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Icemancmd
July 17th, 2004, 06:17 PM
Anythoughts on this? The Wraith finding Earth via Startgate and dialing out to it? With the technogoly they have they must have a way to break through the Iris (Maybe not the power one but the earth one im sure) This could make things VERY VERY Interesting...they kinda hinted it yesterday when the zomie lady with the nice teeth was trying to get it out of the Col.

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 06:20 PM
I don't think she was able to extract the information she needed from Summner, but gateworld has reported



SPOILER


that the Wraith, later on do find out about the Milky Way.

Excali5033
July 17th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Good luck getting there without ZPMs. :b

Icemancmd
July 17th, 2004, 06:22 PM
You dont think with the Techonology the Wraith have they wouldnt have sometime with enough power to dial out to Earth?

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 06:23 PM
They have a massive mothership with their entire collective colony.....they could just use that to travel there.

Excali5033
July 17th, 2004, 06:25 PM
I can't possibly imagine how long flying there would take. Maybe they could duplicate a power source, but they probably won't bother, because it'd be too much cross-series interaction.

Hyperspace
July 17th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Gosh I hope they can't just fly out to Earth...from what the Ancient holo-lady said, the Atlantis gate was their only link to the Pegasus Galaxy. Does that mean the Atlantis gate is the one the Wraith must capture?

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 06:27 PM
It would also create a massive story arc, like for the final season. Were the Wraith and Goa'uld have a war while the wraith on on their way to earth. The SGA Teams bring Atlantis ack to earth, and the Asgard and te Taur'i along with the Tokra, and the Nox, have to mount a defense against the Wraith, and the conquered Jaffa Army. Killer seaosn!

Calicto
July 17th, 2004, 06:30 PM
DownFallAngel,

That mothership was not their entire collective colony. It was only one of hundreds I presume. Seriously, if that was only one, the Ancients could have come back and easily killed them with one of their Jelly of Doom weapon.

Calicto
July 17th, 2004, 06:31 PM
Hyperspace,

No. The Wraith do not need to capture the Atlantis Gate. The Ancient lady did not say that. I've watched the episode 4 times up to date (Downloaded it).

Hyperspace
July 17th, 2004, 06:41 PM
^^^

So then the only thing they need is the gate address? Wraith mind-torture...dumdumdum (scary) !!!!

What about the Ancients fleeing a 'plague' in the Milky Way Galaxy? If not the Wraith, then what was it?

Dragonlor
July 17th, 2004, 10:00 PM
Just what Earth needs...Baal to send a fleet to attack Earth and then the Wraith plowing through their iris at the same time. Uh oh...

Lugal
July 17th, 2004, 10:08 PM
It would also create a massive story arc, like for the final season. Were the Wraith and Goa'uld have a war while the wraith on on their way to earth. The SGA Teams bring Atlantis ack to earth, and the Asgard and te Taur'i along with the Tokra, and the Nox, have to mount a defense against the Wraith, and the conquered Jaffa Army. Killer seaosn!

That would kick ass. I want to see the Wraith go up against the Nox. Who could out illusion the another?

w1cket01
July 17th, 2004, 10:11 PM
They could just send their ships to earth and sleep along the way while bringing some food with them... :D

David85
July 17th, 2004, 11:08 PM
Didn't the Anient hologram say that only Atlantis's gate can dial Earth?

Lostinmyownvoid
July 18th, 2004, 12:22 AM
Didn't the Anient hologram say that only Atlantis's gate can dial Earth?
Probably because its the only gate hooked up to three ZPMs.

TheWarrior
July 18th, 2004, 02:43 AM
It would also create a massive story arc, like for the final season. Were the Wraith and Goa'uld have a war while the wraith on on their way to earth. The SGA Teams bring Atlantis ack to earth, and the Asgard and te Taur'i along with the Tokra, and the Nox, have to mount a defense against the Wraith, and the conquered Jaffa Army. Killer seaosn!

That would be a great idea but it would also make a great plot for the SG-1 film if there is still to be one.

Torley
July 18th, 2004, 02:53 AM
Wow that would be epic... I don't know how they'd pull it off in a single 2-hour movie, but I did like the Dominion War arc that took place at the end of Star Trek: DS9. I hope the series finale is a fitting conclusion and not something like Xena or X-Files which left a sour taste in mouth upon hearing about it :(

I imagine there could be an exchange like this:


Thor: Greetings. *wave of his slender hand*
Wraith: *hisssssssssssss!!*
Thor: So you desire nourishment? Try these, I like the yellow ones *hands out his tray of minimal food-shape things*
Wraith (getting more frustrated now, swats the tray): *boooooo hissssssssssssss!!!!*
Thor: After mealtime we can rest our bodies if you wish, but I see that you are still... alert. So... let us play.. (reaches into a compartment)
Wraith: ???
Thor: This is called... a Re-pli-ca-tor.

Thor's eyes furrow with the confident strength that comes with the recent Tau'ri-Replicator alliance that the Asgard helped to finalize. His eyes grow dark and stormy, almost an evil look in his eyes for the benign Thor. The Replicator whirs, clicks, and then transforms from an earlier bugform into a grasping, acid-spraying claw in a shape not unlike the Wraith's own. It latches itself onto the Wraith's chest and begins spraying its acid and feeding... on the organic cells of the Wraith which have proven most helpful in developing new humanform Replicators.

Wraith (smoking and steaming in pain and trying all multitude of psi trickery that doesn't affect the Replicator-hand): *hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!*
Thor (waving a friendly way): Good-bye, Generic Wraith. I have a dentist's appointment. I will see how you are getting along with your new friend later.

Selmak
July 18th, 2004, 11:13 AM
They have a massive mothership with their entire collective colony.....they could just use that to travel there.
we don't know the capabilities of the mothership... we don't know the type of propulsion it uses.

Hyperspace
July 18th, 2004, 03:10 PM
Wow that would be epic... I don't know how they'd pull it off in a single 2-hour movie, but I did like the Dominion War arc that took place at the end of Star Trek: DS9. I hope the series finale is a fitting conclusion and not something like Xena or X-Files which left a sour taste in mouth upon hearing about it :(

I imagine there could be an exchange like this:


Thor: Greetings. *wave of his slender hand*
Wraith: *hisssssssssssss!!*
Thor: So you desire nourishment? Try these, I like the yellow ones *hands out his tray of minimal food-shape things*
Wraith (getting more frustrated now, swats the tray): *boooooo hissssssssssssss!!!!*
Thor: After mealtime we can rest our bodies if you wish, but I see that you are still... alert. So... let us play.. (reaches into a compartment)
Wraith: ???
Thor: This is called... a Re-pli-ca-tor.

Thor's eyes furrow with the confident strength that comes with the recent Tau'ri-Replicator alliance that the Asgard helped to finalize. His eyes grow dark and stormy, almost an evil look in his eyes for the benign Thor. The Replicator whirs, clicks, and then transforms from an earlier bugform into a grasping, acid-spraying claw in a shape not unlike the Wraith's own. It latches itself onto the Wraith's chest and begins spraying its acid and feeding... on the organic cells of the Wraith which have proven most helpful in developing new humanform Replicators.

Wraith (smoking and steaming in pain and trying all multitude of psi trickery that doesn't affect the Replicator-hand): *hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!*
Thor (waving a friendly way): Good-bye, Generic Wraith. I have a dentist's appointment. I will see how you are getting along with your new friend later.


LOL!!!! That captures the dispassionate yet emotional Asgard ethic perfectly!!! And skewers the Wraith characteristics well also!

Mio
July 18th, 2004, 03:17 PM
Hyperspace,

No. The Wraith do not need to capture the Atlantis Gate. The Ancient lady did not say that. I've watched the episode 4 times up to date (Downloaded it).
Without a dialing computer/power source better than a DHD, and the 7 gylphs for Earth....do we even know them?......they can't get here.

But the holoancient said that the atlantis stargate was the only link back to Earth.

EYU86
July 18th, 2004, 03:20 PM
Without a dialing computer/power source better than a DHD, and the 7 gylphs for Earth....do we even know them?......they can't get here.

But the holoancient said that the atlantis stargate was the only link back to Earth.
Maybe she meant that the Atlantis stargate was the only gate with enough power to get back to Earth...
Not anymore though, but it was.

aeroe
July 18th, 2004, 03:23 PM
But the holoancient said that the atlantis stargate was the only link back to Earth.

The Wraith probably besieged Atlantis meaning the Stargate was the only way to escape. That's how I took it...

Mio
July 18th, 2004, 03:29 PM
The Wraith probably besieged Atlantis meaning the Stargate was the only way to escape. That's how I took it... Nope.

Here's what the holoancient said:

"The atlantis stargate was the one and only link back to Earth from this galaxy, and those who remained used it to return that world that was once home."

It could be that the Atlantis stargate was the only one even capable of 8-chevron dialings....

Ugly Pig
July 18th, 2004, 03:36 PM
What about the Ancients fleeing a 'plague' in the Milky Way Galaxy? If not the Wraith, then what was it?
It was literally a plague, as in a sickness.

EYU86
July 18th, 2004, 03:40 PM
Nope.

Here's what the holoancient said:

"The atlantis stargate was the one and only link back to Earth from this galaxy, and those who remained used it to return that world that was once home."

It could be that the Atlantis stargate was the only one even capable of 8-chevron dialings....
Yea, that too should be taken into account with the whole power issue, Atlantis being the only gate hooked up with enough juice.

Tannis
July 18th, 2004, 03:45 PM
I think the wraith know about earth now, but they don't know where it is other than it is a long way away.

We know the wraith knew about the Ancient's technology and possibly how it worked. I wonder if the genetic marker or gene that the Ancient's used as a marker that they have all their equipment keyed to wasn't put there to keep the wraith from being able to use the Ancient's technology against them. It would make sense.. that way the Ancient's could make sure that only one of their race or their direct descendents would be able to interface with and use their technology. Remember the Wraith Keeper recognized the Ancient's technology.

The Wraith know now that the Ancient's city has risen and their enemies are back in one form or another. If you haven't read it the "Annals of the Curator of the Feeding Grounds, in the first rotation of the New Awakening of the Wraith" posted on Scifi's website HERE (http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/aliens/) makes for a great read and seems to be designed to keep us up to date with things from the wraith point of view.

chiefchucky
July 18th, 2004, 03:47 PM
It was literally a plague, as in a sickness.
It has been hypothesised that the wraiths unleashed that sickness on them

Blue_Revan
July 18th, 2004, 03:49 PM
the wraith are vampire like, so they probibly ate them.

Mio
July 18th, 2004, 03:50 PM
We know the wraith knew about the Ancient's technology and possibly how it worked. I wonder if the genetic marker or gene that the Ancient's used as a marker that they have all their equipment keyed to wasn't put there to keep the wraith from being able to use the Ancient's technology against them. It would make sense.. that way the Ancient's could make sure that only one of their race or their direct descendents would be able to interface with and use their technology. Remember the Wraith Keeper recognized the Ancient's technology.
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The chair is pre-Wraith Contact. Blows up the whole 'lets not let the wraith use our technology theory'