice.

AleksisMi
August 18th, 2018, 04:44 PM
you know... i would like a movie series with all the sg1 team including jonas to be on a starship, perhaps a new series? split thecommand of a firefly esque ship with them and give them quaint missions where they do fun stuff etc.... not to much like that dark one they did dark matter, it was cool but too darkmattery, make it quainter like firefly which had a almost starwars feeling to it with a light bsg touch... they start running a new quick rich scheme every couple episodes, put it online, on a service perhaps, but put it on several networks services to increase viewership ten fold.... and give them planet exploration for nefarious profiteering on habbited worlds, habbitable worlds, sometimesi they arre going to undeveloped worlds to harvest ridiculous loads of minerals useing robotic equipment they set up and leave to come back to in later missions etc... give them personal missions, exploration of their humanity and spiritual planes, and give them fun crttazy missions to rob grand ol operys on worlds or steal stuff hidden in a opera house in some locations and other banks are to obvious so the obviously fun hospital theft, stealing equipment etc fighting past security to steal ships etc etc

AleksisMi
August 18th, 2018, 04:50 PM
put that on a broadcast channel for previous aired episodes like FOX, and you will have a hit on your hands etc

Falcon Horus
August 21st, 2018, 04:49 AM
Did Jonas actually manage to knock Teal’c down, or was Teal’c convinced that he’d be a good member of the team and that’s why he spoke to Jack about him joining SG-1?

Nope, I firmly believe Jonas never even managed to hit Teal'c, but that Teal'c took pity on him and promised to put in a good word for him. :p

Seaboe Muffinchucker
August 27th, 2018, 12:03 PM
Another show might have phased out the reaction, or at least toned it down a lot, to save money on extras, if nothing else, I'm not sure they spent all that much money on extras for the gateroom guarding scenes. I'm pretty sure all the running in the halls was reused multiple times.

They learned their lesson, ensuring that it was all human built, rather than just reclaiming a Goa’uld glider.
While I love the X/F-302, these scenes drive me crazy, because the Air Force has NEVER built its own equipment. It would not be building the X/F-302, either.

Did Jonas actually manage to knock Teal’c down, or was Teal’c convinced that he’d be a good member of the team and that’s why he spoke to Jack about him joining SG-1?
I agree with FH; Teal'c took pity on him.

Seaboe

Who Knows
October 11th, 2018, 12:38 AM
14.18, so close to ReganX :D

Falcon Horus
October 28th, 2018, 08:38 AM
First jigsaw in a long while: 10:50