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X-303
July 12th, 2004, 08:35 AM
hey, one question if the atlantis team is in another galaxy and use standard military weponds how do they don't run out of amunition
X-303

P.D.I apologise for my spelling

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 08:37 AM
Haven't thought about that. I guess they'll bring ALOT.

And all soldiers know how to make ammo themselves.

They should bring Staffs and Zats.

sarge
July 12th, 2004, 11:53 AM
And all soldiers know how to make ammo themselves.

We do??? :eek:

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 11:55 AM
We do??? :eek:

Ok then, not all, but many do :)

Janus
July 12th, 2004, 12:01 PM
And if you use the 'one-shot, one kill' policy, your ammo should last a while.

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 01:16 PM
But then you should get a medal. Killing a wraith in one shot is pretty good :)

Vesian
July 12th, 2004, 03:22 PM
The thought already crossed my mind, and they will probably do the same as SG1 usually does: Salvage enemy weapons. There is no way in hell that they can bring enough ammo to last them FOREVER, and i'm betting that they will have a very limited supply. They will probably find/jack/steal/confisgate some Wraith weapons and use them.

CelticPhantom
July 12th, 2004, 03:29 PM
Well if all else fails they can go with a different method...like chucking rocks at the Wraiths...or a blunt club like object.

Major Tyler
July 12th, 2004, 03:33 PM
We'll find out on Friday.

Chevron_nine
July 12th, 2004, 05:52 PM
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Well the asgard have "replicators", no not the bugs, those things they have in star trek to make things. This is how O'neill's weapon was synthesized. Perhaps the Ancients also had this kind of technology and the team can learn to synthesize their own.

Calicto
July 12th, 2004, 06:09 PM
1st of all, this is a civilian team. Atleast 90% of them WILL not know how to make ammo because they are civilians. I doubt even people like O'Neill know how to make Ammo.

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 11:12 PM
O'Neill will certainly know how to make ammo. He has been in the military for years and knows quite a lot of skills, I think if anyone would know it would be O'Neill.

VirtualCLD
July 13th, 2004, 08:12 AM
i don't know if you can make ammo from complete scratch. Obviously, soldier can salvage shell casings and melt down lead to form some bullets, cook up some sugar and saltpeter (or dung if no slatpeter can be found) to make gunpowder, then reload clips. However, I doubt they can make their own shell casing and their own clips from scratch. Maybe the shell casings but probably not the clips and those are bound to wear down after awhile. I'm sure TPTB will work it out somehow. (I just hope this doesn't turn into Startrek: Voyager too much).

Stargate Agent
July 13th, 2004, 08:17 AM
Maybe they will find energy weapons which would need no ammo? Problem solved eh??

If not they can resort to hand to hand combat or something.

Isn't Teyla part of some tribe??? Maybe they got some weapons.

Janus
July 13th, 2004, 08:22 AM
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Since the Atlantis team is going get back in touch with Earth in 'Home'.
They can probably use the occassion to bring more ammo.

SGTLopez
July 13th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Maybe they will find energy weapons which would need no ammo? Problem solved eh??

If not they can resort to hand to hand combat or something.

Isn't Teyla part of some tribe??? Maybe they got some weapons.

Hmmmm...Did anyone see the Atlantis team carrying ZATS with them? :confused:

Anubis
July 14th, 2004, 03:33 AM
It doesn't look like they have zats, just P-90's unless they find a special source that gives unlimited weapon firing power!

w1cket01
July 14th, 2004, 07:17 AM
Maybe they will find energy weapons which would need no ammo? Problem solved eh??

If not they can resort to hand to hand combat or something.

Isn't Teyla part of some tribe??? Maybe they got some weapons.


Yea I think sticks.

aAnubiSs
July 14th, 2004, 09:08 AM
They should bring Goa'uld weapons. It's not like someone is gonna see the Goa'uld weaposn and scream in fear, like on our galaxy.

sarge
July 14th, 2004, 09:27 AM
They should bring Goa'uld weapons. It's not like someone is gonna see the Goa'uld weaposn and scream in fear, like on our galaxy.
however; Goa'uld weapons are not that accuate and the team have not been using them all of thier lives as with the standard weapons.

aAnubiSs
July 14th, 2004, 11:19 AM
Better to have a working weapon that's not very accurate then a weapon with no ammo.

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The wraith doesn't have a problem being shot by bullets, maybe plasma is better.

Xzyl
July 15th, 2004, 11:00 PM
hey, one question if the atlantis team is in another galaxy and use standard military weponds how do they don't run out of amunition
X-303

P.D.I apologise for my spelling

The SGA team is probly counting on finding the Ancient's weapons since that is what they are looking for in the first place.

I am guessing that the Ancients would have had to of had some form of firearm to protect themselves when they were off world. They may of had some ships that were formidable but that would not do an Ancient any good if he or she was trapped in a cave with a dangerous animal.


Haven't thought about that. I guess they'll bring ALOT.

And all soldiers know how to make ammo themselves.

They should bring Staffs and Zats.

One of the few redeeming qualities of the of the P90's 5.7x33mm ammo is that is neither bulky nor heavy compared to other types of small arms ammo; each cartridge only weighs 6 grams and is only 40.5mm long. Imagine a crate the size of a large ice chest completely filled with 50 round boxes of 5.7x33mm ammo. If it helps you to better visualise think of the crate being long and wide enough to lay down 2 P90 magazines end to end, and lay 10 magazines across the width, and stacking it 8 layers high. That would be 8,000 rounds of ammo ready to go. It would be a tad heavy at 48kg (then again it same weight as all the stuff a US soldier would normaly have to carry) but 2 guys could carry it into the gate or just have Teal'c toss it into the gate. Of course; if they were smart just have the MALP carry it through. It looks like it cold carry about 4 of those crates brining the total to 32,000 rounds.

This does not include how much ammo each soldier is carrying. I dont remember how many P90 magazine pouches an SG team member carries. I think it is 4-6, going with the lower number that gives us 250 rounds including the mag in the P90. If each soldier also had a matching Five Seven pistol and a 4 magazine pouch for it, that would bring his total ammo load to 350 rounds.

How many soldiers are part of the SGA team? I am not sure, the team seems to consist of about 2 to 3 dozen people. Lets say a dozen soldiers to give us a number to work with. That bring the total ammo all the soldiers are carrying togather to 4,200 rounds. Add that to what is in the crates and we get a grand total of 36,200 rounds of ammo or about 3,000 rounds for each soldier. This would allow each soldier to completely reload all his P90 magazines 12 times or its just barely enough ammo to get Sam and Jack through a 5 min fire fight. :)

Why would a soldier know how to reload ammo, unless it was a hobby of his (there is one exception)? The US millitary does not use reloaded ammo. The US millitary does not even make its own ammo (with that one exception) it buys it. The exception is the USMC armorers who do make marines corp sniper ammunition, then again they also make the rifle its fired out of.

There are probly not enough zats and staff weapons to go around, most are probly sent to R&D so that they can be figured out.

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July 17th, 2004, 09:58 AM
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If you knowtist with the gene some of the people carrier, the lights come on, doors open, stairs light, and most of all, the Major can fly the Puddlejumpers. All he has to do is think about what he needs. Know I now what you are thinking, how can something apper into thin air when a repucator dose not know what amo is? Just like when the Major asks for a turkey sandwich, the repucator did not no what a turkey sandwich was or it can not repucate food. If you write a cookbook you need to have catagorys, so maybe there is a storage compartment that can do just that. When O'Niell was building that new weapon, Thor's ship had all the right ingredenant for it, he did say they did try and come up with something like that weapon, but it did not work. Jack knew what they where screwing up, he just fixed it.
So back to the amo, yes they can use the Warths weapons, but bullitts do work too, and the C-4 worked very will. :D

Lugal
July 17th, 2004, 11:31 AM
The thought already crossed my mind, and they will probably do the same as SG1 usually does: Salvage enemy weapons. There is no way in hell that they can bring enough ammo to last them FOREVER, and i'm betting that they will have a very limited supply. They will probably find/jack/steal/confisgate some Wraith weapons and use them.

That's one thing I noticed, after Sheppard killed the Wraith keeper with the Wraith weapon, he put it down and then left. I was wondering why he didn't take it with him, even if he couldn't use it they could try to figure it out back at Atlantis. Especially since they noticed bullets don't kill Wraith.

EYU86
July 17th, 2004, 11:35 AM
Bullets do kill Wraiths, it just takes a few-many of em.

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 11:35 AM
In the ZAT thread, we just discussed this. We don't know if it has a tracking device or not. It may also be gene based, meaning a Wraith would have to use it. It also could self destruct on an Ancient, or Ancient genebased person (Sheppard). Also speculation.

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 11:36 AM
Bullets do kill Wraiths, it just takes a few-many of em.

You could always get a nice headshot like Ford did. He is a true marks man.

EYU86
July 17th, 2004, 11:38 AM
Everytime I see a shot like Ford's, whether its on TV or in a game, automatically I hear "HEADSHOT" from Unreal Tournament.

DownFallAngel
July 17th, 2004, 11:40 AM
Same here, but from counter-strike(back when I used to play).

the adventurer
July 17th, 2004, 11:47 AM
Atlantis is a CITY, this suggestes there will be some form of Manufacturing center. This mean, Bullets for ALL!

Lugal
July 17th, 2004, 11:51 AM
In the ZAT thread, we just discussed this. We don't know if it has a tracking device or not. It may also be gene based, meaning a Wraith would have to use it. It also could self destruct on an Ancient, or Ancient genebased person (Sheppard). Also speculation.

Sheppard stabbed her with it (not using any power) could take it back and they could make it into some kind of anti-Wraith bayonet.

The tracking device is an interesting idea but I doubt they would need it since everyone seems to be too terrified of the Wraith to fight back, and they probably know where Atlantis is already, since they mentioned the shield held up against them and that's why they submerged the city.

Dogma00
July 17th, 2004, 11:53 AM
Everytime I see a shot like Ford's, whether its on TV or in a game, automatically I hear "HEADSHOT" from Unreal Tournament.


LOL :D On the real life side of the headshot topic, no brain stem function, no baddie. Can't regen from that, now can you..... hehe :cool:

And for thous of you are think about the scene where the hand kept moving. It was the last nervous system command to the arm before it was um, lost by its remaining parts. :p

the adventurer
July 17th, 2004, 12:00 PM
And for thous of you are think about the scene where the hand kept moving. It was the last nervous system command to the arm before it was um, lost by its remaining parts. :p

Ah, but that's just what our Puny Human Minds think.

Just you watch, that arm's going to regenerate into an entire Wraith and we'll have one running amok on the base before to long.

Chirp
July 21st, 2004, 01:32 PM
:D When I saw the scene, all I could think of is, whos got my arm, whos got my arm?

Larry
July 21st, 2004, 01:38 PM
Oooooooooor, they'll have weapons that never run out of ammo, old western movie style. I remember those six guns that fired dozens of rounds without needing to be re-loaded.