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GateWorld
July 12th, 2004, 07:59 PM
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<FONT SIZE=4 COLOR="#0066BF"><B>RISING, PART 1</B></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 101</FONT>
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A new Stargate team embarks on a dangerous mission to a distant galaxy, where they discover a mythical lost city -- and a deadly new enemy.

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Marvelous
July 16th, 2004, 07:05 PM
I just died laughing when Col. Sumner asked Maj. Sheppard who was in charge excepting John to say him but he said Weir instead. I forgot the exact dialoge, but it had me rolling.

DownFallAngel
July 16th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Summner: You do know who is in charge here?
Sheppard: That would be Dr. Weir....right?

Mio
July 16th, 2004, 07:40 PM
"That was a waste of a perfectly good explanation."

Hehehehe.

DownFallAngel
July 16th, 2004, 07:42 PM
Jack is the man.

Beckett: I feel something...but I think it might be my lunch.
McKay: SIT...DOWN

Mio
July 16th, 2004, 07:47 PM
Drones? ::complains:: They're Glowy Jellyfish of Doom I tell you! DOOOOM!

DownFallAngel
July 16th, 2004, 07:48 PM
I PUT A SLASH! Don't make me get aAnubiSs!!!

Selmak
July 16th, 2004, 07:50 PM
Drones? ::complains:: They're Jellyfish of Doom I tell you! DOOOOM!
Don't forget the glowy part... Glowy Jellyfish of Doom

Mio
July 16th, 2004, 07:53 PM
Don't forget the glowy part... Glowy Jellyfish of Doom
::scrambles to correct the mistake::

::phew::

No one will ever be the wiser....

DownFallAngel
July 16th, 2004, 07:55 PM
You Forgot Glowy And You Yelled At Me!>>!>!

Ancient
July 16th, 2004, 08:09 PM
I loved the opening scene with the girl form frozen being left behind, and the cityship taking off form Anartica, I crave more I must know more of th ancients I am ancient obsessed. . . I cant wait for next week

Kaloo
July 16th, 2004, 10:51 PM
this is the first time my sister saw it and she went McGiever

I thought the ep was good

actorguyil
July 16th, 2004, 11:31 PM
Anyone else notice that the actor playing Dr. Weir's significant other was Garwin Sanford (Nareem)?! Cool!

Pat :D

morjana
July 16th, 2004, 11:53 PM
The SciFi Channel's "Stargate Atlantis" site has an content in their
episode guide for 'Rising':


Rising - Part One

http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/episodes/season1/episode101/

Includes four photos and an episode synopsis.


Rising - Part Two

http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/episodes/season1/episode102/

Includes four photos, an episode synopsis, and a cast list.


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Morjana

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Richard Dean Anderson Fans
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aAnubiSs
July 17th, 2004, 05:10 AM
I PUT A SLASH! Don't make me get aAnubiSs!!!

You called honey?

nugglebugget
July 17th, 2004, 06:33 AM
I particularly likedthe exchange between Weir & O'Neill wher she was trying to persuade him to get Sheppard to join the "Atlantis expedition".O'Neill points out the insubordination & such that was in his record.
Weir responded with such a cute smile as she told him "I've read your file...."

The look on O'Neill's face was great;He was afine one to talk!:D

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 06:54 AM
Daniel: (looks at everyone walking through the gate) Jack...(gets cut off)
Jack: (looks at Daniel) Daniel...NO

lol. Poor Daniel...getting all left behind after finding out the address.

aAnubiSs
July 17th, 2004, 07:44 AM
But I think Daniel understood he had to stay behind. There are still many things to learn in this galaxy. Maybe he'll leave for Atlantis in the last episode in season 8.

Mio
July 17th, 2004, 07:55 AM
But I think Daniel understood he had to stay behind. There are still many things to learn in this galaxy. Maybe he'll leave for Atlantis in the last episode in season 8.
That would actually be cool. If they don't continue Stargate SG1, they could try to move tapping, shanks, and judge over to Atlantis as secondary characters.

aAnubiSs
July 17th, 2004, 08:06 AM
That would actually be cool. If they don't continue Stargate SG1, they could try to move tapping, shanks, and judge over to Atlantis as secondary characters.

I didn't really mean they would have to show him on the show. I meant that it would be an understandable decision of him if he wanted to go :)

But I would love if MS and AT went on to Atlantis after SG1

Elwe Singollo
July 17th, 2004, 08:57 AM
I wouldn't mind for them to go on the show either, but i just have a feeling some people would rather just keep them away, because then it would turn into SG1 revamped, but of course, there goes my crazy ideas, poor Daniel, missed learning opportunities :(

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 08:57 AM
Yea I think Teal'c would go back to Chulack or some planet and begin to lead the Jaffa, as a free people. Him and Ishta would hook up.

I think SC and DJ might make an appearace or two on the show, but then again they have lives on Earth. DJ is with Sarah, and SC is with Pete.

Kaloo
July 17th, 2004, 09:27 AM
I was watching it again and went Apophis... Apophis had a body that looks like the ancient man in the beginning.

Mio
July 17th, 2004, 09:34 AM
The way he stared at the lady who was probably the person from 'Frozen' was very apophis-like.

greytop
July 17th, 2004, 10:13 AM
Daniel: (looks at everyone walking through the gate) Jack...(gets cut off)
Jack: (looks at Daniel) Daniel...NO

lol. Poor Daniel...getting all left behind after finding out the address.
My favorite part of Pt1. Daniel even gets off twice. They way they did it, made me laugh.

Selmak
July 17th, 2004, 11:06 AM
The way he stared at the lady who was probably the person from 'Frozen' was very apophis-like.
That's what I was thinking... that guy was looking at the Frozen lady weird... They should have spoken some Ancient.

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 11:20 AM
So the guy was Aphophis and the girl was the chick from Frozen. Cool!

professor_griff
July 17th, 2004, 05:53 PM
So the guy was Aphophis and the girl was the chick from Frozen. Cool!

I actually thought that as well but:

ep. "Rising"
Male Ancient - (Aaron Dudley)
Female Ancient - (Ona Grauer )


Apophis - (Peter Williams)

Frozen chick in ep. "Frozen"
Ayiana - (Ona Grauer)

Selmak
July 17th, 2004, 11:02 PM
The dude looked a lot like Apophis though... he was looking at her weird too.

Roatbaum
July 17th, 2004, 11:15 PM
Loved it L-o-v-e-d it.It is totally not a spin off, it is completely different, more sci fi. But it is great, great characters, and how scary are the Wraith? "We are caretakers for those who are sleeping," :eek: .She was awful, they are awful.I'm gonna love this show as much as the original.Wonderful idea !!

nugglebugget
July 18th, 2004, 05:33 AM
The dude looked a lot like Apophis though... he was looking at her weird too.
My son kept insisting that was "Apophis" & I thought so too.He certainly gave her the "Apophis" gaze.

Persephone
July 18th, 2004, 12:15 PM
He did resemble Apophis, so I can see how people would think that.

I was SOOO excited to see Ona Grauer, though! "Frozen" is one of my favorite SG-1 episodes.

I very much enjoyed the pilot. I think they did a superb job of establishing Weir, Sheppard, Beckett, and McKay. Teyla and Ford were both a little fuzzy in the development arena, but I'm sure they'll come about as very strong, too.

Not quite sure what I think of the Wraith yet. Creepy and intriguing, certainly, but at this point I think I prefer the Goa'uld and the Replicators as villains. Still, I'm not shutting the door of my opinion on any element of Atlantis just yet.

Special effects- great! :)

EDIT: This sort of goes for both parts of the pilot. I'm having a hard time all-around thinking of it as two separate things.

Newbie
July 18th, 2004, 07:21 PM
yep i also thought he looked like Apophis...but oh well...
Anyway...they didn't speak to eachother...i think there is a reason for that...and we might get to know it later in the show ;) or not...
Now about ATL - I Loved IT!!! And it's a new show in my TO WATCH list!!! ;)

Archivekeepr
July 18th, 2004, 10:26 PM
If I were to be completely honest, I would probably only give "Rising" 5 out 10 points, along with the comment that had Stargate: Atlantis not been the spin-off of Stargate: SG-1, I would probably not be tuning in every week to watch it. (Yes, this does mean that I will continue to watch/tape the new episodes. Even if I'm mostly doing so for neat special effects.) I know that this opinion may seem harsh, but it's what I feel. If any other posters feel that I'm completely whacked out of my gourd, that's okay.

Now, instead just spraying the entire thing with gasoline and burning it to the ground, I've gotta give them credit for the conceptual idea- Had they execute it differently, the show could conceivably be something that I could fall in love with for years to come. But, as it was shown, a lot of little things were off, mostly due to artistic laziness, I think. For example, every issue below could have been taken care of with better structure:
The Universal English issue- They could have just taken 30 seconds and just added a scene about finding a universal translator. That would have taken care of all the *****ing. But, since I'm not entirely bothered by this issue, I'll leave that bomb alone for the most part.
Mega!Sheppard- As much as I have to give them props for their choice of Joe Flanigan as male lead- He's definitely adorable in my book. I mean, not cute enough for me ignore all the plotholes and errors, but still cute. I personally think that the evolution of lowly pilot to superhero was done a bit too rapidly for my liking. It should have been staged differently and not have him be so super so fast. Also, not to anger all the jackophile here, but I probably would have prefered if they designed a new personality for the new male lead.
I don't really worship at the altar of the Ancients. I have a bone to pick with TPTB about the fact that they just keep rolling out the "Use Ancient Tech!" deus ex machina over and over."Can't defeat Anubis?" "Use Ancient tech!" "Can't defeat the replicators?" "Use Ancient Tech!" Sorry, RCC and BW- That's one too many time for me. Can't there be some other way to accomplish the impossible for once?
Teyla Emmagan- Not a bad idea, but why in the hell would she fall for Shepard right off? I mean, last time I checked, this is not Stargate: Romeo & Juliet. You want shippahoy, fine! Take time to develop it. Write a scene about how maybe she finds him cute (I found the rehash of Daniel cave scene a bit silly. That scene worked for D&E in the first place BECAUSE she had to communicate with him primitively. Take that away, it doesn't really have a purpose.)
What about the city that Teyla's ancestors used to live in? Did I miss something or did they just drop it like that, after make all that hoopla about needing to explore it?
About Elizabeth Weir objecting the relocation of the Athosians. I know that the scene was done to show that Sheppard's got all the rightness about him, even morally. But, they really shouldn't have given the line to Weir. She's an international diplomat, she would have understand the importance about allies, especially after Jinto noted that he knew of gate addresses. Had they give that line to McKay or a soldier guy, that would have been fine. They would have been the few who immediately thought that security was being compromised.
What the hell was Ayiana, her guy friend, Holo!Ancient and the female Wraith wearing?! Where does it say that every advanced alien species must wear the fugly silver outfit with the should pads of power? And if you're a half lizard, half vampire thing- Why are you wearing a DKNY wedding dress? It really just didn't work too well.
The Wraith wasn't as bad as I'd hoped, but I'd definitely cringe if I bumped into one in a dark alley. Mostly because they're ugly and kind of gross, what with all the slime and teeth. Also, what was up with the whole "human inhibiting protein cells" thing? I mean, I'm not a biologist by any means, but that even sounds messed up to my mother! BW should have either hired a biology advisor or just read up on some stuff before writing about this kind of thing. Had they mentioned the whole wraith immortality thing with regards to telomeres, I'd be fine with it, even if they were BSing.
The dead Wraith was really lame. If you're going to herald a species with advanced instant healing ability, then do so. Make it so that they are incapacitied by the shots. Also, why did Sheppard stab the female Wraith?! If that worked, wouldn't shooting her also do it? isn't stabbing based on the same principle as being shot, in which a foreign object penetrates the skin and goes where it shouldn't go?
Colonel Sumner dying wasn't a bad idea, but I personally would have kept him around. But just all aged and can't go on missions anymore. That would probably angst Sheppard up even more and been even better of a drama.

Whew. In order to cool myself down from all that flame spitting, I guess I have to account for the good parts as well:
"Rising's" pace was pretty good for a TV movie; it got the audience in the mood to cheer for the SGA team and didn't let us wait for too long to do that. It wasn't the tightest line-up, but it didn't leave us hanging too much.
The city coming up out of the coean- I was actually was smiling when that happened. I don't know how much they spent on it, but however much, it was probably worth it.
Mckay, Beckett and Ford- The comedy relief trio. Although these three didn't get much to do besides run away and yelling about how they're all gonna die, they weren't bad. I liked the fact that Mckay was toned down, but he still annoys me slightly.

Overall, it wasn't the best, but it wasn't the absolute worst either.

Erik Pasternak
July 19th, 2004, 11:05 PM
I think the real reason they didn't use universal translators in this episode because Teyla's a series regular and they wanted her to speak English, just like everyone else. I think they'll introduce the UT's later on.

sshspooky
July 20th, 2004, 07:24 AM
The show will not do good in the ratings. It can't. Network execs need to realize that quality cannot be bought by the advertizing dollar.

Well, so far it's done alright!

Unfortunately, living in the Uk i depend on sites to provide downloadable versions of the episodes to see thme a few days afterwards. I have seen the first part, but not the second, so I will just post a few comments here and then a my full thoughts in the other thread when i've seen the whole thing.

Firstly, I liked the guest appearances from O'Neill and Daniel. I'm sort of glad they didn't have Teal'c and Sam in it as well as that may have confused new audiences a bit, but Jack as the in charge guy and Daniel the brains behind the address and everything was good.

New Wormhole - pretty cool. it certainly makes a nice change, and was a pretty good sequence.

The Atlantis Gate - Amazing. The force field Iris is great, and how it dials is just brilliant.

The Characters - Perfect. great characters who are interesting, funny, and have some backstory to them to be epxlored in the future.

Simon/Narim - many people have moaned about this, however to me while they looked the same you could tell it was a different character, by his stance and everything, so i have no problem with this.

All in all, a good start, let's hope it can continue that way!

buuzero
July 20th, 2004, 05:26 PM
I really enjoyed the episode. The new gate is cool, but did it feel small to anyone else? When inside the control room, I think the camera angle needs to be changed, because it doesn't feel like the scale is great as the one on SG-1. Might just take some time to get used to.

Some good action sequences in there though.

Oh yeah, what's up with the guards (the guys with the weird looking things on their faces) are they Wraith too? They seemed easier to take down than the female one.

Newbie
July 20th, 2004, 05:29 PM
I really enjoyed the episode. The new gate is cool, but did it feel small to anyone else? When inside the control room, I think the camera angle needs to be changed, because it doesn't feel like the scale is great as the one on SG-1. Might just take some time to get used to.

Some good action sequences in there though.

Oh yeah, what's up with the guards (the guys with the weird looking things on their faces) are they Wraith too? They seemed easier to take down than the female one.
SG1 gate looks HUGE because the room it's in is SMALL...but ATLATNIS is HUGE...so there is more room...but it doesn't matter, PJ fits thru so that's big enough!

Mio
July 20th, 2004, 05:43 PM
I really enjoyed the episode. The new gate is cool, but did it feel small to anyone else? When inside the control room, I think the camera angle needs to be changed, because it doesn't feel like the scale is great as the one on SG-1. Might just take some time to get used to.

Some good action sequences in there though.

Oh yeah, what's up with the guards (the guys with the weird looking things on their faces) are they Wraith too? They seemed easier to take down than the female one.
The female was able to regenerate better because she was sucking the life out someone.

aAnubiSs
July 20th, 2004, 05:46 PM
The SGC gateroom is also grey and boring, while Atlantis is in pretty colors. That's why one doesn't look so much at the gate, and hence the Atlantis gate looks smaller :D

Anubis
July 22nd, 2004, 07:43 AM
The premier looks exciting, can't wait

Danny-boy
July 27th, 2004, 07:50 AM
But I would love if MS and AT went on to Atlantis after SG1

Yeah, that would be cool. Even though im already having fun with the new characters, i wouldn't want to stop seeing Daniel and Sam every week. :(

Jafana
July 28th, 2004, 12:07 AM
My major Irk in this ep. was that Sam wasn't there.

the top most expert on Gate technology and she's not there to see the team embark through an inter-galactical (sp?) wormhole?

I'm aware that there were apparently legal reasons or whatever for the lack of the characters.. but still.. it seemed wrong.

Otherwise I thought the ep was great, with fantastic potential.

Ugly Pig
July 30th, 2004, 08:54 AM
The absence of Sam (and Teal'c) didn't really bother me. They could be anywhere, possibly on a mission which didn't require Daniel to be there. Maybe assisting another SG team.

greytop
July 30th, 2004, 09:45 AM
They could be on leave(vacation).

greytop
August 17th, 2004, 04:23 PM
The card on the bottle that came through the Stargate from earth looked like that Jack first signed it Colonel then remember to sign it General Jack O'Neill.

Madeleine
August 24th, 2004, 12:24 PM
So far this is the only Atlantis ep I've seen. Not as good as CotG, but I liked it better than the DS9 or TNG openers, and I ended up loving those two shows.

I like McKay (of course!) and the Doctor whose name I've forgotten already. Hope to see more of them. Weir, well, she doesn't quite do for me what she did when she had a different actress, but still good enough. Sheppard and she had some real chemistry there, and I watched them interact thinking that I could see ship-clues. "Oooooh," I thought, very pleased with myself, "I'm in on the ship already. In from the beginning. There'll be no 'WTH?' moments for me in *this* show." Ooops. I was a bit wrong, wasn't I? :S

I haven't seen Ford enough to know how I'll like him. I'm not keen on Teeyla really. But one ep's not really enough for me to say why, so I'll hold off until I've seen more.

The wraith were really really creepy and scary. Right up to the point at which we actually saw them, at which point I couldn't keep a straight face. I'm afraid I thought a bit how Marilyn Manson would look just like a Wraith if he modelled his movement on Drusilla from Buffy.

I thought the big budget was well spent. I liked the look of it, and the sheer number of extras was good. (I always like it when 70 people are acted by 70 people rather than by 12 people standing a few feet apart arms akimbo to make them look bigger.) The city was impressive.

I liked Jack and Daniel in it. They were nicely prominent without overshadowing anyone. And it was good to have them in the scene where the Atlantis crew head off through the wormhole. It made the Goodbye to Earth mean a little more for me.

My biggest gripe is that the plot was a rehash of CotG, with a bit of Stargate the Movie in the mix. The trappings are different enough to mean that that's not a huge gripe though.

Best bit - "Using power, using power".

Mio
August 24th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Phft. It blew CotG out of the water.

Major Fischer
August 24th, 2004, 04:52 PM
Phft. It blew CotG out of the water.

I'm with Mio on this, I hated CotG so much that I didn't watch another episode of Stargate for seven years.

watcher652
September 25th, 2004, 12:08 AM
Wait a minute. Am I remember this episode wrong? Is the end of the episode the scene where McKay says the faster they get out of the ciity, the longer the shield will hold? I thought we got to see the Wraith in the first episode.

Since they aired both parts the first time, I can't remember where they cut it before. I guess that's where they have to cut it since that was an hour, but it seems to me if we had seen a just glimpse of the Wraith in the first episode, that would make for a better two parter.

Mr. Seven
September 25th, 2004, 09:48 AM
They might have had to cut it differently the first time due to commercials. I never watched the first episode on TV before so I don't know.

1 week down, 9 more weeks to go!

DarkQuee1
September 25th, 2004, 11:15 AM
Things that bothered me about some of the background we got in The Rising (if it looks familiar, I posted it on another thread on this forum as well!)

How precisely did they "seed" these planets to get a human form?

Scenario one would be that they started with lifeforms already on those worlds. Problem? That would imply that there was primate stock on all these alien worlds in a totally other galaxy, that was related to our base stock. How likely is that, really? If they started with something other than primate, then they wouldn't get humans at the end.

OTOH (secenario two), if by "seeded" they simply meant that they had started their own colonies on these worlds, then other questions come up: why would they be "defenseless" (I could see their giving evolution a push and then stepping back--the first scenario--but if they were actually Ancient worlds and colonies, then they would have had Ancient tech)? Where are the ruins? Why would they have left any behind when they went back to our galaxy? Why weren't they completely wiped out by the Wraith (who were trying to eliminate the Ancients, a potential threat)?

How did the Wraith "outnumber" the Ancients, when we've seen that they have a total of 60 Hive ships?

And in light of all the weaknesses we've seen with the Wraith--one of our hand-held weapons brings down a ship, we can shoot them, we can starve them and we can walk right onto one of their Hive ships and plant any explosive we want--how come the Ancients couldn't defeat them? Especially as they left our galaxy for Pegasus a few million years ago, but weren't driven out until 10,000 years ago--the Wraith hibernate every 100 years or so, so there was plenty of time in there for the Ancients to take out the hive ships.

Who built the shield on the world where everyone committed suicide at 24 (or whatever age it was)? It used a ZPM for power, but it appears to only have been in operation 500 years, since that is the time that they have been engaging in this behavior, ie, the time the Wraith have been "kept" away. If the shield were older than that, then the custom would be older as well. We don't see any advanced looking ruins to suggest that anyone on that planet had ever reached a stage where they could have done it themselves.

So far, I haven't found the background for the series holding together very well.

watcher652
October 1st, 2004, 08:18 PM
Wait a minute. Am I remembering this episode wrong? Is the end of the episode the scene where McKay says the faster they get out of the ciity, the longer the shield will hold? I thought we got to see the Wraith in the first episode.

Since they aired both parts the first time, I can't remember where they cut it before. I guess that's where they have to cut it since that was an hour, but it seems to me if we had seen a just glimpse of the Wraith in the first episode, that would make for a better two parter.
I knew it! The "last time on Stargate Atlantis" had Sheppard and Teyla in the cave where he found her necklace. And the last scene from the previous episode, Sheppard is saying "What is it?" and Teyla says "The Wraith!". They left out those scenes last week. How can they leave out the scene where Sheppard and Teyla were in the cave and he found her necklace? That's really important later.

Did they stick in more commercials so we had to lose 2 scenes?

walter_MacChevron
October 2nd, 2004, 08:50 PM
anybody think this was better than children of the gods?

Ugly Pig
October 3rd, 2004, 06:35 AM
anybody think this was better than children of the gods?
Yes.

Major Fischer
October 3rd, 2004, 01:16 PM
anybody think this was better than children of the gods?

Like night and day.

kris
October 3rd, 2004, 06:58 PM
anybody think this was better than children of the gods?

No. I saw CoTG the other day in reruns and if I had to judge by the scene where Daniel sees Share and he tries to go to her, and Skaara is dragged out, and the growing music and Teal'c helping Jack and all the intensity going around-- Rising doesn't beat it. I think because the team in CoTG already had a history, they had the advantage. Rising does all right, with part one better than the second (although overly dramatic in the scene where Weir gives her speech--world's best and brightest or just the ones that were available?), but it doesn't match up. The Wraith, although scary, are too horror film. That fits the scifi channel preference at least, since they've always dumped horror and fantasy on to my preferred science fiction plate (some fantasy is good--LoTR--but it's not scifi).

I think the SGA episodes that followed, Hide and Seek and 38 Minutes, were much stronger and didn't involve the universal language (except for Teyla. Would've been interesting if she spoke Latin or a variation).

Major Fischer
October 3rd, 2004, 07:02 PM
I think the SGA episodes that followed, Hide and Seek and 38 Minutes, were much stronger and didn't involve the universal language (except for Teyla. Would've been interesting if she spoke Latin or a variation).

If you have that much of an issue with universal language no television show is going to satisfy you. As has been often repeated in many many places, it's a 40 minute television show, how much of it do you want to spend learning how to say hello to the aliens of the week?

kris
October 4th, 2004, 08:48 AM
If you have that much of an issue with universal language no television show is going to satisfy you. As has been often repeated in many many places, it's a 40 minute television show, how much of it do you want to spend learning how to say hello to the aliens of the week?


Yeah, you're right, in a way. There is scifi that is earth-based or set in a separate universe where earth and English aren't a concern. However, I know better than to dispute something that's not changed since scifi began. I'll go do something else until January. I just felt like complaining again in addition to saying I liked CoTG. I watch SGA because it has great special effects, great music (opening theme: gorgeous),and David Hewlett as Mckay. I should be used to the universal language thing by now after many shows that take that poetic license as a rule.

They can't do it, never will. I do think there are ways around it without the translation lessons but you have to start things already in the middle of things, and that doesn't always fit the structure and could become its own predictable storytelling tool. It's just too much work.

aschen
October 11th, 2004, 07:47 AM
Daniel got ripped off bad. :/ The one man who finds Atlantis for mankind...and he gets gipped and forced to stay on Earth.

TheWarrior
October 12th, 2004, 02:59 AM
Remember UK viewers - Rising Part I airs on Sky One at 9:00pm after SG-1.

I've seen this already but can't wait to see it on the big screen. :)

Crazedwraith
October 12th, 2004, 01:22 PM
I like, I like alot. A little slow and forced in places but good no the less.

I liked the Beckett/McKay stuff the Sheppard/O'Neill Stuff and even the T-1000(...um...Colonel Sumner was it??)/Sheppard.

sueKay
October 12th, 2004, 01:37 PM
I waited months to see this, rather that squinty vision.

I LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

McKay/ Beckett - and the Scots and and the Canadians normally get along so well!:p :D Great dynamic!

Sheppard - THUNK!!!

Weir - Great commander

Ford - Beckett had more screen time. Hope we see a bit more of him!

Teyla - a bit odd, but she is from another Galaxy

Overall

Loving Sheppard, Weir and Beckett!!!!!

Yet to decide on McKay, Teyla and Ford!

8 out of 9 Chevrons.

Matt G
October 12th, 2004, 01:38 PM
Looks like I'm NOT the first Brit to post on the main thread!;)

OK...

1. The Gate sequence still looks warped!

2. On the other hand, the themetune to Atlantis is better the it's SG1 counterpart.

3. Robert Patrick was OK but he came accross as if he belonged more in Space:Above and Beyond than anything.

4. Beckett might have to get over his nerves soonish.

5. McKay, I'm reserving judgement on for the time being.

6. Sheppard might be Jack O'Neill Jnr but I'm not bothered.

Overall - good start - I'm sure the champagne bottle will be appreciated!;)

shelsfc
October 12th, 2004, 01:41 PM
I haven't read the rest of this thread so I apologise if I'm repeating exactly what other people have already said!!

First impression - Excellent!!

The opening sequence is great - I'm guessing that's going to change after next week though, right?

I really enjoyed the Jack & Daniel stuff, but I'm not going to say any more than that, cos it's not about them...

Already love Sheppard, and of course McKay! I was kinda hoping McKay would say something about Sam...were they even not allowed to mention the names of characters made specifically for SG1?

Loved his "Chevron one encoded..." lol!

Weir is very good commanding the operation... bit of a spoiler for part 2 I'd like to see
a lot more friction between her & Sumner, but ya know...

Ford teasing Sheppard about going through the gate, that was funny.

Have to say, the Atlantis gate is very cool. :D

Sheppard "I'm sure you'll warm up to me once you get to know me"....that sounds vaguely familiar!! ;)
Nice little chat he had with those kids - galaxy far far away, lol!

Nice to see that some things never change - the planets in the Pegasus galaxy look a bit like British Columbia too!! :p

Can't help noticing the Teyla/Sheppard ship already!!


I think I'll have to watch it again before I know exactly what I think of it...

Looking forward to part 2!!

Crazedwraith
October 12th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Two question: Theme tune and titles? I didn't catch theese. There just seemd to be peoples names at the bottom making no distinction between regulars and guests.

I'm quessing this I'll change next week?

Alos liked Siler (if they can show Siler why not Sam?) And the MacKay's "Chevron One" and the "using power,using poer using POWER! with the force iris.

Crazedwraith
October 12th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Looks like I'm the first Brit to post on the main thread!

6. Sheppard might be Jack O'Neill Jnr but I'm not bothered.

Overall - good start - I'm sure the champagne bottle will be appreciated!;)
Um look two post aboves yours....First Brit Comment Right here. ;):P

Personally I get a complete different sense of O'Neill/Sheppard. Although their history on the surface seems similar. Jack's Sarky. John's got a different style of humor more warm and fuzzy IMHO.

greytop
October 12th, 2004, 01:53 PM
Alos liked Siler (if they can show Siler why not Sam?) And the MacKay's "Chevron One" and the "using power,using poer using POWER! with the force iris.
Maybe it is the difference between major and minor characters. That has been discussed either in this thread or another thread (don't remember which, age does that to ya).

Liv
October 12th, 2004, 02:04 PM
Personally I get a complete different sense of O'Neill/Sheppard. Although their history on the surface seems similar. Jack's Sarky. John's got a different style of humor more warm and fuzzy IMHO.
Yes, I'll second this - to the point where I just can't second it more than I already do. :p

But seriously, I never really understood the "Sheppard's just an O'Neill Clone", because to me his sense of humour is very different to Jack's (actually, I like your description there Crazedwraith, "warm and fuzzy", heh) and Flanigan's put a whole other spin on Sheppard than RDA has on O'Neill. To me, they're two very different characters - both important in their own right - but not that similar in any other way than their military background.

watcher652
October 12th, 2004, 03:34 PM
I have a question for the Brits. What was the last scene you saw? I think there was a different break when we saw the two Rising episodes back to back than when they were shown individually. But I'm the only one who has brought it up, or even cares (such a minor point in the grand scheme of things), so I think I may be wrong. Thanks.

Anubis
October 12th, 2004, 11:07 PM
McKay - Poor McKay. He hasn't got the Ancient gene, and he seemed very jealous. Well, he seems to be doing his fair share of the work.

Beckett - Hehe. I loved it how he set of the glowing jellyfi of doom! :D And when in Atlantis, he though he caused the power surge! LOL That was great.

Sheppard - I think Sheppard is really great. I expected him to know about the Stargate and such but he didn't. I think his humour will be the 'Jack O'Neill of Atlantis'. ;)

Weir - She's really good. Great team leader. I think she has the potential to actually lead teams offworld and command the base.

Ford - Didn't see much of him this episode, just mainly standing around the Stargate. So not much from him.

Teyla - The ways of their planet are quite weird. The quick and certain attraction to Sheppard I think is a nice touch. Not too bad.



Overall, the episode was good. Next week I think we'll see the Wraith :) and finally get to see how bad they really are.

Crazedwraith
October 13th, 2004, 06:37 AM
I have a question for the Brits. What was the last scene you saw? I think there was a different break when we saw the two Rising episodes back to back than when they were shown individually. But I'm the only one who has brought it up, or even cares (such a minor point in the grand scheme of things), so I think I may be wrong. Thanks.
When Teyla and Shep were walking bacl towards the village uts after the dartships come through the gate and shes says "The Wraith!!!!"

Angstnromance
October 13th, 2004, 07:27 AM
Anyone else notice that the actor playing Dr. Weir's significant other was Garwin Sanford (Nareem)?! Cool!

Pat :D

I knew I'd seen him somewhere before!!! Thanks for clearing that up

Elite Anubis Guard
October 13th, 2004, 09:25 AM
yeah i noticed that aswell and summers is the t1000 and doggart right?


i enjoyed it, really one of those exploration eps..,.....bit of a ***** they ****ed up the city....and i cant wait to see part 2!

watcher652
October 13th, 2004, 05:05 PM
I have a question for the Brits. What was the last scene you saw? I think there was a different break when we saw the two Rising episodes back to back than when they were shown individually. But I'm the only one who has brought it up, or even cares (such a minor point in the grand scheme of things), so I think I may be wrong. Thanks.

When Teyla and Shep were walking bacl towards the village uts after the dartships come through the gate and shes says "The Wraith!!!!"
Thanks. When they broke up the 2 hour version into one hour episodes here in the States, they ended the first part after McKay tells Weir the faster they get out of the ciity, the longer the shield will hold. That didn't make any sense to me. I thought we got to see the Wraith in the first episode.

I'm glad you saw it the way it was supposed to be shown.

CultTVGirl
October 14th, 2004, 01:07 AM
I'm glad you saw it the way it was supposed to be shown.

Yeah, but it still ended far too early. Never have I hated the words "to be continued" quite so much! I want to see what happens next! :(

Loved the first episode. They crammed a load of stuff in there. In fact, I'm going to watch it all over again just to check I didn't miss anything...

I already knew I'd love McKay. But I didn't know how much I'd love Dr Beckett and Major Sheppard - they were both great. Especially loved the McKay/Beckett dynamic. Still, McKay is definitely my favourite character. How can anyone not love him?

Oh, and Torri Higginson was great too. I really like this new Dr Weir. And I wouldn't mind her job - being in charge of all those guys! ;)

Can't wait for part two!

Elite Anubis Guard
October 14th, 2004, 09:26 AM
think im gonna go watch it again in fact.

Dodger
October 14th, 2004, 09:40 AM
I liked the first episode of Atlantis but really got the feeling that the two parter was designed to be shown as a movie length episode. Still very enjoyable and I’m looking forward to seeing episode two :)


Dodger

Elite Anubis Guard
October 14th, 2004, 09:51 AM
yeh it was annoyin especially as they where just about to introduce the wriath!

Major Clanger
October 14th, 2004, 10:12 AM
Loved it. As usual I have a couple of nitpicky things, but not bad enough to mention.

Except for one.

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what it is?

Think helicopter. Think snow. Think miles and miles from anywhere. Think freezing cold. Really really cold. As cold as you can possibly imagine - then try to imagine something colder. Now think of a well trained military guy. In all that snow and cold.

And then please tell me why he jumps out of a helicopter... in the cold cold snow miles from anywhere...

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WITHOUT WEARING A FLAMIN' HAT!!!

Sorry. But I feel a lot better now.

Bagpuss
October 14th, 2004, 10:15 AM
I've been expecting that reaction,MC.....I noticed it too !!! :D

Ahem.....on topic : I loved the opener !

I can't really fault much either,as yet,I'm afraid . :cool:

Major Fischer
October 14th, 2004, 11:12 AM
WITHOUT WEARING A FLAMIN' HAT!!!

Sorry. But I feel a lot better now.

Why did I know that was coming? Truth was I sort of wondered why no one at the entire antartic outpost had hats on, but had to wear really warm clothing otherwise.

watcher652
October 14th, 2004, 11:54 AM
Think helicopter. Think snow. Think miles and miles from anywhere. Think freezing cold. Really really cold. As cold as you can possibly imagine - then try to imagine something colder. Now think of a well trained military guy. In all that snow and cold.

And then please tell me why he jumps out of a helicopter... in the cold cold snow miles from anywhere...

WITHOUT WEARING A FLAMIN' HAT!!!
I think his cap was in his back pocket, however since he was jumping out of the helicopter in a bit of a hurry, he didn't have time to reach back and put it on.

Major Clanger
October 14th, 2004, 11:55 AM
Well, it really really really really bugs me.

Frozen wasn't so bad. I won't mention The Hatless Ep That Must Not Be Named (I think you all know which one it is) but this really sent me almost into orbit.

Mr.MC - sensing that Jack was about to bail out - tried to help the Colonel out by shouting at him to get a hat on before I popped an artery, but ...

I often wonder if anyone on the writing/production team (given where it's filmed I can't believe this) has actually been outside when it's colder than freezing point.

Mind you, at least worrying about the hat thing stopped me getting really really wound up about the Scottish patch and Beckett's Scottish accent.

But having ranted about all that: I feel that I'm really going to like Atlantis. So that's good.

watcher652
October 14th, 2004, 02:55 PM
Well, it really really really really bugs me.

Frozen wasn't so bad. I won't mention The Hatless Ep That Must Not Be Named (I think you all know which one it is) but this really sent me almost into orbit.
Some of us are mainly Atlantis fans :eek: so, no, I don't know which episode you are referencing.

I haven't been to Antarctica, but I have been to Alaska and I've stood on a glacier. A very large glacier. I didn't have a hat on (I did have it with me) and I wasn't cold. The reflected sun was actually warm. Of course, I wasn't in the interior of Antarctica, where you would be surrounded by more cold than I was. I'm not up on my SG1 lore but I guess the base must be deep in the interior, right? Not at the coastal regions or the peninsula. I see that the interior can get as warm as -30°C (-22°F) during the summer.

Bagpuss
October 14th, 2004, 11:14 PM
The ep MC is referencing is "Solitudes" (SG-1 Series 1). :)
More later about all that to explain. (RL School run beckons.... :( )

Edit : Never mind...it's being discussed enough in various threads already. :)

Madeleine
October 14th, 2004, 11:21 PM
...he jumps out of a helicopter... in the cold cold snow miles from anywhere...

WITHOUT WEARING A FLAMIN' HAT!!!

I have it on good authority* that he did it just to annoy you :p

(* - as ever, this means 'I just made it up')

Crazedwraith
October 16th, 2004, 03:31 AM
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WITHOUT WEARING A FLAMIN' HAT!!!

Sorry. But I feel a lot better now.

Think Helicopter. Think drone. Think of the most dangerous thing you can iamgine, then remind yourself the drone is more dangerous. Think your only seconds away from being blone into itty bitty pieces think of a man who is survivor, tell me which is it more sensible to do?

Stay in the helocipter which is about to be BLOWN UP and muck around looking for a HAT or RUN AWAY BEFORE YOU GET BLOWN UP?

Major Fischer
October 16th, 2004, 10:46 AM
Stay in the helocipter which is about to be BLOWN UP and muck around looking for a HAT or RUN AWAY BEFORE YOU GET BLOWN UP?

It's not like they get all that far from the helicopter anyway. After all, O'Neill actually almost catches the drone in his hand. If it had hit they would have died, even if they were a few feet from the chopper.

MC's point, I think, is that they should have had hats on to start with. Next time you see a science program with people at antartica, you'll notice they have a tendency to wear a LOT more clothing of all kinds than either O'Neill or Sheppard was wearing.

Major Clanger
October 17th, 2004, 05:23 AM
Yes, that's a large part of my point. I have just watched that scene again (oh, the hardship) and Jack is actually wearing a knitted jobby when in the helicopter, and rips it off before jumping out (presumably as he rips off the headset.

Which doesn't quite redeem him in my book, but.... People flying around down there should be ready for anything, which includes bailing out with enough equipment to stay live for more than 6 minutes or so.

*breathes into paper bag*

It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't do it every freakin' time

*paper bag bursts*

I'm going for a lie down!

CultTVGirl
October 17th, 2004, 07:11 AM
Next time you see a science program with people at antartica, you'll notice they have a tendency to wear a LOT more clothing of all kinds than either O'Neill or Sheppard was wearing.

But do we really want Sheppard wearing more clothes? Less is good, I think. ;)

Just rewatched this episode, so have some more thoughts on it. I liked Teyla more second time around - she could turn out to be quite an interesting character. Will be interesting to see how the Sheppard/Teyla dynamic is developed.

Actually, I think the character interactions for Atlantis look very promising. There's potential for all the characters to have very different relationships with each other - they're quite a diverse group. It's a shame Robert Patrick is only on board as a guest star though, as he's a great actor and his character would have worked well alongside Sheppard.

McKay/Beckett was definitely my favourite pairing of the episode though. Those guys are great together! :D

DownFallAngel
October 17th, 2004, 07:16 AM
Just wait until you see some McKay/Zelenka action in the upcoming episodes.

Excelsior
October 17th, 2004, 01:06 PM
Apologies if this has been raised somewhere else, but having just seen the first episode of Atlantis for the second time on Sky One (Mix) I am now convinced I'm not mad and did actually see something which I can't seem to find any comment on. Just a little thing, mind you. I've sort of double posted this as I only saw this part of the forum after querying this elsewhere, but I imagine a moderator will kindly sort it out if it's too out of place there.

OK, so Colonel O'Neill is dethawed by the time Atlantis starts. But is he also not Brigadier General O'Neill at this point? Dr Weir is still around at this point so this must be pre-Atlantis.

So, why is it that the bottle of champagne which is the last article to come through the Atlantis Stargate is signed by one Colonel O'Neill, and not by (at least) a General O'Neill? I've seen comments here about the handwriting on the note, but not about its actual content.

Hey, I know, it's a nitpick and then some but there doesn't seem to have been any mention of it?

morjana
October 17th, 2004, 01:28 PM
So, why is it that the bottle of champagne which is the last article to come through the Atlantis Stargate is signed by one Colonel O'Neill, and not by (at least) a General O'Neill? I've seen comments here about the handwriting on the note, but not about its actual content.

Hey, I know, it's a nitpick and then some but there doesn't seem to have been any mention of it?

It does say General Jack O'Neill

Here's a link to a screencap:

http://www.stargateatlantis.jackfic.com/caps/risingpt1/pages/atlantis_rising251.htm


Morjana

Excelsior
October 17th, 2004, 02:09 PM
It does say General Jack O'Neill

Here's a link to a screencap:

http://www.stargateatlantis.jackfic.com/caps/risingpt1/pages/atlantis_rising251.htm


Morjana

Ah, right. Despite being close up to the screen I was obviously mistaking the G for a C and reading the first e as an l. It's interesting how the mind does that sometimes - it's the same number of letters in both, and apparently you don't actually read all of a word to get its meaning. So thinking the G was a C and it being the same sort of length word must have resulted in my getting my wires crossed. So rather than having a go at the continuity guys, they obviously deserve a pat on the back as that could easily have been overlooked.

Major Clanger
November 6th, 2004, 06:01 AM
I've just watched the Stargate S4 ep The Light and had to have an Atlantis related laugh.

When Jack meets the young boy who has been hiding in the Goa'uld pleasure palace the boy introduces himself.

Boy: Loren
Jack: I don't know what that means
Boy: It's my name

Oh man!! They're either recycling scripts, or... and this is my preference given the homages to other sci-fi shows, giving a nod to Stargate.

greytop
November 11th, 2004, 10:03 AM
I just finishing rewatching my tape of Rising. I just notice that when Jack was in the outpost and he and Weir walked past the statis pod, Jack looked at it kind odd.

WraithWarrior
November 15th, 2004, 06:21 AM
Good and Jack and Sheppard are so cocky. They are what makes the episodes funny. Rodney is also funny how he is gettingstressed because he doesnt have the Ancient genes.

SeaBee
November 26th, 2004, 03:25 PM
Ah, at last!
This was a most excellent first episode.

Loved the cast, the Jack/Daniel interaction as the Atlantis team was preparing to leave, the whole look of the show.

Hated that Sky only gave me 30 seconds to unwrap a new video tape! no ad break! That shrink wrap is hard work.

Kirara
March 1st, 2005, 03:36 PM
I have seen Risinig last week. I think I liked it: Loved Jack, loved Daniel, liked the new people and the special effects. Don^t liked the Wraith (to much over the top for me} and the Ancient technology (to much and to futuristic gives the show almost a Star Trek feeling). I will watch it and hope that the show stays as enjoyable as it^s now. And that all the changes which are planned don^t hurt the show to much (I hope that the Pegasus galaxy is too far away for visits from Farscape actors or King Arthur...)

Qtyled
March 27th, 2005, 07:01 AM
I was just reading the previous page and I think ... whats all this talk about HATS!

Anyways this episode was good. I agree with ^ and hope they don't do too much Star Trekky stuff.

The Ultimate Obsession
April 8th, 2005, 06:07 PM
Just watched SciFi's rerun of this. I never caught it the first time around and I definetly am into this show.

keppiezbt
April 8th, 2005, 06:38 PM
anyone notice how they cut out some of the scenes in the beginning? I thought it was funny since they were trying to fit it into the hour this time....

watcher652
April 12th, 2005, 04:16 PM
anyone notice how they cut out some of the scenes in the beginning? I thought it was funny since they were trying to fit it into the hour this time....It was quite irritating. They took out some of the initial character development for Sheppard. And they deleted that lovely goodbye scene. Those of you who only saw this version missed some nice touches that get echoed in later episodes.

They're really making you to have to buy the dvds, aren't they?

aaobuttons
April 16th, 2005, 07:52 PM
It was quite irritating. They took out some of the initial character development for Sheppard. And they deleted that lovely goodbye scene. Those of you who only saw this version missed some nice touches that get echoed in later episodes.

They're really making you to have to buy the dvds, aren't they?


Not only Sheppard, but Weir w/ Simon and Rodney w/ his cat and the neighbor girl. Both play into Home and will confuse people who haven't seen the original version. Also a little Ford/Sheppard scene before they go into the stargate which just looks weird w/ the new cut.

sprqy
May 15th, 2005, 10:38 AM
LOVE ATLANTIS! It just started yesterday in ISRAEL and i just loved the Pilot!

Just one q - How Daniel found out the Gate address for Atlantis?

Stricken
June 1st, 2005, 02:39 AM
Loved it great start to a new show

question - there was another cut??

SGalisa
June 1st, 2005, 07:19 PM
That depends on what version you saw. The original, first viewing 2-parter on TV had everything in it. When the eps got separated during the repeat viewing cycles, the Sci-Fi channel chopped out a bunch of things and it seemed like they added more commercials somehow. :(

Some storyline details were important to some of us who saw the original broadcast. But to people who haven't seen it, what got cut out - might not be noticed. Just forgotten- out of sight = out of mind.

Hoping the DVD has the FULL version.

StarDreamer
June 1st, 2005, 08:48 PM
I didn't realize all those cuts! I'm feeling a bit of a sense of betrayal.. lol. But, seriously hope the Rising DVD (out next week! -in the US anyway- yayy!!) has the full version..

Unamed
June 3rd, 2005, 08:14 AM
Weilr: Rodney your're embarresing me..
Rodney: Ive never been more excited in my entire life!

That was the best line of the whole series!!!!!! so funny :)

Mio
June 18th, 2005, 01:50 PM
One thing about this episode always irked me.

They apparently removed the rings from the outpost. I mean, the they put the elevator down had to be the same one they used for the matter stream, and I looked again, but the rings were quite absent from the floor.

Why were they using an elevator at all? It cant be that difficult to get rings, I mean, we've got Seth's old place (at LEAST 2 sets), we've seen them in at least one Egyptian temple, Offworld we've studied a few.....We should have been able to pick one up anywhere.

GatetheWay
June 18th, 2005, 06:58 PM
The outpost never had rings. Rings can work two ways; either they transport to another set down on the ground or they can transport straight bellow the ship. That's what they did in lost city they where transported right under the ship.

Mio
June 25th, 2005, 09:04 PM
The outpost never had rings. Rings can work two ways; either they transport to another set down on the ground or they can transport straight bellow the ship. That's what they did in lost city they where transported right under the ship.

Incorrect.

(I've been on vacation up until yesterday, or I would have replied earlier)

Here you can clearly see the ring platform open during transport, and in the second shot, the ring platform in its idle state.

SGalisa
October 1st, 2005, 08:49 PM
Now that SGA is *finally* airing on syndication channels, I watched "Rising" to see which version got shown. Edited (cut scenes) one. Guess TPTB don't trust some viewers. (Well, if no one buys SGA's season one for me for Christmas, I got my own gift money saved to get it myself! First generation DVD's are much clearer and crispier - quality wise than any VCR. And videos break too easily, so, the better choice is a DVD.)

Anyways...
after all this time, tonight's the first time that I just noticed in the background behind Ayiana (the ancient found in SG1's "Frozen" episode) ~ the magic chair of the ancients ~ in the very first scene of "Rising".

I've seen the ep probably more than 10 times, and never noticed that before. ...probably was too preoccupied and focused on pleasantly being surprised to seeing Ayiana and Apophis' host, and the strained communication between them. Plus, I *really* liked their (costumes) outfits, as well as the snowflake designs in the room/city... :)

Easter Lily
November 20th, 2005, 02:27 PM
I've finally had a moment to watch my shiny new Atlantis DVDs... yay! Aren't those subtitles a handy thing? :D I must've seen this episode over half a dozen times and I still miss bits of dialogue. The plan is to go through the whole lot episode by episode and do reviews for each of them

I liked Atlantis right from the beginning. That sense of energy and foreboding was evident. I also liked the feeling of community while still holding on to the trademark Stargate humour.
Is "Rising" a double entendre... for both the city and for its reluctant lead male? The city rises from its watery refuge on the one hand, while Sheppard, the most reluctant member of the expedition sheds aside his lack of enthusiasm and rises to the occasion. He's attitude is very telling... reluctant, apprehensive, nervous... ostracized by the military, hence somewhat resentful. But the man of action is never far away and kicks into gear once all hell breaks lose.

What really struck me watching it this time round after having caught up on Seasons 7 and 8, is how much Jack and Daniel have really changed and yet in the early scenes in Atlantis there are moments of the old Jack and Daniel coming into play. The earnest archaeologist, the snarky and yet resourceful Jack reminding us of what was and bidding us, as it were, good bye...

The early Teyla was interesting... much more in her element among her people and being Athosian... The later Teyla, on the other hand, has adjusted too quickly to earth culture and has become less striking. Her character distinctiveness has been diluted since then and replaced by a half-hearted physical distinctiveness.

The Wraith are an ugly mob to say the least... Lacking the elegance of the Goa'uld but no less cheesy... :p But to me the villains aren't as important as the heroes.

All in all, a good strong start to the spin off...

andrelage
December 19th, 2005, 07:38 AM
what a pilot to atlantis. great start to the spin off series of sg1

Erised
January 8th, 2006, 12:43 PM
Oh my gosh! I just watched the Rising Commentary with Joe Flanigan and Martin Wood. They said that the Rising starts with these two ancients. A man and a woman. Man leaves and a woman stays behind. Anyway, they said that the woman was the same as in SG-1's Frozen! I never realized that :S

GateByte
January 22nd, 2006, 05:25 PM
Tonight the Rising Part I aired for the first time in Canada on non-premium channels, aka 'Space'. Not being able to procure my Atlantis DVD's yet, I was really looking forward to watching the pilot again, and now I feel a bit gipped. Ok, so I know that the Rising is a fairly long episode, but did they really need to cut so much of part one out? I mean, they cut out half the scenes in the SGC before the team went out to Atlantis. No Simon, no Beckett with his mom. I thought those scenes added a bit more humanity to the characters. I understand that the episode needs to fit nicely into its 42 minutes, but having seen the episode before in its entirety I don't really think it's fair to those who have never seen it. Anyone new to Atlantis might get just a wee bit confused in Home and Intruder, basically because of the lack of Simon. Until I'm able to get my DVD's, I'm going to keep watching, and praying that no more episodes suffer the same fate.

Anyways, that's just how I feel. Please feel free to comment.

Cynicat
January 23rd, 2006, 02:06 AM
Just watching the commentary again and noticed something cool - about 15mins into the episode, Joe and Martin are discussing Sheppard's past (re: Afganistan) and Martin makes a gag about him being in Vietnam, to which Joe makes a reference to "Holiday in Cambodia". Now, we know Sheppard is a Johnny Cash fan... but is Joe a Dead Kennedys fan? LOL :D

StarDreamer
January 23rd, 2006, 11:56 AM
Tonight the Rising Part I aired for the first time in Canada on non-premium channels, aka 'Space'. Not being able to procure my Atlantis DVD's yet, I was really looking forward to watching the pilot again, and now I feel a bit gipped. Ok, so I know that the Rising is a fairly long episode, but did they really need to cut so much of part one out? I mean, they cut out half the scenes in the SGC before the team went out to Atlantis. No Simon, no Beckett with his mom. I thought those scenes added a bit more humanity to the characters. I understand that the episode needs to fit nicely into its 42 minutes, but having seen the episode before in its entirety I don't really think it's fair to those who have never seen it. Anyone new to Atlantis might get just a wee bit confused in Home and Intruder, basically because of the lack of Simon. Until I'm able to get my DVD's, I'm going to keep watching, and praying that no more episodes suffer the same fate.

Anyways, that's just how I feel. Please feel free to comment.

Yea, things like that are just always such a disappointment. I don't live in Canada, but I feel your pain! ..just wanted to sympathize I guess, since you made completely valid points and Rising is my fave ep of SGA :)

captain jake
April 8th, 2006, 02:07 PM
This episode is great they did such a good job with linking the 2 series.

:jack: MEET:sheppard:

harsiesis child
May 26th, 2006, 11:29 AM
I really liked the first part, even more than the second, more conventional... the discovering of the city is quite marvelous :)
the discovering things are going bad :S though they were expecting something great! really liked the basic idea
And at the end: the enormous moment: the city is rising of the see! :eek:

very good pilot

Steven_the_Atlantean
July 9th, 2006, 10:36 PM
I love this episode; how we saw clips of the main characters background (family, friends). Representing the Ancients in the hologram, how they turned that into a long story, short just getting straight to the point. The theme in the background is awesome it creates an amazing feeling. The fact where in another galaxy, tells us god knows what at the other side of the gate so its so mysterious.

Orovingwen
September 26th, 2006, 03:17 PM
As I first saw the episodes I was sceptic about the new show. I liked beeing Daniel and O'Neill in it but the story wasn't really innovative but for people who doesn't know the Stargate it was good as an indroduction in that universe and actually a good introductionto the new show itself. I instantly loved the design.

I guess it's that I saw first the dubbed version so that really isn't that good to teh show.. I mena such things like "ZedPM" "what?" "ZPM, he's canadian" they translate to "ZBM" "What?" "ZPM, he lisp sometimes"... yeah.. right...
anyway the set was so cool and I likd how Daniel reactedt, it wasn't "just to have them there" it was really believeable how Jack and Daniel acted there. So the "farewell" and introuctionn was very good. Only that when you know all teh stuf about ancients and such it's like "yeah..tell me something new" but that's not the fault of the episode. it has to to be for new audiences as well.

I didn't liek teh introduction to Shep, oh yeah let's take a troublemaker with us... oh and he flirts with the first female person he mets... James T Sheppard... But i guess they couldn't cast JF and NOT make him very charming and succsessful with women... :p

teal'c2006
March 12th, 2007, 11:15 AM
This episode was funny and I loved this episode very much and it was well written. Is one of my many favorite episodes from season one.

Integrabyte
April 3rd, 2007, 01:04 PM
Anyone notice as soon as Sheppard arrives in Atlantis the city comes to life? I did not notice this at first but everywhere he went Atlantis recognised his gene. Funny and smart at the same time, innit? :D

garhkal
April 3rd, 2007, 10:31 PM
yup. Several of those consoles seemed to pop to life the minute he touched/rushed by them.

drusila87
June 6th, 2007, 01:49 PM
http://www.gateworld.net/atlantis/s1/images/101_15.jpg.shtml

WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS SCENe???

I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IT!!

PROBABLY THEY THINK: BETTER WITH SHEPPARD!!

PG15
June 6th, 2007, 01:53 PM
The link is not that of an image.

http://www.gateworld.net/atlantis/s1/images/101_15.jpg.shtml

Oh yeah, this one. :D It's an outtake where Martin Wood told them to kiss each other...for fun.

drusila87
June 6th, 2007, 01:57 PM
I don´t know why can´t I put the photo.
I am referring to the photo that show a kiss between Weir and Sapner.
You can found it in here, in gate world.

PG15
June 6th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Yeah...I linked to it right there in my post.

You can't put in the photo because it's not a photo, but a regular webpage with a photo being its main feature; the URL ends in .shtml, not .jpg or .gif or any other image extensions.

drusila87
June 6th, 2007, 02:27 PM
Yeah...I linked to it right there in my post.

You can't put in the photo because it's not a photo, but a regular webpage with a photo being its main feature; the URL ends in .shtml, not .jpg or .gif or any other image extensions.

Thanks for the information!:);)
In the s.2 there is also an other photo between Rodny and Cadman.......

mmu_man
June 6th, 2007, 04:20 PM
You can't put in the photo because it's not a photo, but a regular webpage with a photo being its main feature; the URL ends in .shtml, not .jpg or .gif or any other image extensions.

Because the img tag must refer to the image itself... not the page that shows it.
Right click the picture on the page, "Copy Image Address" and use that one, like:
http://www.gateworld.net/atlantis/graphics/101_15.jpg
(it just happens to have the same name as the .html page that shows it without the html extention, but that's merely a coincidence.)

mmu_man
June 6th, 2007, 04:31 PM
Indeed this scene isn't to be seen :)
It'd be supposedly after they come to Atlantis, (we see the atlantis gate behind), and before she puts her backpack down. Maybe it was intended to be there but later replaced by the champ bottle scene from Jack.

PG15
June 6th, 2007, 05:14 PM
No...I'm pretty sure it was never intended to air. :p

Trek_Girl42
June 6th, 2007, 10:14 PM
What the frak??? Never saw that pic before, that's funny. :P


Her blurry fist looks like it's going to come up and punch him.

garhkal
June 7th, 2007, 04:57 PM
What the frak??? Never saw that pic before, that's funny. :P


Her blurry fist looks like it's going to come up and punch him.

Yea it does kind of look photoshopped.

PG15
June 7th, 2007, 05:16 PM
No, it's real. One of the Atlantis DVD specials shows it.

Trek_Girl42
June 14th, 2007, 01:53 PM
No, it's real. One of the Atlantis DVD specials shows it.
Really? Which special? I'm not sure I've seen all of the season one bonus features.....

PG15
June 14th, 2007, 01:58 PM
I think it was the Focus On (or whatever): Rainbow Sun Francks feature, where Rainbow was talking about going on set and being surprised by that kiss.

Trek_Girl42
June 14th, 2007, 02:31 PM
I think it was the Focus On (or whatever): Rainbow Sun Francks feature, where Rainbow was talking about going on set and being surprised by that kiss.
Ooh, will definitely check that out. :)

General David Niemi
July 24th, 2007, 11:19 AM
When I saw this ep... oh... I saw it in a movie not a two part. It was so surprising. The title just stuck out. Anyway this episode is great. Funny, sad, happy and a new discovery. So as Major Shepperd and General O'neill said in the Helicopter.

:sheppard::Well that was new.
:jack::Yeah for me, not so much. :D

parisindy
August 22nd, 2007, 08:41 PM
i saw it as a movie too

i just wanted to pop in here... just gave it a rewatch

i got to say i love love the first shows of atlantis...

i have watched it over and over again

i got it before i bought the season 1 discs and it wasn't playing here

so i probably watched this episode more then any other

Joe is fantastic in it and beckett nearly blasting him out of the sky ...

still some of my fav moments

Captain Chaap
August 23rd, 2007, 12:18 PM
Beckett and McKay were great in Rising. Probably one of my favourite episodes, out of SG-1 and Atlantis put together!

:beckett: "It Could Be Lunch Related"

parisindy
August 28th, 2007, 03:47 PM
Beckett and McKay were great in Rising. Probably one of my favourite episodes, out of SG-1 and Atlantis put together!

:beckett: "It Could Be Lunch Related"

ehehehehhe i adore that!

and the 'how much more out there can we get'

Chrisisall
February 10th, 2008, 02:14 PM
Total newbie here, just popping in to say hi. I just got season one, and I'm on the fifth episode. It's cool.


Late to the party Chrisisall

GATEGOD
February 28th, 2008, 03:40 PM
I'm watching this right now, I remember why I love this show so freaking much every time I do. I love how it introduces us to everything. Shepperd being clueless in the beginning is hilarious, this entire episode rocked. In my opinion! I also loved how Ford swooped in and Saved Shepperd ass!

Chrisisall
February 29th, 2008, 12:28 PM
I'm watching this right now, I remember why I love this show so freaking much every time I do.
I've watched it twice since i got it last month.

Agreeing Chrisisall:)

from_orion
March 17th, 2008, 11:42 PM
While carousing ebay for autographed stargate pictures and other merchandise, I saw someone selling an autographed script of "The Rising" with 10 signatures and an MGM COA. Joe Flanigan, David Hewlett, Torri Higginson and more!
Too bad I have a pretty crummy job or I would have bought it, but I wanted to tell you all about it so a real fan ends up with it not someone that just wants to put it in a safe for future profit or something sad like that.
I made a snipurl of the link so the entire ebay link wouldn't be displayed here. If you happen to be a technology enthusiast like me that may not trust unkown links, you can search ebay for "stargate atlantis pilot script"
snipurl.com/2205b

Good luck and I know we all hope someone worthy ends up with this :)

Tobin Dax
July 19th, 2008, 07:30 AM
Rising is the best episode ever.
I have the soundtrack for Stargate Atlantis, and 'Rising' is the best track on it. Joel Goldsmith is a genius with music.

This was such a great way to introduce the series, it had special significance for SG-1 fans and it's perfectally understandable for complete newcomers to the show.

A Wraith Named Bob
July 19th, 2008, 08:53 PM
Rising is the best episode ever.
I have the soundtrack for Stargate Atlantis, and 'Rising' is the best track on it. Joel Goldsmith is a genius with music.

This was such a great way to introduce the series, it had special significance for SG-1 fans and it's perfectally understandable for complete newcomers to the show.

Rising is undoubtedly the best episode of the series!

Rich
September 9th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Just rewatched this myself. Excellent episode, just excellent.

I like how Hewlett is still finding his feet with McKay in it. Yes McKay is condescending, rude and blunt, but he's also very helpful and serious throughout.

Artifysial
September 10th, 2008, 12:11 PM
I am re-watching SGA now and love rising - great Wraith storyline - epic stuff and love the Wraiths - nothing is as terrifying as this throughout SG I think.

Anda
September 20th, 2008, 09:32 AM
In this episode I liked very much when General Jack O'neall was in a helicopter piloted by Sheppard,they taked about sometink and then a drone ataks them.

Orion25
October 12th, 2008, 04:39 AM
I was so excited watching the pilot despite being on catch-up mode on SG-1. Anyway, the control chair gave me goosebumps and I had to pick up my jaw from the floor when the major so easily visualized the solar system while he operated it. I won't forget Rodney's expression. lolz. The drone VFX was very kewl.

The Wraiths were scary and I nearly balked when the female caretaker said, "all living things must eat." I had hope for more veiled terror coming from this group though just to complete their insidiousness.

The Athosian guy who was dessicated into husk, was he indeed a 'spy'? Or he was just unlucky to be singled out by the Wraith as well? It seemed that Sumner and the rest of the soldiers had a feeling, there was a spy in their midst.

Sheppard firing the kill shot was intense however brief because he was stunned afterward by another Wraith. Good thing, Ford backed Sheppard.

I liked the various snaps shots into the families/ significant others of each expedition team members. It was a coming together of various individuals from different fields of expertise and the impact a very long, top secret journey it would bring to these people.

I hope we'll see more of Jinto.

Lythisrose
October 15th, 2008, 09:00 AM
I was so excited watching the pilot despite being on catch-up mode on SG-1. Anyway, the control chair gave me goosebumps and I had to pick up my jaw from the floor when the major so easily visualized the solar system while he operated it. I won't forget Rodney's expression. lolz. The drone VFX was very kewl.

The Wraiths were scary and I nearly balked when the female caretaker said, "all living things must eat." I had hope for more veiled terror coming from this group though just to complete their insidiousness.

The Athosian guy who was dessicated into husk, was he indeed a 'spy'? Or he was just unlucky to be singled out by the Wraith as well? It seemed that Sumner and the rest of the soldiers had a feeling, there was a spy in their midst.

Sheppard firing the kill shot was intense however brief because he was stunned afterward by another Wraith. Good thing, Ford backed Sheppard.

I liked the various snaps shots into the families/ significant others of each expedition team members. It was a coming together of various individuals from different fields of expertise and the impact a very long, top secret journey it would bring to these people.

I hope we'll see more of Jinto.


Ahh, such promise...........

GateTrek2004
February 17th, 2009, 03:12 AM
From time to time i re-watch SG-1 and Atlantis from the Beginning and I'm doing that with Atlantis Now. Upon watching Rising Part 1, the part where Carson Sat in the chair and the Drone almost Killed Sheppard and O'Neill (Which of course would not ever happen) why didn't he just get out of the chair? If its controlled thru thought while sitting down, wouldn't getting up turn the chair off?

Hermiiod
February 17th, 2009, 05:23 AM
Yay! i'm re-watching Atlantis too. :D
Excellent point, I for one never thought of that. Maybe because there was a direct connection with your brain and the chair it is damaging to the neural parts of your brain if you got out of it while it was performing a task, or in use.

Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper
February 18th, 2009, 01:32 PM
Upon watching Rising Part 1, the part where Carson Sat in the chair and the Drone almost Killed Sheppard and O'Neill (Which of course would not ever happen) why didn't he just get out of the chair? If its controlled thru thought while sitting down, wouldn't getting up turn the chair off?

Perhaps the simplest explanation is that maybe he could have gotten out of the chair, but that alone wouldn't have deactivated the drone. He needed to stay in the chair and concentrate in order to deactivate it.

:)

gateship15
February 21st, 2009, 09:50 PM
i like this episode i like that the drone tried to knock down the helicopter with jack and Shepperd in it. i also liked that Carson in this episode u get to see him come out of his shell more as the series goes on.

Nero_200
February 23rd, 2009, 05:19 PM
i bealive the reason was that without anyone controlling the drone while activated it selects a random target and attacks and at the time the helicopter was the closest.

gateship15
February 23rd, 2009, 11:25 PM
true that could be what happened because he deferentially had no control of the drone

Butlersgate
February 25th, 2009, 01:51 PM
plus it wouldn't of been as ~*thrilling*~

gateship15
March 6th, 2009, 04:10 PM
thats true is deferentially got my attention and made me want to watch

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
April 4th, 2009, 11:20 AM
I remember when i saw this episode i was like totally blown away by how they did it. It Made me like Atlantis More than SG-1.

escyos
May 15th, 2009, 03:03 AM
i remember seeing the tv commercial for the first ep. it had the city underwater and mckay saying " so the stories are true, a great city thast sank during a war" and i was like OMFG! STARGATE ATLANTIS HELL YEAH

drewandian
July 7th, 2009, 04:16 AM
I'm a little slow on this one, but FINALLY got my hands on the DVD of the first season and starting watching last night (yay for my local library having seasons 1-4!). I'm not usually a fan of spin off type shows, they're just a hard sell for me. But, Atlantis is definitely growing on me...I like the dynamics of the characters (McKay is GREAT! lol) And the Ancients are intriguing....I'm anxious to watch more!

Madwelshboy
August 2nd, 2009, 01:06 AM
I re-watched Rising the other day, and my enjoyment level of it has really dropped. Do i know why, well not really i guess there could be many a factors that play into it; other shows that i've watched recently or things that have been said recently or maybe the amount of times i've seen it (which i dont think is that much). Its gone from something i use to really enjoy to something very generic. I hope this feeling changes as i continue to re-watch season 1.

Xprojectd24
August 27th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I love SGA. My one question about this episode is how does the whole power drain thing work. Rodney says that the shield would have held up for hundreds of years if they had never come, but because they came and turned the lights on, (and I say that in the all inclusive sense) all the power was going fast. but later in the episode, they get all the lights running with their naquita generators (or however you spell that.) my question is, how can they run the lights, but not the shield, which obviously takes less power?

escyos
August 28th, 2009, 12:25 AM
it wasnt just the lights

when the sensors sensed them in the city, it turned on the lights, air circulation, air purification, computers, sensors, door controls, desalination tanks, transporters etc. if the city was just using the shield and then all these turned on at once, it wouldnt go to well

Xprojectd24
August 28th, 2009, 04:40 AM
it wasnt just the lights

when the sensors sensed them in the city, it turned on the lights, air circulation, air purification, computers, sensors, door controls, desalination tanks, transporters etc. if the city was just using the shield and then all these turned on at once, it wouldnt go to well

Still, they can run all of these, but they can't run the shield at minimum power, by turning things off?

escyos
August 29th, 2009, 07:55 AM
Still, they can run all of these, but they can't run the shield at minimum power, by turning things off?

do you realise how much force is exerted on the shield at that depth? quite a lot and there was very little power left anyway

and they didnt know how to turn things off so they couldnt

Xprojectd24
August 31st, 2009, 11:33 AM
do you realise how much force is exerted on the shield at that depth? quite a lot and there was very little power left anyway

and they didnt know how to turn things off so they couldnt

you are missing my point. rodney said that the shield would have held for another couple hundred years.

WraithQueenH
September 1st, 2009, 09:12 PM
you are missing my point. rodney said that the shield would have held for another couple hundred years.

Without people on Atlantis, I'm guessing power requirements would have only been to re-circulate air and the shield and (we latter find out) Weir's pod and power to swatch out ZMPs every appox. 2,500 years. With a group of 60 people or some coming to Atlantis a lot more systems must come back online: lights, air filters, temperature control, weapon systems, shield control, etc had to come back online and be use-able. That draws power and caused the ZPM to fail as all systems are drawing tons of power at the same time to boot up as people walk into sections.

We don't know what we are doing and that causes problems/destruction. Sound familiar? :psycho:

Xprojectd24
September 5th, 2009, 11:06 AM
With a group of 60 people or some coming to Atlantis a lot more systems must come back online: lights, air filters, temperature control, weapon systems, shield control, etc had to come back online and be use-able.

yet the naquatas were able to handle the entire load except for the shield until they were able to get another zpm.

Sp!der
September 18th, 2009, 02:19 AM
will introduce SGA to a friend tonight, and start of course with the pilot! will tell u how he react. he is a random sg1 fan, not as hardcore, as i am ;)

Aer'ki
September 23rd, 2009, 03:37 PM
yet the naquatas were able to handle the entire load except for the shield until they were able to get another zpm.

You make a very good point. I'll throw out a few things though.

1. Just from memory I think he said 'years more' not hundreds of years.
2. After the city rises, McKay says they needn't worry about air because the atmosphere was breathable. So maybe they didn't have the necessary power with the naquada generators to handle full life support.
3. There are probably a number of support systems that were activated when they arrived that they didn't have active after the ZPMs blanked.
4. McKay didn't know how to power down anything, they were brand new there.

rushy
November 19th, 2009, 02:55 AM
I feel that the Wraith are an another galaxy vampires.

Mongoletsi
November 19th, 2009, 03:05 AM
I feel that the Wraith are an another galaxy vampires.

You're surely the first person to make that connection.

Tanie
November 28th, 2009, 04:05 PM
Just re-watching SGA from the beginning, and the thing that strikes me most is that the series is 'filmed' in HD. How crisp the images are and the wonderful special visual effects. I can't say enough about them - and of course they just get better and better.

As for the Sheppard/Weir 'ship... I just can't see it any more - and belive me, I was one of the biggest Shweir shippers out there.

gateship15
December 3rd, 2009, 12:11 AM
i just love this episode its the best start to this series

ktebid
February 5th, 2010, 12:38 AM
Just rewatched this today. I loved Sheppard's expressions during this episode.

GATEGOD
February 25th, 2010, 01:29 AM
*plops it in my dvd player*

mrscopterdoc
March 28th, 2010, 07:14 PM
This makes a lot more sense when viewed after SG1 season 8 New Order. :P

Tatooinegateghost
April 20th, 2010, 07:53 PM
"That was a waste of a perfectly good explanation."

That line has me on the floor everytime, I watch Rising.

Trig
May 27th, 2010, 02:17 AM
On the SGA rewatch now I've done SG1 and BSG...

Not a bad start to this, some classic jack/daniel interaction...

magictrick
May 27th, 2010, 12:24 PM
On the SGA rewatch now I've done SG1 and BSG...

Not a bad start to this, some classic jack/daniel interaction...

Out of the 3 series so far, this is my favourite series opener, along with part 2 of course.

Trig
June 1st, 2010, 03:58 AM
Yeah true, not quite sure what happens to Weir though, by ep5 she looks like shes aged about 10 years lol

magictrick
June 1st, 2010, 08:08 AM
Yeah true, not quite sure what happens to Weir though, by ep5 she looks like shes aged about 10 years lol

Probably comes with the stress involved in traveling to a new galaxy and being attacked by a powerful alien race who want to suck the life out of you. That's one tough day at the office.

Elorendil
June 25th, 2010, 01:45 PM
I'm excited to start watching SGA! Just finished the first two episodes, and so far I am enjoying the series. Let's hope that continues! :D

Martina Magnus
July 13th, 2010, 11:12 PM
I was so excited about SGA ... but SG-1 is still num 1 for me :D
now I'm rewatching SGA .... and like it more then at first time ... :D
and this first ep was so cool ... see Daniel and Jack ... :D :lol:

Playtime20
August 6th, 2010, 10:48 PM
my favorite part was Sheppard and Sumner talk about who is in charge

Saquist
August 6th, 2010, 11:08 PM
Rise had the feeling of a major motion picture.

spinny magee
August 20th, 2010, 04:38 AM
6 years later this is still my favourite SGA episode..

spinny magee
August 20th, 2010, 04:38 AM
Rise had the feeling of a major motion picture.

This times eleventy.

Pharaoh Atem
August 20th, 2010, 04:31 PM
re watched this the other day on my wii via netflix it look so much better then on dvd. i can finally understand what people mean about the production quality

maneth
November 9th, 2010, 09:27 AM
Cool start to what can be a great show!

Eestlanna
November 23rd, 2010, 09:02 AM
When Sumners team first went to Teyla's village, farther there was this shining city of the anchestors . It looked ancient-made and Sumner wanted to go there, but Teyla said, that the wraith would come if they did. I wonder, did anyone actually went there or did we saw the city at all? I just can't remember.

SnowWhite
December 13th, 2010, 12:46 PM
besides all the great stuff uin this awsome ep,i have a question..
I believe it was this ep in which they talked about the way how to pronounce a ZPM..
The strange thing is, I know a few people from the USA/who have stayed there longer and they told me they'd also say Zed-Pi-eM.. like Rodney, who's suppused to be Canadian.. now nobody knew who says "Zee-Pi-eM".. does somebody here know where this term ist used usually?

PantheraLeo
January 18th, 2011, 04:28 AM
This times eleventy.

That times a billion!

ChulaksPrincess
February 9th, 2011, 10:35 AM
Both parts of this episode are awesome. I just love Teyla. She's so sweet. However, I think waking up a race of beings that devour humans for their own survival is a terrible way to start out.
Shame on you, Major Shepherd.

Lol!

mrscopterdoc
May 10th, 2011, 05:04 PM
doing a SGA rewatch and this show never ceases to amaze me. What a great beginning to a wonderful show!

Skie
May 11th, 2011, 03:41 AM
doing a SGA rewatch and this show never ceases to amaze me. What a great beginning to a wonderful show!

Yeah, if only they could have kept the level of the show. But its downfall began right after the amazing Season 1.

mrscopterdoc
June 4th, 2011, 05:59 PM
I disagree, I think there are episodes that are great even in season five. But as a whole, no season was as good as season one.

Skie
June 7th, 2011, 11:14 AM
I disagree, I think there are episodes that are great even in season five. But as a whole, no season was as good as season one.

Oh, I agree with great episodes in every season, with downfall I meant the whole season. But I disagree with the fifth season, no episode there was really great not even THE SHRINE and FC.

Lythisrose
June 7th, 2011, 11:43 AM
Oh, I agree with great episodes in every season, with downfall I meant the whole season. But I disagree with the fifth season, no episode there was really great not even THE SHRINE and FC.

While I had serious issues with Season 5, the top 2 of my favorite SGA eps are in that season, Vegas and The Shrine. Other eps I though were good were Search and Rescue, Daedalus Variations, Remnants and The Prodigal. I think there were a few others, can't quite recall at the moment.

mrscopterdoc
June 7th, 2011, 01:47 PM
While I had serious issues with Season 5, the top 2 of my favorite SGA eps are in that season, Vegas and The Shrine. Other eps I though were good were Search and Rescue, Daedalus Variations, Remnants and The Prodigal. I think there were a few others, can't quite recall at the moment.

same here, I agree.

Skie
June 11th, 2011, 05:30 AM
While I had serious issues with Season 5, the top 2 of my favorite SGA eps are in that season, Vegas and The Shrine. Other eps I though were good were Search and Rescue, Daedalus Variations, Remnants and The Prodigal. I think there were a few others, can't quite recall at the moment.

In THE SHRINE I very liked the team moments and DH's wonderful acting. But it's kind of annoying that again McKay gets all the screen-time. What also bothered me was that issue with the medical kit, or better no real kit at all in the jumper and how they can fool the Wraith. Really they become dumper and dumper every episode.

I hated THE PRODIGAL because it was the conclusion to this ridiculous baby arc. Oh well, at least we got over it with this episode.

WraithCommander
June 11th, 2011, 06:10 AM
Daniel: (looks at everyone walking through the gate) Jack...(gets cut off)
Jack: (looks at Daniel) Daniel...NO

lol. Poor Daniel...getting all left behind after finding out the address.

It would suck if we had been Daniel, all the hard work and then he didn't even get to go for years after it had been operational!

garhkal
June 11th, 2011, 11:54 AM
I loved all that banter between jack and daniel.

maquis
July 1st, 2011, 10:04 PM
Ok i just wanna throw something out there for anyone re-watching or watching this episode for the first time . In the opening scene Jack and Sheppard are flying over the glaciers in a helicopter . First of all its a civilian chopper and second it has a Canadian registration number C-FMCL. Why would two American military officers be flying a Canadian civilian chopper in Antarctica .

WraithCommander
July 2nd, 2011, 03:46 AM
Ok i just wanna throw something out there for anyone re-watching or watching this episode for the first time . In the opening scene Jack and Sheppard are flying over the glaciers in a helicopter . First of all its a civilian chopper and second it has a Canadian registration number C-FMCL. Why would two American military officers be flying a Canadian civilian chopper in Antarctica .

Filmed in Canada? Canadian produced show? Take your pick :P

garhkal
July 6th, 2011, 04:41 PM
Maybe it was all that was available at the base they left from.. since it was during the stand up of the IOA it would be reasonable to assume host countries have helos there.

Anubis1
July 10th, 2011, 05:19 AM
after seeing teyla and major sheppard.
carson: why doesnt anything like that happen to me?
mckay: you just need to get out more.
carson: we're in another galaxy, how far out can you get?

DutchCarterLover
July 10th, 2011, 08:15 AM
Robert Patrick was brillinat in that episode, I love that guy since I first seen Terminator 2.

garhkal
July 16th, 2011, 11:28 AM
I like him more as a baddie than goodie.

zainea13
January 11th, 2012, 04:25 PM
I remember when I first watched this series, I didn't like hardly any of the cast except for Mckay, I thought the characters were written poorly and acted poorly. But this time around I'm watching it in tandem with season 8 and I actually like all the character and am kinda wondering why I thought it was all so terrible before!? But, definitely the second time around everything is better.

Darkdog
January 27th, 2012, 04:48 PM
Part 1
I never get tired of watching the first episode of this great series-my dvd disc of this pilot really grabs me and is becoming worn out.

Weir
She is headstrong beautiful and a woman of integrity(I loved how she stood up to Jack about getting Sheppard onto the expidention) and the way she reads the speech to simon is played with a tad bit of sadness/great excitment but also a fear of stepping into the gate and despite her limited time as Stargate Command leader it was great to see that-Torri did a fab job
Sheppard
He came accross as a good pilot-the way he and jack bonded in the flight to the antarctic base was a great way that they were of similar character-a bit like a father(Jack) and son(John) with jack managing to get john onto the team. He was a brooding strong man but had a deep heart.
TBC

hlndncr
June 1st, 2012, 04:26 PM
I have no idea where Part 1 ends. Wasn't it always shown together as one long episode? That's how it is on my DVD.

If I were to guess where the break between part one and two would be I'd say right after the city rises.

Now that is a beatifully done piece of work watching Atlantis rise from the ocean! Kudos to the designers and VFX people!

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
June 1st, 2012, 05:04 PM
I have to get use to going to a different section now.

This was a better beginning than the episode that began SG-1.

"Several Million years," I got confused, I forgot when Destiny was launched. I thought they said millions of years. Well we got SGU coming up in 6 months.

The Music was awesome (I bought the soundtrack years ago).

Tomorrow, a (kind of) SG-1 rehash (already).

mathpiglet
June 1st, 2012, 05:47 PM
A good strong start to the series. I like the power struggle between the military and non-military forces. It's a pity Sumner had to die so quickly, but necessary in the scheme of things.

Puddlejumpers are brilliant!

Krisz
June 1st, 2012, 07:15 PM
So here I am in the part of the forum I've ventured rarely, I never really got into SGA, but I'm here with an open mind to revise my opinions, perhaps gain more of an appreciation of this series and see what makes people love it so much! :)

I ended up watching the whole of 'Rising' as my DVD has it as one long episode.

I have no idea where part two is supposed to start either, so I'll go with the city rising as the end of the first part too!

I recall watching this when it first aired and being really excited about the prospect of finding Atlantis, especially after seeing the wonderful SG-1 season 7 finale 'Lost City'. It was great to see them all set up in the Ancient oupost and studying it avidly.

I liked how Jack actually has a memory of the place with the uncomfortable look he gives the stasis unit!

The city rising from the ocean is I have to say one of the great moments in Stargate for me, wonderfully done effect!

The Atlantis gate is a great work of art, framing a lovely stained glass window behind it. I love the way it works with the lit up glyphs. The imposing set of stairs with the Ancient writing on the risers leading up to more beautiful stained glass windows is a great bit of set design. When I actually saw it for myself on a set visit I was blown away by the quality of the work of the set. It looked as real and solid in RL as it did on screen!

Of all the characters that turned up in the first half I was quite taken by Sheppard's presence from the start with this re-watch. First time round I didn't really notice any of the new characters, didn't really care for them, but Sheppard here was very engaging and I never appreciated that about him really.

McKay seemed to be less of a jerk than he was in SG-1. I suppose it was because he was overwhelmed by what he was experiencing, so didn't have time to be smug and condescending!

jelgate
June 1st, 2012, 07:19 PM
When the Wraith attack Athos is when Part I ends

hedwig
June 1st, 2012, 07:31 PM
McKay seemed to be less of a jerk than he was in SG-1. I suppose it was because he was overwhelmed by what he was experiencing, so didn't have time to be smug and condescending!

Not to worry. The smug, condescending McKay will be back soon. :)

hlndncr
June 2nd, 2012, 12:14 PM
When the Wraith attack Athos is when Part I ends

Hmmm. OK.

I think the city rising is a better break naratively speaking. It's almost like the episode switches to a whole new story. The first part is all about saving the city and rising from the ocean (a new dawn) and then the second half is all about the wraith rising from their long slumber (the black cloud).

But I guess it doesn't really matter because the two are woven together seemlessly on the DVD so I doubt I would ever watch it as two separate episodes.

jelgate
June 2nd, 2012, 12:34 PM
That may be but that is where the episode was broken up for syndication and reruns

Matt G
June 2nd, 2012, 02:53 PM
October 2004: Well...having become a SG1 fan...into fandom, doing conventions the works...word was that they were going to start a spinoff set in another galaxy...the idea initially sounded cool...other than the idea of Rodney McKay as one of the main characters. Still...it was worth checking...even though SG1 was still running. At the time I was at Uni though based at home in Teddington.

1. Looking back, Sheppard's reluctance was a bit nuts...

2. Didn't really connect Sheppard with Kirk first time round...

3. I'm with Crazedwraith on the hat thing.

4. Possibly the first time I saw the opening scene...for some reason I missed it first time round.

Solid enough opener.

Lieutenant Sparrow
June 4th, 2012, 02:06 AM
Such a good start to a series. I always forget it starts off with the Ancients.

Jack's appearance here is a lot better than his Continuum appearance.

Beckett has me laughing already. His sooky ways are funny instead of annoying.

Shep turning around and looking at the Atlantis gate was a good idea. Giving us our first glance. It's a great looking gate.

Wraith darts are still awesome.

The city rising out of the water still looks amazing.

Jae'a
June 5th, 2012, 10:04 AM
I have to get use to going to a different section now.

Me too, never been in the Atlantis sections before. :P (Well, not properly anyway, I may have had a quick peek at a few things. And a browse through the Ronon thunk thread in Chars/'ships...)

My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/57126.html)

Wow, pretty cool. This is my first time watching Atlantis. I've seen up to 'Thirty-eight Minutes' and enjoying it so far. :)

garhkal
June 5th, 2012, 12:42 PM
The city rising out of the water still looks amazing.

Compared to the rising it had later when they were leaving the planet, the first time we saw it rise was breath taking.

jelgate
June 9th, 2012, 07:29 PM
I like the joy of exploration followed by certain doom that comes with part I of the pilot. The first half on Earth does not only do a good job of introducing the characters but at the same time sets the tone of the show. Their is a sense of joy from Dr. Weir's main group as they are on Earth to see what Atlantis and the Pegasus Galaxy holds. Even Col Summer seems anxious to see what Atlantis holds. I aslo like how this first half gives foundation of who some of these characters are. The loner type characterization of Shepeard comes to mind. And then thier is the wonder of Atlantis. I kind of miss this in later seasons. Here we don't have a clue really to run the Ancient technology. That mystery and awe is something that was missed in later seasons. One thing that always nitpicks me is the going to Athos and writers show us an abandoned city and these ancient ruins showcasing the what the Wraith do and then the Wraith attack. What was the point of all that if they are just going to shift tones to defending against the Wraith?

Mrja84
June 11th, 2012, 08:54 AM
I like the joy of exploration followed by certain doom that comes with part I of the pilot. The first half on Earth does not only do a good job of introducing the characters but at the same time sets the tone of the show. Their is a sense of joy from Dr. Weir's main group as they are on Earth to see what Atlantis and the Pegasus Galaxy holds. Even Col Summer seems anxious to see what Atlantis holds. I aslo like how this first half gives foundation of who some of these characters are. The loner type characterization of Shepeard comes to mind. And then thier is the wonder of Atlantis. I kind of miss this in later seasons. Here we don't have a clue really to run the Ancient technology. That mystery and awe is something that was missed in later seasons. One thing that always nitpicks me is the going to Athos and writers show us an abandoned city and these ancient ruins showcasing the what the Wraith do and then the Wraith attack. What was the point of all that if they are just going to shift tones to defending against the Wraith?

I agree, I just wished we saw more of the Athosian's history. There were lots of comparisons to the Jaffa in terms of us having a representative on the Atlantis team. Yet, aside from history notes. The Athosians do not get any progression as a society or actually seeing what levels of technology they had.

Lythisrose
June 12th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Joe Mallozzi's notes for this episode (he's doing a "trip down memory lane")
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/june-7-2012-day-of-stargate-past-atlantis-rising-i-and-ii/


In the two part series premiere, Brad Wright and Robert Cooper deliver an opener that captures the spirit of the original series, SG-1, while simultaneously breaking new ground. In those two hours, a new world and new characters are established, setting the foundation of a show that would run five glorious years before it’s far-too-soon conclusion.



RISING I (101)

Do you remember the first time you met your significant other? What they were wearing? The conversation you had? The thoughts running through your head at the time? Hardly? That’s okay. People rarely do. However, I’m willing to bet that fans of Stargate: Atlantis remember that first hour: the introduction of the Atlantis expedition, the wondrous step through the gate to the city of the Ancients, that first meeting with the Athosians and the subsequent encounter with the wraith. Yeah, I figured.

Actors Richard Dean Anderson and Michael Shanks guest star, helping to pass the torch – although it’d be two terrific years before they’d actually let go of it. If there was any candidate better suited than Daniel Jackson to join Dr. Weir’s hand-picked team through the gate, I can’t think of one but, of course, we Jack needed him on SG-1. Or, depending what fandom camp you’re in, he simply couldn’t bear the thought of Daniel being journeying so far away.

The part of Lieutenant Ford was played by former VJ Rainbow Sun Francks. He won the role on the strength of a great audition, preceded by an equally great audition with a funny hat. Here’s some advice for all you aspiring actors. When it comes time to audition, know your lines, keep your hand movements to a minimum, and don’t wear a silly hat because, no matter how good you are, when other people screen your audition, all they’ll notice will be that damn hat. Fortunately for Rainbow, we were the first ones to see the audition, recognized the talent – and also the probability that, somewhere down the lines, somebody would dismiss him on account of his headgear – and had him re-read WITHOUT the hat. He did – and got the part.

One of my favorite moments in Rising I comes when the Atlantis expedition steps through the gate into the City of the Ancients which has stood abandoned for millions of years – yet has an albeit dead potted plant sitting at the foot of the steps leading to the gate room.

The Atlantis gate was, theoretically anyway, an improvement on the Earth gate. Like I said, theoretically. While the force shield certainly trumped the Cheyenne Mountain iris, the look of the new gate always struck me as a little glitzy Vegas in comparison to the cooler, staid gate at Stargate Command. I mean, just compare them…


The SG-1 gate


And the Atlantis gate.

See what I mean? It’s a little…oh, that’s not right. Hang on a sec.


Ah. Better.

The Atlantis gate also had the disadvantage of not actually being a working gate. Before you conspiracy theorists race off to your respective forums to reprint my words as confirmation that the Stargate program does, in fact, exist (and, for the record, I neither confirm or deny its existence), by “operational”, I mean the ability to actually spin. The gate at the SGC actually spun. The Atlantis gate’s spin was all CG.

When the team first meets the Athosians, Teyla is introduced as “daughter of Turghan”. But, later in the series, she names her first born Torren after her father. So, what’s the deal? Well, the fact that Teyla is leader of her people could suggest that the Athosians are a matriarchal society and that Turghan is, in fact, her mother’s name. A lovely name for a young woman.

Also, gate travel implants travelers with translator nanites. That’s why most everyone seems to speak English.

Eagle-eyed viewers will note that Elizabeth Weir’s boyfriend, Simon (Gavin Sanford), bears a striking resemblance to the late, to the late Tollan Narim, last seen getting blown up in SG-1?s fifth season episode Between Two Fires. Teyla’s fellow Athosian, Halling (Christopher Heyerdahl), looks a lot like Pallan, that guy who lost his wife and got his mind wiped in SG-1?s seventh season episode Revisions, but looks nothing like the wraith, Todd, who would go on to play such a key role later in the series.
(he included a couple of photos, which don't show up here)

garhkal
June 12th, 2012, 10:39 PM
I agree, I just wished we saw more of the Athosian's history. There were lots of comparisons to the Jaffa in terms of us having a representative on the Atlantis team. Yet, aside from history notes. The Athosians do not get any progression as a society or actually seeing what levels of technology they had.

And imo it was useless of them showing that 'glimps of an ancient city' and then do nothing with it.

Matt G
June 13th, 2012, 02:39 AM
Best I can tell it was a MacGuffin used to keep our guys interested long enough for the Wraith to show up.

Mrja84
June 13th, 2012, 06:44 AM
Best I can tell it was a MacGuffin used to keep our guys interested long enough for the Wraith to show up.

Or they had ideas, but later chose to pursue others. It happens, something is introduced (like a special drive in the finale) with the intent to use it later, but that doesn't happen for budget, time, or other constraints.

They introduce a lot in the first two hours, yet they do not do much with some of it. Like Ford, the Athosians, Halling and is son, Teyla as a leader of her people, etc. It sucks, but it happens a lot in television.


Teyla is introduced as “daughter of Turghan”. But, later in the series, she names her first born Torren after her father. So, what’s the deal?

I always took it as her child was named after Teyla's child's father, not Teyla's father. Hmmm.

EDIT: You can add Teyla was hinted at "hooking up" with someone at Atlantis, but that fell through didn't it? Because Rachel Luttrell had gotten pregnant and they didn't want her to someone have gotten his baby and they be "forced" into a relationship.

Frankly, I've never bought any of the relationships even the friendships. They never felt earned.

hedwig
June 13th, 2012, 08:01 AM
Teyla is introduced as “daughter of Turghan”. But, later in the series, she names her first born Torren after her father. So, what’s the deal?

Teyla's is introduced as the "daughter of 'Tagan', not 'Turghan'. Turghan was the warlord in SG1's Emancipation. And she didn't say Tagan was her father. It could as easily have been her mother.


I always took it as her child was named after Teyla's child's father, not Teyla's father. Hmmm.

The father of Teyla's child is Kanaan, so her child was not named after him.

ZRFTS
June 14th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Rising (Part 1)

In the olden days of 2004, there was a continuation of Stargate brewing up; one that would of taken place on Earth and involved the lost city of Atlantis... They had it all set up with the two-parter "Lost City" being the pilot for the series and the finale of SG-1 where certain things (and fandom threads) would be resolved and new things would be introduced; but somewhere down the line they had different plans, so they made "Lost City" into your average SG-1 season finale and decided to do Atlantis in a different galaxy so that they could do both shows while not having them easily interfere with each other. There must of been some considerable hype and I remember there was some advertising being put out on the show (you must remember those cardboard cutouts seen in theaters right?) so there must of been pressure for it to succeed, but does it succeed?

Well; it did. Creating numbers unmatched by any SGA episode in the history of time; why it didn't do that is unknown but will become known as reviews continue.

This first part of the pilot episode is essentially a setup for the entire series; this means that the characters that you've come to know and love, our first glimpses of the location, how they got there, the awe and excitement is given focus here. Our first sights of Atlantis are as grand as they are beautiful with amazing detail and good presentation; the people who thought of Atlantis must of been very creative people as the Asian influences combined with Celtic design and greenish colors combine to make something that's both grandiose and sensible; though some elements may fall into the usual sci-fi trappings, what is shown is something you can actually imagine being possible in real life if there were such things as an advanced ancient civilization. The shots shown manage to capture the best parts of Atlantis and the moments used manage to make us feel a lot like the characters, amazed and in awe; they did a really nice job presenting Atlantis though I have to take fault with one scene in Atlantis, the one where they connect to it. I mean that's the shot you use? It's disappointing. It doesn't feel exciting or a reflection of all their hopes and dreams paying off, it just seems like business as usual though I can excuse it; still, disappointing.


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Shephard, in awe of everything...

The mystery/mythology that the series introduces is amazing; I mean what is Atlantis, what lies in this universe, who is this unknown threat we know nothing about? While many of us would like to imagine what'd happen if the series remained on Earth rather then in another universe, it wouldn't compare to the universe of which this show is based around and the potential behind it. The episode slowly reveals to us what this world possibly holds for our heroes in future episodes, being careful not to reveal anything major or drive the viewer away and though what we learn of the universe is small, it does reveal some of the history regarding the Ancients and recreates the initial feeling of what made SG1 special (and what it used to have), exploring unknown worlds. The first world the Atlantis team visits is representative of that with it's unknown customs and culture, though they may have some modern SG1-isms in there, this is truly them being confused, trying to understand something in a militaristic way similar to the first few episodes of the show and the culture that is shown; classic Stargate. From the clothing to the city to the details to even the little twists in there, everything shown is reminiscent of the good old days and as a plus, it introduces what would be SGA's enemy it in a way that's deadly, unknown and truly mysterious (though inscriptions shown do reveal some info.); you could say they're similar to the Gou'ald but there are differences between them and the unknown enemy that sets them apart and also play a part in the whole new universe thing. Regardless they look to be something that'll play a respectable role in the show.

The cinematography in this thing is really, really good; as if Ronald Emmerich himself walked onto the set himself and started calling the shots. The angles manage to capture the subject while also purveying the importance of that moment, the presentation manages to be clear and concise without hindering anything, the quick moving camera angles capture the action (very few action scenes exist in the pilot (including that helicopter scene) but when they're done well, they're done well. Still, with the pace this episode was going for, I can understand why there'd be a few of them.) well while also making it exciting and heart-pounding, seriously it feels like a cinematic movie at times (which may have been the intent.) The guy who shot this should get a pat in the back as he certainly knows what how to make every shot essential, it just proves that anybody can do cinematic quality stuff without the major budgets if they have the effort, willpower and determination and creativity; people think they have to have major budgets to do this but they often fail to realize that they can do this with what they have though it'd be nearly impossible to get the kinds of shots where they fly over a mountain. Without this kind of cinematography, I doubt the pilot would as be effective as it is.


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An example of true cinematogrophy.

As expected this episode gives us our first introductions to the characters who'd inhabit Atlantis, though it feels like they popped out of thin air (especially the ones in the arctic base) These include the ever so known Dr. Rodney McKay (played by David Hewett, who has a considerable cult following.), the Canadian pilot who just happens to be meant for something more Shephard, the also ever so known Dr. Elizabeth Weir (played by a different actor from the original.) the unknown but potential filled Aiden Ford and the generic Col. Marshall who I expect will be killed in a couple of episodes. All of these characters play their part well, delivering decent Stargate dialog that shows they can be both serious and fun and they show that they have a group mechanic going on, which is good since the success of the series relies on how much chemistry the people have and though it isn't there most of the time, it's there some of the time and besides, it has time to grow. There were some things I disliked about a few characters. Dr. Rodney is good when he's being helpful but when he's being arrogant and forceful, he's pretentious and unlikable; Mr. David Hewett needs to learn not to slip because I actually like the helpful Rodney, he's a decent character. Dr. Weir doesn't sound like she's giving it her all at certain points, seeming to deliver her stuff in a monotone way even if it is a happy moment and Shepard needs to learn that blending in is the best standing out he can do. (many shots unnecessarily show him as a model rather then an character.)

One thing that has to be noted is the diversity of people... (possibly in a nod to "Star Trek: Voyager") This may be nothing new but the fact that there are diverse people compared to the people we were introduced to in SG1 gives potential to the series at hand; different cultures, different methodologies, if they played their cards right, they could use the diverse cast to ultimately give the series a deeper meaning. The parts that take place on Earth are done well enough; (Starting at the arctic base rather then at Atlantis was a good idea as it allowed for a natural progression that is simply essential to the episode as it built up the excitement towards the reveal of Atlantis and established certain things techwise.) the action in the artic base is somewhat entertaining (it's dull at parts), it adds decently to the introduction and the plot, it enforces the believability of the situation, it works for and builds up the characters, there's a nice feeling of satisfaction to everything shown and it's nice to see Jack O'Neill even if it is a cameo appearance; he just has that something that makes him appealing, the way he says his words, the way he does his vocal inflictions, his brashness, his character, it just makes seeing him all the more exciting. The appearances with Daniel Jackson (who is his old self, it's nice to see him researching locations, looking at charts, etc.) are also a delight and the way he hooks up with Jack, well there's nothing more to say after that...


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Jack and Daniel BFF!!! Oh and Rodney and Wier.

So the first part of the Atlantis pilot seems to be more of a setup to the mystery and the mystery it introduces it's good; the mythology of the world seems interesting enough and the initial SG-1 feeling is revived. It hasn't forgotten about the characters or any of the other stuff and it introduces them well, with all playing their parts in an admirable way. I will say that there are a few faults, especially for Dr. Rodney which he will have to overcome if he wants to be a viable player in Stargate but overall, it's really, really good. There is little action and drama but who needs that when this is our first taste of Atlantis. Everything in this episode builds up to the reveal and everything after the reveal just adds more and more and more. The first part of the pilot is good but I'm hoping Part 2 will be even better.

8.5/10

Matt G
June 15th, 2012, 02:03 AM
The way I remember the hype from '03/04 was that they were going to finish SG1 then use the Lost City plot as a cinema movie to bridge from SG1 to Atlantis.

SGSuzi
July 29th, 2012, 08:04 PM
Have just watched the the first two parter of SGA, we watched it directly after New order 1 and 2 of SG1 and glad we did, although i think we are going to stick to watching a season of each at a time now rather than alternating the episodes.

Not really sure what my thoughts are, i enjoyed it but not as much as SG1, but i think it could just be the newness of it and not really knowing the characters, I'm pretty sure i felt the same when i first started watching SG1 too.

I loved the new sassy stargatges with the spinny blue lights, loved the gateships. I like the character of Mj Shepperd and of course we already know dr McKay but will be nice to see his character develop.

Unfortunatly my bluray boxset has not arrived with our shipping from the Uk yet so we only had a tv recording to watch, i think once we get it on bluray the graphics etc will make it pretty impressive.

It was nice to have Jack and Daniel in there, but I'm not convinced about Sam not being there, I would have thought that being the one who made the gate work in the first place she wouldn't have missed the whole 8 chevrons thing that was going on but hey, it's only a small thing.

On the whole I am sure that once i get into atlantis it will be great, not sure at the moment I can see it becoming my fave over SG1 though

garhkal
July 29th, 2012, 09:09 PM
It was nice to have Jack and Daniel in there, but I'm not convinced about Sam not being there, I would have thought that being the one who made the gate work in the first place she wouldn't have missed the whole 8 chevrons thing that was going on but hey, it's only a small thing.

Maybe she was too busy filming Sanctuary to be there..

SGSuzi
July 29th, 2012, 09:15 PM
Maybe she was too busy filming Sanctuary to be there..

well i meant from a storyline point of view really. I don't know much about sanctuary, did that start so far back i thought it was a fairly new thing

jelgate
July 29th, 2012, 09:16 PM
Tapping did not ever start Sanctuary until after she was done with SG1

garhkal
July 30th, 2012, 11:00 AM
I thought she did that along with s8/9/10??

Seaboe Muffinchucker
July 31st, 2012, 07:05 AM
I'd love to know how she could without making her hair all fall out. It's clear from her brief scenes in Universe that her hair was bleached back to blond for that. From what I've seen in Sanctuary, she wasn't wearing a wig.

Seaboe

Cluas
February 11th, 2013, 02:03 AM
It was a very good start on a new series. I felt like it was a movie, and not just a television series. Loved all the characters, except for Carson. He is really annoying, and I'm glad he only play's a small part.
Wow that city of the Ancients ROCK - A nice gate and jumpers, and all kinds of new tech
McKay is annoying too, but in a good way though

:sheppardanime21:

HesBe
July 11th, 2013, 02:13 PM
Not sure how many time I re-watched SGA now, first episode still one of my fav and never gets old.

zbir
September 25th, 2013, 10:21 AM
My favorite part was when Sheppard is following Teyla through that forrest and loses his balance and he almost fall into that ravine. It was clearly something you won't find in many movies: something real. And I started to search for those kind of moments in every episode.

myowndrownedworld
September 30th, 2013, 05:08 AM
I like the Pilot on a second viewing more than i did when i first watched it. Maybe because i have better understanding of the show's franchise as a whole.

Kenton-Atlantis
January 11th, 2014, 03:42 PM
what a great episode im re watchin season one tonight wooooo