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GateWorld
January 2nd, 2006, 08:44 PM
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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 211</FONT>
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Jack, Locke, and Sawyer go after Michael when he takes a gun and disappears into the jungle to try and find Walt, and find themselves in a confrontation with the Others. Jack recalls the fate of his marriage.

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Morbo
January 19th, 2006, 01:24 PM
Awesome episode last night!!

I wish that jack and locke had asked "Zeke" some questions - you know, like, where they are, who they are, why they;re there, whats goining on, etc?

also now we know what eventually happened to jack's wife.
and i have a feeling that the other guy she's seeing, is either Sawyer, or Desmond. though we already have a jack/sawyer connection - through jacks dad.
but i'd put money on it being desmond.

also anyone notice that when Zeke yelled for someone to bring over kate, he yelled "Alex" - ie: rosseau's kid.

KatG
January 19th, 2006, 01:58 PM
Didn't catch the "Alex" part. Must go back and watch again. Oh the agony. ;)

Thought this was a very good episode. Nice to finally know what happened with Jack/Sarah. I too wonder if it was Sawyer that Sarah was seeing, but probably not, as she seemed to think the relationship would be long term and Sawyer's not a long term kind of guy, at least he wasn't before. Also, as if we hadn't already figured it out, it pretty much confirms that Jack is a control freak to the nth degree.

Locke was very cool as usual, and wise enough to realize that you can't make people do something if they really don't want to do it.

Michael is absolutely nuts. I'm kind of glad he's away from the rest so that he can't cause any more damage.

Nice to see Sawyer showing compassion/unity with Kate. Especially after the way Jack acted towards her.

Hurley and Sawyer in the bunker. What a cute scene.

The Others are definitely freaky, and it was interesting to finally really get something from them. As to asking them questions, I don't think they were in the mood to answer. They just want to be left alone.

Nice moment between Jin and Sun. He's come such a long way.

I'm very interested to see what happens when Jack tries to form his "army". I have a feeling the rest of the castaways aren't going to be so willing to conform to his wishes.

So, overall, a very good episode that definitely moves things along.

aaobuttons
January 19th, 2006, 03:04 PM
I heard him call Alex, but then we didn't get to see any of him/her, Kate was just pushed into the frame, no hand or anything.... I was bummed.

I also thought it was cool when Jack started talking about the spy (Ethan) and Zeke didn't seem to know anything about it. So there's a 3rd group on the island that the Others don't seem to know about or control. Hmmm!

BTW I love Sun and Jin, they are so my fav. couple.

ItsDan
January 19th, 2006, 03:38 PM
When it aired I wondered if it was Jack's wife in Desmond's picture, I'm not the only one:

http://www.data-solution.net/amd/desmondphoto.jpg

cindyz
January 19th, 2006, 03:59 PM
I missed the episode last nite, but thank god for itunes store! so, just watched it now. really good stuff going on. nice to get more dirt on the doctor...plus seeing Hurley and Charlie have some male bonding time. Charlie should go back and talk to Claire. Locke, being Locke. Hurley taking an interest in what's her name. and He looks thinner. looking good!. Glad the Michael nut is away for a while. and the others???what, do they have personal shielding like the Goa'uld? It wiil be intersting to learn more about the Others in future episode. Jin and Sun, well, good for her putting the smack down on the man. It's about damm time woman. I am glad to see them patching things up. I thought the plot lines moved very nicely here...hopefully this trend will continue for the rest of the season.

I give it an 8/10. this show is addicting!

Vyse
January 19th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Great episode! Jack is really the best example of the nice guy getting screwed all the time. He always tries his hardest to help people and be a good person, but it always ends in heart-break. Nice guys finish last, girls love jerks, evident in Kate getting in with Sawyer, even though he is a jerk, and rejecting Jack who isn't perfect, but always tries to help and has good intentions.

Cinephilic TV Addict
January 19th, 2006, 05:06 PM
This was a good episode. Probably tied with 23rd Psalm for best of s2 so far. but it still is not as good as s1. that LOST touch is still missing...

KatG
January 19th, 2006, 06:08 PM
Great episode! Jack is really the best example of the nice guy getting screwed all the time. He always tries his hardest to help people and be a good person, but it always ends in heart-break. Nice guys finish last, girls love jerks, evident in Kate getting in with Sawyer, even though he is a jerk, and rejecting Jack who isn't perfect, but always tries to help and has good intentions.

Ah but Jack was rather jerk-like last night, and some women find guys like Jack who want to control everything and everyone to be exhausting. He also seems to have very high expectations, expectations that are very hard for most people to live up too.

Oh, had to comment on Sawyer's "Mr. Clean" reference to Locke. Was ROFL. He can come up with some great nicknames.

Morbo
January 19th, 2006, 06:10 PM
When it aired I wondered if it was Jack's wife in Desmond's picture, I'm not the only one:

http://www.data-solution.net/amd/desmondphoto.jpg

thats why i said desmond in my posts, cause i remembered seeing that picture, i just didn't have a link for it.

i bet dollars to donuts its her.

speaking of desmond, where the mother did he run off to? its been like 8 episodes since we've seen him.

GatetheWay
January 19th, 2006, 06:33 PM
Interesting ep. I like Jack but the guy's got issues he's not trying to fix. I did agree with Locke about Micheal. Even if he is crazy, the guy is a full grown man and he can do what he wants if he doesn't hurt anyone. I hope Jack will try in the future not to be so controling.

Can someone explain to me why Jack yelled at Kate like that for really no good reason? Has he given up on Kate all together or is he just mad at her for loving Sawyer instead? :confused:

The best moment of the ep had to be Sun and Jin. So much has been leading to that moment in their relationship. :)

So Jack's going to try and build an army, hmm. Well if he's going to do that he better convince the most influencial people of the island (ie Locke etc) on his side or he may loose face as leader. Why is Jack so determined to go after the others anyway?

Cinephilic TV Addict
January 19th, 2006, 10:01 PM
speaking of desmond, where the mother did he run off to? its been like 8 episodes since we've seen him.

yeah, but those 8 eps only really entail 5 or 6 days:cool:

but how can sarah be seeing desmond - when jack met desmond (which was right after sarah's op) he said he was about to leave on the solar race around the world that planted him on the island.

Nasa
January 20th, 2006, 12:44 AM
Overall good episode one of the best of the season , i think this episode sort of "confirmed" that jack is the unofficial leader of the survivors also good to see what happened with his wife .

ste
January 20th, 2006, 05:41 AM
I also thought it was cool when Jack started talking about the spy (Ethan) and Zeke didn't seem to know anything about it. So there's a 3rd group on the island that the Others don't seem to know about or control. Hmmm!.

I think he did know, he was just too interested in making a point, all he said was interesting theory. sure remember the other group had a spy, and because of him the other where able to take people, maybe that was gonna happen if Ethan hadnt been killed.

Catysg1
January 20th, 2006, 06:47 AM
Great episode! Jack is really the best example of the nice guy getting screwed all the time. He always tries his hardest to help people and be a good person, but it always ends in heart-break. Nice guys finish last, girls love jerks, evident in Kate getting in with Sawyer, even though he is a jerk, and rejecting Jack who isn't perfect, but always tries to help and has good intentions.


I agree :)
Jack is kind hearted and nobody is perfect so he has his faults too ... but Usually Jerks like Sawyer do attract girls ..I don't know why but I went through it too ..stupid me :cool: but as you get a little older ...you tend to go for nicer guys with a kind heart who could be as exciting that the jerks .. specially if you want a stable relationship ..Can't have a stable relationship with jerks ...they are the type of guys who want short relationships and they usually go for younger girls .

At the end of the day ..it's better for Jack to leave Kate alone ..he is doing the right thing by backing up ..He is smart that way .. If Kate wants to be with Sawyer ..so let it be ..It's only by doing that that she will know who she really wants to be with . :) but I agree Sawyer is a jerk .

Caty :)

Vyse
January 20th, 2006, 05:45 PM
I agree :)
Jack is kind hearted and nobody is perfect so he has his faults too ... but Usually Jerks like Sawyer do attract girls ..I don't know why but I went through it too ..stupid me :cool: but as you get a little older ...you tend to go for nicer guys with a kind heart who could be as exciting that the jerks .. specially if you want a stable relationship ..Can't have a stable relationship with jerks ...they are the type of guys who want short relationships and they usually go for younger girls .

At the end of the day ..it's better for Jack to leave Kate alone ..he is doing the right thing by backing up ..He is smart that way .. If Kate wants to be with Sawyer ..so let it be ..It's only by doing that that she will know who she really wants to be with . :) but I agree Sawyer is a jerk .

Caty :)

Yeah, very true. Just a little personal for me especially from High School. Being known as "The Nice Guy" is like a death sentence with High School Girls, lol. I'm in college so hopefully I'll have better luck now!

I think Jack should leave Kate alone since she is such a bad person. He should go for a more moral girl than she is. He was right in backing off, just keeps things strictly professional. He doesn't need to ignore her completely, but say only what is needed and that is it. Well this stuff will have to go on hold a bit (thank God) if they are going to train an army. Go big fight scenes!

Ender1708
January 21st, 2006, 02:29 PM
I really think there's something wierdishly old about those "others", the gun that zeke guy was holding was a luger, the nazi's side arm in WW2, and from what i understood from the series that Dharma Initiative was american, why were there only kalasnikov's in the armory? :) Oh yeah, and what Ana Lucia said about that knife a few episodes back. :)

Osiris-RA
January 21st, 2006, 02:48 PM
Pretty good episode. Hehehe, I bet Kate really is working for The Others. I mean, it works! She gets 'captured', Jack and Sawyer and Locke have no choice but to turn over a good quantity of the weapons. Genius! What a mind job Katie's done! Brava. :rolleyes: :D

Meanwhile, shipping and gunk aside (Jack is such a pig! Sawyer is a nice lil ol country boy, Kate, open your eyes!! And A-L, don't even think about it, Jack's a Mr. Fix-It, run fast, run far!!) the highlight of the ep? Army plans. I smell action coming. Finally A-L can get up off her butt and look like she's doing something. War time! Losties vs Others! Boo Yah.

Nyarlathotep
January 23rd, 2006, 04:12 AM
Anyone else find it odd that Jack spoke to Anna-Lucia (cop) about training an army when they have an ex-soldier (Sayeed) in the group?

Aurum
January 23rd, 2006, 04:19 AM
Anyone else find it odd that Jack spoke to Anna-Lucia (cop) about training an army when they have an ex-soldier (Sayeed) in the group?

You're right, Sayid does seem like the person to ask on such matters, but I think Jack didn't ask him because he was giving him time to grieve. I mean Shannon died, like just two days ago, right? I suppose Jack was just giving him space. I personally don't think it had much do do with the fact that it was Ana, and he wanted to talk to her, besides the fact that maybe he wants her to feel involved with the group because she's been somewhat alienated since what happened to Shannon. Anyway, if Jack carries out his plan, I'm sure Syaid will be one of the next to know.

MarshAngel
January 23rd, 2006, 05:29 PM
Anyone else find it odd that Jack spoke to Anna-Lucia (cop) about training an army when they have an ex-soldier (Sayeed) in the group?
Maybe, because Ana has already killed one of them he's decided that she would do what needs to be done. I think Sayid would raise more questions about whether it was the right approach or not and I don't think that Jack wants to hear those questions right now.

Metarock Sam
June 28th, 2006, 01:21 AM
Still in Shock from tihs ep. :eek:
What a great eppy. Michael running off crazy!!!! interaction between Jin and Sun at last !!!!!! Sawyer making up nicknames for Locke !!!!! Charlie and Hurley's man to man !!!!! And then we had our first proper meeting with the Others !!!!!!
Although they didnt seem to know about Ethan which is interesting.
SIde note: the only problem I had with this episode was Jack's flashbacks . They were really annoying and I just wanted to see what was going to happen.
I give it 8/10

mentalmichael
July 5th, 2006, 12:46 PM
Good episode, and the scene with the torches was fantastic!

However, we really haven't learnt anything new about the others. We know they speak English, are probably American in origin, are equipped with US army gear (although apparently not US army weapons), have been on the Island for over 16 years, and probably occupy the third bunker referred to in the Dharma video (IMO). We know they like to take children (probably looking to keep their numbers up long-term) and "good" people, but that last one is iffy. We knew all of this before this episode - for an ep so focussed on the others would have been nice to learn about their origins.
The only thing that we learned about them in this ep is that they use guns. Oh, and that they are aware of Michael's powers.

I want more damnit!

Cam_Mitchell
July 15th, 2006, 10:23 AM
Awsome spetialy bit bout the others when they actually talk. WOW


--Gaz--

MB.Eddie
July 16th, 2006, 12:33 AM
I liked the ending to this episode, and the bit with the torches was cool too :)