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Madcat221
February 12th, 2006, 09:40 AM
Since Atlantis is a city, it would be assumed that it would have some industrial capacity of some sort. Why not simply find the fabrication plant for ZPMs/Squid Missiles/Puddle Jumpers, now that they've restored full power?

freyr's mother
February 12th, 2006, 09:43 AM
There have already been several threads on this, but ill throw you a bone. Its too easy and it would ruin the show.

RobJones
February 12th, 2006, 11:34 AM
Since Atlantis is a city, it would be assumed that it would have some industrial capacity of some sort. Why not simply find the fabrication plant for ZPMs/Squid Missiles/Puddle Jumpers, now that they've restored full power?

i think probably becuase

A). the city is very big to explore fully and they havnt found it yet
B). it would indeed make the show to easy
C). Maybe we cant build them with only 1 functioning ZPM (need lot of power to make? just a thought)

oh and you've my friend have made my evening - squid missiles ROFL. lol thats my favourite word now :D

Gate Master
February 12th, 2006, 01:10 PM
There have already been several threads on this, but ill throw you a bone. Its too easy and it would ruin the show.

Why would it be too easy we're supposed to believe the ancients had all this tech and still lost. Plus there's the Ori to contend with now and its doubtful even with the tech it would be easy. There gonna surpass any thing we find on Atlantis neway.

AcidSquid
February 12th, 2006, 04:03 PM
That'd ruin the show.

Gate Master
February 12th, 2006, 04:13 PM
That'd ruin the show.

Not necessarily we'd still be the underdogs just underdogs with more toys to play with. There'd still plenty of challenges to over cum especially with the Ori around. Its not like having asgard tech has ruined the show so why would ancient tech. Also Earth as far as we know has the full protection of the ancients weapon system but that hasn't lessned the threat of the Ori

AcidSquid
February 12th, 2006, 04:24 PM
*snort*

Hoplite
February 13th, 2006, 03:25 AM
Atlantis donesnthave to have any industrial capacity it could just be a command center and research place and have none or very litte industrial capacity a just depend on other sites to make it's weapons and other tech this would help explane why the wrath could force the Atlantians to leave they where starved out by a large blockade.

Steve_the_Wraith
February 13th, 2006, 03:41 AM
Atlantis probably does have alot of industrial capacity but having a machine and knowing how to operate it is very different

example
you have a computer that you know how to use, you might even be able to carry out repairs on it yourself. However if you were dropped into a computer factory would you know to build a computer?

freyr's mother
February 13th, 2006, 07:28 AM
*snort*
Ah, yes. I have that sick sense of humor too.

WraithWarrior
February 13th, 2006, 07:48 AM
I think that they should find this tech, but so that it doesnt ruin the show they should need to do something/have something in order to use it. The problem should be that the tech is on the hive ship heading for Earth, so they have to find it, get on without being noticed, get the tech and destroy it before they get to Earth

Exiled Master
February 13th, 2006, 01:59 PM
That'd ruin the show.
I don't think so. The Ancients had a huge domain and they got beat. We definitely don't have one to exploit such the industrial capacity of Atlantis. And Hoplite, they started the Ancient domain with Atlantis (and its sister cities). It has to have the ability to process raw material into finished goods. I'm suprised they haven't found the hydroponics or whatever they had on the ship. I mean, they couldn't just use Trek-style synhesizers all the way to Pegasus, since I think the Ancients appreciate the aesthetics more than the Federation. (I still think :mckay: needs to make a search engine for the ancient database)

Gate Master
February 13th, 2006, 03:55 PM
I don't think so. The Ancients had a huge domain and they got beat. We definitely don't have one to exploit such the industrial capacity of Atlantis. And Hoplite, they started the Ancient domain with Atlantis (and its sister cities). It has to have the ability to process raw material into finished goods. I'm suprised they haven't found the hydroponics or whatever they had on the ship. I mean, they couldn't just use Trek-style synhesizers all the way to Pegasus, since I think the Ancients appreciate the aesthetics more than the Federation. (I still think :mckay: needs to make a search engine for the ancient database)

I agree there's got to be at the very least food synthesizing ability and some, even if limited, manufacturing ability. If the ancients just wanted a place to live they would probably use old tech like stone buildings etc like they did in the MW. The fact that its a flying intergalactic colony with science labs logically they would have some way to apply and manufacture any scientific break throughs such as the personnel shield devices and such. Its quite possible that they had larger manufacturing plants elsewhere, but Atlantis should have some manufacturing ability to deal with the basics such as food, maintence and science.

Plus since we must assume its more advanced than the Asgard manufacturing ability then its likely quite small just reconfiguring matter at the basic level with a one plant build most things type of device. They wouldn't need lots of plants to build all the different tech, although they probably will have specialist construction devices for certain advanced tech I imagine.

Exiled Master
February 13th, 2006, 08:06 PM
If they will have a prayer of unlocking the potential of the Ancients, then they are going to need to know more about the war with the :wraith:. If the :wraith: went with a strategic campaign first, then we don't have much hope of finding production centers. But if they went tactical first, then they will find fewer operational ships.

Sgt Parsnip
February 14th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Ah, yes. I have that sick sense of humor too. me three

PG15
February 14th, 2006, 09:09 PM
me three

Me four

First thing I noticed.

Cynicat
February 15th, 2006, 01:00 AM
Me five - we're a gutter-minded bunch, aren't we? :P


(I still think :mckay: needs to make a search engine for the ancient database)

Google.peg?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/Cynicat/google_pegasus.jpg

Zamboni
February 15th, 2006, 02:05 AM
Uh... Shouldn't the copyright info be like, 200,000,000 BC or something instead (or if you're Catholic, 6,000 BC)?

Anyway, even if Atlantis had industrial capacity of any kind, you still need the necessary resources in order to produce anything. I doubt the ancients just made ZPMs out of thin air...

Cynicat
February 15th, 2006, 03:30 AM
LOL - good point! *edits image, then steps out to let the actual discussion continue*

knowles2
February 15th, 2006, 07:28 AM
The only reason we have not seen it is because for some the writers are scared that they would actually have to start thinking of good ways to use the tech and actually make the wraith a enemy which can defeat this tech in someway. They just because they think they would not be able to write decent stories , my solution bring in more writers and give them more time to work on the story line.

Plus also season 2 does not makes sense to me, they went through all the trouble of making the wraith think that the city is destroyed and then every episode is about them going of world. I personally think we somebody in atlantis with some brains, instead of exploring other planets, why not explore atlantis for once. May be a trip to the engin room, or show some of the jumper bays or may be explore some other areas of the city, see them showing new scientist from earth around. See them work on some project to integrate ancient tech with ours.

If it me or does it feel like they rushing the stories in both SG1 and atlantis.

carcatcher
April 7th, 2006, 08:03 PM
The only reason we have not seen it is because for some the writers are scared that they would actually have to start thinking of good ways to use the tech and actually make the wraith a enemy which can defeat this tech in someway. They just because they think they would not be able to write decent stories , my solution bring in more writers and give them more time to work on the story line.

Plus also season 2 does not makes sense to me, they went through all the trouble of making the wraith think that the city is destroyed and then every episode is about them going of world. I personally think we somebody in atlantis with some brains, instead of exploring other planets, why not explore atlantis for once. May be a trip to the engin room, or show some of the jumper bays or may be explore some other areas of the city, see them showing new scientist from earth around. See them work on some project to integrate ancient tech with ours.

If it me or does it feel like they rushing the stories in both SG1 and atlantis.
I agree completely, they should have been learning all that they could about the city, the galaxy isn't going anywhere.

mrX225
April 8th, 2006, 06:43 AM
it be good if they say found a drone factory in atlantis but it only had enough stuff to make like a hundred more so they have to find new resources to make them out of u could have a couple of eps on that

genius21
April 8th, 2006, 01:34 PM
why would the ori surpass everything we found in atlantis?Becouse they are acendent it's not logical they need to learn there not all knowing and things they learnd after ancention doesn't mean that it works in our level of space time they acendent beyond that.

using the technology in atlantis against the ori we will win the knowladge of the ancients in hour level of space time is greater then that of the ori the city of the ancients even looks new and you forget they left the pegasus galaxy and came to earth they developed new things when they came here the were science ori= religion.

when using brains you can see the bigger picture when using imagination everything is possible.