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GateWorld
January 17th, 2006, 12:55 PM
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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 109</FONT>
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Colonel Tigh is stunned when his wife miraculously turns up in the fleet, having escaped the Cylon attack and wishing to reconcile.

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ShippyChick
January 19th, 2006, 06:26 PM
I loved the humor in this episode. It was a different aspect I hadn't really noticed before.

ToasterOnFire
January 22nd, 2006, 03:37 PM
I just rewatched this one last night. It's probably the closest thing BSG has to a comedy episode so far and I thought it was great fun. Tigh's wife is so over the top there's no way you can take her seriously (still unsure if she's a cyclon though).

So many funny moments in this ep. Poor Baltar being batted back and forth between the higher forces. The dinner party where poor Lee gets some unwanted attention and later in the testing room where everyone is accusing everyone else. It all builds up to the scene where Tigh yells at Adama "She thinks you're a cyclon!" and then they pause and both turn to stare at Roslin. Perfect. :D

EJO directed this one and he put in some really nice, atypical camera shots. I really liked the early camera shot of a desparing Baltar that slowly panned back over all the blood tubes for testing. I also liked the camera shots under the tables, both with Baltar and at the dinner party.

k8tbug1
January 26th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Even though Ellen is my least fav character, this episode remains one of my favorites because of the humor and the excellent acting!!!! The dinner scene is the highlight of the episode. CLASSIC COMEDY!!!! *in my opinion of course:P *

kharn the betrayer
January 27th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Even though Ellen is my least fav character, this episode remains one of my favorites because of the humor and the excellent acting!!!! The dinner scene is the highlight of the episode. CLASSIC COMEDY!!!! *in my opinion of course:P *

yeah I agree with you that Dinner scene had me and my family Laugthing for a good while and the whole episode was just funny

the only thing I hope they dont do with Ellen is make her a Cylon...

foxhound22
February 2nd, 2006, 04:06 AM
The dinner scene was nothing compared to the comedy that transpired in the lab when Ellen and Col. Tigh walked in.

Annie Sheppard
April 6th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Even though Ellen is my least fav character, this episode remains one of my favorites because of the humor and the excellent acting!!!! The dinner scene is the highlight of the episode. CLASSIC COMEDY!!!! *in my opinion of course:P *
just can agree with this...LOL...

Catsitter
August 10th, 2006, 02:58 PM
This has to be my favourite episode so far. I can't think of anything I disliked about it, and I am planning to watch it all over again as soon as possible. There were so many good bits I can't really say what my favourite bit was. Oh, I was glad to see the photo-burning in "previously on BSG"; I was hoping it would be in (and it is a different photo from the one in the mini-series!). Very good episode.

Admiral Mappalazarou
October 25th, 2006, 03:31 AM
The humour in this episode is great, especially when they're all arguing in the lab at the end and Baltar's just spinning in his chair. The scene where Kara walks in and Baltar's having bumsex with an invisible cylon was hysterical, especially when the camera picks up Six bent over with her ass out but looking up at Kara suspiciously.
And when Saul's wife is drunk and blames Adama for touching her leg under the table and touching herwhilst she pretended to be asleep, and when she herself touches Lee under the table with her foot. (starts laughing hysterically) Every single television scifi series needs an episode like this one.:) :) :) :)

It is definately one of the best one's they've ever made so far.:)

Legionnaire
October 27th, 2006, 12:22 PM
Yes yes one of those rare episodes filled with humor, something somewhat of a rarity in the world of BSG. I still laugh out loud whenever I think of Baltar just spinning around in his chair with that silly grin on his face while everyone else is talking to eachother and noone is paying attention to him. I look forward to the next time Olmos directs an episode, which is coming up this season.

Trek_Girl42
October 27th, 2006, 07:59 PM
Yes yes one of those rare episodes filled with humor, something somewhat of a rarity in the world of BSG. I still laugh out loud whenever I think of Baltar just spinning around in his chair with that silly grin on his face while everyone else is talking to eachother and noone is paying attention to him. I look forward to the next time Olmos directs an episode, which is coming up this season.
I wouldn't be looking for quite the same thing from this next ep that Olmos is directing

It's supposed to be a very dark episode, in stark contrast to Tigh Me Up Tigh Me Down. Still can't wait!!!!!





Yippie! Post #5000! :P

Legionnaire
October 27th, 2006, 10:22 PM
Yea, the way Season 3 has been going i didn't expect the next Olmos episode to be a bundle of joy but I'll keep looking to Baltar for my black humour I suppose.

MB.Eddie
November 5th, 2006, 09:34 AM
Its very convenient that Tigh's wife shows up, and its still not clear if she is a Cylon because Baltar's not doing the tests properly :(

Lots of funny scenes in this ep though :)
Also nice to see that the Cylons tried something new, and tried to blow up the BSG with the 'injured' fighter. Good to see that Tigh still had his smarts about him and launched the fighters...

jadeloves_ADAMA_ROSLIN
March 25th, 2007, 03:16 PM
This is definitly one of my favorite episodes in all of BSG seasons because not only of the slightly lighter sarcastic tones, and as people have mentioned, ellen tigh, the foot thing at dinner (LOL), the lab scenes (the expressions are priceless when ellen goes "you can tell me to do that" when laura tells her to be quiet), the expressions of saul and adama in the lab,

BUT

my most favorite part of this episode is the whole dinner/family sequence. adama, roslin, and lee are completely acting like a family, wheras now, they're broken...:(

plus the looks adama and roslin share when ellen stupidly talks about zach...so cute and sad.

reminds me alot of the BSG fan-vid Al Adama.

love this epi, its my favorite of season one.

Pharaoh Atem
June 13th, 2007, 05:35 AM
loved this epsiode it wqs greqt to see a differnt side of tigh and intrducing ellen was fun.

i love the dinner when ellan says booo to commander adama.

EarthandBeyond
January 17th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Funniest episode ever.

The_Carpenter
March 3rd, 2008, 03:29 PM
Funniest episode ever.
:indeed: and it served as a nice change of pace.

So I'm guessing that Tighs wifes a cylon given No. 6s comment would make some sense if shes programmed to drive a wedge between Roselind, Adama and Tigh, but she also seems to be too unhinged to implent that plan.

Trek_Girl42
May 13th, 2008, 11:43 PM
Just rewatched this ep along with the commentary, every single time I see it, I love it even more (easily one of my most rewatched eps). The comedic chops that all of the actors show are fantastic; the dinner party is still one of my favourite scenes of the series- showing that these characters normally so serious can be very funny and still in character. :zelenka25:

"That's a thermonuclear bomb for frak's sake." One of the best lines of the series.

Also interesting to listen to the podcast and hear RDM talk about Col Tigh. Crossroads and Beyond SpoilersThe whole backstory confuses me. Now obviously everything RDM talks about in the podcast isn't necessarily canon- though so far it sounds pretty accurate with the bits and pieces of this story that have been revealed on screen. So Tigh fighting in the first war still confuses me.....I really want to know the answer to this. :P

However it was indeed confirmed that Adama and Tigh didn't know each other during that war, that has been confused, and that they met later.

SoulReaver
May 15th, 2008, 04:37 PM
Just rewatched this ep along with the commentary, every single time I see it, I love it even more (easily one of my most rewatched eps). The comedic chops that all of the actors show are fantastic; the dinner party is still one of my favourite scenes of the series- showing that these characters normally so serious can be very funny and still in character. :zelenka25:

"That's a thermonuclear bomb for frak's sake." One of the best lines of the series.

Also interesting to listen to the podcast and hear RDM talk about Col Tigh. Crossroads and Beyond SpoilersThe whole backstory confuses me. Now obviously everything RDM talks about in the podcast isn't necessarily canon- though so far it sounds pretty accurate with the bits and pieces of this story that have been revealed on screen. So Tigh fighting in the first war still confuses me.....I really want to know the answer to this. :P

However it was indeed confirmed that Adama and Tigh didn't know each other during that war, that has been confused, and that they met later.the fact that this episode - albeit enjoyable (hey a bit of comedy relief is most welcome in a series such as this) - is chock full of plot holes (or rather, chasms) is the 1st thing that struck me when I watched it : like why the hell did Baltar conceal Boomer's identity as a cylon ? (especially with a survival instinct such as his). sure he didn't dare tell her directly lest a switch go off & she freak out on him, but why didn't he make a beeline for Adama's HQ & denounce her later on ? and what's the deal with everyone passing the test at the end of the ep ? had Baltar completely lost his will to survive or had he simply gone mad ? did he actually test them ? (in which case he really had gone bonkers knowing who was a cylon yet not doing anything about it) or did he skip the tests altogether & "play ostrich" instead ? we know his detector works, so logically Tigh should've registered as a cylon right ? if so why didn't he denounce Tigh, if not on the spot at least 2 years later during his trial so as to compromise the colonel ? (who just happened to be his worst enemy at that point btw). and finally, how many of the "main" characters were actually tested ? the detector appeared to simply vanish into oblivion after this ep with nary a mention of it in subsequent eps...

the part about him not turning in Boomer was the most blatant actually http://img.presence-pc.com/forum/images/perso/skylight.gif
RDM & co still have to answer this, if they haven't yet

Trek_Girl42
May 15th, 2008, 05:06 PM
the fact that this episode - albeit enjoyable (hey a bit of comedy relief is most welcome in a series such as this) - is chock full of plot holes (or rather, chasms) is the 1st thing that struck me when I watched it : like why the hell did Baltar conceal Boomer's identity as a cylon ? (especially with a survival instinct such as his). sure he didn't dare tell her directly lest a switch go off & she freak out on him, but why didn't he make a beeline for Adama's HQ & denounce her later on ? and what's the deal with everyone passing the test at the end of the ep ? had Baltar completely lost his will to survive or had he simply gone mad ? did he actually test them ? (in which case he really had gone bonkers knowing who was a cylon yet not doing anything about it) or did he skip the tests altogether & "play ostrich" instead ? we know his detector works, so logically Tigh should've registered as a cylon right ? if so why didn't he denounce Tigh, if not on the spot at least 2 years later during his trial so as to compromise the colonel ? (who just happened to be his worst enemy at that point btw). and finally, how many of the "main" characters were actually tested ? the detector appeared to simply vanish into oblivion after this ep with nary a mention of it in subsequent eps...

the part about him not turning in Boomer was the most blatant actually http://img.presence-pc.com/forum/images/perso/skylight.gif
RDM & co still have to answer this, if they haven't yetWrong ep. I think he discovered Boomer the ep before "Tigh Me Up Tigh Me Down" (she was the test run- at the beginning of TMUTMD Baltar is begining widespread testing)- Six was messing with him and Baltar freaked when he saw what Boomer really was. He didn't even want to do the cylon detection project in the first place, at this point Baltar is confused about the cylons, and more scared that one of them will out him for his role in the attacks, than what a sleeper agent might do. And Baltar NEVER saw that Tigh was a cylon. He pre-set the test so that when the result came through the computer, it automatically read green. Even he saw everyone come out green- there is a line in the ep that goes "I'll never tell" whether Ellen is a cylon, I think that's more an error than anything, there is just absolutely no way that he knows the identity of the final five. He's been desperate to find out since the beginning of season three on the basestar!

The audience doesn't need it spelled out to assume that they "boxed" the cylon detection project after Boomer shot Adama and turned out to be a cylon, even though the test "read" that she wasn't (I'm pretty sure there was some mention of it somewhere by Baltar, but I'd have to re-watch the entire first half of season two to find it). They wouldn't have seen any point in continuing the testing, and Baltar couldn't very well admit that he'd faked the result! Hence no cylon detector after season one.

SoulReaver
May 15th, 2008, 06:00 PM
there is a line in the ep that goes "I'll never tell" whether Ellen is a cylon, I think that's more an error than anythingyeah that was the line (though I'm not sure he was talking specifically about Helen). if he really did rig the test to show green regardless of input then I guess we can add that line to the "list of things to be retconned" for it would completely contradict the 'rigged test' theory (by that line he's unequivocally stating that he knows who is & who isn't a cylon in that room)
btw has RDM ever been called out on it ?


on the other hand I can accept the fact that Baltar wasn't too keen on testing people & wanted to bury his ehad in the sand if we take into account the fact that he was as you said "confused" about the cylons (not to mention the fact he was completely bewitched by Head6 - and who wouldn't be -)

but Boomer was a different story, he already knew what she was : a walking timebomb that could go off any time. he had every reason to turn her in, other cylons going after him was less of a problem knowing he could get a security detachment to guard him 24/7 (wouldn't have upset his life much as he was already spending all his time cooped up in a lab anyway) especially since his prototype detector worked like a miracle (incidentally they dumbed down its efficiency in the following episode, another inconsistency looks like)

btw when interrogating Boomer he said he withheld Boomer's true nature from the rest of the fleet "for his own purposes" (whatever the hell these were http://img.presence-pc.com/forum/images/perso/bou%20le%20loup.gif) which means that fear was not the reason behind his actions (or lack thereof) when it came to Boomer

AresLover452
December 2nd, 2009, 01:13 PM
I love this one, not only because Tigh's wife gets drunk, EJO directed it, but because of the Roslin and Adama Flirting that happening in the beginning of the episode.

X-U
January 13th, 2010, 07:08 AM
There's one thing I don't get though:

They're saying it takes 11 hours to find out if somebody is a ceylon or not, but in the previous episode Boomer asks Gaius to test her, and in that episode it seems as if they test her in a few minutes.

Did I miss something there?

AresLover452
January 14th, 2010, 09:44 PM
there is a sort of absence of time in the show. it happens a lot in this series but it plays to the seriousness of it though.

EvilSpaceAlien
May 23rd, 2010, 03:18 PM
I didn't know where else to post this, but here's a link to a place where you can read a white draft of the episode's script. Although i have no idea what white draft means...
http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/battlestar/season1/galactica-109.pdf

AresLover452
May 24th, 2010, 09:23 PM
i love how EJO directed this. he kept the seriousness of the show but some how managed to incorperate a little humor as well. i loved this episode and I love it even more every time i watch it.

TBA
May 25th, 2010, 01:06 PM
I love it even more since the show doesn't have any other humour episodes :) The bit with Baltar was just great, imo.

Baltar: Lieutenant Thrace, so, uh, what I can I do for you?
Starbuck: You can zip up your fly...

AresLover452
May 25th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Or Ellen and Tigh in the hall... lmao!! that was hilarious

Pharaoh Atem
October 10th, 2010, 07:17 PM
Or Ellen and Tigh in the hall... lmao!! that was hilarious

we're almost home.... LOL just around the weapons storage :P there home is just one small room ...

quite funny :)

Ulkesh47
November 8th, 2010, 04:39 PM
I enjoyed this one, but it was a flawed construct in some respects in that some of the "you could be a Cylon" and "I wanted to keep her away from him for as long as possible" motivations seemed to not hold their water for me.

Also, this episode contains probably the only missteps of the series' musical scoring when the dreaded "funny music" comes along. :eek: This brings flashbacks of the B5 episodes "The War Prayer" and "Grail" - history repeats itself; a show with great music yields isolated cases of funny music in the first year and wisely never goes there again. :)

Highlights: "Boo!" (that was genuinely funny), "You saved our ship" (best scene of the episode, also rather an iconic one), and the artful final shot.

Pretty much your average quality for a BSG episode (funny to say "your average episode" when referring to the one and only comedy story, but so it goes).

5/10

Professor_S
June 2nd, 2011, 09:18 AM
EJO is a fantastic director! This ep and the other 3 or 4 he's directed have all been so well put together. I'm glad they didn't opt to go dark with this ep - the humour was brilliant! And since it's so rare in this show, all the more enjoyable. As has been said, all of the actors tackled the humour so well! What's great, though, is that the humour didn't take over the good ol' BSG we know and love. There was still an edge amidst the levity.

Bahaha, the dinner scene and the lab scene!! :lol: EJO has said in at least one interview that he didn't tell Jamie Bamber about his direction to Vernon in re her wandering foot. LMAO!!!

Anyone else get a real family vibe from Adama, Lee, and Roslin in the Commander's quarters after dinner? :D

Ever since the first time I saw this ep, my nickname for Ellen was Lady Macbeth. Adama was right (to paraphrase): Cylon or not, she's nothing but trouble!.

Loved the last scene between Adama and Tigh too. Pithy yet poignant.

Spoilers for final ep: On a random note, I definitely got a tear in my eye when I saw Adama in the Raptor cockpit. Sad memories... :(

chaddergate
June 4th, 2011, 08:05 AM
EJO is a fantastic director! This ep and the other 3 or 4 he's directed have all been so well put together. I'm glad they didn't opt to go dark with this ep - the humour was brilliant! And since it's so rare in this show, all the more enjoyable. As has been said, all of the actors tackled the humour so well! What's great, though, is that the humour didn't take over the good ol' BSG we know and love. There was still an edge amidst the levity.

Bahaha, the dinner scene and the lab scene!! :lol: EJO has said in at least one interview that he didn't tell Jamie Bamber about his direction to Vernon in re her wandering foot. LMAO!!!
Anyone else get a real family vibe from Adama, Lee, and Roslin in the Commander's quarters after dinner? :D

Ever since the first time I saw this ep, my nickname for Ellen was Lady Macbeth. Adama was right (to paraphrase): Cylon or not, she's nothing but trouble!.

Loved the last scene between Adama and Tigh too. Pithy yet poignant.

Spoilers for final ep: On a random note, I definitely got a tear in my eye when I saw Adama in the Raptor cockpit. Sad memories... :(

Yes, those two scenes made the episode!

Dutchess
June 8th, 2011, 05:07 PM
This episode proved to me that BSG IS the best show out there! The juxtaposition of comedy, controversy and yes, trajedy was so perfectly done that you actually felt a part of the family. I too loved the dinner scene and the lab scene. It was the comic relief you needed, especially for the upcoming episodes.
Also, in this ep, you really saw the adama/roslin relationship evolve (even though slightly). There was an element of trust that surfaced.
Ok. I'm going to assume that by now everyone has seen EVERY episode of BSG...
this may be a stupid question, but, since Baltar did the test on Ellen, he would have known she was a Cylon, right? Therefore he KNEW she was one of the final five. I didnt get that impression in season 4 though. This kinda threw me off a bit.

Professor_S
June 8th, 2011, 05:14 PM
This episode proved to me that BSG IS the best show out there! The juxtaposition of comedy, controversy and yes, trajedy was so perfectly done that you actually felt a part of the family. I too loved the dinner scene and the lab scene. It was the comic relief you needed, especially for the upcoming episodes.
Also, in this ep, you really saw the adama/roslin relationship evolve (even though slightly). There was an element of trust that surfaced.
Ok. I'm going to assume that by now everyone has seen EVERY episode of BSG...
this may be a stupid question, but, since Baltar did the test on Ellen, he would have known she was a Cylon, right? Therefore he KNEW she was one of the final five. I didnt get that impression in season 4 though. This kinda threw me off a bit.

Spoilers through S4!!
Yeah, I thought about that too. I justified it in my head by supposing that, because of the uniqueness of the Final Five, they still could have tested negative. I suppose it's also possible that Baltar just didn't test her; but based on Head Six's comment, I would tend to think not. You're right, though, I really didn't get the impression that Baltar knew in S4.

Oh, and re: bolded section - THIS! :D

P.S. Welcome to the forum, Dutchess! :)

mrscopterdoc
June 19th, 2014, 06:21 AM
i love how EJO directed this. he kept the seriousness of the show but some how managed to incorperate a little humor as well. i loved this episode and I love it even more every time i watch it.
It was nice to see the comedy after all the seriousness.

garhkal
June 19th, 2014, 03:23 PM
Spoilers through S4!!
Yeah, I thought about that too. I justified it in my head by supposing that, because of the uniqueness of the Final Five, they still could have tested negative. I suppose it's also possible that Baltar just didn't test her; but based on Head Six's comment, I would tend to think not. You're right, though, I really didn't get the impression that Baltar knew in S4.

Oh, and re: bolded section - THIS! :D

P.S. Welcome to the forum, Dutchess! :)

That's my thoughts too. Since both Elen and Saul were both part of the final 5 cylons, perhaps something unique to them made them crop up as negative to Baltar's detector.
OR he did detect them, but like he said after finding boomer, "Everyone is good to go, no cylons here"