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Anubis67
December 21st, 2005, 01:22 AM
Why no deleted scenes on the DVDs?

I understand that a fair few stories have had scenes deleted so why are they not getting put on the DVds?
WHy are there also no outakes or bloopers?
These are often the best extras and I would love to be able to see them.

Skydiver
December 21st, 2005, 04:50 AM
because, imho, it would take time. time to reedit the episodes, time to cull out the bloopers, time to put it all together.

and since time = money and money spent = less profit, it's not likely for them to do that

Nem2k
December 21st, 2005, 04:51 AM
the official line is that theres not enough room on the DVDs, although this is something theyre trying to work into for the S10 ones

its a shame they cut the audio commentaries from the S8 DVDs as well, i loved those things :(

skritsys
December 21st, 2005, 06:34 AM
That is the main reason why I buy the DVD's to get the commentaries and bonus stuff like outtakes, and stuff. Sucks that they supposedly do not have the space....what with dual layer technology they should be able to afford it.

Skydiver
December 21st, 2005, 06:51 AM
the official line is that theres not enough room on the DVDs, although this is something theyre trying to work into for the S10 ones

its a shame they cut the audio commentaries from the S8 DVDs as well, i loved those things :(
that seems like a pretty flimsy excuse now that they've got 20 eps instead of 22 on the same number of dvd's

The Signal
December 21st, 2005, 07:11 AM
Yeah thats a pretty pathetic excuse, I would love deleted scenes and outakes etc

Nem2k
December 21st, 2005, 07:20 AM
another reason that there arent deleted scenes from earlier seasons is because brad wright likes to keep them for their end of year parties, but now that hes not really attached to SG1 anymore, i dont know why they dont get released

and yeah its pretty stupid, but we're talking about sony/mgm, its to be expected :rolleyes:

im more peaved about the audio commentaries than anything tbh

i mean, season 8. theyre down to 20 episodes on the same number of discs. there arent as many episodes of the director series, and theyve taken out the audio commentaries?? why?? surely there should be so much more room on these S8 dvds :mad:

Skydiver
December 21st, 2005, 09:43 AM
personally i think it's less an issue of room and more an issue of not spending the time (money) to make specials adn re edit episodes

heck, even culling bloopers is a full time job for someone.

let's just play pretend and say that they shoot every scene with only two cameras. now if they work a 14 hour day then they probably have 4-6 hours of tape for each camera. which means that each day, some person would have to to through those 8-12 hours of video to find and pull out the bloopers. course, folks also want to get their hands on this stuff and really edit it, so you can't always risk those tapes being hurt (and if they're shooting on film, it has to be processed and developed)

basically you end up with there being more tape than a person could go through and it would take them all day to pull this stuff out

difficult job? no. but something they'd have to pay someone to do. and obviousy, not something skiffy/mgm/sony care about much

anyway, why should they up the content of the dvd's if folks are willing to and do pay the same amount of money to get less like they already are??? I don't nkow about you but i paid the same amount to buy 20 eps that i spent to buy 22 a couple of years ago

Serebii
December 21st, 2005, 01:54 PM
Don't see what the point in watching deleted scenes is anyway...they're usually deleted for a good reason

There's just no point in wasting money & man power on them

BigBadBob
December 21st, 2005, 06:21 PM
That is the main reason why I buy the DVD's to get the commentaries and bonus stuff like outtakes, and stuff. Sucks that they supposedly do not have the space....what with dual layer technology they should be able to afford it.

or just add another disc with all the extras they have on it.

the fifth man
December 21st, 2005, 07:15 PM
I would love to get my hands on some of this show's deleted scenes. I'm sure there are some awesome moments we as fans are missing out on. Imagine bloopers from an ep like "Window of Opportunity". You know those would be freaking hilarious.

Nem2k
December 22nd, 2005, 01:33 AM
or just add another disc with all the extras they have on it.

aint ever going to happen

if mgm/sony dont want to pay someone to cut together a blooper reel then they sure as hell arent paying for the production of a second DVD :rolleyes:

Albion
January 14th, 2006, 07:29 AM
Don't see what the point in watching deleted scenes is anyway...they're usually deleted for a good reason

I'd have to disagree. I enjoy deleted scenes on movie DVDs and I find that only very rarely do I agree with the stated reason from the director as to why they were deleted. Same with alternate endings - I more often than not like the ending they deleted over the one they used. Directors are human, just like the rest of us - they're not always right. It's their perogative to choose what to delete, but that doesn't mean we have to agree with it.

As for SG1 - the deleted scenes that I've heard of (on commentaries) have been deleted for factors of time, rather than content. Where, for example, an episode has overrun and needs to be trimmed. There's one disk where whoever's doing the commentary (think it might be Michael Shanks talking about what had to be deleted out of Fallen) states that when time is an issue the first things that fall victim to the scissors are the quiet, character moments in favour of the action. One example I know of which was filmed, but later deleted, would be the rest of SG1 comforting Teal'c after Shaunac's death in Crossroads.

Since character moments are what I enjoy most, you can bet I'm rooting for some of those deleted scenes to be issued on DVD at some point! <g>

The story I've heard over the years is that they may produce a special DVD of bloopers/deletes at some point - perhaps when the show has finished. I'd certainly pay for that kind of DVD and I don't think I'm alone. ;)

Albion :)

HirogenGater
January 14th, 2006, 08:03 AM
I would like to see bloopers and deleted scenes as well. One scene that comes to mind is in the episode where Daniel comes back. At a convention I attended, I heard there was a scene with Daniel and Sam. Sam asks "why did you never come to see me?" ( Daniel visited Jack, and T'ealc ). Daniel's reply was "Because you never needed me." I don't know if it was shot or just scripted, but I would have liked to have seen it.

Formerhost
January 14th, 2006, 08:40 AM
the official line is that theres not enough room on the DVDs, although this is something theyre trying to work into for the S10 ones

its a shame they cut the audio commentaries from the S8 DVDs as well, i loved those things :(

Not enough room? Don't make me laugh... check the new Farscape - Starburst Edition to see how many extras ADV Films (independent DVD company) was able to include in this edition, and they added much more extras to already existing ones without removing anything what was released in previous editions).

Callista
January 14th, 2006, 09:48 AM
I'd also like to see the deleted scenes. I just watched the extended version of the movie and the commentators tell you when you're watching a scene that got edited out of the film when they showed it in theaters. Some of those scenes really add to the film as a whole and make the motivations of the characters much more understandable. If you watch old TV shows on regular TV now, a lot of them are so hacked up to make more room for commercials that they no longer make any sense. I suspect a lot of what seems to be missing from some episodes of SG-1 when you're watching was filmed and just got cut out like the scene between Sam and Daniel in "Fallen" that was mentioned earlier.

SaberBlade
January 14th, 2006, 10:55 AM
the DVD being used have 8.5gb available because they are normal dual layer discs. i've tried a few DVDs and they have come to around 7.5gb so there is a lot of space to have some deleted scenes.

the thing is, the final DVD in the boxsets usually have just two episodes, that final disc should have a lot of space to include a large selection of deleted scenes from the previous season so discs not having a lot of space is a lame excuse

Serebii
January 16th, 2006, 03:55 PM
I would like to see bloopers and deleted scenes as well. One scene that comes to mind is in the episode where Daniel comes back. At a convention I attended, I heard there was a scene with Daniel and Sam. Sam asks "why did you never come to see me?" ( Daniel visited Jack, and T'ealc ). Daniel's reply was "Because you never needed me." I don't know if it was shot or just scripted, but I would have liked to have seen it.
That doesn't make sense as Daniel doesnt remember anything of his ascension until Morpheus and after that he remembers very little

In Orpheus Daniel had no idea that he visited Teal'c

Lt. Colonel Ryu Gaia
January 16th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Joe was right when he said that he should have changed Morpheus's title to "sleeping with the enemy at the gates of heaven can wait until dark water world." Too many people are confusing it with Season 7s "Orpheus."

Serebii
January 17th, 2006, 02:10 PM
My bad, I dont usually make those kinds of errors :p

po134
January 21st, 2006, 10:51 AM
Skydiver > at the price that they sell these "/$/?/ season pack they could add stuff as they did at the sixth season with some exclusive stuff !

and deleted scene would be sooo great ! Especially for the episode that they cut a lot in the season 8 (beware spoiler ???) when daniel meet oma and anubis in a restaurant, they said the episode was even longer thn the 90 minutes episode that aired on the network

Anyway as I said, we could get more stuff for our money, but the cash might not be a major problem with the upcoming blue-ray disk for stargate season, they will be able to put their entire season on a single disk, or on mulktiple disk if they want it in pure-hdtv ... the point is they could add a lot more stuff with the new space available !

Billz
January 22nd, 2006, 03:50 PM
Its basically because ever since the MGM buyout by Sony, MGM have become extremely cheap and selfish. This is also the reason why MGM cancelled the Stargate game, because they are cheap.

Pain in the mikta
January 24th, 2006, 05:01 PM
i mean, season 8. theyre down to 20 episodes on the same number of discs. there arent as many episodes of the director series, and theyve taken out the audio commentaries?? why?? surely there should be so much more room on these S8 dvds :mad:

I don't understand what's the deal with the DVDs sold in North America! They don't have half the extras (or don't have any) that can be found on the sets sold in Europe.

I have the French S8 set, and the commentaries are there, plus photo galleries and stuff with CJ, AT, MS live at conventions, plus extras about the making of the series, trailers and an RDA special!

To top it all, they're avalaible a lot sooner over the pond!

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